¶ The Silverback Showdown Question
Welcome , welcome back to who Will Survive . It's a new segment . That's pretty good who will survive 100 men or one silverback gorilla .
Okay .
Will you ?
survive . I asked ChatGPT could 100 men beat a silverback gorilla ? It says no . 100 unarmed men would almost certainly not beat a silverback gorilla in a fair fight , especially in an open environment . Here's why Strength A silverback is four to nine times greater than a trained human athlete . It can lift over 1,800 pounds and has a bite force of over 1,300 PSI .
Durability .
Hang on . Let me finish the answer Durability . Gorillas have thick muscles , dense bones and an insane pain threshold . Blunt force doesn't phase them like it would a human Speed and aggression . It can charge at 20 to 25 miles per hour , tear limbs and climb with ease . It fights to kill , not just to subdue and tactics . A hundred men can't all attack at once .
In a tight space they're bottlenecked , and in an open space they scatter or get picked off , unless the men are trained , armed or tactically coordinated like a military unit , and even then it's risky . The gorilla's raw physical superiority means it would likely tear through the crowd until it's overwhelmed by sheer exhaustion or injury , if at all .
So Is that the end ?
That's the end .
Okay , tj , do you want to go first ?
Yes . What would we like to clarify ? Does the gorilla have infinite stamina ? No , have you seen gorillas fight ? It says it only lasts for like a minute maybe , okay .
So let's ask yeah , would . Would the gorilla's low endurance ?
Well , why don't we confirm that ? First Ask how long could a gorilla fight with sustained
¶ Gorilla's Combat Endurance Limits
strength . Is that a good question , TJ ? I think so . How long could a gorilla fight with sustained strength ?
With sustained strength . Okay , sure Chow . Gpt says A silverback gorilla can fight with sustained explosive strength for about one to two minutes , maybe slightly longer if it's highly agitated or defending its troop . That might not sound long , but during that time it could easily maim or kill multiple opponents . Here's the breakdown .
Muscle type gorillas have a lot of fast twitch muscle fibers . Great for bursts of power , not endurance . Cardiovascular limitations . Like most great apes , gorillas are not built for long chases or prolonged combat . They tire quickly after intense effort . Behaviorally , in the wild gorilla fights rarely last more than a few seconds to a minute .
They usually end in bluff charges or quick , brutal exchanges . That said , even tired quote , a gorilla is still stronger than any human and can lash out if cornered or provoked .
So there's something that we need to clarify . With chat GPT , I don't think it understands that we're talking about 100 men at the same time , not one after the other after the other .
Yes , but it said in an earlier answer . It said 100 men can't all attack at once . In a tight space they bottleneck , and in an open space they scatter or get picked off . Reminder that it can charge 20 to 25 miles an hour real quick , right . So it can charge through eight men at one time with little exhaustion there and that's just running .
That's not even doing anything which is why I said it would easily start decimating in the first minute to two minutes . It would decimate that hundred . It would drop down to 90 . We could drop down to 80 , no problem . However , after that period , once it charges in and men flank it , now how could that gorilla continue to fight ?
we ask chat gtp this how many men would it take to hold down a gorilla's ? And what I'm saying no , no , no , no , no no .
What I want to ask is I want to ask a continuation of its previous answer . So would your answer be different if 20 men flanked the gorilla from behind as it was attacking to hold it down ? I don't .
Okay , just ask it . I think a better question . No , just ask it my question . No , how many men would it take You're fucking up the To hold down a gorilla's arm ?
No , While it's attacking , see , because we already established that it's a minute to two minutes . It's exhausting .
This is how we find out how many men would it take to hold down a gorilla's arm .
But we're not talking about . While it's fresh we're talking about , it's already begun its attack . It decimates 20 men , no problem , right , do you think it ?
would kill in two minutes . We could say 30 dudes .
So I'm asking ChatGPT how many men do you think it would kill in two minutes , in two minutes of all
¶ Calculating Casualties and Survival Odds
outrage ? A silverback gorilla could likely severely injure or kill 15 to 30 unarmed men maybe more 30 men . Depending on the environment and how the men approach .
Okay , so you have 70 men taking on an exhausted gorilla .
Here's how the estimate breaks down One hit potential A gorilla could knock a man out or kill him with a single punch , bite or throw . Limbs could be broken or skulls fractured . Instantly Attack speed Conservatively if it lands a devastating hit every 3 to five seconds . That's 12 to 14 men every 12 to 40 men every two minutes .
Uh , area control in a tight group it could grab , toss , bite and stomp rapidly if they swarm him poorly . Area control in a tight group it could grab , toss , bite and stop , stomp rapidly . If they swarm him poorly , he could take out more before tiring Caveat .
If the men coordinate , sacrifice some to distract and use improvised tools and use improvised tools , the number goes down . But if they panic or charge in waves , the gorilla will absolutely paint the arena red .
Okay , but you didn't ask the question that I wanted to ask what did you want to ask ? I want to ask what are the chances ? How likely would the gorilla's victory be if 20 men flanked behind it to hold it down after it's already exhausted , after it killed the first 30 ?
How likely would the gorilla's victory be if 20 men flanked it from behind ?
And held it down .
After Whilst tired From behind and held it down whilst being exhausted . Sure Okay , From killing the first 30 men . No 100 gorillas versus 20 men . If 20 men flanked and swarmed a silverback gorilla from behind after it had already killed 30 men and was physically exhausted , its chances of victory drop . But it's still not guaranteed the men win .
Here's the breakdown Factors favoring the men Fatigue After two minutes of berserk fighting . The gorilla would be significantly winded . Its burst of power would slow and reaction time might drop . Surprise flank A winded Its burst of power would slow and reaction time might drop . Surprise flank .
A coordinated attack from behind exploits its blind spot and reduces its ability to defend effectively . Weight and numbers 20 adult men average 150 to 200 pounds . Each Adds up to 3,000 to 4,000 pounds . That could be enough to pin the gorilla temporarily . But problems arise . That's in bold Holding . It is another story .
Holding down a 400 to 500 pound beast with the strength of eight nfl linemen isn't easy . It can still twist , bite and throw bodies . Injuries pile up , even tired . It could snap limbs and crush wind pipes . Of those on top , fear factor there are unarmed , untrained men . Panic and hesitation can turn a coordinated pin into a bloodbath .
The verdict chances of gorilla victory 30 to 50% . No , that's higher than I thought . If even a few men slip or lose grip , it could break free and resume carnage . Chances of human victory 50 to 70% , but at severe cost multiple deaths and injuries , even in success .
That's interesting . That's higher than I would have thought . My next question would be if the men are capable of surviving after seven minutes of sustained grappling .
You gotta remember well , I think the better question is what would men survive for seven minutes ? Or does it even think that men could survive for seven minutes ?
well we've . I think at this point we've gotten well past . We were at a minute well , it's already wiped .
30 are wiped in the first two minutes , probably injured because they were the ones pinning , trying and what , what I , what I ?
was actually what I was hoping to accomplish , in that we're saying pinning , but what I was hoping to accomplish is grabbing its arms and holding it , because if it's you or I tj on the front , what are you gonna go for on that gorilla ? Nuts or that's exactly right . Nuts , throat , eyes . You're not going for heavily guarded areas .
You're not going to jump on its arms and flail you're . You're going for its wind pipe , you're going for its nuts . You're going for its , its soft tissue femoral artery .
I need to survive . I'm grabbing the arms off the ground from the 30 men and I'm just shoving it down his throat .
Just chuck it . I asked how many men would it take to hold down an exhausted gorilla ? It said to physically hold down an exhausted gorilla silverback gorilla you'd likely need at least 20 to 30 strong , coordinated adult men , and even then it's a high-risk struggle .
Here's why Gorilla specs , even exhausted , weigh 400 to 500 pounds of solid muscle , can still bench the equivalent of 1,800 pounds . Even fatigued , its muscles are denser and more explosive than a human's . A tired gorilla is still stronger than 99% of men's flesh .
He is glazing this fucking gorilla .
It really is , because it's like we're we're not talking about one man at a time and it keeps putting it .
Human effort needed
¶ Human Strategy Against Primal Strength
. It is not doing that . Human effort needed . Four to six to pin limbs , two plus per limb , ideally . Now here's what I want to consider Two plus per , I said 20 . Four to six to pin limbs here's , and that's just each limb . Here's my thought . Where are those men standing ?
Behind it . Behind it , you're bringing its arms down on top of you .
Two to four , to control the head and torso , minimizing bites and thrashing .
Right , we have 70 .
Five to 10 more to back up when the first group gets injured or overpowered . That's assuming these are fit , coordinated , unarmed men with no restraints or tools . Realistically , if they're not trained and don't act in sync , even 30 might fail . If they use tools , nets , ropes , shields , the number drops .
If the gorilla has zero fight left and is just struggling reflexively , maybe 12 to 15 strong men could restrain it safely mean we're talking about 70 but so here's my question yes , 70 men . If you just imagine 70 against one , if you just imagine as numbers , sure think realistically . Where are these men standing ? How are they holding it down ?
How are 70 men ?
that's a lot of people no , I'm not talking about 70 men holding it down I said 20 men , that's five per limb okay , hold on and a silverback gorilla is freaking huge let's see how big a silverback gorilla arm is oh it says , want a visual diagram or tier list of human versus visual diagram you can't get that many people in that small an area .
We're not talking about necessarily a small area no , but that's what I imagined we said , if they walked into , if the gorilla came into a village ?
no , but how long is the silverback ? And then , to finish it , on google it says gorilla wiener what kind of stuff do you look up ? No , it just like filled it in . This is like a common thing you're you ready you're ready , you're ready , you ready , yeah , I . I need your guys's guesses . How long is the silverback wiener ?
oh , oh . How long is the oscar meyer ?
I'm gonna say very hopeful
¶ Surprising Gorilla Facts Revealed
12 eric it's a it's a 12 incher man , I feel like that shit can get at least to like 18 inches . All right , you ready yeah do you see buffy's good ?
news we're competing with gorillas . They only got a 1.1 . What the fuck ? You are lying A around three centimeters .
What the hell they have the smallest phallus of all apes , bitch . How do they make babies ?
You know what I'm going to start saying . I'm going to start saying I'm hung like a silverback gorilla and see who knows .
That's pretty good .
All right .
I will admit , men have a better chance than I thought they did . But I think if you add I don't know I think if you watch 30 men be decimated in less than two minutes .
But you're to talk You're not talking about . This is a run and get away type of situation . What ? Either you or the gorilla are going down 100 men or it's going to get through the 100 men and take out all of your women and children . You are all that stands in the way .
I think you overestimate me .
You are your family's survival .
I think you overestimate me . You are your family's survival .
I think you overestimate me . No , not me . I'll gladly go . My problem is is I would probably be the first wave .
Yeah , but we're not talking about one man , we're talking about 100 men .
I'm saying I would probably be the first wave .
Yeah , I don't know If we're talking completely bloodlusted dudes .
Wait a minute , buffy Buffy . What dudes ? Wait a minute , buffy buffy . What are you talking about ? You talking about my uh , hung like a silverback gorilla comment ? Or are you talking about the uh , the way that most men will stand and guard their family from a silverback gorilla ? I need to know . She said same way most men do . That could go either way .
Either she heard my comment on standing in the way of my family protecting them from the gorilla , or I'm hung like a silverback gorilla . I got to add something to the side of my life .
I got to add a photo .
She was talking about the three centimeter . That's comedy , buffy . Thank you and welcome back . Love to see you , love to see the regulars .
I asked Chachi Petit so re-evaluate what are the odds that men win . It gives a couple of things , but final verdict If the men are strong , brave and act in perfect unison , they'll likely win , but at the cost of serious injuries and possibly a few deaths if they fumble . The gorilla makes a terrifying comeback , wow .
I mean it's not as cut and dry .
I think in a real world situation , men lose Without tools , If tools are added , which is what
¶ Final Verdict and Real-World Scenarios
mankind is known for . If tools are added , we win 100% of the time .
But I'm with TJ . The second arms or legs are on the floor .
I don't think people are going to have that same . I would I don't know , I think .
You got two out of three in this Discord who would do the same exact thing . Tj you would . You say you would Panic chain reaction .
This is odds of the gorilla .
Screams , blood and fear could disrupt the group's hold , especially if bites or limbs break . If I'm standing , if I'm standing in the way of my wife and my two babies getting mauled by a silverback gorilla , I'm not just saying that I would grab limbs off the ground . I'm telling you I would . I would bite . It's three centimeters off , with no shame .
Remember the gorilla will use to the tools also , it would , it would I think odds are a hundred men and this is talking about a hundred strong , brave , imperfect unison men could win , and that's not even a hundred percent what are you doing , tj , look at the line .
What did you do ?
What did you do ? Oh my , god Alright . This is my least favorite .
That didn't take much neck rig to cover it up . Oh , my goodness gracious , the duck in the house . Thank you , you .