Episode description

In this episode of Product People Podcast, João Moita interviews Melissa Perri, author of "Escaping the build trap" and host of the Product Thinking podcast. They discuss a variety of topics related to product management, including diversity in the field, the challenges of escaping the build trap, and the importance of thinking about problems rather than solutions. They also delve into the topic of aligning incentives with company outcomes, the difference between strategy and plans, and the differences between product management in Europe and the US. Additionally, they cover the topic of product operations, including when to create a product ops function and how to standardize processes as a starting point. Finally, they talk about Melissa's next career steps and offer advice for those looking to move from a PM to a product leader role.

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Timestamps:

(1:10) Diversity in Product

(5:35) Escaping the build trap

(9:31) Thinking about problems instead of solutions

(12:50) Aligning incentives with company outcomes

(15:17) Difference between strategy and plans

(19:37) Differences between Europe and US

(23:59) What is Product Operations

(25:31) When to create the Product Ops function

(28:49) Standardising processes as a starting point

(30:47) Melissa’s next career steps

(32:48) Advice to move from PM to Product Leader