Today, I am thrilled to host Daisy Christodoulou, an esteemed author and education expert renowned for her groundbreaking work on curriculum design and assessment. Daisy's thought-provoking insights have reshaped the way educators approach teaching, and her books, including "Seven Myths About Education," have become essential reads in the field. In this episode, Daisy will delve … Continue reading S4E25: Daisy Christodoulou on Assessment Practices and Challenges...
Mar 11, 2025•54 min•Transcript available on Metacast Today I am excited to be bringing you an episode of the DI podcast with Randi Saulter and Ann Baum. Randi and Ann are two passionate special education teachers who will take us through what Zig Engelmann called the “picky, picky” details of implementing DI in special education classrooms. This episode is chock full of … Continue reading S4E24: Randi Saulter and Ann Baum on DI in Special Education Settings...
Mar 08, 2025•49 min•Transcript available on Metacast Hi everyone, Zach Groshell here. Avid readers of my website will know that I was recently on a show called The Literacy View, which is also one of the podcasts in my listening rotation. It was with great excitement that I was able to snag hosts Judy and Faith for a very Literacy View episode … Continue reading S4E23: Faith Borkowsky and Judy Boksner on “What’s Hot” in Literacy...
Mar 03, 2025•49 min•Transcript available on Metacast Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect. Fans of my blogs might remember the interview series that J.R. Wilson and Barry Garelick provided around their book, Traditional Math. I'm excited to bring you the voices behind this common sense approach to math instruction. In our chat, we talk about a wide range of topics, including... 1. Breaking … Continue reading S4E22: J.R. Wilson and Barry Garelick on Engagement and Conceptual Teaching in Math...
Feb 24, 2025•47 min•Transcript available on Metacast As we get closer to Spring, I am excited to be working with The Writing Revolution as part of my consultancy. The Writing Revolution, or TWR, is an explicit instruction approach to writing that was created by Dr. Judith Hochman. This method has been celebrated by proponents of cognitive science as a solution that adheres … Continue reading S4E21: Judith Hochman, Christine Teahan, & Toni-Ann Vroom on the Writing Revolution...
Feb 16, 2025•48 min•Transcript available on Metacast A few years ago, I came upon a paper titled, "Why Educators Resist Effective Practices" with the provocative subheading, And What It Would Take to Make EducationMore Like Medicine. It was written by Douglas Carnine, who I would come to learn was not only one of the most important voices in advocacy for evidence-based education, … Continue reading S4E20: Doug Carnine on Advocacy for Evidence...
Feb 05, 2025•40 min•Transcript available on Metacast I am excited to bring you an episode of the Thinking Out Loud series with my friend, Gene Tavernetti, who is cross posting these episodes on his podcast, Better Teaching Only Stuff that Works. During the episode, we talk about "rehearsal tasks", which are simply practice opportunities that a coach or presenter can plan for teachers. … Continue reading S4E19: Thinking Out Loud… Is Rehearsal Necessary for Effective Coaching and PD?...
Jan 20, 2025•40 min•Transcript available on Metacast In this episode, I chat with Blake Harvard, aka The Effortful Educator, about applying cognitive psychology to the classroom. Blake and I presented together as part of the cognitive science strand at EdFest USA this year, and we share similar perspectives on the importance of bridging the gap between research and practice. In this interview, … Continue reading S4E18: Blake Harvard on Attention and Memory Constraints...
Jan 14, 2025•47 min•Transcript available on Metacast In this episode, I chat with Kris Boulton, a legend in the space of translating principles of Direct Instruction (DI) into actionable steps for all teachers. It is such a great episode, with some very powerful messaging around the crucial role of the teacher in conveying and breaking down information so that all students can … Continue reading S4E17: Kris Boulton on Atomization, DI Principles, and Unstoppable Learning...
Jan 10, 2025•1 hr 14 min•Transcript available on Metacast In this episode, I catch up with Natalie Wexler to discuss her new book, Beyond the Science of Reading. Our wide-ranging conversation covers often underrepresented areas of the science of reading, including the importance of background knowledge for comprehension, cognitive load theory, and explicit writing instruction. Listen and subscribe to Progressively Incorrect on…SpotifyYouTubeApple PodcastsWordPress This … Continue reading S4E16: Natalie Wexler on Knowledge, Cognitive Science, and ...
Jan 01, 2025•44 min•Transcript available on Metacast Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. https://www.amazon.com/Just-Tell-Them-Science-Explanation/dp/103600368X Listen and subscribe to Progressively Incorrect on…SpotifyYouTubeApple PodcastsWordPress This is … Continue reading S4E15: Brendan Lee and Zach Groshel...
Dec 23, 2024•49 min•Transcript available on Metacast Today I am excited to bring you an interview with Kim Lockhart. Kim's work focuses on the science of reading and its application in second language programs. She has been a vocal advocate on social media for moving away from balanced literacy and adopting evidence-based approaches to teaching reading. When I first encountered Kim, it … Continue reading S4E14: Kim Lockhart on Supporting L2 Learners with the Science of Reading...
Dec 16, 2024•57 min•Transcript available on Metacast Should students be taught to count on their fingers? Today I am excited to bring you an interview with Catherine Thevenot. Catherine is a researcher at the Institute of Psychology at the University of Lausanne in Switzerland. Her work focuses on cognitive development, particularly in the area of numerical cognition and arithmetic skills in children. … Continue reading S4E13: Catherine Thevenot on Counting on Your Fingers...
Dec 08, 2024•32 min•Transcript available on Metacast Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect. My name is Dr. Zach Groshell, and today I am excited to bring you an interview with Jan Hasbrouck, the keynote speaker at NIFDI’s 2025 National Direct Instruction Conference and Institutes. Dr. Hasbrouck is a renowned researcher and author with a distinguished career dedicated to improving literacy and educational outcomes. Dr. … Continue reading S4E12: Jan Hasbrouck on Reading Fluency and Direct Instruction...
Dec 01, 2024•57 min•Transcript available on Metacast Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, I am your host, Dr. Zach Groshell. This episode is a conversation between me and Sally Bergquist. Sally is an extremely talented and experienced teacher, and she recently challenged me to teach my child to write with her Engelmann-inspired writing program. It was an enormous pleasure to be able to … Continue reading S4E11: Sally Bergquist on Explicit Writing Lessons for K-2...
Nov 26, 2024•43 min•Transcript available on Metacast Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. It is now Amazon's newest BEST-SELLING book in education! Listen and … Continue reading S4E10: Nathaniel Swain, Steven Capp, and Katie Roberts-Hull on Harnessing the Science of Learning...
Nov 18, 2024•54 min•Transcript available on Metacast I am excited to bring you an episode of the Thinking Out Loud series with my friend, Gene Tavernetti, from his podcast, Better Teaching Only Stuff that Works. I am hosting a free instructional coaching webinar on November 25, 2024. Sign up here and join me and special guests to learn about Steplab's platform and approach … Continue reading S4E9: Thinking Out Loud… What is it Like to be Coached?...
Nov 08, 2024•38 min•Transcript available on Metacast Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. https://www.amazon.com/Just-Tell-Them-Science-Explanation/dp/103600368X Listen and subscribe to Progressively Incorrect on…SpotifyYouTubeApple PodcastsWordPress This episode … Continue reading S4E8: Christopher Such on Prac...
Nov 03, 2024•1 hr 5 min•Transcript available on Metacast Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. https://www.amazon.com/Just-Tell-Them-Science-Explanation/dp/103600368X Listen and subscribe to Progressively Incorrect on…SpotifyYouTubeApple PodcastsWordPress This is … Continue reading S4E7: Brendan Lee and Zach Groshell...
Oct 27, 2024•1 hr•Transcript available on Metacast Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. https://www.amazon.com/Just-Tell-Them-Science-Explanation/dp/103600368X Listen and subscribe to this podcast on…SpotifyYouTubeApple PodcastsWordPress Today I … Continue reading S4E6: Robin Codding on Fluency and Strategies ...
Oct 19, 2024•58 min•Transcript available on Metacast Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. https://www.amazon.com/Just-Tell-Them-Science-Explanation/dp/103600368X Listen and subscribe to this podcast on…SpotifyYouTubeApple PodcastsWordPress Today I … Continue reading S4E5: Steplab + Teach Like a Champion with Dou...
Oct 12, 2024•56 min•Transcript available on Metacast Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. https://www.amazon.com/Just-Tell-Them-Science-Explanation/dp/103600368X Listen and subscribe to this podcast on…SpotifyYouTubeApple PodcastsWordPress Today I … Continue reading S4E4: Tamara Bressi on Effective Coaching for ...
Sep 26, 2024•54 min•Transcript available on Metacast Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. https://www.amazon.com/Just-Tell-Them-Science-Explanation/dp/103600368X Listen and subscribe to this podcast on…SpotifyYouTubeApple PodcastsWordPress In this … Continue reading S4E3: Brendan Lee and Zach Groshell on the Nua...
Sep 20, 2024•1 hr 22 min•Transcript available on Metacast Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. https://www.amazon.com/Just-Tell-Them-Science-Explanation/dp/103600368X In this episode, I catch up with Rodrigo Lopez to … Continue reading S4E2: Rodrigo Lopez on Putting Principles into Practice in Chile...
Sep 10, 2024•1 hr 1 min•Transcript available on Metacast Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. Listen and subscribe to this podcast on…SpotifyYouTubeApple PodcastsWordPress In this episode, me and my friend Gene Tavernetti catch up after a busy summer to talk about strategies for effective modeling from the new book, … Continue reading S4E1: Just Tell Them – The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching...
Sep 05, 2024•48 min•Transcript available on Metacast Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect and to the season 3 Finale of this podcast. In this final episode before I take a break for the summer, we are going out with a bang by bringing back one of the most respected and influential cognitive psychologists in the world, Paul Kirschner. Before we go over to … Continue reading S3E21: Paul Kirschner on “Let’s Talk Evidence” and the Latest Debates Over Inquiry Learning...
Jun 26, 2024•55 min•Transcript available on Metacast Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, I am your host, Dr. Zach Groshell. This episode is the second of two DI podcast episodes that I am releasing this weekend ahead of the Progressively Incorrect Season 3 finale with Paul Kirschner. Progressively Incorrect is brought to you by John Catt Educational, which publishes some of the best books … Continue reading S3E20: Casey Sovo on Improving Reading Outcomes for Indigenous Students...
Jun 23, 2024•57 min•Transcript available on Metacast Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, I am your host, Dr. Zach Groshell. Today I am excited to be bringing you the first of two DI podcast episodes that I will be releasing this weekend ahead of the Progressively Incorrect Season 3 finale with Paul Kirschner. My guests are DI mathematics experts Marcy Stein and Bernadette … Continue reading S3E19: Marcy Stein and Bernadette Kelly on Direct Instruction Mathematics...
Jun 22, 2024•56 min•Transcript available on Metacast Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, I am your host, Dr. Zach Groshell. Today I am thrilled to be speaking with Meg Lee and Jim Heal, two educators at the cutting-edge of evidence-based education. They're going to be talking to us about the work they're doing to scale the science of learning up and across this … Continue reading S3E18: Meg Lee and Jim Heal on Evidence-Informed Practice at Scale...
Jun 15, 2024•55 min•Transcript available on Metacast Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, I am your host, Dr. Zach Groshell. Today I am very excited to be speaking with Scott Hill, the Superintendent of Evergreen School Division in Manitoba, Canada. We will be talking about evidence-informed school leadership, including the shift that Evergreen has made towards a science of reading based curriculum, and … Continue reading S3E17: Scott Hill on Evidence-Informed School Leadership...
Jun 10, 2024•54 min•Transcript available on Metacast 
