Episode description

By working with Democrats to avert a government shutdown this past week, Speaker Mike Johnson seemed to put himself on the same path that doomed his predecessor. Or did he?

Catie Edmondson, who covers Congress for The Times, explains why things could be different this time.

Guest: Catie Edmondson, a reporter in the Washington bureau of The New York Times.

Background reading: 

• Congress prevented a shutdown, but the spending fight is far from over.
• Almost all Democrats and a majority of Republicans overcame the opposition of G.O.P. conservatives to approve the bill under special expedited procedures. But that approach, hatched by Mr. Johnson in his first weeks as speaker, is a gamble.

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