Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rut Fresh Radio, bringing you the latest reports from the whitetail Woods, presented by First Light, creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind. First Light Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your hosts ca C. Smith and Tyler Jones.
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Tyler, you've been deer hunting as well. I have, man, just tell me what you have learned about deer in the past week. So I have I have. I have one thing that I it was solidified as it wasn't necessarily learned because I learned this in twenty twenty one. I solidified a thing that I came up with a couple of years back called the thermal stall, oh and the ts I think it was, which we decided that TSS, which is a you know, shotgun shell is also it stands for a turkey snood chooter on the way back.
But the thermal stall is a thing that deer do, at least in a certain part of the country. I have seen this happen, and I would imagine it translates to many places in the country where a deer will move into cover and stop and not do hardly anything and not go anywhere even in the daylight of the morning until the thermal action begins to start, and then the deer will move into that thermal wind to betting and potentially up to three quarters of a mile of
movement in broad daylight. But as long as they have that thermal head, you know, working into their nose, they feel pretty good about it. So we confirmed that that was a thing that's happening right now. And I think it's an early season thing a lot too for a couple of reasons, right because you don't have the rut. Going on, the rut changes a lot of this, right. And then also in the early season, we still have these kind of warm days and you start to see
where the nights will cool off some. And I think that what that means is there's a lot of thermal action and also your wind will die at that time as well. A lot of times, so as the as the earth heats up during the morning, you see where a thermal rise will start to create a wind, and then you've got a windy day, and then that wind as it cools off and the sun sinks lower, will start to die out, and then you will find where
your thermal will really fall. And I think it's emphasized in September and October especially.
Yeah, makes sense, man, you know, I think that I've seen this happen. And if you're hunting public land, it gets tough because a lot of times where the deer doing that at is a place you can't access. But if you hunt private land, maybe you can, maybe you can't because you don't have as much access because there's a lot more public land a lot of times. So it's I think it's what a lot of people call staging areas.
Sometimes you think about it in the evening a lot more. That's probably that's probably where you know, that's probably what the term means. I think a lot of people have always talked about staging areas though, and more of a sense of cover. Yeah, it's like, so I'm gonna stage here prior to leaving out to this beanfield. And maybe that's what it is. I don't know too, but it could be that that staging area these people are seeing, they're just not realizing it's because of thermals.
Yeah, well, there's there's potential there that at least I'm just going to speak for my own personal experiences. I've always thought about staging areas very remediately on my own part and just thinking, oh, they got there too early, so they're waiting until it gets dark to go out there. But deer really don't do very many things unintentionally, you know, They're very intentional with almost every.
Step they take. Pretty much only goal is to survive.
Yeah, so they do weird things all the time because they know to do a weird thing, right, Like they just they move just a little bit just for no reason, right and whatever. And so I think that there's a region the reason that you have a staging area, and it's probably in some senses at least because they know they can stay there and get a good whiff of stuff before they move out.
You know another thing that I should we should maybe debunk a little bit here is that I think, to go with your point of deer doing weird things, I think when you see a buck that's old, that gets old, a big buck, I think a lot of times people like to be like, oh, it's an old smart buck. And I think deer very instinctual, and instead of that buck actually being smart, I think whatever his instincts are,
or whatever his personality traits are. Not to personify a deer, but like you know what, I mean, his character characteristics, how he thinks about, how he goes about whatever. I think that those things, if he doesn't do things that are similar to other deer, or if he does things that are kind of odd because of his personality traits or whatever you want to say, that makes him hard to kill. And that's why he gets old. It's not
because he's a smart deer. You know, he's probably hasn't like necessarily, I mean, they can definitely learn some things if they have the potential to learn. Yeah, sure, but it's not. It's more that I think a lot of times a deer gets old is because he does weird things, and he goes to weird places and he prefers weird betting and stuff like that. You know, I think there's definitely ability to learn. So I'm not trying to really
de bonk. I'm just kind of being a little bit uh, you know, flip side of the court here.
I do think it's funny how I thought about this the other day. I was watching something or listening to something. Somebody said, Oh, he's just a smart old buck because he did a thing that like almost like would it imply that the deer predicted there would be a guy that true? Yep, that's right. And it's like that's just not how they're thinking, you know. You know, but have you ever watched The Prices Right.
It's been a minute.
Yeah, when you're sick, when you're a kid, The Prices Right was on about eleven, you know, and you got to watch that and there was a game on there called Plinko.
You're familiar to Plinko. Yeah, I feel like they dropped this thing. It looks like a big old shot the armored catfish, is it? No, that's that's a pleco So glad you brought that up though. That was cool.
So plinko essentially is the representation of a bell curve on an individual basis. So, but you have the ability to manipulate depending on where you drop the puck. But effectively, if you drop the puck right in the middle, say that, uh, that figuratively is the birth of a deer. Okay, And that deer that that puck is likely maybe likely isn't the right word. The highest odds of that thing is
hitting right in the very middle. But because of the bell curve principle, you'll have times whenever that's going to hit way on the outside margins.
Okay.
And that's kind of what you're talking about when deer characteristics A I would say the majority of deer are going to have characteristics that get them killed or shot, which are the same thing.
Sometimes. Yeah, it depends on get killed or nicked you know, at an earlier age. But on these margins out here, and those margins, it's not a circle ride, it's a linear graph. And so in these margins you got deer that survived are really old age and it's way less
than it is in that middle hump. Okay, And I like this example because in the margins in my mind, there are a deer that are living way out in the middle of nowhere that are like a real secluded and they get real wary because they're old and they've outwitted the coyotes to time or two and they might not ever see a person.
And then on the other end of.
The scale, there's a deer like we have on trail camera that's six years old and lives between two neighborhoods that also has figured out a niche and maybe it's not even figured out, but where his puck landed on Plinko was in a spot that he gets to survive to be an old age.
Yeah, it's like that deer can live, like I said, between two neighborhoods and never get shot even though there's people hunting around him, because like because for whatever, like okay, you know how some people are like night owls and some people are morning people, right, that might be the characteristic that keeps him alive, Like he might be for whatever reason, he might just like not be very diurnal at all.
Exactly it And it's not that he learned it, but it's just because you know, his twin from the womb maybe even was a buck that liked to daylight walk, uh huh, and it got killed. And in this book just because of his nature likes to not time walk.
Yeah, you live. He might be warm natured, you know what I mean. It's like people that like hot nature, they always want the ac on, you know, Well that deer just wants the nighttime ac on. You know, it could be so many things, And I think that that's what's cool about deer is because we will never know that, like we will never actually figure deer out. And that's what makes this stuff so much fun. Man.
Well, if your deer are warm natured, it doesn't seem like it's going to be a great week for you because everybody, I think most people at least talked about how we have a warming trend coming up over the next week. But we do have some details about how you could potentially still get on deer in your neck of the woods. Tyler, who do we have this week?
So we're gonna hear from Logan right in Wisconsin, one of the best deer hunting states of all time, potentially the best deer hunter of all time. Uh. And then we also have Jared Mills from Iowa right down the road.
Uh.
Eli House is going to be in Alabama. He's been doing some cool stuff, so we're gonna get a little bit of that pre red Alabama action. And then we've got Jay Gaylord from Hunter's Advantage. He's been in Oklahoma chasing the hard masked drop that's happening there and he's gonna be telling us how to get on deer. All right. I've got Logan right here. He's been up in Wisconsin doing some hunting. Logan, what's been going on? Man?
Oh, it's it's been pretty good, honestly, really good, good hunting.
We kill good hunting.
Kill the buck on Friday, my girlfriend did, and I just no complaints when you kill one, you know.
The first week in October, sure thing, dude. What's the weather been like up there?
Up until last week?
Midweek we got a cold.
Front that kind of pushed in. It had been like eighty upper seventies, eighties, and then it dropped down to sixty five last week for a couple of days and we were able to sink out.
So that cold front was was was that why you left out to hunt or is that why the deer changed what they were doing and gave you a shot?
Well a little bit of both.
My girlfriend coaches high school volleyball, so her schedule is atrocious for trying to get out deer hunting, especially with a two year old kid at home.
And she had off Friday, Saturday.
Sunday that weekend, and we had planned to hunt it already and it just happened to be a cold front pushing through at the same time, which was you know, having sent I guess.
So, was that your student still doing like a bid to feed thing?
Yeah?
I would say we hunted pretty much in the bedroom with a pretty good area for buff betting, especially I would say early October I.
Hunted that general area. So yeah, I mean we were on top of deer.
We actually jumped what we assumed was the target buck that we went in there to kill. And on the walk in where we were in like within twenty yards of where we were going to set up, and I heard one sounded like a freight train getting out of there, and we were pretty discouraged, but got up in the tree, saw a out of deer and had this one come through about six o'clock, so an hour before and illegal here. Wow, man,
so how did you know the bed was there? So this is a I've talked to you about it before, but this is a little tiny twenty acre property that I hunt and pretty much the whole thing is to cover and the general area in the early months, I would say end of September to mid October. It seems like in the past few years it's really narrowed down that it's where the where the bucks like to be vetted within them about one hundred yard radio so where we were.
So in the next week or so, do you think that you would still stay close to bedding or are you going to start doing some more movement get you know, where you're gonna be able to, you know, get a shot at them, closer to food sources and that kind of thing.
I think. I think scrapes you're going to be killer in the next week or so. Is like it's it's hot today up here, and it's supposed to be pretty mild for the next few days and then by the weekend we're looking at another pretty good cold push with some lows in the in the upper thirties. But you know enough to enough to get them deer really really starting to think about it for sure?
Man, have you seen any scrapes opened up so far?
Yeah, I would say over the So I hunted, actually I got to hunt Friday with her. I hunted Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning and afternoon and saw I don't know, probably a dozen scrapes when I was bouncing around between checking cameras and hunting. So there they started thinking about it.
That's awesome, dude. So scrapes in the next week or so, what do you think in the next week, based off of weather or moon or anything like that, or just even time and time of year, what do you think the deer the buck movement will be like on a scale of one to ten.
With the cold push, I'll give it an eight. I'm a I'm a I'm a big October guy, though I don't believe in no.
No October, little man. So Halloween, you're gonna be trick or treating or you're gonna be hunting.
Ideally hunting, but not in not in this state. I'm hoping to be tagged out in Wisconsin Halloween.
All right, man, So scrapes are going to be an eight in the next week or so, in your opinion, Yeah, up here for sure.
I don't know about everywhere else.
Yeah, yeah, Texas is gonna be different. I would, I would bet you well. I appreciate the report, man, and uh, maybe we'll check back in with you sometime later this year, see if you're in a different state or something.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I've got Jared Mills on the phone now.
He's been hunting in Iowa, and uh, he actually sounds like I just had some good success last night.
Jared, tell me, man, you shoot a big buck?
I did.
It was a good timing you and I scheduled this call and then I headed to the woods and killed one shortly after that, so kind of kind of cool it worked out that way.
It's a good time to catch up. Awesome.
Man, tell me the next time you need a tag field and we'll schedule another one.
You know exactly.
Well, you know, I know you you're a big buck killer, and for you to use a tag this early in the month of October, it had to be pretty special. So, uh, tell me how you I guess, like, what tactic you were using to target a big deer this point in the month.
Yeah, so it was actually on my second set of the season, you know here and I will open up October first, and I went out the opening day, But then in between then and now or then and last night, I was really focusing on getting my daughter her first year, which we were able to do a few days ago, and then I was out of town for Buddy's wedding a couple of days for a couple of days, and then got back and had another cold front come through. So basically I made two sits so far this year, and.
They have both been on the back end of a cold front.
And to me, that's kind of key for mature year in this early I would say the first half of October, that's really the recipe unless you're just right on the X. But to get get these deer moving in daylight, these mature bucks, it takes that cold or a little bit cooler than normal temperatures, I should say, to get a moving.
Then the other thing is just being in the right spot with regards to like, you know, these mature bucks are are still you know, it's it's not quite the pre rut yet, so there's there's still just you know, mature animals that are going to use everything in their favor with their guards, you know, the wind and thermals, and so last night I was on the spot that one of those kind of rare scenarios where the thermals and scent and terrain and everything were really good for him,
but also for me in terms of how I was able to get in out on on.
A creek ditch.
So it just just one of those spots where everything came together. He was comfortable there, but I was still able to slip in and get with him bow range.
That's awesome, dude.
So can you tell me what you mean when you say the backside of a cold front? Is that a specific time or is it do you just mean kind of after it's hit kind.
Of the first full day after it hits is usually I mean, that first day that it hits can be really good. It just depends on when it when it comes through and what the conditions are. You know, a lot of times you have that first day when it's coming in you have a little bit higher wind speed the north or west, cooling things down, and that can be a good time too. But I've overall seen a little bit more success on that first full day when
the you know, the pressure is up. That next day the winds calm down a little bit, but it's still cooler. Tempts those just I love those nights, you know, if you can hear everything come in as long as you don't get too light of wind that it's that it's you know, pretty variable and you get yourself in a in a spot that can get you in trouble, it can be killer for for this hunts just. I mean you feel like you have all your senses a deer
or comfortable movement just because it's cooler weather. And like I said, those thermal spots, if you can find a spot where those light wind speeds you know, don't affect you too much because you're pulling your thermal thermals down into a low spot. To me, that's as good as it gets this time of year.
So you know, in the next I don't know, a week or so, maybe as we get closer to the red I know you said there really wasn't a ton of like rutting action that you're seeing. Do you think things are going to pick up some or do you expect it to be pretty similar to as far as the dear action goes to what you've been seeing.
I think the only thing that's really going to hurt us, and I'm kind of been kind of looking at the forecast here is just warmer tempts.
It's going to be for the next.
Six or seven days, it's going to be hotter than average, and that that quickly subdues deer movement. But you know, as far as the activity, it's going to keep ramping up from the standpoint of what bucks are doing. And I've seen a huge shift just in the last week of mature buck activity. So this bucket I killed last night, for example. You know, up until a week and a half ago, maybe two weeks ago, he was very passive and everything is hard to get good pictures of of me.
Throughout the summer after velvet shit, it's hard to get a good pictures of me. He's always walking in the background, never coming into scrapes much.
You know I was.
I'd watch a field of a bunch of bunch of bucks paired up sparring, and he'd be off on his no no deer even look at him. He would just be focused on feeding, doing his thing. You know, clearly a different age class animal. But the last week and a half two weeks has been a dramatic shifting activity
for him. He's been you know, marking just territory like crazy in every scrape, aggressively working at just just almost a light switch and activity, uh for him and and other mature bucks that I have on camera too.
It's it's one of my favorite.
Things to watch that that uptick and movement and you know, territorial kind of behavior from these mature bucks. And I think that'll keep ramping up, especially as we entered you know, mid October to the late latter half when they really start looking for that first at.
Yeah, and that's the time that we get really excited about. So for right now at least looking forward for the next week, you know, it seems like across the country that the crops are coming out a little bit early, but we do have these warmer temps coming up as well, you know, kind of like that you know, late warm movement. What do you think you're going to rate the the buck movement on a scale of one to ten for the next week.
I think daylight movement.
I think it's going to be relatively slow, you know, all trying to go with like a five. But activity in general, except I think a lot of it will be nighttime, but I think we're going to keep seeing these bucks move around a little bit. They're just gonna wait till cooler temps and that's usually you know, after dark or or early mornings too. I see a lot of morning activity out of bucks this time of year.
The problem is, most of the time the risk isn't worth worth it, you know, trying to get in there before them. It's just just tough to get in mornings this time of year. But if you have a spot, it works. I do see a lot more movement, daylight movement in the mornings as opposed to the evenings this time of year, just because of the temperature.
Yeah, makes sense, man, Well, very cool stuff.
Do you. Congrats on the buck. Can't wait to see it on YouTube. And I hope you have a good rest of the season.
Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it.
All right. We're talking to Eli House. He's out in Alabama and he's been doing some deer hunting with traditional equipment.
How's that been going, Man, it's been going great. Just kicking off the season. Excited for the rest of it.
Yeah, did you have some success recently you want to talk about?
I did yesterday evening.
Man, I just got into traditional archery, which I'm hunting to the recurve. Just got into it this year and had some some sick success yesterday eating on my first year with a recurve and ended up being a book.
So man, that's awesome, dude. I had a recurve that my dad bought me a while back for Christmas. One year is awesome, Martin. And I was getting to shooting learning, you know, trying to learn best I could. About two years ago a shooting live on Instagram and the boat blew up, and so I'm not doing the recurve thing anymore. So kudos to you for not blowing your bow up and for shooting on with it. I'm sure you had to get pretty close. Huh. Yeah, man, you have to get rid of close.
I mean, I don't really trust myself at a long distance like you know some people would.
Sure how close was that buck?
He was right at ten yards?
Ten or eleven yard? So sorry, the computer's made a much noise. I'm gonna do edit here. Things are going wild.
Okay, all right back on it. Uh, okay, here we go, Sorry about that, here we go. So your strategy has to be to be real tight on the deer if you use traditional stuff. Right, So it's super early season in Alabama, I would say right, because I mean you're looking at like December type rup dates.
So what are those deer doing right now?
Right now?
Our acorn crop is not good this year, So they're looking for grains, they're looking for field edges, they're looking for corn, any acorns they can find, whatever kind of food source they can get on, they're going to be there.
So are you targeting like private agg fields and kind of sitting up between bedd and food Basically?
Yes, I've got a piece of private that one of my buddies lets me hunt on that is just basically pastor land. He runs cows on it, and it's got some you know, thick pine ridges running out around it, and I try to get in between them and the in the pasture land and on some of the field edges of the pastors. I have some food plots that I put in with just you know, five or six way blends whatever and anything to kind of try to attract deer.
How are you keeping the cows out of that food plot?
Oh?
Well, he's only got cows on certain certain pieces of the property, so thankfully they're not back there, you know, destroying it and keeping everything ate down.
Yeah for sure.
So did you have you know, eyes on deer or did you go in blind or pre scout this or how did you figure out, you know, kind of how to get in between them.
Yeah.
So I've hunted the property for three or four years. I actually took my biggest deer ever off of the
property two years ago with my rifle. So I've kind of learned how what the deer do and what days you know, certain bucks you can pattern to certain days, and what the pressure I've learned, and I don't know if it plays any part in it, but I've kind of went off pressure this year, Like on the high pressure days early season, I tend to see more deer and I run a cell cam too on it, so I kind of that helps you a lot, keeping up with you know, what wind direction he's coming in on,
what the pressure is that day, what time all that.
So sure, So next week or so is what's the barometric pressure gonna gonna look like? Good or bad?
It's supposed to supposed to be in the thirties after tomorrow tonight.
It's supposed to get down.
It's been like high eighties every day on lows in like the mid sixties. But this next week it's supposed to get down low fifties and a few days in the upper forties. So I'm supposed to be high pressure and I'm excited about it. It's the first cold front of the year. Season just opened, so I figure it's going to get pretty good.
Yeah, what what what do you think you'll be doing if you're trying to target a buck in the next week or so. What's the key? Is it going to be similar to what you're doing or something different?
It's probably going to be pretty similar. It's still early season. Come come rut or really right there, beginning of November, I'll start hitting some public and going and searching for a monster.
If you end up with a frost pretty soon, does that kind of change the way those food plots work?
Oh yeah, I like to I like to frost seed some of my food plots with like clover and that that tends to work pretty well.
Or either or either you know, cut it down.
As soon as that first hit frost hits a clover patch, the deer hammer.
It really yep, interesting, gotcha? So there's even some tactic as to what the plant and when to do it for what they're going to hit.
Yeah.
So whenever you talking about transition to this public stuff here pretty soon, are you trying to make adjustments to the way people are using the properties or you still like just looking for regular bed to feed stuff.
I will when when I make my transition to public I'm looking that's when I start hunting signs, scrapes, funnels, stuff like that. Even before I rut every hits, those bucks are still gonna be up on their food or on their foot or on their feet sorry, checking for you know, who's hitting, what's great and what buck's doing what, whether they're on the dose yet or not?
Yeah, got you cool.
So if you're looking at the next week here, you know, there's a there's a big system in the Gulf. I don't know if it's gonna bring you any moisture, but it might actually, you know, kind of give you some weird wind directions I would imagine for normal Right, and then you calculate that in with just the kind of those cool temperatures that you said are on the way. How do you expect the dear move it's going to be on a scale of one to ten over the next week.
Man.
With the cooler weather, I expected to be on a scale of one to ten around the six or seven, to be honest, compared to what they've been doing, you know, mainly night time movement. It being as hot as it has been. I don't think the hurricane is going to have too much of an effect on them. But I could be completely wrong, but I figure it's going to be on a on a six or seven.
That's good, man, It's it's going to get pretty good. So picking up into maybe a seven in Alabama this week coming up.
Man.
I appreciate the report, Eli, and I hope you get to shoot a bunch of more deer this year. I hope so too. Man.
I've got Jake gay Lord with Hunter's Advantage on the phone right now. He has been doing some hunting up in Oklahoma. What's happening, dude, Oh?
Not a lot, not a lot. What's been going on with you guys?
Well, right now, we're just all laughing and having a good time in East Texas.
But we've been doing some hunting here and there and everywhere, you know.
But it is that time of year when we're all thinking about deer, and quite honestly, a lot of us are getting overly enthusiastic about what's going on in the deer woods because we're ready, we're itching to get out.
And you have been out right and there in Oklahoma.
Yep, yep, yep.
Yeah.
So are you seeing good deer movement currently?
Well, if you looked on any Oklahoma hunting pages, you would think the deer movement is outstanding. But where I've been hunting, you know, we kind of hunt the more mountainous regions of Oklahoma and you know, generally in the state, like it has lower deer density and so you kind of expect not to see that many deer and it's kind of a quality over quantity situation. But that's just kind of where we hunt, where we like to stick with. But long story short, you know, the movement hasn't been
too good. It's kind of been in the nineties towards the evening and you know, the mosquito really love.
It, but you're not some of it, yeah for sure.
So since you're you know, doing a lot of that mountain hunting, I'm sure that you got acorns on the brain. And that's kind of how a lot of that stuff rotates this year, this time of year, right, you're just looking for hot feed or what are you doing up there?
Exactly?
Yeah, So down there, it's kind of like monotonous pines, and every now and then you get those those nice little oak flats and it can kind of almost get a little overwhelming trying to find, you know, that particular feed tree or however you want to.
Go about it.
But it's what we like to do is it's kind of the bed to food pattern. I guess simplified, that's what it is. But we tend to hug up more towards the bedding on where we think they're all betting at and try to cut them off between like that oak flat and maybe that five six year old clear cut that is now all overgrown. And that's that's kind of where we seems like they can bet anywhere, but that's kind of where we'd like to pinpoint them.
I hate to give away, you know, high quality info, but have you ever killed one on a pine cone pattern? I have not. I have not. I don't think so. So you don't think they hate those things?
I haven't. I haven't really thought about that too.
Okay, I'm just making sure you know acorns are in a pine piney wood scenario or the thing you should be looking for.
But in all, honestly, as an Oklahoma and you know, we're forty eighths in education here, I think so.
That's good honesty there.
Man.
We can trust this report, we know. So okay, so what about does does moon or weather affect you coming up or you're looking at any of that stuff?
Man, I think this is where the hate's going to come in.
But I don't really pay any attention to anything other than the winds particularly, and you know down there you get in those bowls and it's swirling, and so we have a thing where it's like if you're hunting the wrong spot and the wrong wind, you just you know, do a one eighty in your tree standing there the other way.
Yeah, I've heard Christians say that it's funny. You know what about uh what about like scrapes or anything? Is that something you're thinking about sometime soon?
Oh yeah, yeah, we'll go.
In, uh look for that sign, whether that be scrapes or rubs and down we had. It's kind of it's kind of hit and miss. You don't see as much sign as you do. Like normally it's you know, it's not an ag an ag spot by no means. It seems like we grow rocks more times than not. But so it's kind of harder to see the sign. But that's kind of what we look for. Is every now and then, down those old two tracks, you'll see some pretty good uh scrapes or rubs, and you kind of just hunt off those.
Is how we like to narrow down those areas.
So here in mid October, you're actually moving around and doing a lot of d season scouting.
You're not kind of sitting out and just observing.
Uh.
Yeah, that's that's typically what we like to do.
We like to bounce around in October to kind of narrow down the spots for where we want to sit, you know, come November when the movement's actually really good and we're we're actually smarter than the deer for once.
Yeah, yeah, that's it's hard to do sometimes, man, especially in Oklahoma. But I actually don't know how smart the deer are in Oklahoma, but the people is what I was referring to. Right. Yeah, one way, So in the next week or so, are you gonna are you going to kind of employ the same patterns here or are you gonna do you expect anything to change in the way you hunt or in the kind of actions of the deer.
I mean, So next week we're suposed to get a pretty good little cold front coming through, right So it's been in the nineties, and I think starting Monday or Tuesday it's supposed to be high as sixties and like lower forties.
So that's going to be pretty darn nice. So and all that'll do is just keep me on my feet a little.
Bit longer to walk to the next spot, you know, report gets too hot and I'm just tired and shoving up a tree right there. Yeah, yeah, kind of on that same pattern, you know, try to find those oak flats and look for sign and basically just try to find the most you know, the most diversity all in one spot that also has that that good betting around.
Yeah. Yeah, and that's good. That's a good tip man for that kind of a lot of people. That's relatable, you know, find diversity. So in the next week, with some colder temps coming in, but similar action as far as deer go, Uh, is this going to be you know, on a scale of one to ten. Is this going to be a good report or bad report? What number were we looking at here? Uh?
Man, I want to keep it honest.
I mean, just specifically for where we hunt, it's probably going to be a probably a three or four. With the colder temperatures, you know, it could turn into a five, but we'll just make it a median number and go with four.
How about that.
I like it, man. It's kind of like the opposite of a Midwest six. It works, that's real realistic. I appreciate that too.
You know, like everybody's so enthusiastic this time of year, but man, guys, it's not November tenth, right, So it's just you know, take take a.
Breath and realize what we're working with.
But you can kill deer on you know, days that are ranked a point five, you know, if you know what you're doing. So Jake, appreciate the good, honest report, man, and I hope you have a great season.
Hey, I appreciate y'all having me.
And one last thing, if I could say real quick, I know, as hunters, we all like to hunt and stuff like that, and we focus on those record book books, whether that be Pope and Young or Boone and Crockett. But you know, I think we need to take that back and focus on that good book and keep God first of the season.
Absolutely, brother, Thanks for that. Yeah, I really enjoyed this week's reports, and I think it's because we actually had some realistic numbers and it there are some unrealistic ones too, but I appreciate the optimism from the unrealistic, guys. I also appreciate the realism from the true numbers of Like, hey, guys, it's still early the October, right, but it's all fun either way.
Guys. A great thing go.
Check out right now is our friend Mark Kenyon had a pretty epic hunt for dear he called the wine wide nine, which happened to not be a nine point. The only way you're going to figure out how that happened to go is to go check out that video that we have posted a link below. And then also I barely owned. Tyler Jones had a hunt for the wide and massive and gigantic ten in Kansas as well last year, and that hunt just went live on the Element channel.
If you can hang a ring on it, he was an eleven, you know, actually he broke a brow times.
And how about that that's true.
You know, I always look at deer just for what their frame is.
Like.
If a deer is missing brow times, I don't count. He's still an eight to me.
Yeah, it's just eight without browse, which is weird, right. Deer math is a strange thing. It's kind of like chicken math, a girl math, all that stuff weird. But Tyler puts one of the best shots I've ever seen a person put on a deer.
On this deer uh and uh, it's just epic footage.
Go check it out.
If you haven't, we'd really appreciate that. Guys, it's time to get out and go hunting. Take it easy, you know, don't do anything too crazy, you know, make an observation, sit or whatever. But if you got the high anchor and just get out there in a big mix of maybe you'll kill it.
And I don't know.
We've talked to a couple guys this week that absolutely we're finding a way to have.
Some success and you can do it too.
This is rut fresh, Keep it fresh.