After a highly requested (micro) deep-dive into Normal People (we loved the show maybe even more than the book!), we chat with Jules Von Hep! Jules is a celebrity tanning expert and the founder of the (clean! vegan!) line Isle of Paradise. We chat with him about how quarantine is going in the UK and then move along to his career and how he founded Isle of Paradise. He walks us through his career path and how he got to where he is today (he’s tanned everyone from Kate Moss to Kendall Jenner!),how...
May 13, 2020•1 hr 18 min•Ep 119•Transcript available on Metacast In today’s episode, we polled you to come up with a big grab bag of questions. We cover a wide range of topics from college life to cooking (Becca’s carbonara!). We also talk about how we maintain our privacy (spoiler alert: we’re in charge!) and all sorts of other things. Will Becca ever get a dog? Has Grace always been a cat person? Does she walk Tyrion? How did we meet? We got a ton of podcast related questions so we also give a behind the scenes look at the process of creating Bad on Paper. ...
May 06, 2020•1 hr 18 min•Ep 118•Transcript available on Metacast Yesterday we talked about In Five Years by Rebecca Serle and today she is joining us to give a behind the scenes look at how she wrote the book! Rebecca is an author and television writer in NYC and LA, she has written 6 novels and co-developed the hit television adaptation of her YA series, Famous in Love. We talk about the differences between screenwriting and writing a novel (and why her heart stays with books!) - and the process of adapting a book into a TV show. We talk about the overarchin...
Apr 30, 2020•40 min•Ep 117•Transcript available on Metacast This month, we read In Five Years by Rebecca Serle. We both absolutely loved this book and read it in under 24 hours. Before diving into the book, we do our usual quarantine catch up. We are both healthy, staying busy, and Tyrion (Grace’s cat) seems to have developed a newfound love for Zoom calls. This book is about best friends, Dannie and Bella. Dannie is a little bit uptight and is one of those women who always has a plan and knows exactly what she wants. Meanwhile, Bella is a bit more fligh...
Apr 29, 2020•55 min•Ep 116•Transcript available on Metacast Is it just us, or is quarantine making home chefs of us all?! In this episode we share our favorite recipes, favorite food inspiration accounts to follow, and our personal pantry and grocery shopping staples. We have some strong opinions on condiments, our panic buys,and quarantine cooking fails. We also talk about our cooking bucket list, the best things we’ve made during isolation, and where we want to go the moment the ban is lifted. Favorite Food Instagram Accounts: @lizadams @definedish @al...
Apr 22, 2020•1 hr 18 min•Ep 115•Transcript available on Metacast Today, we poured ourselves a glass of wine and play a remote game of FMK (Fuck, Marry, Kill) with YOUR prompts! But first, we catch up on how we are holding up in quarantine. We are definitely a mix of adjusting and feeling trapped, but over all we are doing alright. This episode is a weird one and we are into it. We go through all the important categories… books, meals, celebs, TV characters. Becca kills breakfast (and short men?) and Grace makes a surprising choice when it comes to the Younger...
Apr 15, 2020•55 min•Ep 114•Transcript available on Metacast Stacey Abrams, needs no introduction but we’ll give her one anyway. She’s a New York times bestselling author, non profit CEO, and political leader.. and today she joins us to answer all our questions about voting rights: an incredibly important issue that we didn’t know NEARLY enough about before this interview. After losing her 2018 Georgia gubernatorial race, Abrams created Fair Fight to ensure that all Americans were able to vote and to have their votes counted. We talk to her about the diff...
Apr 13, 2020•29 min•Ep 113•Transcript available on Metacast In today’s episode, we chatted with Sallie Krawcheck (founder and CEO of Ellevest) about the relationship women have with investing. Sallie has been one of our dream guests for some time now and we both learned so much from our conversation. Sallie explains the difference between the wage gap and the wealth gap for women, and the different ways that women spend, save, and manage money. Sallie gives us advice about saving vs. investing, how to get lower interest rates, common mistakes, and how to...
Apr 08, 2020•1 hr 18 min•Ep 112•Transcript available on Metacast We couldn’t stop thinking (or talking) about this book and our friend Jess, so we asked friend of the pod, Katie Sturino to join us to discuss Jessica Simpson’s memoir, Open Book. Forget what you think you know about Jessica Simpson (seriously, none of us were superfans or even really fans before this book, but we sure as hell are now!). Her book dives deep into her childhood, music career, relationships, and struggles with addiction. Needless to say, we could not get enough! We discuss the juic...
Apr 06, 2020•27 min•Ep 111•Transcript available on Metacast First of all, it’s our 2 year podcasting anniversary! In today’s ep we’re sharing all our best quarantine distractions and recommendations. Between all the family FaceTimes, Zoom happy hours, Powerpoint parties, cooking, organizing, and checking in with family and friends it’s easy to forget to keep a routine and take care of yourself too! We want to help by giving some light hearted and fun ways to lose yourself (in a book, tv show, movie, podcast, etc), even if it’s only for a little while. We...
Apr 01, 2020•1 hr 19 min•Ep 110•Transcript available on Metacast Our March Book Club Pick is I’ll Give you the Sun by Jandy Nelson. Before we get into the book, we talk a little bit about Coronavirus and how we’re feeling. This book is the perfect quarantine read as it feels a bit like a cozy warm hug. The book is the story of Jude and Noah - twins who were once inseparable, but have now grown apart. Via alternating timelines, we learn the heartbreaking reasons that this has happened. Noah tells the story of their younger years, meanwhile Jude’s timeline take...
Mar 25, 2020•1 hr 10 min•Ep 109•Transcript available on Metacast Alisha Ramos, Founder and CEO of Girls Night In, and self proclaimed indoor kid/introvert, joins us to share her journey to create her company and the ways her business has changed as it grows. We talk about starting and scaling a business, work/life balance, and its challenges as a female founder. We dish on our self care pet peeves (we all have them!), our definitions of self care, and what is next for GNI. We also talk of our love of a good newsletter and Alisha’s idea of the perfect night in...
Mar 18, 2020•2 hr 34 min•Ep 108•Transcript available on Metacast Kelley Robinson, Executive Director of the Planned Parenthood Action Fund joins us to answer all of our questions about the state of reproductive rights. Kelley explains some common misconceptions around Planned Parenthood, and then helps us to understand the spike in abortion restrictions that happened in 2019. We also dig into the abortion case currently in front of the supreme court, and talk about other cases being heard by the Supreme Court this year. Then we talk about Title X and dive int...
Mar 16, 2020•35 min•Ep 107•Transcript available on Metacast In this episode we dive into our personal reading histories and talk about our reading lives. We share stories about how we became readers, our favorite childhood books - Sweet Valley High, Babysitters Club, R.L. Stein, etc. Although we have different reading routines, ways we organize books, and views on putting a book down (to DNF or not to DNF, that is the question!) - we can agree that vacation reading is the best reading. We share our favorite recent books, our process for vetting the books...
Mar 11, 2020•1 hr 18 min•Ep 106•Transcript available on Metacast In this episode we talk clean beauty with the founder of Follain, Tara Foley. Tara, a self-described “activist-at-heart” shares with us her journey from discovering clean beauty to opening Follain. We dive deep on what clean really means and the regulation around the terms natural and clean (spoiler: there is none). She also gives us her top ingredients to watch out for. Our favorite part of the episode, though, has to be Tara’s amazing product recs. We chat about everything from budget-friendly...
Mar 04, 2020•2 hr 38 min•Ep 105•Transcript available on Metacast Followers by Megan Angelo is a thought provoking take on influencer culture. The book alternates between the present day story of Orla and Floss living in modern day New York with their own reality TV show; and Marlow, 35 years from now living in a town called Constellation where influencers have become government employees and have their lives broadcasted 23/7. It’s sharp and witty (and a bit of a cautionary tale - when does sharing go TOO FAR?) This book is a great conversation starter and wil...
Feb 26, 2020•1 hr 20 min•Ep 104•Transcript available on Metacast Taylor Lorenz is a journalist at the New York Times covering Internet Culture. In our conversation, she maps out the jobs that led her to where she is today and how she developed her own beat. We also delve into everything going on on the internet: from influencers to trolls to TikTok. Whether you’re looking to get current (what is The Hype House?) or are an internet culture vulture with strong feelings on Caroline Calloway, we cover it all in our conversation. More Taylor Lorenz: twitter: @tayl...
Feb 19, 2020•2 hr 47 min•Ep 103•Transcript available on Metacast In this (highly requested) episode we are talking about being single in your thirties! We answer all of your questions about dating, and give the best advice we can from our own experiences. This episode is broken into four parts: why being single in your thirties is actually pretty great, how to stay positive, how to make new friends (and keep the old), and all things DATING (another hot topic). We share our weirdest dates, our favorite apps (and when to delete them), ways to meet people IRL, t...
Feb 12, 2020•2 hr 36 min•Ep 102•Transcript available on Metacast This is hands down one of our favorite interviews yet! Erica Cerulo and Claire Mazur, founders of Of a Kind (RIP!), join us to talk about founding and running a business with your friend. We dive into how they split their roles in the business, travel styles, and hiring a management coach (AKA a business therapist). We also chat about how they’re processing the closure of their company and what’s next. Then we turn to the subject of motherhood, and have an incredibly candid conversation about ho...
Feb 05, 2020•2 hr 43 min•Ep 101•Transcript available on Metacast This month we read Good Girls Lie by J.T. Ellison. This book combines some of our favorite things: rich unsupervised teens at a boarding school, secret societies… and murder. Ash is an outcast, relocating from England to attend boarding school at the prestigious Goode School in Virginia. Her parents have passed away, she has an abusive past with her father, and she definitely has a lot of secrets. When she gets tapped for the Ivy Bound secret society, things go haywire. Her roommate dies and now...
Jan 29, 2020•1 hr 11 min•Ep 100•Transcript available on Metacast We welcome back friend of the pod (and former Obama Deputy Chief of Staff), Alyssa Mastromonaco to answer our burning questions about this presidential election. Alyssa explains what happens to donations when a candidate drops out of the race, endorsements, and where you can go to find out more about the local politics that you can have a direct effect on. She also touches on Amy Klobuchar, Elizabeth Warren, Mike Bloomberg, and why we need to keep an eye on how the candidates spend their money (...
Jan 24, 2020•47 min•Ep 99•Transcript available on Metacast We’ve got that January motivation and are talking all about organization in this ep! We share about how we organize our lives (both physically in our homes, and our digital lives). We discuss how we handle filing papers, managing our closets, email boxes, and even reveal how often we clean! Becca breaks down her calendar system and Grace tells us about a paper planner that helps you organize your time (and looks pretty too). We also have plenty of recs on home goods that help you find a place to...
Jan 22, 2020•2 hr 38 min•Ep 98•Transcript available on Metacast We’re thrilled to have sister-in-law duo Veronica Swanson Beard + Veronica Miele Beard with us today! Besides being two of the most stylish women we know, they have built an incredible brand. Both women have incredible backgrounds (and stories) to share - it was fun learning how they got their start and went into business together. With backgrounds in design, entrepreneurship, finance, and a mutual love for fashion, they created a brand that it smart, stylish, and inclusive. We talk about extend...
Jan 15, 2020•1 hr 21 min•Ep 97•Transcript available on Metacast It’s a brand new year (and a brand new decade!). While neither of us are huge fans of setting “resolutions,” (it just sounds so drastic!) today we wanted to reflect on last year and share some goals for 2020! This week we are looking back on 2019 and sharing our biggest accomplishments from the year (and what could have been better) and setting some goals for the year ahead! We have have a few shared goals too (growing the pod, making Delta platinum, to name a couple). We both have a lot to be t...
Jan 08, 2020•1 hr 17 min•Ep 96•Transcript available on Metacast Happy New Year! Today our friend Kellie Brown joins us. Kellie is the founder of And I Get Dressed, a brand consultant, blogger + Youtuber, fashion industry PR prodigy, and body positive activist (she created the #fatatfashionweek hashtag)... amongst other things! She is a long time New Yorker, who recently made the move to LA and tells us about her career journey, the evolution of her blog + Youtube channel, and working for herself. She shares her views on weight loss, the dangers of “new year,...
Jan 01, 2020•1 hr 20 min•Ep 95•Transcript available on Metacast For our December book club, we’re reading One Day in December by Josie Silver. This was one of our favorite books from last year, so we had to make it a book club pick! What would you do if you had a “love at first sight” moment, but the man of your dreams turns out to be your best friend’s new boyfriend? The book follows the three of them over the course of a decade through life’s ups & downs and heartbreaks as they each grow and change. Grace reveals she once had her own “bus boy”. Both Grace ...
Dec 25, 2019•1 hr 7 min•Ep 94•Transcript available on Metacast For this month’s “Just Us” episodes, Becca had the idea to interview each other! This week Grace interviews Becca. We crowdsourced the questions from you and had so much fun interviewing each other. You already know Becca, but how well do you really know her? Today all of your questions are answered. Does Becca have a secret boyfriend? Becca tells us her goals for the podcast (and her instagram too!), what it’s like gaining an online following, thoughts on the word influencer and why she doesn’t...
Dec 18, 2019•1 hr 22 min•Ep 93•Transcript available on Metacast We’re so excited to have our friend Kate Kennedy join us today! You probably know her from her podcast, Be There in Five… OR her book Twinkle, Twinkle Social Media Star, her hilarious pop culture commentary on Instagram, or her viral doormat business. She talks about how she started her business, how she came up with the idea for the podcast, and her career journey. We talk about press trips, Instagram triggers, the influencers we admire most, and (of course) Taylor Swift, and why Kate is such a...
Dec 11, 2019•2 hr 53 min•Ep 92•Transcript available on Metacast In this episode of Bad on Politics we dive into one of our most-requested topics… healthcare! We’re joined by New York Times journalist, Margot Sanger-Katz, to break down the various healthcare structures on the table in this election and which candidates support which plan. We also spend some time discussing the implications of these plans and whether they’re feasible (or likely given our current congressional map). We’re certainly feeling way more healthcare-literate after this episode, and ho...
Dec 09, 2019•41 min•Ep 91•Transcript available on Metacast For this month’s “Just Us” episodes, Becca had the idea to interview each other! This week Becca interviews Grace and in two weeks, Grace will interview Becca. We crowdsourced the questions from you and had so much fun interviewing each other. You already know Grace but today she’s answering your questions. What really goes into working for yourself as an influencer, the nitty gritty behind choosing brands to work with, how sponsorships work, testing products, and even turning down brands she do...
Dec 04, 2019•1 hr 20 min•Ep 90•Transcript available on Metacast 
