We are delighted that a good friend of the Value Perspective podcast, Jake Taylor, has returned to converse with us for a third time. Jake is a value investor, the author of the Rebel Allocator and co-host of the excellent podcast, Value After Hours, which he co-hosts with Tobias Carlisle. In this episode we dive into the kindness and power of simply making yourself available to listen; why value investors must continue to evolve; the business of chicken sexes; the psychological safety of holdin...
Feb 03, 2025•54 min•Transcript available on Metacast In this Allocator’s Edge series episode of the Value Perspective we’re joined by Madison McCall, an active product specialist at Vanguard, where she has worked since 2017. With eight years at the firm, she is halfway to the impressive 16-year average tenure for fund managers at Vanguard. Her family’s background in journalism has sharpened her ability to communicate how fund research creates an edge in active management. Pus, as a triplet, she is no stranger to cutting through noise in a crowded ...
Jan 30, 2025•45 min•Transcript available on Metacast In this episode of the Value Perspective, we’re joined by Eva Shang, the co-founder and CEO of Legalist, a tech enabled investment firm specialising in litigation assets, based out in San Francisco. Eva started the company after dropping out of Harvard at the age of nineteen and has since built Legalist into a notable player in the alternative credit space. At the time of this recording in October 2024, Legalist was in the process of raising for their fourth fund and their previous funds have sh...
Jan 20, 2025•45 min•Transcript available on Metacast In this Allocator’s Edge series episode of the Value Perspective we’re excited to welcome Swen Lorenz as our guest. Swen is the founder and CEO of Sarnia Asset Management. He also runs the deep value research platform Undervalued Shares and organises the one-of-a-kind Weird Shit Investing Conference. If you’re drawn to unconventional off-the-beaten-path investing ideas, Swen is the man to know. From litigation finance to biotech to just downright weird assets, Swen uncovers some of the most intr...
Jan 16, 2025•44 min•Ep 144•Transcript available on Metacast We’re thrilled to kick off the New Year with our first guest Stephen Clapham. You may remember Stephen from our episode at the Quality Growth Conference, but he’s widely recognised in both City and Wall Street circles for his impressive career. He’s been a sell side and a buy side analyst, founded his own research boutique and launched the popular website Behind the Balance Sheet, which offers courses on understanding accounting in complex situations. Stephen is also the host of a highly regarde...
Jan 06, 2025•57 min•Ep 143•Transcript available on Metacast In this special Christmas episode of the Value Perspective we welcome back Stacy Havener to dive into the business of branding, PR and content creation in asset management. Stacy, a frequent Value Perspective guest is the founder of Havener Capital, a firm dedicated to helping boutique asset managers to launch, build and grow funds. In this episode we cover: the biggest challenge in getting investors to embrace the branding journey; the asset management industry’s obsession with performance; the...
Dec 16, 2024•50 min•Ep 142•Transcript available on Metacast Our guest this week, on the Value Perspective is Adam Rozecwajg, a deep value investor with a specialised focus on the materials and commodities industry. Together with his partner, Adam co-founded Goehring and Rozencwajg, a firm dedicated exclusively to investing in natural resources. Commodities are perhaps the best example of the capital cycle theory, and Goehring and Rozencwajg’s investment process reflects this perfectly. They are a fundamental research firm focused exclusively on contraria...
Dec 02, 2024•1 hr 7 min•Ep 141•Transcript available on Metacast This week, in an Allocator’s Edge episode of the Value Perspective, we’re delighted to be joined by Khaled Said, one of the founders of Capital Generation Partners, also known as CapGen. CapGen specialises in managing large pools of capital for families, endowments and individuals, helping clients build portfolios that not only protect wealth but also put it into productive use through diverse and dynamic strategies. Khaled bring a unique perspective as the ‘voice of the client’ to CapGen, advoc...
Nov 28, 2024•1 hr•Ep 140•Transcript available on Metacast This week on the Value Perspective podcast, we’re delighted to be joined by Alex Roepers, a guest at this year’s London Value Investment Conference. Alex is the Founder, President and Portfolio Manager of Atlantic Investment Management and a legend in the value investing world. With nearly 40 years of experience, he has navigated countless market cycles and gained a reputation as a ‘gentleman activist’, someone who engages constructively with management to unlock value, especially in the industr...
Nov 18, 2024•1 hr 6 min•Ep 139•Transcript available on Metacast In this Allocator’s Edge episode of the Value Perspective we welcome Dan Zwirn, the CEO and CIO of Arena Investors. Dan co-founded Arena in 2015, creating innovative solutions in special situations and distressed debt markets. Arena now manages around $3.5 billion, specialising in complex investments across various sectors globally. Before Arena, Dan led multiple speciality finance ventures and founded DB Zwirn and Co, a $6 billion firm in global special situations. He brings decades of experien...
Nov 14, 2024•1 hr•Ep 138•Transcript available on Metacast This week on the Value Perspective podcast, we’re joined by Harry Crane, Professor of Statistics at Rutgers University. Harry is a master in probability, risk and their real world applications. His book Probability, Intuition and Common Sense covers how the role of intuition and common sense is often diminished in decision making in professional contexts. This episode is co-hosted by returning guest Luca Dellanna. We discuss: the differences between studying probability and statistics; challenge...
Nov 04, 2024•1 hr 7 min•Ep 137•Transcript available on Metacast This week in an Allocator’s Edge episode of the Value Perspective we’re joined by John Husselbee, Head of Multi-Asset at Liontrust. John last joined us for our Meet the Manager series and it’s good to have him back. With 38 years of experience, John is a seasoned fund manager and analyst, specialising in multi-asset, multi-manager funds. He leads a team managing target risk portfolios and bespoke investment solutions. Before joining Liontrust in 2013, John co-founded North Investment Partners an...
Oct 31, 2024•1 hr 3 min•Ep 136•Transcript available on Metacast This week on the Value Perspective podcast we’re delighted to bring together two leading practitioners, who sit at different ends of the Value investing spectrum, to discuss and debate their similarities and differences. The fascinating conversation, split over two episodes, features Nick Kirrage, Head of the Value Team at Schroders and Jacob Mitchell, Chief Investment Officer and Lead Portfolio Manager at Antipodes Partners. Antipodes is a global equities manager with a pragmatic approach to Va...
Oct 24, 2024•51 min•Ep 135•Transcript available on Metacast This week on the Value Perspective podcast we’re delighted to bring together two leading practitioners, who sit at different ends of the Value investing spectrum, to discuss and debate their similarities and differences. The fascinating conversation, split over two episodes, features Nick Kirrage, Head of the Value Team at Schroders and Jacob Mitchell, Chief Investment Officer and Lead Portfolio Manager at Antipodes Partners. Antipodes is a global equities manager with a pragmatic approach to Va...
Oct 21, 2024•39 min•Ep 134•Transcript available on Metacast Recently we attended the London Quality Growth Conference and we’ve put together a special quilt episode, featuring many of the key speakers at the event. One of the things we love about recording this podcast and attending this type of conference, is it gives us a chance to step outside of our usual circle and have conversations with people who think differently. Whether it’s Value, Growth or Quality it’s all investing at the end of the day, and hearing new perspectives sharpens our own thinkin...
Oct 14, 2024•1 hr 19 min•Ep 133•Transcript available on Metacast This week we’re delighted to welcome Andrew Walker to the Value Perspective. Andrew is a portfolio manager at Rangeley Capital and the voice behind the popular podcast Yet Another Value Podcast. He authors a Substack under the same name. He is also a huge fantasy reader and has given us some of excellent book recommendations, that you’ll hear at the end of the episode. In the episode we discuss: Andrew’s take on whether the value investing philosophy is still alive and what it's like building a ...
Sep 30, 2024•54 min•Ep 132•Transcript available on Metacast This episode is the second part of our conversation with Willian Green. William is the bestselling author of Richer, Wiser, Happier and one of the most respected voices in the world of investing. If you missed part one, we encourage you to check it out at we covered some thought-provoking topics, from the challenges of writing a new book to the value of independent thinking. This episode picks up right where we left off, continuing our dive into the wisdom Wiliam has gleaned over decades of inte...
Sep 19, 2024•43 min•Ep 131•Transcript available on Metacast This week’s special episode features Willian Green, bestselling author of Richer, Wiser, Happier and the host of the podcast with the same name, which has featured some of the greatest minds in investing. Educated at Eton, William has been a journalist for decades and has had the privilege of sitting down with some of the most influential investment personalities of the last 30 years. He takes us on a deeply personal journey, filled with wisdom and anecdotes from his conversations with legendary...
Sep 16, 2024•1 hr 4 min•Ep 130•Transcript available on Metacast This week on the Value Perspective, we’re joined by a lovely but anonymous guest, who, for legal reasons, we’re going to call Lionel Hutz. Lionel is the author of the Substack Valorem Research, where he provides research for investors on uncorrelated legal special situations, covering issues such as merger arbitrage, patent litigation and international arbitration. By day, he is a legal expert who specialises in special situations. In this episode, we discuss: what legal special situations are a...
Sep 02, 2024•53 min•Ep 127•Transcript available on Metacast In this episode we welcome Andrew McDermott from Mission Value back to the Value Perspective. He’s here to help unpack the recent turmoil in the Japanese market that kicked off in early August. We discuss: whether anyone could have seen this coming; the concept of recency bias, especially during the latest downturn; strategies for managing portfolios in such extreme environments; the fascinating concept of convexity within equity investing; and finally the broader narrative around Chinese and Ja...
Aug 22, 2024•28 min•Ep 129•Transcript available on Metacast In this episode of the Value Perspective we welcome Andrew McDermott and Yohei Yamada from Mission Value. Mission Value specialises in the Japanese market, with over two decades of experience in a value investing philosophy. Their network includes legends like Martin Whitman, Peter Cundill, Richard Oldfield and even Warren Buffett, whom Andrew visited in Omaha to discuss Japanese companies. In this episode we cover: human biases in the Japanese market over the last 30 years; long cycles in value...
Aug 19, 2024•1 hr 21 min•Ep 128•Transcript available on Metacast This week on the Value Perspective, we’re joined by Anthony Cheung, the Chief Content and Culture Officer at AmplifyME. AmplifyME provides financial simulations in markets, banking and technology while partnering with universities to enhance finance programmes and with financial institutions to recruit and upskill their graduate talent. Anthony is also the cohost of the Market Maker podcast. We sat down with Anthony to discuss: how he balances his research with short-term market noise; the quest...
Aug 05, 2024•48 min•Ep 126•Transcript available on Metacast This week, we're joined by Django Davidson from Hosking Partners. Django Davidson is a portfolio manager and a founding partner at Hosking Partners. After graduating from the University of Oxford, where he studied geography, Django joined Deutsche Bank and became a director at just 27 years old. Influenced by reading Berkshire Hathaway and Buffett partnership letters, Django transitioned to the buy-side, first joining Algebris before helping Jeremy Hosking establish Hosking Partners in 2013. Tod...
Jul 22, 2024•51 min•Ep 125•Transcript available on Metacast This week on the Value Perspective, we’re joined by Cole Smead, the CEO and portfolio manager at Smead Capital. We recently caught up with Cole at the London Value Investor Conference. Smead Capital advises investors on building wealth through a low turnover value-focused approach. Cole is also the host of the podcast A Book with Legs, so be sure to add that to your listening list. In this episode we discuss: Cole’s journey with Smead Capital; how the firm’s checklist processes human biases and ...
Jul 08, 2024•57 min•Ep 124•Transcript available on Metacast We’re delighted to be joined by Chris Pavese for this episode of our Allocator’s Edge mini-series. Chris is the CEO and CIO of Broyhill Asset Management, a spin-off from the Broyhill family office. Chris is also the founder of the Broyhill book club. If you’re curious about the firm and the family, their website is a treasure trove of information. Chris is the perfect guest to provide a masterclass on family offices: what they are; and how they operate from an investment perspective. Before join...
Jul 04, 2024•1 hr 24 min•Ep 123•Transcript available on Metacast In this episode of the ESG mini-series of the Value Perspective, we’re joined by Stephen Lezac, a senior leader at OxCarbon, a startup spun out of Oxford University in 2021. OxCarbon focuses on bringing transparency and solving issues around carbon credit offsets through a principles’ driven approach and academic peer review. Stephen, who leads OxCarbon’s carbon accounting team is also a PhD candidate at Cambridge, a researcher at the Oxford University Centre for the Environment, a Fellow at the...
Jun 24, 2024•1 hr 2 min•Ep 122•Transcript available on Metacast This week as part of the Allocator’s Edge mini-series of the Value Perspective, we have a masterclass in fund selection with two of the UK’s top fund selectors, Kelly Prior and Scott Spencer. With decades of experience, Kelly and Scott bring a wealth of knowledge from their roles at Columbia Threadneedle, BMO Global Asset Management and Credit Suisse. Together they offer over 45 years’ of expertise in fund research and portfolio management. In this episode, we: dive into the ABCs of fund selecti...
Jun 20, 2024•1 hr 3 min•Ep 121•Transcript available on Metacast This week on the Value Perspective we welcome author and consultant Luca Dellanna as our guest. Luca is the author of 10 books, but his latest on the topic of ergodicity has really caught our attention. Ergodicity is a revolutionary concept that challenges traditional thinking. It posits that by focusing on maximising short-term outcomes, we can ensure long-term success. Luca’s book breaks down this complex idea into an accessible and understandable format. Ergodicity is fundamentally about the ...
Jun 10, 2024•53 min•Ep 120•Transcript available on Metacast In this episode of our Allocator’s Edge mini-series we’re joined by Joe McDonnell, the CIO of Border to Coast Pensions Partnership, one of the UK’s largest pension pools. Joe’s career began in the 1990s on the sell side when he honed his skills and expertise in equities, derivatives and fixed income. He then spent a decade managing retirement funds for IBM and Shell, deepening his asset allocation knowledge. Joe then moved into asset management with roles at Morgan Stanley and Neuberger Berman b...
Jun 06, 2024•43 min•Ep 119•Transcript available on Metacast This week we have a special live episode, recorded at the recent London Value Investment Conference. This annual event attracts Value investors from around the world to discuss and present on this investing style. The Value Perspective’s Juan Torres Rodriguez and Vera German opened this year’s conference with a discussion on emerging markets. In this episode we catch up with eleven attendees, including some familiar guests from previous episodes of the Value Perspective. We discuss the current s...
May 28, 2024•1 hr 2 min•Ep 118•Transcript available on Metacast 
