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Episode description
In the middle of a strategy retreat, Jonathan Crabb dropped a big statement and I pulled out my phone and hit record. This unplanned conversation about how anxiety is really productive, right up until you collapse, has a lot of insight and a bit of humor, all packed into a quick conversation.
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You can connect with Jonathan on Twitter at @JonathanBCrabb
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