Ep.575: Rut Fresh Radio 9/21/2022 - Good ACCESS = Great BUCKS!

heard of. flactics, slactics, baby. That helped them getting on some giant bucks and have some really great hunts. So look forward to that. But right now I am actually in the room with one Tyler Jones, the mountain man himself, Tyler Jones, Mr Mule deer splitter, Tyler Jones. Man, how are you feeling, tyler? Are you black back over two hundred yet? Are you still slim pickings? I'm two tents

of a pound over two hundred. All right, just wait, man. Yeah, so been hogging out southern the last week or so. My goal is to be the second heaviest person on the element team and I've been that quite a few times. I don't think I am right now after my hunt. I'm still a little higher than you were because only hunting for two days, so I got to pig out on the way home and eat some Chil eyes, Um Buds. When you're a good hunter, man, no, you don't have

to hunt very hard. Uh, I wouldn't. I don't know if to say that, but no matter what, our buddy mark Kenyon will never weigh as much as you right, even though he's taller. He's he is what what did y'all call him? PENCILMAN's mark? Is Uh in Um Ottaho hunting hard right now. So he's not on the show with us today, but we'll have him and Josh on the show next week to discuss all of their adventures in Idaho and get the low down on what it's like hunting bucks in the West and what you can

look forward to now. But, Tyler, last week we talked a little bit about your mule to your hunt, and this is all sharpening us, getting US ready for up and and why tell hunts. But why don't you tell me a little bit about how you changed as a hunter hunting that mule, Deier um? Well, so actually the preparation of of like leading up to that hunt changed me as a shooter really. Um, I knew that this, that I would draw this tag Um, that I had

the points to draw it and would draw it. And so, basically, since I've known that, even before I drew the tag probably I started really like dialing in my shooting and being very consistent day in and day out with shooting. Um, I think there's a lot of guys out here that I understand this when I say this, but prior to Um doing this, I guess you could say full time, I um sometimes would pull out the bow about August and start shooting for the first time since November pretty much.

You know what I mean, and I think a lot of guys do that and I don't think it's I don't feel like for me there's a lot like riding a bike. I could literally pull my bow out and shoot accurately out to forty, which is all I mean, like really accurately out to forty, which is all I needed to shoot at deer Um back then. But Um, we do a lot of different things across the country now that might require different uh positions to be in

when you shoot slash different distances. Um. And I did shoot this melder at a long distance, and I did that I actually was ten yards inside of what I felt was good. Um. And I shot a group, a very tight group. My last group that I shot at distance, Um, was it was what I basically decided that was gonna to be. Um, you know what I end up shooting at. I actually talked to a guy last night at a fish fry and, uh, this isn't a fish boil, for all you wisconsiners out there, and that was what they

call it. A boyl. It's what a boy it's a boil, right, a bowl, when they like do like and stuff? No, I think they do. They have like a deal. They're probably yelling at me right now, but it's like a deal where you throw fishing to a boil instead of like, ah, I think so. It's definitely, you know, a little so. Uh. Anyway, at the fish fry this guy told me, you know, he said, Um, he was shooting good out of eight, and I was like really, he goes, yeah, I wan't

good enough to kill a deer. And I started thinking about it and I'm like, well, some people think that if you're shooting at the range, you know, inside of a deer's lungs, then you're good to go at that range. I'm just telling you right now. You guys know that is blackout city whenever a deer comes in. Sometimes. I believe it was Tony treach that said. You can have that. that. I was reading. What's his name? They got kills big mule deer. UHMER Omer, that's it. UH, he says. That's

what he says too. So yeah, I've heard him said it too. As you said, half of that or whatever, which I don't actually agree with either, but it's a good principle to possibly live by. But I would say, Um, before you answered the question, that was what I was

going to say. Is The answer for you is, and knowing you for a while like that's the thing that has changed the most I've seen in you as a hunter is your comfort at longer distances, and I think it comes from just some dedication to shooting, for sure,

and you're good at it. I mean you shot a really awesome white til last year at uh, pretty long range, and I say it, yeah, and then you shot, you know that's so relative for people, you know, but uh yeah, fifty and then you shot, because I know there's a people out there I think I'm an idiot for doing that, you know, but it was perfect. I mean, would you say leave is an idiot for shooting fifth a deer at fifty leave? I was the man. Believe I could

put it through his eyes. I guarantee you know what I mean, but you're not. But I practice a lot of people and I learned like what I where I can put it, you know, and I feel like if I'm shooting a four inch group at a distance, that I should be able to shoot a white tell at that. Yeah, exactly. All in all, ethics are literally based on yourself and what you think. Absolutely and if y'all are interested in watching that multary hunt, it's absolutely awesome. It is on

the element Youtube Channel. Go check that out if you haven't. Uh that that uh, that hunt is epic and I can't wait to see that deer. But back to your thing about like how it's on you. I just went to Arizona shot cal there Um and on the pack out with meat, I had my bow in a hand, in my hand and I rolled off of, you know, a rock and fail on my bow and we were just shooting out here today and I wouldn't shoot at

a deer at fifty. Right now. I can shoot good enough, but I need to go do a little work, you know, like inside of forty I would feel pretty good. But like, and that kind of stuff is gonna change throughout the season or even on a hunt. Like, for instance, in twenty nineteen I drew a really awesome tag for elk and that was a nine day hunt you and I were on. And at the beginning of that hunt I felt really good at seventy, but by day about day five or six, you haven't shot your bow much. You've,

you know, been doing whatever. Had that thing fall off a tree or whatever. You know, you know how I am. I like to kind of balance my both places like uh, you know, you need to be mindful of that kind of stuff while you're on a hunting trip, whether it's banged around on the truck, it's been on a horse and a pack in whatever it might be. Like things

changed throughout a hunt. So like on day seven of a hunt, maybe you range isn't quite what it was because you have been practicing it much, or maybe you're diligent and you do your practice midday or maybe at the time for that. I don't know. It's scenario specific and like the ranch buck, which was the year before, I had him at forty nine, completely calm, nothing, didn't

know anything was going on. He was out there like in the middle of the open and I'm sitting like ten foot up in a tree, so good angles and everything. At forty nine. Didn't take the shot and I say in that video like, man, I just haven't been shooting. It's no, it's late November and I haven't been shooting and I just didn't feel comfortable with it, you know. So it really is specific and I try to make

the best decision I can in the moment. Man, that was that was one of the biggest bucks, maybe the biggest buck I'd ever would have shot at the time. It just happens, man. You just gotta you gotta play it by a here and make the best decision you can.

Sometimes you live with it. Mark knows. Marks had his ups and downs over the years too, man, and that's what it is when you dear hunt a lot, and that's one of the things that makes bow hunting out siding is that it's not a for sure deal, even whenever you pull the trigger you know, whenever you've got uh, a rifle or a muzzled or whatever, you know, within a close range, it's still not add p crazy things happen. But like you and I know we we grew up

doing a lot of riffle huning. Like it's uh, you know, if you gotta deer a hunter yards of the rifle, it's dead rights. Usually, you know, with a with a bow, especially in the East Texas, white tail twenty yards ain't nothing. Songs might be in the next county by the Americans there, you know. So it's a it's a it's a cool

thing and it makes bow hunting super exciting. And today on the rout fresh portion of this podcast, we're actually gonna talk to some dudes who are really excited about things because some exciting things are happening in the woods.

You've got Brent Purvis from Georgia, we've got Brett joy from just Hunt Club in New Hampshire, we've got Jeff Danker from buck ventures in Kansas and we've got grant forny, the everyday outdoorsman in Maryland, and these dudes have been doing some really good hunting a lot of success in there's some big bucks going down for like mid September, which is I would almost call this like the second lull, or the first of the second you know, people talk

about the October lull, which is controversial in itself. But like when the velvets on the deer on summer patterns vellow starts coming off, everything goes haywire right like you and I have cameras across the country and all of a sudden we aren't seeing the same bucks. Once the

velot comes off, everything goes crazy. So be able to get on a big buck right now, once the velvet is off, is like a pretty tough thing to do, but it sounds like these guys haven't figured out and I do think that if you listen to kind of some of their tactics and some of the things they employed, as crazy as they might be, you just might be able to get on a big buck yourself. Now we've got Brent Purvis from Georgia on here. He's a pastor

down there and Georgia. Brent. What's been going on? Man? Man, it's been fun. I've got a good one. This week the deer been running kind of together, as you guys know. They've been in velvet. But, Buddy, I just missed it. So I just missed a velvet which has been a dream of mine. But yeah, I got got some velva still hanging off this deer, but got a good one the other night. That's cool, man. Yeah, I saw a

picture of that deer actually on Philip culpepper's story. Apparently he'd been, you know, talking to you about it and stuff, and that was really awesome, man. And I don't know, it's kind of cool to see him just out of velvet too, because those antlers look so fresh. They're so sharp, you know that haven't been rubbed up too much. Uh. So how are you uh kind of patterning these deer going into this hunt? So this here, you know, early season pattern. Some of my favorite stuff early and then

you got the road. We've got two different opportunities here. But early season. Um, what I did is I kind of did a scarcity tactic. I usually dumped out a lot of corn the first month and but the problem is they turned nocternal before opening day here in Georgia and it's hot. So I did scarcity. I put a little bit of corn out and I let it go dry for four or five days. A little bit of corn,

let it go dry. And what happened is that dominant buck wanted to come into the fastest and get that corn before those other little eight corners and four corners. So bottles my tactic and it and it paid off. And then I did something a little bit crazy. I I got winded on my first hunt and he was up, up when. So, I mean I had everything covered, sprayed down everything. So the next night I've been pouring acorn

rage in there with my corn. This sounds crazy, but I took a bag, trash bag nonsending, poured acorn range there. Let it sit for twenty four hour or so when I got up there. All the since we're familiar for this book, I I guess I've heard uh, during the Rut, you gotta be careful of stuff like that. You know what I mean? Yeah, you gotta be careful. That's right. Don't. Don't be using that tactic in November. Yeah, you may

get more than what you want. I'm telling you, dude, it's all right to go into wood smelling like a snack in September, man, but you do it November, it's gonna be rough. That's right then, so so let's talk a little bit about that. You know, you you said that the that you got winded. Did it? Do you think? You know, one of the things we've been talking with some of these guys about this week is the access uh that they've used. Is Did did that have to

do anything with access? And talk a little bit about how you were access in this. You know, I had good access. I was fortunate enough. We cut trails all throughout here, so I would ride my range or right down to the spot right even to feed, and I only did it at noon. So I stayed away from their their hour or that they would feed. But what happened is this deer, we actually called him Johnny Ringo off. You Remember that movie Tu Song that was remember Johnny Ringo.

He talked about that he was high strung. After thought killed and he said he to poor Solo. It was just too high strung. This there is for we've watched him for four and a half years. He's a five year old deer, or five and a half year old deer, and he was high strung. So he felt something was off. So I feel my access was good. We even moved the stand where he comes in, the entry point. He

would come in and not get around me. That's what was amazing about it is that he was fifty yards, you know, up wind of me and just felt something off that this deer has always been high strung. so Um that that was something I think that I talked to Philip culpepper, my buddy off hunt club, and I

was talking to him every evening. He said, man, got to change your tactics a little bit up and and that's where I started adjusting and adjusting with the corn some more, feeding up a little bit more, and then I actually came up with a crazy tag to the smelling like food and that night I killed him, he came within fifteen yards and never smelled. Oh Wow, that's cool, dude. So tell me more about that hunt that you were able to capitalize on. Yeah, you know, I knew he

had been coming in there a hunting. I gave him rest after he busted me, so I said right, this was smart deer. I gave him two days rest but kept feeding him. Then came back in and the wind died down a little bit that night, which was perfect. It was cool for Georgia. That's odd donea that that is in Texas is high and Um, he got in there and to eight pointers came out first and I thought, man,

that's strange. And they started getting weird. He started doing the whole thing when they started, you know, kind of kneeling down and backing away, and I knew I had him then and he came up fifteen yards from me, hung behind a tree for it felt like an eternity. He probably wouldn't fine minutes and then he took out two couple of steps at twenty yards and I just

made a bus of perfect hard shop but weird. It came out the front of the Um, the front, in front of the opposite leg, but it blew his hard out and he didn't go to yards down the heell. I mean, but choosing a g five and one of the g five mega meats and I have never seen so much blood. I mean I've shot here six is not seen that much blood. Like a door post in Egypt. Man, you know, just you ain't kidding. I'M gonna have to

use that on video this year. Man. Yeah, that's awesome, Dude. Man, it just feels so good when they're in tight and you know the shot is such a big deal, especially on the southern Jumpie deer, you know, like just the the Uh, I don't know, the UH, the calmness that there is and just knowing it's a shot that you for sure can make comfortably. You know, like anything out

past thirty. I mean I practice in the yard so far, you know, but anything out past thirties is you're really kind of a I toss up a little bit on white tell. You know, when you got them that fifteen twenty range, it's like they're they're dead meat, as you said with of the yeah. So, and it's so difficult too because the other side of that as they can hear, this deer is on edge that he could hear that, you know, be pulling back that bow and it got his attention and I knew how big he was already.

He should score number three in the county, Muskoga County, on boat kills and the history of the county. We're kind of a near city limits, but we got like thirty acres right outside the city limits. So he should score number three. But he was so on edge. I had he was so big. I knew he was gonna be a record. So I had to not look as at his antlers. I've been looking at that. I'm just looking at how do I touched this thing in your as might as possible, as quick as possible, cause the

moment I pulled he looked. Man, we don't bust the tapes out real often, but it sounds, you know, on a really big deer like that, it's definitely something to consider. I'm assuming you've measured him already. What did you tape out at? He taped out at like one forty two and some change. And of course they gotta let a sixty day period and go by then to send the you know, official measures. But for around here, you know, that's not that's not a giant. I've killed one sixties

in my bow and stuff like that. But in the city limits like this, he's gonna hit the record with that. Georgia boys like him urban bucks, it seems. Man. It's

a that's cool, dude. Yeah, yeah, so if you were to look at the upcoming forecast and just all the different, uh you know, uh situations that are going on out there in the white tailed woods, what would you rate, on the scale from one to ten, what you expect the deer movement to be like, specifically buck movement in the next week and the next week, I would say there's still in that pattern stage. If if you're feeding up, they're still good. It's cooling down here in Georgia, so

it's kind of getting exciting. Usually it's hotter than this. So I'd say the movement probably I'd say a six or seven, but you still can patterned these deer right now, which is exciting. It hasn't lost that. Y'All know how it is the first two to three weeks. You know, it's just as exciting as the Rut and here in Georgia, southern Georgia, when it dies, it dies off. So you you go dead there for, you know, a little while before November comes and thanksgiving. Then it kicks back up.

So right now is the time to be in the woods. Man, Awesome Day. Well, that gets me pump for sure, and I think I'm gonna leave and go hunting somewhere here pretty soon. But Hey, I appreciate you hopping on with this man and giving us the rundown there in Georgia and hopefully you'll get some more time in the stand this year. Absolutely, man. I look forward to it. Thank you all for what Y'all do. We Got Brett joy on the phone now. He is from just hunt club

and he is in New Hampshire. Brett, what's going on? Man? Oh, just at work today, waiting on the next col front and hopefullsh and good truck CARC picture stuff. Point. That's cool. So your day to day is going to work and just checking that APP the whole time looking for deer. Well, that's what I'm what's ends up happening more. Will tell him he gets you need to get some work done too. Well, one of the owners of the business. So only have

myself look at, and that's self. Accountability is tough, man. That's cool. Man. So Um here lately. What's U? What's been the vibe up there in New Hampshire? You know, it's a it's a funky time. It always is this time of year. You go kind of a you're we're in sort of the transition phase from the summer patterns to fall patterns. You of deer. They're in velvet, deer that are shed velvet Um. Some of that are really starting to feel that spike and testosterone. Some of that aren't.

So it's it's kind of highly variable Um this time of year. But we're kind of like I said, in that transition phase. We opened the fifteenth of September. So, Um, it's kind of interesting phase. It can be kind of feast or famine, if you will. Um, if you're on a deer that is kind of in his patterns. So or maybe he's he's changed the new pattern. You've figured him out. Um, he's gonna be on it for a bit and you have a really good opportunity to kill

him there. I think the general theme is that most of these deer are still pretty relaxed, they're still pretty daylight active and uh, you know there were they favor more to a consistent pattern than other times in the season. Sure. So. So what's the weather like and how does it compare to normal weather patterns? Um, you know what, had an extremely hot summer, but it seems like those cooler, cool attempts you just started to move in. We had a good cold front uh, the last few days, Um, right

for the opener. Actually they're kind of Thursday, Friday Saturday, which the first three days of the season. We had a good cold front. Our team killed a buck and a bear Um, and it had some good hunts. So yeah, that the TUMPS are good. Looking out it did warm up a little bit, but we look like we have another really good cold front coming in the end of the week. So I would say you can't really ask

for much more than that. Cold Fronts, the two cold fronts the first ten day of the season that happened to fall on weekends for the guys that can't, you know, during the week. So yeah, we should be that's cool. So with the hot weather is that? Does that make water a scarcity or um? Is it? Are you okay there? It doesn't seem like it. You have a lot of ponds and we have a lot of lakes, streams. Uh,

it seems like waters everywhere. Um, I'll be honest, I haven't focused a kind of on water in the past, watering holes are building and anything like that, because I just haven't seen much on water whenever on cameras on water in the past. So immittally it's been, you know, a few years since I've tried, but I just haven't seen a huge, huge draw there. I feel you. I'm the same way. Man Like water is. Water is tough

for me. I got a buddy, Tony, who knows a lot about that stuff and tries to convince me all the time that I need to be hunting on the water hole. But it's tough for me, you know, even hanging cameras, I don't see super consistency that that makes me want to be there, you know. So No, no, not to say that in different areas or different situations that could be the ticket, but it doesn't seem like it quits in our circumstance. What is the ticket right now in New Hampshire? Um, I think the ticket is

Um finding. Well, I would say, given you're targeting your chure back, which I know not every listeners, you know, really focused on that, but we are, is finding one of these deer and then trying to hone in on exactly is like small pattern, because they're not moving terribly

far right now. So I think the biggest challenge right now is finding one in this kind of the landscape we hunting is big timber, lots of mountains, thousands of thousands of eight or no eggs, so finding one can be probably at least half the battle was locating where that buck is in this this period of the season and then, once you do, trying to get tight to where's moving and manage your entry your exit. Um Manage your wind and hunt them accordingly. We like to try

to hunt and focus on cold fronts. That seems like that's the trigger that gets these mature deer moving in daylight earlier in the season. Um, you know, it's tough in the mountains to sit right on top of a bed like you may and different, you know, different regions of the country. A betting area maybe a thirty or forty Acre area on the mountain rather than, you know, one or two acres. So it's tough to kind of

calibrate how close you can get to that bed. So if you're hunting in a bedding area, you have a high probability of potentially bout me that here. So we're trying to stay on the edge and what that means is we may need a deer move a hundred yards and we may need them to move five hundred yards. So we're looking for those cold friends to get them kind of out of that bedding area. You know, the areas that we think are you know that they could

be in and moving. So that's kind of the ticket. Um. As far as food sources, it seems like there's food everywhere this time of year. We did have a great hunt on a buck coming to a food plot, but that's kind of the exception. We don't have many food plots and we don't have many bag areas, so that, I'd say the number one food source right now is red oaks. You have at least an areas. We hunt abundance of them. They're everywhere. As long as you have

some in the area, you're in good shape. I think trying to identify like a feed tree is probably pretty useless because we have thousands upon thousands of them pretty evenly distributed across there is these deer in so if you can find, you know, some of them in the vicinity of where this buck side, now you're in good shape. It's kind of like, okay, well, you know he's he's in here, there's food. What do you think he's betting? And then what we like to focus on is even

scrapes this time of yere close to it. You know where we think is a betting here and food source and hunt those scrapes because the most cold fronts hit, triggers movement and they kind of hit those scrapes and we can be in good buck, in good shape, I should say. Man, this does sound like some pretty kilar tactics there. If you were to look at the next week upcoming, I know you mentioned that cold front is kind of gonna hit here later in the week. What

would you product to the buck movement being like? In a scale of one to team, I would say it's probably again to be and we get some really good weather coming in. I think it could be an eight cos that's an exciting number. Yeah, no, it really is, because you know, if if these bucks start to fall under these ED fall into an early season pattern, um you can get on him. And then we have these temperatures which here I'm looking at like at the end of this week we have highs in the little fifties.

That's below average for sure for this time of year. Um, northwest winds, high pressure. Yeah, it could be really good if you're in the right spot. If you're not on the right spot, you're not on that deer. You'RE NOT gonna YOU'RE gonna be crying. But if you you are, you could be in the money. So that's on the spot you could be it could be a could be an eight plus. Yeah. Well, maybe, if you put your work in and know where one is, it's a good time to get in the woods there in New Hampshire. Brett,

we really appreciate it, man. I hope you have a really great season. Thank you too, you guys as well. Now we've got Jeff Danker from buck ventures. Jeff has been doing some hunting over in Kansas. Jeff, how are things going, man, well, we got a big buck in the bike and we're heading home. So, Casey, I think you're doing pretty good. It sounds sounds pretty skippy man. That's cool. So, uh, how'd that go down? Man? You were y'all seeing quite a bit of Buck Movement there

for the Kansas opener. Well, you know, we uh we got some farms up there that we've been really babying all year and actually for the last three or four years. So great farm but um man, weather has really put a damper on things and uh, you know, it wasn't the regular type punt. We had to kind of adjust on the fly. So so when you say baby and what exactly you mean, well, I just man, I think more I love shooting big deer, but I think I

love more than that. It is fixing up farms for big deer and just having those you know, whitetail haven type stuff. So just babying with food plots and, you know, keeping out there, just keeping these deer, these these farms just right for deer with water, food, everything that I can do. Yeah, so you're you're and you're probably pretty particular about what what are shot off that at that farm right, like it's gotta be a certain age or

something like that. Man, absolutely, we're shooting definitely age on on on what we call special deer. We do shoot some four year olds of times that we think aren't gonna be much Um, but other than that, yeah, we definitely have a strict game player. So y'all Z owned in on one of those special deer this past week, I'd imagine. Can you tell us little bit about that? Well, so, basically, we had, as we at this eight point last year, there was probably a hundred forty years deer and he

was a five year open. Really we kind of had him on the list to shoot him and he he got by. You know, some of our guys went after a different deer or whatever and uh, but he broke early, got a fight, broke early, didn't think a lot of it, but then he shed early and we're like man, what happened to this deer and and all of a sudden he comes back this year and he's got a big old double main beam and junk going everywhere and just

turned into a brute Um. And so yeah, my dad definitely picked him out and said, yeah, let's go see we can kill him, and that's what we've been doing this week. Man, that's cool. So you've mentioned the weather a little bit earlier. How are the crops there in Kansas? Is Is it a good year for crops? And Heaven Whitetail Movement to agriculture? Well, so this is my ideal. My thoughts on that is we we had a good spring. We had some some Ain in the spring and end

up there. We're at, you know, around medicine lode in that area. But then it went into the worst drought we've ever seen. So crops, you know, we had some good soy beans started and this NASS or deer, we're getting some things. But uh now, guys, it's awful. It is as bad as I've ever seen it. And and again that's got me in a little bit of of a whirlwind on on my stuff up there. I mean, basically,

we killed this deer. We we basically targeted water. Everything was about water, Um, and and even you know, obviously you can bait in Kansas and they're just not one corn. It's a real weird deer guys, M man. So that does count sound a little bit depressing, tell you the truth of matter. I know it's tough sometimes, but it makes it kind of fun, as long as the animals are in good shape. You know, to to have challenges

like that come along. As you kind of look forward this season, like in the next week or so, as we have these openers. Happened across the country. You know, Kansas just opened up. What do you predict dear movement to be like and what are they going to be

focusing on? Well, if I was to predict that right now, and I mean obviously, I looked at the fifteen day forecast every day and Um, you know, I live by guys, truly lived by Co Fronts, you know, drops and broometer rises and when you get, I don't care if you get a steady thirty two degrees, that thirty two degrees, that just stays thirty degrees and it's the same day every day. It gets hard to kill deer because it's just a it's a it's hard to get a change.

And then you multiply that. When you get just a you know obviously we're gonna be a hundred one up there on Monday. I mean, when you get that kind of stuff going on and it's and that's all it is. When you look at fifteen days, it's just hot, hot, hot and dry, hot, dry, hot, dry brometer staying the same. So as long as that stays it's gonna be tough stuff. I mean, you know you're sneaking in. I mean we shot this deer in the morning. Usually this time year

weren I ain't hunting in the morning. We're, I can weigh off the alfile fields and UM, getting these deer right where they're fixing to lay down. Um. And so again I'm hoping it'll snap out of it. When I talked to all the farmers, you know they're looking at the farmers farminact. You know they're predicting that it ain't gonna rain and it's the first moisture room get up

in that area. You know, Fifteen, sixteen is Um snow, and so you know, you don't know how much take into that, but you sure want to listen to these wise old farmers. You know, YEP, Yep, they've been there, hadn't they? They they're they're all the all year long. They kind of know what's going on in those areas. You know, typically the farmers are good people for that kind of thing. Did Uh now when you, when you

guys were able to shoot this deer? Was that? was that based off of a uh, you know, a changing weather pattern? No, it really was, and we just we knew what the weather was gonna be. I mean a lot of times when we're afterving and Biggins, we we see that weather coming up and we leave alone, even alone, and we don't hunt, hunt, you know. But I just had a feeling that this deer was gonna come to water. We had a big water tank out and we had I hadn't checked his cameron about three weeks and but

last time I checked it. We we knew that he was there a bunch and we knew that he was laying down somewhere under grass there. And Uh, it was a great access with a good wind. I mean that was the key to this place, is is that? And then could just slip in and getting the tree staying there and that's what happened. They just we just had a hunch and and hunting him again. You know, when he hunt over bait or something like that, a lot

of times you put pressure on him real quick. But when you're when you're hunting back and you ain't gotta worry about coming into Bait in the morning and that kind of stuff, and you're just going to get the tree and that know that he probably won't be there he's out on Halfi field for a while, you can get by with some stuff. And that was just what we were hoping and that's what happened, man. So going forward for the next week, what are you protecting buck

movement being like on a scale from one to ten? Well, I'm hoping right now bucks are real or staying real close. You either got a big buck or you don't. You know, you ain't getting a whole lot of new stuff showing up yet. So I'm hoping that that'll start. You know,

we'll start kind of gathering some new bucks. But again, with the weather, Um, you know, we're gonna sit here on her thumbs a little bit at the House and watch this weather and and you know that would I if I was telling anyone if they had a big buck, you know, be careful, you don't leave him alone and let him feel comfortable and tell us time to go kill him. And that's that's what we're fiction to do.

We're not going to get ahead of herself here and see if this weather will come and take shape force and maybe get a you know, a twenty degree drop somewhere, and then we'll pounce. That's great, man. That's good advice. Jeff. What's the best way for people to connect with you? If they want to see what's going on? Check out that big yeah, man, we have we've ramped up our youtube. I'd love to tell everybody about our youtube. I mean

we've just started our youtube last year. You know, I still have been done tell this for years, but our Youtube, Bill we we you know, cocaine and heads that up as a great editor and these acts of the guys over my shoulder night e. A the time. so He's running that. We're putting some good stuff out live. This hunt will be out in just a few days. Um, that we just talked about on it. You know, obviously you come find me and Buck pincher's on instagram and

facebook and all that stuff. And we'd love to hear from anyone. Awesome, man. Well, thanks for hopping on the phone and giving us some advice there, and I'm sure we'll talk to you some other time this year. Well, Try Outer Casey, I'm sure if I appreciate you guys and even thinking about me, and just know that I'm here at any time, you aren't gonna Talk. We have got grant forney with the everyday outdoorsman. Grant has been hunting in Maryland, way up there in the northeast. Grant,

how are you doing, man? Pretty good. It's, uh, my favorite time of the year, hunting season this year, so I'm having fun getting my season started here. How about you guys? We're doing good. We've been doing other things than white tell lately. We've been doing elk and mule hear and stuff, but got white telling the brain right now, Dude. And you have already done the UN thing do well, you've put a nice Maryland buck down and it ain't even October yet. Man. How did that go? Yeah, it

was honestly an awesome hunt. I I couldn't believe it either, to to put a buck down that early. This is the earliest in the year that I've ever been fortunate enough to take a book. So Um, yeah, it was a really good, uh, really good early season hunt. Very thankful to to kill a pretty good buck this early in the season on public there in Maryland. Oh Dude, that's awesome. I don't even realize I was on public grounds. So this earlier in the year, do you see a

lot of hunter pressure there on public grounds? Yeah, yeah, there's a pretty good amount of pressure, uh, on the pieces of public that I hunt, especially opening weekend the first two days. The first day of the season was last Friday, so lots of guys in the woods Friday and Saturday. So usually my strategy for that is, number one, to try to get away from guys and number two, to really try to be as close to betting areas

as I can be. H and that's kind of how that's kind of how my hunt was on Saturday morning. It was just a pretty classic example, I would say, of a buck coming back off of food, heading back to the betting area and uh, I was able to catch him, you know, on his way back to bed. Uh. The other thing I had going for me was just a little bit of a cooler morning. It wasn't super cold.

I wouldn't really necessarily call it a cold front, but that early in the year, if you can just get like a morning that's just cool enough, especially because of how hot of a summer we've had. Um, you know the deer, the deer gonna be on the feet and uh, that's what I had going for me Saturday morning. So I got lucky and it worked out for me. Yeah, that's that's dude. You put the pieces together and that

is awesome. I know that some of the other guys we've talked to see you to be saying that weather, it has played a huge part of what they're doing. Do you foresee that whether being an issue like throughout the season here? Is that something that's happening to you up there in the northeast? Yeah, yeah, for sure it's. Um, it's such a huge part of of the deer movement here, as you know, I did, as I'm sure everywhere. But yeah,

it's a huge factor, I think. Um, you know here in the early season, uh, the temperature is just it's such a big deal. Of course, for me during Maryland, the hunting pressure is also a big deal, but I'm looking to get out on those days where the temperature is uh is lower, you know, relative to uh the days before or the days after it. This time of year, that's really what I'm looking for. You know, I might get a day or two of the week to hunt and I'm gonna pick the day or two where the

temperature is is really looking the lowest. Pretty much the strategy. So are there any like unique challenges or tactics that you have for access during the early season that you may not use as much during, you know, the Rut or colder months? Yeah, I mean, nothing really too specific. I would just say in general, like I'm very, very much in tune and very cautious about my access this time of year compared to what it would be during

the Rut. Uh, in the Rut, you know I'm really not always careful, because you can just get away with a lot more, I would say, but this time of year, I mean like slipping in, slipping in there for a morning hunt. Really my strategy for access. It's just to try to to try to stay off of food on my way in and then, even more specifically, not do my best to not put my grounds in uh, on the side of the tree where the deer are going to be coming in from. Yeah, is that something that

you do? Is the ground set thing something you think about much, or is that like a because you're sweating this time of year going in? You're really really worried about it? Yeah, yeah, for sure. This time of year, even more worried about that. With H with the ground sent Um, I really yeah, because of like long walks in the heat, I'm sweating a lot. Uh, I'm really not doing a lot for sent control for this style

of hunting this time of year. So, uh, you know, I'm really paying attention to win direction on my access and then and then, like we said, where I'm putting my grounds and all my way into the tree. Yeah, man, that totally makes sense. Whenever it's so hot, ground or sink control kind of can be a moot point at that at that point. So, Um, you were talking about food sources quite a bit here. You're referring to agricultural food sources or natural food sources. UH, some of both,

mostly agriculture. Uh. There's some skinning corn that butts up to some of the public I hunt right now. That you're hitting pretty good. And then, Um, there also is, yeah, there also is some natural with the horns and crowds right now. So, Um, the year that I killed on Saturday, where he came from. He was probably actually coming off the Bait Worns on his way back to bed. So Um, you know, definitely some things to think about this time

of year. Yeah, man, that's awesome. So going forward, as we look towards like the next week of hunting, you know is uh, kind of the years starts to push on and we swing from kind of the warmer temperatures into the fall. What do you expect the buck movement to be over the next week? I would say over the next week it's gonna be. It's gonna be okay.

I would say, probably not as good as last week because of, in my case, the Hind pressure that it started to take effect on them, that opening weekend pressure, but it should be. It should be okay. I think if we can uh, you know, it got some cooler evenings, which looks like we have some okay temperatures coming up, it should be uh, it should be decent. You guys want me to to yea, yeah, the ten. Yeah, so if you were to, let me just say the question, if you were to rate it on a scale of

one to ten. Looking forward. What you think that would be? I would say I'll give it a six here for this upcoming week versus maybe an eight last week got you. So a little lower, but still definitely optimistic looking forward. Uh, maybe with, you know, not quite as much pressure in the woods because people are just not want to get

out there and hunt in the heat, I would imagine. Right. Yeah, I would say, you know, the later part of the week will be better as the hunting pressure starts to tie off, but right here, early in the week, it might be a little tougher because of the heavy hunting pressure that we've seen here opening weeks. But I would say optimistic towards the end of next week with the hunting pressure starting to die down a little bit and

slightly cooler attempts coming in. Cool, cool man. So right now you were actually headed to go hunt some more. You're in a different state and we want to wish you the best hunt of your eason right now. I really appreciate you hopping on here to to talk and kind of hope a little bit before you hit out to the woods. If people want to see more of what you got going on, what should they check out? They can check out the everyday outdoorsman on Youtube, instagram

and facebook. Awesome Grant. Thanks. Hey, thanks a lot, guys. To really appreciate it. Guys, is sounding like a great week to get out in the woods and chase white tails, if you have a season open, if you don't, or if you do, it doesn't matter. Uh, and you're just hope about some hunting. Guess what? There is a new video on the element Youtube Channel. Our Buddy Tyler Jones went to Colorado and shot a great, great buck up

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