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The New Yorker staff writer Clare Malone joins Tyler Foggatt to analyze how President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump are being skewered on social-media platforms like TikTok and Instagram. She discusses our shifting media habits, why the 2016 election is surfacing in new contexts online, and how both campaigns are relying on algorithms to gain momentum ahead of November.

This episode originally aired on January 31, 2024.

This week’s reading:

“The Meme-ification of American Politics,” by Clare Malone
“What the Doomsayers Get Wrong About Deepfakes,” by Daniel Immerwahr

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Could the 2024 Election Be Decided by Memes?

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