In the movies, detectives trail a suspect until he messes up and throws his DNA-soaked paper cup into the trash. In real life, they just pretend like they don't understand the word "identify" in order to abuse the 4th Amendment. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and other Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support . 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. Rachel Ward is our producer. Leon Neyfakh...
May 21, 2024•42 min•Transcript available on Metacast What to do if you get arrested (not legal advice), why are the liberal justices just sitting back while conservatives devour the judiciary, and whether or not to vote for Biden - you've got questions, we've got maybe not "answers," but definitely "responses." If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and other Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. Rachel Ward...
May 14, 2024•6 min•Transcript available on Metacast Rhi got locked up. The food was bad, the comrades were immaculate, and while the friendless centrist pundits on Twitter were wrapping themselves in knots to try to argue protests aren't speech, the kids were keeping the focus where it belongs: On Gaza. If you don't think laws are real either you can get a sick shirt about it from Shout Your Abortion: https://shout-your-abortion.square.site/shop/apparel/3 If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get exclusive Premi...
May 07, 2024•1 hr 4 min•Transcript available on Metacast E Pluribus Unum, more like E Pluribus Sue Them! In America, if your landlord refuses to do repairs, you sue 'em. If you get food poisoning from a chain restaurant, you sue 'em. But if you're stripped of your bodily autonomy by your state legislature via a bounty hunting scheme, you CAN'T sue your state in federal court, because of Hans v. Louisiana. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get exclusive Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and mor...
Apr 30, 2024•34 min•Transcript available on Metacast Listen, we're not going to do the whole merch thing again, but it's time to hang up the robe and hit the beach. Or: another episode where we call for Sonia Sotomayor to retire. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get exclusive Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. Rachel Ward is our producer. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. Our research...
Apr 23, 2024•6 min•Transcript available on Metacast Santa isn't the only one who keeps a naughty and nice list. And if your organization winds up on the United States' list of bad boys (designated terrorist organizations), you can forget about receiving legal representation or assistance from US-based firms. That's material support, according to this holding, even if that support doesn't contribute to terrorism in any way. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get exclusive Premium-only episodes, access to our S...
Apr 16, 2024•45 min•Transcript available on Metacast Texas passed a law that allows it to police the US border with Mexico without regard to federal policy. That may seem like a little oopsy but actually it's a big "fuck you." If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get exclusive Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. Rachel Ward is our producer. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. Our researcher ...
Apr 02, 2024•6 min•Transcript available on Metacast The Court does not want you to plead not guilty by reason of insanity and to enforce that, they'll happily sign off on you being institutionalized for far longer than the prison sentence that you would have served. You'll need a mental health day after this one for sure. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get exclusive Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects....
Mar 26, 2024•48 min•Transcript available on Metacast This is the story of a man with the worst luck in the whole world, and how Jay-Z called the whole thing. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get exclusive Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. Rachel Ward is our producer. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. Our researcher is Jonathan DeBruin, and our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Ou...
Mar 19, 2024•47 min•Transcript available on Metacast We're joined by Balls and Strikes' Jay Willis in this emergency episode to talk about Trump v. Anderson, which challenged Colorado removing Trump from the primary ballot. In a shocking twist, the Court held that Colorado can't do that. JK that's not shocking - the twist is that the dogs you hear barking in this episode are Jay's, not Michael's. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get exclusive Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, jo...
Mar 07, 2024•50 min•Transcript available on Metacast The legal academy is losing its mind. Good news for us, the profs are talking about their broken brains in the New York Times. Today on the show, Peter, Rhiannon, and Michael discuss The Crisis in Teaching Constitutional Law by Jesse Wegman to snark on the state of legal education. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get exclusive Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Proj...
Mar 05, 2024•7 min•Transcript available on Metacast You can't sue the President if they wronged you, as long as what they did was in the course of their official duties. And maybe possibly if they did it out unofficially out of spite, or because they were just feeling crimey that day. Thank goodness we have this fantastic precedent to help us deal with Trump's many cases! If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get exclusive Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/su...
Feb 27, 2024•1 hr•Transcript available on Metacast Groundhog Day but make it interrogation. The Supreme Court says cops are welcome to keep hauling you in for questioning as long as they honor an arbitrary waiting period. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get exclusive Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. Rachel Ward is our producer. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. Our researcher is ...
Feb 20, 2024•50 min•Transcript available on Metacast Let's burn this motherfucker down metaphorically speaking OF COURSE! Today we're talking about how to counter Fed Soc's influence on campus and in the courts. The game plan isn't to copy their strategy - it's to play to the left's strengths. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get exclusive Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. Rachel Ward is our producer. Leon N...
Feb 13, 2024•8 min•Transcript available on Metacast The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didnt exist. He learned it from the Federalist Society, by watching them steadily shift the terms on which all contemporary legal issues are argued. Now even progressive jurists feel compelled to debate the debate club on its own turf. The Devil is duly impressed. For more about what Fed Soc hath wrought, check out Amanda Hollis-Brusky's Ideas with Consequences: The Federalist Society and the Conservative Counterrevolution (Oxf...
Feb 06, 2024•55 min•Transcript available on Metacast First you get the money, then you get the power. But FIRST first you get the law students. This week we're exploring the tentacles of the Federalist Society, and how a so-called debate club pulls levers across government, the legal profession, and academia, to achieve its conservative ideological goals. Hear more from this episode's contributors: Vanessa A. Bee is the author of HOME BOUND: An Uprooted Daughters Reflections on Belonging (Astra Publishing, 2022). Andrea Bernstein's reporting with ...
Jan 30, 2024•1 hr 18 min•Transcript available on Metacast There's a powerfully connected right-wing organization operating at every elite law school in the nation. It built itself by leveraging the conservative victim complex, the Reagan revolution, networks of judges and activists, and cold hard psycho millionaire cash. This is the story of the Federalist Society. If you can't get enough of these monsters, you may want to read The Rise of the Conservative Legal Movement: The Battle for Control of the Law (Princeton, 2008) by Steven Teles, or lis...
Jan 23, 2024•1 hr 11 min•Transcript available on Metacast Every year we like to shout out organizations that inspire us or have deeply embarrassing kompromat on us. Good luck guessing which is which! https://www.icareaboutcoral.org/ https://shoutyourabortion.com/ https://www.assignedmedia.org/ https://www.librariesforthepeople.org/ https://palestinianfeministcollective.org/ https://www.newalternativesnyc.org/ https://www.projectstreetvet.org/ https://fa.urbanjustice.org/donate/ https://secure.actblue.com/donate/eoy2023pl If you're not a 5-4 Premium mem...
Dec 22, 2023•22 min•Transcript available on Metacast This episode was available early to Premium members. If you'd like that kind of perk, consider joining at fivefourpod.com/support. Ryna Workman and Jinan Chehade were both knocked off the Big Law course they thought they were on, after expressing solidarity with Palestine. Now they're on a mission to make some good trouble. Thanks for being a 5-4 Premium member! Your support means the world to us! 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. Rachel Ward is our producer. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons...
Dec 21, 2023•1 hr 3 min•Transcript available on Metacast Ryna Workman and Jinan Chehade were both knocked off the Big Law course they thought they were on, after expressing solidarity with Palestine. Now they're on a mission to make some good trouble. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get exclusive Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. Rachel Ward is our producer. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial sup...
Dec 19, 2023•7 min•Transcript available on Metacast It's basically impossible to amend our crummy Constitution, as demonstrated by the litany of proposed amendments that have face planted directly into the dustbin of history. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get exclusive Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. Rachel Ward is our producer. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. Our resea...
Dec 12, 2023•6 min•Transcript available on Metacast Our nation has laws, procedures, and courts for settling labor disputes. But what if you're a concrete company and you don't wannnnnnnnnnnnnna go through the system that Congress authorized specifically for this purpose? Then you take it to state court baybeeee - and see if SCOTUS will let you sneak out of the National Labor Relations Board process. Hey, did you know that if you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode? To get exclusive Premium-only episodes, access to our S...
Dec 05, 2023•56 min•Transcript available on Metacast Get a load of this - this guy accepted a SALARY for TEACHING at a SCHOOL. Simply not Supreme Court justice material. Get the guy who sold a house to a billionaire instead. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get exclusive Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support. Read the book that inspired this episode: Battle for the Marble Palace by Michael Bobelian Massive thanks to Workers Defense Project in Au...
Nov 28, 2023•5 min•Transcript available on Metacast We want to dedicate this episode to Vermont and Maine, the only two states in this whole goddamn country that let everyone exercise their Constitutional right to vote. What are they putting in that syrup? Everywhere else, you've got Richardson v. Ramirez to thank for the movement to disenfranchise people who've been caught up in the criminal punishment system. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get exclusive Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack communi...
Nov 21, 2023•39 min•Transcript available on Metacast War! Huh! Yeah! What is it good for? Absolutely suppressing speech! Read "The Anti-Surveillance Coalition's Highest-Stakes Gamble" by Spencer Ackerman https://foreverwars.ghost.io/the-anti-surveillance-coalitions-highest-stakes-gamble/ Listen to Know Your Enemy: Elon Musk, the Jews, and the ADL, with Mari Cohen, Alex Kane, and Peter Beinart https://www.dissentmagazine.org/blog/know-your-enemy-elon-musk-adl/ If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get exclusive Pr...
Nov 14, 2023•54 min•Transcript available on Metacast You are a person with power. Now is the time to use it. Call your representatives: https://ceasefiretoday.com/ Join a protest: https://www.shutitdown4palestine.org/ Follow: @palestinianyouthmovement @motaz_azaiza @byplestia @wizard_bisan1 @mohammedelkurd @pal_legal Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....
Nov 07, 2023•6 min•Transcript available on Metacast A conversation about Legally Blonde has to do with the Supreme Court how? Because we assume in Elle's universe she's now chief justice, and John Roberts teaches PE at a middle school in Buffalo. 5-4 Premium members get this full episode, and our extensive back catalogue of Premium-only episodes. To make sure you can hear every episode we release, and get access to our Slack community, first dibs on live show tickets, invites to monthly events and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support. 5-4 is pre...
Oct 31, 2023•6 min•Transcript available on Metacast We're sharing this episode of Rhiannon's movement lawyering series with all of our listeners. Our Patreon subscribers heard it first, back in March. In this episode, Rhiannon talks with Palestine Legal's senior staff attorney Radhika Sainath and staff attorney Dylan Saba about their mission to protect Palestinian activists from harassment, and the power of intersectional liberation movements. You can learn more about Palestine Legal here: https://palestinelegal.org/ And if you'd like to join the...
Oct 24, 2023•55 min•Transcript available on Metacast This case about discrimination on the basis of pregnancy might have you thinking that Potter Stewart said "trans rights are human rights." Absolutely not. Mans said "get back in the kitchen, wench." If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get exclusive Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. Rachel Ward is our producer. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial...
Oct 17, 2023•55 min•Transcript available on Metacast In a world where the police are charged with protecting your Constitutional rights, they'd be climbing all over themselves to read you your Miranda Rights. We don't live in that world. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get exclusive Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. Rachel Ward is our producer. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support...
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