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Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace

Olivia Mangione and Grace Hellerpodcasters.spotify.com
Two high quality gals (Grace Heller and Olivia Mangione) discussing low quality TV and anything else that comes to mind.
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FINALE!!! THE BACHELOR!!! GRANT!!!

So is it just us or was the most shocking part of this episode seeing Clayton on our screens again? Well folks, it is time to wrap up another season of this great show we call The Bachelor. It always seems to just fly by. Now Grant and Julianna are off to make their way in the world together and Litia will likely be in a relationship with a hot Mormon athlete before you can say "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." We now have a little time to relax and recoup before possibly the gr...

Apr 04, 20251 hr 22 min

Fantasy Suites - The Bachelor (Grant)

Anders isn't part of this episode and we're as disappointed as you are about it. We hope you enjoy the episode anyway, at least as best you can given the circumstances. We yet again have questions for production this episode, such as, why did you do that? Will you hire us? And what did Zoe ever do to you? xoxo Grace and Liv

Mar 26, 20251 hr 27 min

Women Tell All - The Bachelor (Grant)

Well this is what we get for being excited for Women Tell All. Disappointment. Liv and Grace were not always on the same side this episode because they were on different team. Liv's team = reasonable in terms of right and wrong Grace's team = what makes a good storyline for TV Unfortunately everyone lost because it was not interesting TV nor was any justice served. They basically didn't even show Chloie! What was the point??

Mar 20, 20251 hr 12 min

Hometowns - The Bachelor (Grant)

We are both very tired and fear we have to admit it shows in this episode. The number of times we had to trail off because the simple word we were looking for eluded us... was a lot.... This week the Mormons were SO Mormon and the Italians were SO Italian. Hometowns marks the beginning of the end of the season and leaves us wondering "what the heck are Zoe and Dina doing here?"

Mar 13, 20251 hr 9 min

Week 5 - The Bachelor (Grant)

On this week's episode, Siri cannot stop making appearances, and we are forced to confront that we do not actually know what the word "Celtic" refers to. Apologies for being uncultured swine. Grant continues to baffle and bamboozle us as he carries on down the road towards hometowns.

Mar 06, 20251 hr 18 min

Week 4 - The Bachelor (Grant)

We are absolutely cruising through this season! Did you know there's only one episode left before hometowns?? WTF?? This episode we truly never knew what was coming next. There is a new playbook in use and someone forgot to loop us in. The world is entirely falling apart and maybe we shouldn't be taking comfort in a show that is truly returning to it's heteronormative patriarchal ways with this season, but it's too late and you can't stop us!!! (cue laughter mixed with screaming) xoxox Liv and G...

Feb 26, 20251 hr 14 min

Week 3 - The Bachelor (Grant)

This week we are excited to talk about Grant's burgeoning music career and perhaps a little about the episode as well. Just a warning, our video call was on a slight delay so there are some pauses in the conversation while we wait for the audio to catch up. We were hoping we played it off smoothly, but listening back.... we did not.... Every time you hear an awkward pause, take that time to curse Xfinity in your mind. xoxo

Feb 17, 20251 hr 28 min

Week 2 - The Bachelor (Grant)

Well, it's that time of year again. The time of year when Grace is working on a play and therefore our recording schedule gets completely out of whack. Also when her watching schedule gets completely out of whack. We are nevertheless going to try our darnedest to get episodes out as quickly as we can!! Continue to stay tuned, we haven't forgotten about you we promise. xoxo Grace and Liv

Feb 13, 20251 hr 19 min

Night 1 - The Bachelor (Grant)

Limos and lamas and violent t shirt canons, oh my! Grant's season start off strong with many, many smooches and some fun entrances. Grant is already proving to kind of be the strong, silent type, so it'll be up to this cast of women to stir things up. We have no doubt they are up to the task. We are so excited to be back and recapping yet another Bachelor season for you all, and we hope you have as much fun listening as we did recording! As always, we love you lots! xoxo

Feb 01, 20251 hr 16 min

The question game with Grant's cast (ft. Mason Lok!!)

Okay we are SO back this time!! We biffed it on recapping the Golden Bachelor and we will be the first to admit it, but we can and will do better! That resolution starts with our favorite pre-season tradition, the question game with Mason Lok! As usual, he knows nothing about the show, we know too much! We're the perfect combination. Another resolution Grace has is to stop saying "like" so much. Hate to sound like a boomer, but it is truly horrifying to listen back to. Check out the ABC cast bio...

Jan 26, 20251 hr 12 min

The Golden Bachelorette (weeks 1-3)

Okay we are finally back, and are sorry it took us so long! We decided to adopt the same recording schedule for The Golden Bachelorette as we did for The Golden Bachelor last year, without realizing they increased the episode length (those bastards!!). Therefore you are all getting a nearly 2 hour episode sprung on you on a random Monday morning in October. Enjoy!

Oct 07, 20241 hr 50 min

FINALE - THE BACHELORETTE (JENN) (ONE OF THE CRAZIEST THINGS WE'VE EVER SEEN)

Holy shit you guys, where to even start. Neither of us saw this one coming, and suffice to say our shit was rocked. Also we recorded this on Friday (9/6) so this recap doesn't even include some of the shit that is still storming (apologies there, but how were we to know)??? The injustice that Jenn has been faced with time and time again on this stupid show. And the way she has handled all of it without stuttering once??? One of the most horrible seasons of the bachelorette of all time (for her),...

Sep 11, 20241 hr 37 min

Fantasy Suites (and a little MTA) - The Bachelorette (Jenn)

Hi team, so sorry this is late!! Grace ran into some very minor computer issues, but all is well now. Please enjoy this slightly rushed recap of Fantasy Suites and the main highlights of Men Tell All. We did suffer through it this time around, and you know we HATE to do that! We wish Jenn's top 3 were not in fact her top 3 but what can you do?? Justice for Hakeem!!!

Sep 04, 20241 hr 30 min

The Bachelorette - Hometowns (Jenn)

Guys Jenn could have chemistry with a rock (aka Marcus). She had us giggling and kicking our feet all episode! If only there was a guy who actually wanted to be there besides maybe Devin, then everything would be perfect! In this recap Grace would like to fight Jeremy's family and Liv would like to tell you the exact longitude and latitude of Marcus and Jenn's Tacoma date. Thanks as always for listening, and we are already DYING to talk fantasy suites with you!!!!! xoxo...

Aug 26, 20241 hr 9 min

Jenn is an amazing bachelorette (week 1-6)

We're baaaaack bitches! Did you miss us? Cause we missed you. We are so sorry to leave you hanging on what has been a truly amazing season thus far. Please forgive us, it can be your wedding present to Liv. Since the last time we talked she became a wife??? What???? We are praying that will be true for Jenn soon as well, but with this group of guys.... It's not looking great. In an attempt to get ourselves back on track, please enjoy 1+ hour of us rambling about the season thus far. We do an ove...

Aug 14, 20241 hr 19 min

FINALE!!!!!! - THE BACHELOR!!!! (JOEY!!!!!)

Okay, here we are, only a week after we recorded the episode. Once we came down from the high that was this finale, it was hard to find the motivation to edit this episode. Apologies, but the wait is now over! Please tune in to hear us recap one of the best finales in the history of this franchise. We cannot say enough good things about the cast and how it all went down. This episode shocked us, made us laugh, made us cry (????), it was perfection. As Liv says, if the entire bachelor franchise e...

Apr 04, 20241 hr 57 min

Women Tell All (and end of Fantasy Suites) - The Bachelor (Joey)

We are famous WTA (and MTA) haters!!! And we LOVED this episode!!! Maria is a queen! These ladies are smart and accomplished! Lauren is an immediate icon! Everyone got mad at Lea for saying "gaslit" and it was so validating! And now we have 2 major questions. 1). What is the dramatic thing that happens at the end of Joey's season? And 2). Who on GOD'S GREEN EARTH is going to be the Bachelorette????

Mar 23, 20241 hr 30 min

Fantasy Suites - The Bachelor (Joey) (Anders' Version)

Guys we may have actually Mandela Effected ourselves. Both Liv and Grace have a distinct memory of a shot of Joey and Rachel making out in front of a waterfall being present in trailers for this season. However, when we went back, we cannot seem to find it??? We may be losing it, but thankfully we have our fantasy suite faithful guest Anders to hold us down.

Mar 16, 20241 hr 22 min

Hometowns - The Bachelor (Joey)

In this week's episode Liv and Grace continue to express uneducated medical opinions, and you as the audience will learn that despite the fact that that Grace #believesscience she cannot bring herself to believe in supplements or anemia. On the subject of Joey, hometowns was a fun episode! Crazy stuff happened! Andy bet all the napkins!

Mar 09, 20241 hr 10 min

Week 7 -The Bachelor (Joey)

Okay we're SORRY this is late. We actually recorded it at a very punctual time, but Grace was feeling unmotivated and did not get around to editing it until now. And if we're being honest she didn't give it her all. Hopefully she didn't miss any juicy secrets she was supposed to cut out.... You'll just have to listen and see.... Is this a new baiting tactic we're trying to get people to listen to the podcast...? Now that's one secret we'll never tell. xoxo

Mar 05, 20241 hr 10 min

Week 6 - The Bachelor (Joey)

A succinct and efficient weekly recap for you all! Not sure what sped us along so quickly this week, it may have been the threat of danger coming from the yellowjacket in Grace's room. We remain delighted with this season, and thoroughly stumped as to who will be making it to hometowns! We cannot wait to watch LIVE and TOGETHER for the next episode and hope to have this coming week's recap out very soon. Thanks as always for listening. xoxo

Feb 26, 20241 hr

Weeks 4 & 5 - The Bachelor (Joey)

Who has the time to dedicate themselves thoroughly to 4 hours of TV in one week??? Okay apparently the answer is us, but it was a challenge (and before you feel targeted remember that when we watch the bachelor it is WORK not PLEASURE). And while we can apparently dedicate ourselves to 4 hours of TV, we simply cannot dedicate 4 hours to podcasting. Therefore you are receiving a very condensed recap of the two episodes from this past week in one succinct, efficient podcast episode. You're welcome...

Feb 20, 20241 hr 34 min

Week 3 - The Bachelor (Joey)

We need to start off this week with a very somber and serious apology to my good friend Autumn who we so egregiously misrepresented in the last episode. She prepared a statement for us to read on her behalf so tune in for that. Anyways we loved this episode! We love Joey! We love Jenn! We love Jesse Palmer! We love it all!

Feb 14, 20241 hr 19 min

Week 2 - The Bachelor (Joey)

Please excuse us, we just need to slip into something more comfortable... Excellent. Now that we are both looking sexy and hot we can finally begin recording! Sorry for the delay in this episode, schedules are hectic and the grammys are on! This week we were excited to see Rachel emerge as a front runner as she deserves to be, Daisy and Joey make loving eye contact, and Maria be her genuine self which frankly we can't fault her for. We can't wait to keep watching as this season is really shaping...

Feb 07, 20241 hr 22 min

Week 1 - The Bachelor (Joey)

Guys, we love Joey. We love him. It's no surprise that this episode boosted ratings for the first time in years because we are CHARMED. Charmed by him, charmed by Daisy, absolutely blown away by Lea, weirded out by Lauren, etc. This is already shaping up to be an amazing season of the bachelor and we cannot wait to keep watching Joey on his journey to find love. Which we hope he doesn't end up finding so he can be Grace's plus one to Liv's wedding...

Jan 31, 20241 hr 11 min

Joey's Cast Bios Question Game (ft. Mason Lok!)

It's the start of a new season and you know what that means! It's time for a special pre season episode with everyone's favorite non-bachelor watcher, Mason Lok! We answer such burning questions as, who is the meanest to waiters? Who definitely drives a Prius? And much, much more! (You know Liv wouldn't let us out of one of theses episodes without asking who is most likely to be a magical creature...) If you'd like to follow along with us, the ABC cast bios that we used to record this are linked...

Jan 23, 20241 hr 18 min

FINALE!!! - BIP (2023)

Oh boy. Not going to lie to you guys, this episode has a weird energy. Mostly we are bummed at such a lame an unsatisfying end to what used to be the best part part of the franchise. Then Grace gets weirdly worked up and angry in the middle kind of about nothing? Then we transition to whining about it being boring, finishing off the episode by trying to bring the vibes back up for Joey. What can we say? This episode sucked and this season was poorly designed. That's not our fault, they didn't as...

Dec 19, 20231 hr 28 min

Special Golden Bachelor episode!! (WTA, Fantasy Suites, and FINALEEEEEEE)

Two episodes in two days?? We spoil you! Just kidding. We just don't have our shit together. Please enjoy our thoughts on the final 3 episodes of this inaugural season of the Golden Bachelor. It seems like there is simply no way they won't be continuing this series, and we can't wait to keep watching. Our thoughts in this podcast episode are a little disjointed we'll admit. But if you want to hear us gush about the women of this season then you've come to the right place. We had the absolute bes...

Dec 13, 20231 hr 1 min

Week 9 - BIP (2023)

Okay so it took us a while to record this. And then it took Grace even longer to edit and publish it. What do you want from us??? We are not machines! Sleep is an activity now! Anyways, we think all episode of the bachelor should actually just be one hour because this was a tasty little treat this week. Join us as we continue to ride the sinking ship that is this season of bachelor in paradise all the way to the ocean floor.

Dec 12, 20231 hr 2 min

Week 8 - BIP (2023)

You guys, we were feeling a little narcissistic this episode so why not lean in for the episode description and tell you that we feel this was one of our best recaps of the season. We were on fire! Or maybe just delirious from hunger! Only you can be the judge! Please enjoy and try not to judge our (Grace's) inflated sense of self too much. xoxo

Nov 21, 20231 hr 13 min
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