Episode description

Now that Matt Gaetz has withdrawn from consideration as attorney general, President-elect Donald J. Trump’s most controversial cabinet pick is his selection of Pete Hegseth as secretary of defense.

Dave Philipps, who reports on war and the military for The Times, discusses three major deployments that shaped how Mr. Hegseth views the military — and why, if confirmed, he’s so dead-set on disrupting its leadership.

Guest: Dave Philipps, who reports about war, the military and veterans for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

• His military experiences transformed Mr. Hegseth from a critic of war crimes into a defender of the accused.
• What to know about Mr. Hegseth, Trump’s pick for defense secretary.

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