"WHAT'S IN THE BOX?" w/ Jerry Trainor, Rob Benedict and Bach Historian Lori

This Rose? My name is Art Marine, coming to you back in my boogie garage. I didn't have time to get all dressed up, but I did put on lipstick for the occasion, and that's the best I could you today. Because it's early, I didn't get my face on. Okay, speaking of putting a face on a face, I have questions about Joe. Joe, I have questions about face on the face. But before that, I want to just first

of all, think my birthdays next week. I asked for you guys to like the podcast on iTunes, and you delivered. We'll get to that at the end, but I just want to thank you, like legitimately, we got more likes in the last week, got more stars the last week you did it. You guys are they're so they were just like it was like a bucket of stars. So thank you, keep going, keep going. We want to give Joe Rogan a run first money, because we're just like

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very current references, current references. And I just say I went back and I listened to the episode Neu and Kyle did after someone brought it up in a review or an email where we are pretending to be radio DJ's. Yeah, I mean that was that was good. That was the episode when they were doing that weird thing with the guy with the ghost. Right, it was like the on stage where you saw like body parts and then it was like a guy where we saw like a skeleton walking.

But it was like a police officer who leg had been a right, wasn't that that episode? Yeah? It was. It was the proposal, That's what that's. Yeah, the proposal when they had like like like they were amibus anyway, you know, for five dollars a month, you get two episodes for ten dollars and you have access to every single season we've done and we if you think we do a lot here, just become a patron of Patreon. All right, that's enough of my heavy peddling. Let's get

to heavy petting. Well, see, I'm going to start in an order because I feel like there's a man that's not quite awake yet, and there's a man. He put on a Rockers cap and he's wearing a cowl neck cardigan, and I know he's happy to be here because he actually woke up to do this this early. But I know that like his caffeine hasn't kicked in yet. And I'm pretty sure will you accept this, Rose listeners, He's

gonna guard and protect your heart. Ladies and gentlemen. You know him from I Carley, you know him from Drake and Josh. You definitely do not know him from our CMT show, still the King. You know him as Okay, don't tell Debbie Ryan and don't tell Beverly Gangelo. But I'm going to say the rookie of the Year that has taken the most seriously of any rookie that has ever been a rookie Rookie of the Year, Jerry Trainer. What is mom? Give me some banana breadmother? Is it

too early for you? Jerry? Yes, Jerry, we were talking before the podcast and I just casually said that I had ruined you and you were starting to say and I told you to save it for the pod that two people asked you yesterday, when did they tell the listeners, Well, so I'm on a zoom hang out that watches The Bachelorette and listen to your heart and all of this stuff. And they asked, They're like, are you so you just doing this because arn't ascue on the podcast? And I'm like, no,

I genuinely look forward. It's one of the best parts of my week. That's how I felt. I Lorie tried to get me to watch it for years and I what did I say? Well, by the way, speaking of so this is technically Laurie's fault because it's Lorie through you to me. Yes, so here the thing are you going to guard to protect her heart? Because, um, this is I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say your sister from another mr. Like you guys are soulmates, maybe separated at birth.

Like there's a real kinship friendship. There's a real solid friendship that's happened. Um during the one Pablo they rob they both watched the entire one Pobulo season with us during the pandemic. Ladies and gentlemen, you know her as our the ken Burns of the Bachelor, the Bachelor historian. And I'm gonna say, um, uh, Jerry's friendly love and rival our friend Lorie. Hi, Oh my god, Now do you blame yourself forgetting Jerry involved in this? Um? Yes,

I'm solely responsible for everyone here. I will I will take that on um you know, I'll take it on my shoulders or Ed's dislocated olders. But Lori, my friend is Navy. We're both with charleneking you who so much she your baby? Um also with us is can I just say? Will he ever fin love? He was that Short of the Year, Bachelor of the Year, Bachelor of the Year twenty nineteen. Is he going to close out with with the proposal with the corpse of Neil Lane

coming to his you? Uh, you know him from Supernatural? Excuse me, you know him from Bosh. You're gonna know him from some cool upcoming Netflix show. Excuse me with Lisa Coudreau. Excuse me, we love him, you love him? Mr Rob better Deck, thank you so much. You know I have I have to just a teenage children. Um, Hi, Rob Benedicta, once divorced, two grown children, stroke survivor, And I'm just I'm happy to be here. And uh and and and they they give me the same thing. They

don't understand why I watched this. They're like, is it because you have to do this podcast? What is it you have to do this podcast? Right? And it's actually because your father wants to do this. This is what he wants in his life. How old are your children? H sixteen and thirteen? And they don't get it. I want you to. I want Rob to be up to date. Um, I'm sure you don't remember every episode in the Bachelor canon.

Also with us of course, Dr Tanna Banana and Katie Levine excuse me and Dr Banana actually was my doctor at three in the morning the other night and sent me to web md and I got to talk to a doctor right online. Guys, you don't need to leave your house. It was good r X. This is not an ad but good r X does email in. You're like, I don't feel well. I had a prescription in my hand within forty minutes. Are you kidding me? Okay, so I knew that we're talking about that after I did

know that. I did know that doctor Banana. I knew that Anna was both my financial advisor, my spiritual advisor, and I call her my doctor. And it turned out my instinct was right that she is my doctor Banana. How do you feel about that, Tanna? Dr Banana? Um, you know, I have mixed feelings. I don't want anyone to actually think I'm a doctor. Please don't ask you for any medical advice. So, well, it's too late, it's too late. Yeah. Well, you know I have a degree

in um being Arden's doctor, and that's it. You have a degree in being awesome. Well, here's what not Rob. I'm gonna say you probably don't have cataloged in your brain. Every single episode that ever aired of the Bachelor. This was an episode that we watched of Juan Pablo season and there was a there was a contestant named I don't remember, but he wanted to guard and he he got it to a garden. Protect your heart, I would

God to protect your heart. And then he he did an acapella song and this is it and to believe me, chose me forever bait. That was That was the goat episode of Alley's season, because wasn't he didn't he get that tattoo? And then he got left on a two on one day. He got left as a hellicopter flew off. That's write no captain mountain, which god, I really as somebody tweeted at us, why do I missed a real two on one where you are literally a ba undined and like a crag, like you're a left defense for

yourselves like vultures and waltz um. So at some point, what's I don't I don't remember what I had for breakfast this morning, and that episode I remember burned into my brain. Well, Mr Robbie, better than you of your priorities in order your kids think that you're crazy, but I know you're not a hoarder and if you think it's lame and weird that you want to watch the Bachelor head, I just want to say, say, ain't nothing yet,

thank you so much. Get ready. Everybody's gonna be singing at some point, and you know what, if you need to, but I'll let it be self determined when you need to give your opinion in song. Okay, that's the tune and just take it all right, here we go, we're up top. Tasha isn't a sexy dress and she's putting out pastries and she needs advice. She comes to her best friend, Jojo, who she's probably never met. Um who shows up first of all. Joso's JoJo's adorable. Jojo is

a beautiful woman. I love Jojo. I loved Jojo as a bachelorette. I'm not saying she has a face on a face. I'm not saying there's a slightly new face. I'm here to open the discussion for the possibility of a face on the face. Aaron fully texted me at five in the morning saying, that's a face on a face? What do we think? I'm gonna start with Tanna because she had thoughts about this last night. Tanna doctor, Yeah, and she's a doctor. Is that a face on the face.

There's definitely lips. I feel like there might be a chin implant situation. What's happening? Face on a face? Um? Okay, so we all know we've seen Joe Joe's mom who is a Persian, so JoJo's half Persian. Having facial work done is very common in Persian families. There's nothing. They don't see it as anything like weird. It's you know, I was offered a nose job very young. My dad was like, just let me know when you on it,

and I was like, I don't know about that. And my dad literally talks about getting a facelift almost every single day. He should just go get one. Well, we're trying to convince him not to right now. Okay, sorry, It's very normal to have just a little bit of work done, maybe a little lift there. Or I'm not mad at it, by the way, here you know, so I'm not mad at it. I will I'm fully intend to put a whole new face on my face next week on my birthday. I'm gonna put your face on

my face. You dare, Jerry, I'm putting Tanni's face on my face. Jerry, Now, were you aware of when Jojo looked before and looked like before? And did you think she had a face on a face? Nope, I was I was not even aware that Jojo had walked into the liquinta sweet because of Tassia's dress. My god, tell me how she has breakfast with the gold rivets like holding the boobs up. I was just like, man, she

is I'm sorry, rock him does steal from Wolverine. She is a small she's such a croissans and bagels in this like gorgeous skin tight dress. I'm like, I can't. Okay, I'm gonna tell this to Laurie. Laurie and Jerry, you're I know your number one was Charlene. Charlene or Taisha Laurie. Oh, that's a tough one. That is tough or can I ask yes? Please let me just put it to you this way. Personality Charlene or Taisha? Oh Charlene. Interesting? Yeah?

Well you know, I mean what was interesting is well, first of all, Taisha woke up in Dale and Claire's room with their stained sheets and brought out a plate of gluten, which you know she's not going to eat. But what was interesting to me about Jojo is she actually looked. I know nothing about whether it's a face on a face. As the owner of a Michael Stipe crease myself, Um, I actually would be looking like Jojo as she walked into that sweet because she was so

hot and red and sweaty. That's how I would be. And it's so hot there, Robbie b Yeah, I'm just looking up Charlene. Okay, Charlene was the opera singer. Yeah she was. Charlie Charlotte. Okay, Okay, we're gonna throw you in the fan club Jerry and Laurie. Charlene is their number one made Rob. Just send me your sizes, okay, only if it's Guildine extra extra large. That's what you're getting that that T shirt isn't that's Heather Gray with the orange fun That's what it's gonna be. Charlene or Tasia,

Uh Charlotte. I love Charlene and she was the opera singer. Um, yeah she was. But you know, look, I love Tasia like she's she's she's been the brightest thing so far. Oh my god, between this and below deck my Monday and Tuesday. But it's a great way to start every week right now, like it is a solid. I don't know what I would do if they hadn't figured out how to pandemic quarantine hairless people looking for love because I needed this Canna, Katie, do you dress like that

for breakfast every morning? I know, Katie, does I have need all the time, Like I never am not wearing a sparkly dress. You're wearing that same dress right now. I am, yes, that's wearing not pajamas. This is it's not there you go. Yes, I do like that. She had fresh pastries as if she's my god, I literally my friend. I was like, she doesn't need bread. It was it was like giant play of bacon and then pastry and then like some sort of weird fruit. I

couldn't or locks. I couldn't been out what I was eating anything. I want to say the really quick. I don't feel like Jojo has that much work done. Maybe just lips. Maybe the lips were a little especially like I watched them of Dancing with the Stars, and especially compared to Caitlin. Oh my gosh, Caitlin had a ton or yeah that's a shame too, because she was so weird. But said Jojo looked good, and I thought she looked like maybe like a little bit her cheek. Yeah, I

feel like the area. But I looked at just I sent a picture of her from when she was the bachelorette, and I need she didn't side by friend. I need to see last night. I need to see it side by side, trying to find Okay, So then we have so so tatious having a hard time. She has to figure out how to juggle all these guys. And then she's she's like, I have fear. And then JoJo's like, I've done it before, I got it, and then and then Chris Harrison announces she's one of the biggest success

stories in the history of the Bachelorette. Here's what you need to know, Jerry. She's still not married to the guy, so like they like it's it's it was very strange, Okay, Laurie, I see your finger up. Talk to me. Well, you know they were supposed to get married this year during the pandemic, but I think they they had to postpone it. Um. But you know, she feels so new. But I guess she is one of the success stories. And who would have thought that she would find her lasting romance with

Aaron Rodgers brother that wonkers to me. But just something I want to add really quickly that I thought was funny, you know, shout out to my my queer family, is when Joe Joe came in and she asked, Stacia, so, who are your tops right now? Really I really appreciated that. The same thing, who are the tops right now? I need to know what the tops are. I'm gonna ask Jerry, I'm gonna ask everybody right now, just who is your number one favorite right now? Everybody? What you mean contestants? Yea,

who do you like the most contestant? Wise? Who do you hope she ends up with. I'm still rooting for Brendan the Roofer. And by the way, I thought his name is Brandon and somebody tweeted at me is not Brandon, It's Brendan, And now I know, so I feel like you're crazy Aunt that got it wrong. I like Brendan the Roofer. That's who I'm rooting for. Who are you rooting for, Laurie? I think it's a time between Brendan,

who apparently goes by Brendo. Uh Ivan, I love Ivan too, Okay, Rob, who are you rooting for I think I'm rooting for Brendan, Okay, but for some reason, I feel like, well, we'll see what happens next week. But I feel like, uh, that Zach. I feel Zach's gonna go far. But I don't know about him there. He is kind of a Even after you saw the teaser for for next week, yeah, there's like a past there. That's something going on. Okay, that lie detector test teaser made me go, oh, there's a

lie detector test teaser. Yeah, for next week? He fail it. He said he cheated. Yeah, the insinuation is that he says he cheats. But I mean, if he tells the truth that he cheats, but Tatio says, that's not okay, that you've cheated. I mean, I would imagine he was like rolling on pills when he did it. Yeah, I had a theory of that that he he was. I think this is what happens. Obviously. I don't know that

he says he cheated. Remember, he says his wife left him because he was on a bunch of drugs and yeah, yeah, yeah, I was hanging out with sketchy people and he got arrested, right, So I think maybe he kind of didn't include the part that he cheated on her as well, probably selective. Yeah, and so he definitely said and it was not her fault. Yeah, okay, And and Tatia has been cheated on. She said that earlier that her ex husband there was unfaithful her husband.

It was okay, we'll get to that, because here we go. Joe does one of the biggest success stories in history. Chris Harrison's leaving to bring his son to Baylor on just real quick on that, Like, so Chris Harrison just bailing on his job, which isn't much anyway. Yeah. I mean, look, we were all actors. We've had to miss weddings, We've had to miss family things like yes, to bring up to college, you say goodbye before you leave, and we're

in COVID. No one's going to college. I know. I just think that I just think that maybe maybe this is maybe him kind of stepping away. He clearly took his kids the college. He posted about it on Instagram. I was really confused because he posted photos of his kid there with his fucking roommate in the dorms, and I was like, how are they there in person? It's Taylor. No it was Texas Christian University. Yeah that okay, okay, okay, Texas. Anyway, it just felt a little bit like, you know, she

did Jojo did great. I just felt like maybe she breathed new life into the host. There's a whole situation going on. I feel like I think Chris Harrison loves his paycheck. I mean, who wouldn't. Yeah, I have the best gig ever, I'm your face on my face to host that I like speaking in public. I'm gonna put Jerry's face on Rob's face, on Lori's face, and then I'm gonna put it on my face and then I'm gonna go I'm gonna I would now look like a weird Mount Rushmore walking around, Like it'll be like Dan

of TV hosting. I'll put Jojo on top so people think it's Jojo, but it'll be a full tur duck in situation of like just sort of like globs moving on turkey. So so the first one on one is with Zach and and he's like, oh, I'm nervous to tell her I've not lived a straight, narrow life. And then we saw by the way, there was an ad. There was a crazy ad for the Bachelor with the most insane seventies theme music. Did you guys notice that I recorded it? I was like, listen to this. This

is so bonkers this music. He say, we go back, go back to the beginning. We didn't hear. The best part is that drum intro. Okay, hold on, hold on, I'll excuse you, hold please. It sounds like Rick Astley, hold on, hold please. Yeah, it was really like I thought they were doing a bit music. It's so crazy. It's like it goes from re astly to like love boat disco dating game. It was on the ad was like do you need somebody who wants to date the

next Bachelor bachelorette? But it literally felt like they were doing a bit Tanna. I just want to say. My dad was like, your brother can do this show. He's very buff too, And I was like, that's not how it works. But my dad's well, I guess yes, he works out, but like my dad has no sense of the batchy just he's a bunch of buff dudes and goes like your brother would fit in perfectly. Oh my god, brother, my brother would never do. By the way, Jerry, don't

you wish we submitted you now? For Claire, because then you could be for Tasia. We offered to submit you. I'm still gonna stick with No. I'm being being stuck at the look because it looks like it's no fun. The dates aren't good. This is a sad okay, you know what. So I'm just gonna say this, and I don't want to be Debbie Downer. But you asked everybody who they think, who are you rooting for? I don't know who I'm rooting for because I don't love this

batchy guys. I don't think any of these dudes are are our husband material, and especially in not fro Tasia. I have more to say about that later on easy Date. But that's where I'm at. So you didn't want to hang out with these guys. It's basically what you're saying. It looks. It looks so even on Zach's date, he's in a tuxedo and he is sweating buckets so hot.

It's so hot, they're not going anywhere. The every date seems kind of weird and cringe e and just I don't know, and there it's not your jam uh, I mean that's the thing would not be jam Okay, So Zack there's a crazy ad. So Zach gets there. He gets a one on Mota shot which is a full day and they are shooting wedding photos and uh with the most amazing, insane, fantastic wedding photographer who I would much rather hang out with than any of the people

out like Kinta. He and Anna dr Banana. Tanna figured out that he was the exact same wedding photographer that shot with nick Ville. When he did that pool shooting Karin was like having her boobies held in the pool and it was the same thing, was like a bridal shoot. And um, his name is Franco LaCosta and she starts spinning out. She like freezes up fully is triggered. She has to put on a wedding dress. She's been married before. Uh. He put on a white tux. She came out, she

looked beautiful. He she was really freaking out. Frankle DaCosta wanted to put a veil on her and she was like, I don't want to aail. I don't want avail. It's too bridal. I don't want to fail. And then he's like, he was like, well you're getting a veil and jammed in on her head and then um, they did all these photo shoots. Let's talk about the actual photo shoot portion. Who wants to go first, Rob Benedict? Yeah, I mean he was. This photographer was amazing, uh like just straight

out of Project Runway and he but he was. But there's also something a little bit um, just like Quinta about the whole thing, Like I don't know if I put a Brian and groom on a trampoline, right, you know what I mean? That was just recipe for disaster. It just was not There was nothing what about what came out of this photo shoot? And she had to wear all of the dresses. It wasn't like a one and done. It's like we're gonna get every iteration of

this LORI. So you know, well, first of all, I don't know if your listeners care about this, but Zack looks so much like my dead dog Horatio, her Pekinese Chihuahua mix. It's actually quite distracting for me. I have to say, jawline Horatio. Actually I can vouch for that. Horatio has slept on my neck and Zach has the same under byte and faith his face. His Horatio spaces on Zack's face. I actually think maybe Zack might have to be my favorite because it could be Horatio reincarnated.

So anyway, I digress Um, well, you know, I you know, I know you all like to talk about the dresses. I didn't really I mean, of course, is gorgeous. I can't speak to that, but what I will say is that Zach needs a tailor, yes, like either a Matre d or David Byrne in um something you think, or Tom Hanks in the scene Tom han younger version in Big Big. I know that's my take. I have to say, like in my mind because it's also I think it's

probably for a tux rental company. And so I'm looking at it and I'm thinking, you're there, you're doing product placement, you're trying to sell your taxes. You you've already picked out who who's getting this date you. They should look like a million bucks. Because the actual jackets were really good looking like they were. It was a nice like they should have had the perfect fit for him. What did you think about this, Franko LaCosta talk to us and what did you think about the fit? Very dumpy,

very ill fitting. You're absolutely right that they should if they know who is going to wear it, tailor it to that person. It's kills. But also I'm going with rob it feels very liquent. If everything feels very Laquinta. It feels like they're just dragging out whatever in the recreational equipment warehouse, and it's just like you, just this will make a good date. Just put it in these outfits, dude. But it's also like July, it's a hundred and ninety

degrees wedding buckets. Yeah. I also don't understand the freaking out about the wedding dress, Like I it's not like he left her on the altar, like I mean, I got married, I was divorced. Like if you if you had me put on a tuxedo, I wouldn't be like God, the wedding and that they have to write they have to add some sort of emotional player on top of this boring date slim pick right. I was watching it

and I felt like, again, you're trapped. I mean, the the conceit of the show is it's an around the world and it's like Cinderella and there's helicopters and fireworks and like concerts, and I feel I was. I didn't mind it because I felt like they are doing the best that they care. I might also have my bar is so low for like current entertainment. It's so exciting to me that it's new and that I can watch

it that but no, it's not, it's not well. I just keep thinking of the writer's room with the producer's room, where they're going, Okay, this is what we got. We got one hotel. What are we gonna do? Can we bring in the Ferris wheel? Yeah, we can bring in Ferris wheel. We can do that. How about hunting for ghosts? There might have been let's say, there are you know what I mean? Dude, that was a fun one. I did like that one. Okay, So then she's freaking out.

He's in his big boy suit, fully in his big boy suit. They're freaking out and she who holds him And then we find out apparently everybody on the show has been married before Zach but he was like, oh yeah, I was merry before. She was like, oh wait, what, like everybody's been married before? And he said he I don't find him. He does look like Laurie's the underbright To me, She's like, I love saying that smile, and he's like Jerry. Our group thinks he looks like Giovanni

Rabisi mixed with Ryan Gosling, mix with her Ratio. I don't see Ryan Gosling. It is very rabis It is very Rabisi. Who's your group? We call him Giovanni Gosling. Wow. I feel that you're upgrading him. I feel like you're leveling up on that one. I feel see him through Tastia's eyes. Arden, who's your group? Who's in your group? Oh, Blaze, Marcus uh Tahiti, her boyfriend, Brent uh May and Jeff. He was really, you're really cool. Name friends, Blaze, all

your friends. We've got the Captain Blaze. Wait, what were the first three names? Terence Malick of him, Francis Ford Coppola, you know, just the usual gang. I love that. Okay, great? Um. So then she goes, um, she goes, you're getting all weird. You're getting sort of like Sean. And he goes and he leans in and he goes, let me, let me let you in on a secret. There's a breathtaking thing going on with you. And I thought, like, put it away, Dr Banana. How would you feel if Jerry lendin and

whispered that hot on your neck. It you're ready there, let me. I'm gonna let you in on a secret. There's a breathtaking thing going on with you. Do it. I'm gonna let you in on a little secret. There's a breath taking thing going on with you. How do you feel? How do you feel? Dr like, oh, sorry, jam actually with Turbo my best friend. And she goes, look, I don't know much about Zach. He's like, well, I grew up in an amazing home. I graduated college. This

is a hard story. I actually know somebody that something like this happened to um Uh. I wasn't feeling well. I went to the hospital. I had a giant brain tumor. I had to have surgery the next day, and then I got hooked on pain medication. I know, I don't know somebody that had the tumor, but I know somebody that had, like um, a debilitating pain situation and they got hooked on I mean, and it really started a

whole and it was yeah, it started a whole spiral. Laurie, you know this story was really touching, I'd say, with Zack, not surprising at all. I know, ardon you and I were talking about how you know he's such he's such an addict. He has such addict energy. An interesting tidbit about Zack that you may not know is then he didn't mention is he also uh pursued elective gallblad surgery in order to get the opioids afterwards. Oh boy, he

was that severe. So he was like, I'm willing to have parts of my body removed, just like, Oh, that's a poor guy. I mean, it breaks your heart when it's like this guy was doing his thing. He didn't ask for a brain tumor. I'm sure if somebody cuts the skull off of your head, you're in pain. So like, yeah, you're gonna want somebody. I mean, people would give me vikadins for getting wisdom teeth removed. I'm not good on pills, but like you can see how if he was something

that severe, of course you want to take it. And then the poor guy got hooked on it. It's terrible. So then he started doing a lot of drugs and it turns out it sounds like a lot. And then uh, he got married and then she did nothing wrong, and then he was drinking and doing tons of drugs. He was saying it was sketchy people. He got arrested, He had a d u I and his wife left. It was gnarly. He was in a bad way. It was

touch and go um. He wasn't sure he was going to make it until tomorrow, and he stole his dad's checks. He went down to the bank teller who called his dad and she was his angel, and she said, your son's here and it's not good, and he had a spiritual moment of clarity. He was in rehab for four and a half months. She said it's a wild ride. He said, it's the best ride and then he um. And then he has been on that board now fifteen years later. And she said, boy Zach really ticks all

the boxes. And I thought, does he? Uh, Jerry, what did you think when you heard that story? It's an awful story. It's it was weird. The reactions reaction was weird. It was the best time. I'd like. It was like, wait, are you make Are you joking? He's like, oh no, no, have you done drugs? They're great. He did seem psyched about it. Yeah, He's like, oh no, it was awesome, but yeah, I'm better now. But it was freaking rad didn't have a glint of it was the best rout

six months of my life. That's unders unsustainable, but a blast. My question is he seems to be Is he drinking they were sharing chimpain? I bet he was. I bet he was having like Martin Ellie's or something. So he's sober, right, I think he's got to be. He's got to be. I'm sure. I'm sure he just holds the glass and has like exactly, you don't tell that story and then crack open a white clown shutgun of the shower. Um. So then she goes, Zack, you're taking all the boxes.

He's ambitious, he's established, he's mature, he's got that smile or um. So then they go, I know he was like, She's like, I like to keep seeing that smile or collective to get it used to be lined up. So then they go, they go. I thought this was cool. They spent the money on the Ferris Wheel. I have to say I liked it. I liked the Ferris Wheel. Um. And then and then he said, who is going to tell me that I can't go on a TV show in the middle of a pandemic and find someone like

Tasia ride a Ferris wheel with a smoke show. My heart is racing a shortness of breath and then they made out on that Ferris way. They have chemistry. Dr Banana. I just want to point out he said a national pandemic and I was like, honey international he did the thing you're Giovanni for BC's uh and Giovanni Gosling And in one upset stay Stain Black. Sorry, Blaze, she called you Stain and that's sticking. Hey, listen, Blaze, I didn't get your name right. I mightna called you Stain and

it's gonna stick with you tonight. And if you want a party, you come to my bougie garage. And if you think I'm not going to cry, then it is a mirrage. Taking Jerry side note about Blaze. Early in the pandemic, he got a pocket knife because he thought he was going to be like a survivalist, because he thought everything was going to go to ship and we were on zooms late, and this is when everyone was

getting drunk on zooms real late. He would start like playing with the knife and like flipping it open and stuff. That's very Blaze. People just started all in the blade Miller. Yeah, so he's a blade blade blade all right. You don't want to mess you don't want Blade Miller to come out later, Blade Miller coming anywhere. What did you guys think of the Ferrest Mill chemistry ending up? Any final thoughts on Zach. That's the end of the date, Robbie b Yeah. I just again, I keep thinking of the

production crew just going like, hey, can we get one? Yeah, yeah, you can get one, and then then putting it together quick. And then at the end one that you saw that she was actually worried about screw's falling off. I coinly was too two. It sounded like a chunk like yeah, this probably wasn't even real, carn he's putting it together. Yeah. I don't blame her for being afraid of like the zipper that is you know. Yeah, yeah, Laurie, what did

you think? Well, you know, the one thing that I took away from from Mr Zach and Tasia is you know, of course she was like, I like the way he looks at me. It's so dense when no wonder He's like, he's drinking you in. You're his drug, right now, that's the thing he really Yeah exactly, so he really. You know, I thought his his story was um compelling. You know, I think that I really liked what he said about you know, who's to say that? I? You know, I'm

a miracle and this can happen. I actually kind of like that at all, like that too. But I I wonder whether he actually asked her a question about herself. Wow, out, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. That's such a good question. I mean it's like that's a running thing in this episode especially, and maybe I have to I should save this for later, but this this episode felt very much

like we don't have much time left. I've got to take my moment and tell her what's traumatic about my life? Trama bond. It was all trauma bonding. We had. There was a trauma race, uh, Tanna, and I if your if your patron, we would recognize that one of the bachelorette New Zealand. She just grills people, right, Tanna, Like she just grill. It's like she's like feels like a lawyer. She lawyer, she's the take that back, she's the doctor.

She just grills people. Yeah, it's awkward. And and then you immediately you meet her mom and her mom is the exact same way, except ten times worse. Yeah, and you're like, oh that tracks um okay. So that next up we have a group date and the guys think again it's nude modeling. Blake is not excited because it's his third time that he's naked. This is not a journey that he wants that he is down for today. But we find out this episode he's super horny, super horny.

Didn't know that, Like, he just seems like the nice Canadian and now we find out he is like boner fever that he talks about weens all day long, like and they edited it in like yeah, you know, like dick happy Blake, Like that's just Blake. He just loves talking about the day. Um. So then Bennett steals Noah's seat. Bennett is a clearly like vying for screen time. He's decided to be the villain. I feel sorry for Noah.

Actually he was like kind of not doing anything, but he actually gives up the seat like an idiot, and he lets Bennett take it. And then they're blindfolded and Bennett went in for a kiss, which I found so grody Robby. Robby be not okay with that. It's just not okay with that. It just didn't feel right, didn't feel uh consenting. He took the opportunity to like to cop a field because she couldn't see him coming, Like it was so Laurie, what did you think? Then? It

is super gross? I thought that was really creepy. If if I had a Bandanna ha or blindfold on and then freaking Khaki Shorts comes around to stick one on me, I would not be not be excited. I'm so sorry to tell you I got you the wrong holiday present. That just saying watch your back with your sleep mask. You know, then it is. I think I liked him at some point I did too. I liked him. I

liked him like the first two episodes. Yeah, but then there's been a transition where I've realized he's actually fifty five and stars in his local production of you know, Greenwich, Connecticut's Great Gatsby or something. Yeah, I'm not into him. He's he's really um, he's super concending. So he's awful. Yeah, he's an arrogant sociopath. You know, he's like he's he's Mark Zuckerberg. He has no ability to judge um human behavior. It's just like the whole, the whole four Well, we

can save that for later. But he's just like a robot, like you, oh, human made joke, proper responses. It's just like he doesn't understand doesn't understand how humans are. And that's the second that kiss was the second time he's planted one on her. But earlier it was kind of whimsical and now it's disgusting. And he goes fifty shades of clay. Yeah, you couldn't. It's such a dated joke, Like I just it was so gross, fifty shades of clay. All so that they get the clay out and Blake

immediately makes a dick. It just makes a giant dick. Didn't you would immediately make a dickaments I say, of course, I would immediately make a dick. But the shear fact that Blake is so horny and he can't stop talking about dick's, did we know that? I mean, you know what I was thinking is what if they actually re edited the episode and actually Ben took his clothes off first? Oh my god, like made a big dick. Dude. Okay,

so we'll get to Ben, which was incredible. So we started out with Bennett it's like, well this is gonna be Uh. They had to also do their self portrait, and it's like our New York home, Haptens home, our l A home. There might be a mountain of at an ocean home in a Paris home, but we'll start I with three homes from now. And then somebody says, how do you spell privileged? And then later he was like, I have not been privileged. And if somebody tweeted at us,

it's like, how do you spell privileged? You're right, you're a man. You went to Harvard. You can't spell Harvard, but you graduated from Harvard. You're talking about your three homes like like you're what do you mean you don't have any privilege? Wasn't either one that pulled up in a really nice car with a yes yes um. And even if he's not, even if he grew up in an in poverty, his behavior is so arrogant and so disgustingly, I don't even know what the word. He's just condescending.

There's no good work. Who goes this is my Hampton. I'm showing you our future, like this is our Hampton's home, York home, l A home. I didn't have time to get to the island home or whatever. He says, it's if I were hurt, I'd be like, you can go home now, yeah, yeah, pick one of those homes and

you can go to that now. Yeah. He's awful. So then she says, so then Brendan for this portrait, he had a frame and he was like, you know, and then he turned it sideways and he said, I want I wanted to make room for the love of my life. And I thought it was really sweet. And then Ben is freaking out. He's watching everybody go. He wants to

say the right thing. Blake talks about a turtle dove how he's, uh, he grew up in a failed household and the turtle Dugs are monogamous and he's gonna search far and wide for his mate um and the original family that he never had. Riley, his mom says, what keeps you going? He's like, it's my daughter. I want to sit down and enjoy quality time. And she said, what kid says that? He said, it's a kid who

hasn't had it before. And then Ben walks up with a big picture and colorful flowers all around his face, and then he panics he's like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I forgot something. And then he comes out in a robe and then he strips down buck naked, holding his deck and he's like, I'm gonna let my guard down and I'm offering and this is this is all for you. I'm gonna give you some everything physically and everything inside,

and he's spiritually, I'm giving it to you. I'm gonna give this physical body but also who I am inside. And she was like, that takes so much courage to be vulnerable, and she bursts into tears, runs into the other room. The lady that taught the like like self. You know, they did do drawings of the of the nude model so that the lady ran the art class runs after her and uh, and she's like, it's just kind of a lot. It's just overwhelming. It's so raw

and vulnerable. I feel like the luckiest girl in the world. And then she's like, I just can't choose. I'm gonna hang out with all of you. Ben's move Before we found out what was going on, it was so crazy, and the fact that I think she loved it, I think she loved it was so confusing to me. Robbie b It was weird. He he weirds me out. I did, like it's scared me when he left. I was like,

oh my god, what's he gonna come back? But he talks about PTSD and he's you know, he's serving the military, and uh, which God love him, you know, I respect, but I just I don't like worry sometimes that what what's gonna be. He desperately wants her to notice him, and that was a that was a desperate move and I didn't for in my book, like, I don't know that didn't I'm sure you know, you just got a hot body whatever, but it just that was too easy. That wasn't the thing. It scared me so much. And

she seemed that she responded to it. Laurie, Um, you know, I it seems like she was that she was really confused by it as well, because I was really confused by it and I didn't quite know what was going on. And she's got to be crying because she just didn't sleep a lot the night before. It's something else zero sense to me, and um, so you know, as I go to sleep, I listened to bachelor podcasts. It's the only thing that makes me fall asleep except for this one.

This one, thank you asleep, thank you. And I heard an interview with him and he said he was actually quite jealous, uh that he didn't get to go on the naked previous dates. The he wanted her to shore and wanted her to see him basketball in the pool. So, um, I just I frankly didn't get it. I didn't get this this whole thing. I mean, I thought it was nice that people shared. I was very confused. I was like, does Riley have a daughter? Does he not? Um? But yeah,

it's it's Uh. I was just left confused as well. It was an entire room of trauma bonding and like, let me share my wounds with you. Uh. Moment that that was the moment. I think her tears were honestly for most for the other guys, because if he came this like onslaught of here's how awful my childhood was.

And then and Ben is weird. Intensity is so weird, like Rob is saying, but like earlier on he was like, I really want the one on one and it's like He's like, but dude, you just had that late night, you went over to her place, you had strawberries, just had a one on one like and nobody even it was about that moment. Yes, yes, out in him for that moment and I and the whole like, I'm gonna I can't come up with a good way to express myself, so I'm just gonna strip. And it's vulnerable, I guess,

but really I'm just showing off my rock hard body. Yeah, Okay, we're gonna take a break and we'll be right back. But the bone zone. Let's get in the bone zone, guys, and we're back. We're talking about Ben showing off his rock hard body. When he came back in the room. I and when I realized what was happening, I started screaming and hiding my face and maybe a psanic. I couldn't. I couldn't handle it. I was like, oh good, oh good. I didn't like it, Like I didn't want it to

be happening. I didn't. I didn't like it. Did you in that moment, because I was doing the same thing. I was cringing and freaking out, like I didn't like it. It could have gone either way. Which way did you think she was going to react? I mean, I thought she would be a lady about it, because she's kind, but like I thought she would internally be like, oh, this dude's fucked up, like that's what I thought, which

she didn't see. She seemed to legitimately be so touched by it, which was just the fact that he was disappointed that he hadn't gotten to show her everything before. I mean, like, you're in La Quinta, it's a hundred and ninety degrees, there's pools everywhere. At some point she'll see at least in a swimming suit. Tanna. It's also weird at that day, cool whatever, art, that's wonderful. I love that they got to express themselves. Um, but I don't know. I don't know. I felt like you the

whole time. I was like, I don't understand. Okay, also being like, my whole body is yours. I can't give this to you physically, but my penis, which I'm very sculpting right now. I kept wondering. I was like, why did he have to tell her that was so scared, Like like there was a thing that he needed he was hiding his penis. But wait before we get to that. Furiously adding play to his somebody tweeted at us between the between last week's music date and this week's art class.

Somebody tweeted at us it is clear there's not an ounce of talent on the grounds of La Guita. Nobody could draw, and nobody could play an instrument, nobody could sing. Like there's no extra town. We've got Ivan, who's clearly really smart. We lost Joe the and enthusiologists, but this is not like a like an artistically gifted group of dudes,

Robbie bab No, not at all. And can we talk second for about the odd naked couple that they drew at the beginning of the end, like the woman who seemed kind of attractive and young guy who seemed like they pulled them off the freeway, just long gray hair. And by the way, that couple had to have quarantine for two weeks, Like you hope there are a couple

because I bet they were like some cheer. They found them in a wigwam like across from the lookinta and they're like, well they haven't been seeing anybody, just get them. What's the add Like, we're just looking for nudists, so we're looking for like you found them in the wigwam, you know, and they were protesting five g across to them. It feels Laurie, that feels real, that feels real, that feels real real, that feels real, Lauri, not real for you. So then she comes in. Do you know a nudist

couple like this? I cannot tell you how aware I am of nudist couple since then we have so, then we have UM. So she has it, so nobody's getting alone time, so Riley steals her immediately, doesn't really say that much. Brandon. She really Brent, Sorry, sorry, Nana is gonna say Brendan, Brendan. She really likes Brendan. They were

really cute together. She loved his pig. Jerry was like, I was gonna ask who to come up here, but then like it would be too much for you, click me up in here, so that we have UM Bennett, he feels robbed. He's piste off because the last Rose ceremony, Noah fucked it up and he didn't get enough time and um, and Ben pulls her aside and says, the life I've lived is different than you might assume. I

had an eating disorder for fifteen years. I was believing for ten years, and then um and then he when he was twenty two, he or something like, I wrote my handwritings terrible. But basically he's been I think, in recovery for that for like thirteen years. And if you recall, Peter Peter from Rachel's season also talked, I say good for him for like, for talking about it on the air.

It cannot be easy to be a straight guy like in the world at all, but much less in this environment around television, like acknowledging that, I say good for Ben, Like, you know, guys have body body issues too, and I'm sure that he probably. I mean, that's an incredibly vulnerable thing to admit to a woman and then in front of national television. Um, yes, both things can be true. Though, Yes, that is vulnerable and and powerful, and maybe that's those

maybe that's the most important thing. But also it feels forced and it feels like rushed, like she can find that out. It doesn't. Here's our second date. I immediately I'm going to tell you every traumatic thing about my life, like that feels weird. But they don't get much time together, and he panicked, she doesn't do it. She was wearing such a sexy keyhole dress. He didn't know what to do, and so he panicked any trauma bonded Robbie b How

old is she? I think she turns thirty during the filming. She's twenty nine? Is that right? He's twenty nine? And how old is underbyte Zack six? Is she like one of the older ones? Yeah? Yeah, that's what she likes. She likes his maturity, she likes that he's older. He feels lived in then he sure does. So. Then she gives him the rose and he was like, I hate when people say stuff like this, and he said, he says that rose. This is the rose that meant more

to me than anybody else at that table. It's like, you don't know how anybody else feels. You don't know what anybody else's story is. Like, Okay, you're excited about it, and you can say he's the most to me of any of the roses I've received so far, Like, how do I know that? My just it's because it's your experience. Like I hate when people. Laurie knows we went to college together, and my college roommate like three days in said to me Artem, I'm not like you. I have

a lot of love to give. Oh my god. Yeah, when people are like, what that sounds actually like you're really insulting me to my feet, like I'm right here, right here, I'm not like it was then you know what. But he was very tidy and he had a house in Hamptons, so we got to go there on the weekend. Um, so then Noah and Bennett there and and so this is so forced because I think they realized running out of episodes because four episodes got eaten up by Claire.

So there and there, everybody. They know the structure. You gotta have a two on one. So they're jamming it in and they go, something's up between you two no and Bennett and I've got a figure. I'm getting to the bottom of it. It's like, okay, we're not going to get a proper two on one. Like they're jamming it in before a rose ceremony. Yeah, it wasn't even a date. It was just they just sat in a room and argued. Yet No, she wasn't even there. She

wasn't even there. So then so then he says, um, this behavior that I've seen out of you is juvenile. I'm not on the babysitter, I'm on the bachelorette. He was so proud of that line, like he could not handle how good he thought that line was. Um. And then and he says, no one is upset Tasia other than Noah. So that's a little preview of what's to come. So Blake is super horny. We find out every like we find out in the morning. He just turns out.

All the guys know he's horning, and Easy is so excited. Easy gets the one on one he's working out. He's marching and like high kicking by the pool. Laurie, did you notice that? You know, I did notice that, and and I was thinking, God, damn, he's thirsty for those cameras. He was making the you know, he was really emoting. And then he did this weird like Nixon peace sign thing. When when did he do that to by himself? You know he he actually has Roger Stone's face tattooed. And

that's exactly right, That's exactly right. Um, And so you know I like him, Uh, but I just thought that he was really working it and I'm being good for him. So they go and she's like, are you scared to fall in love? I hope you're not scared, I will say. So they set up a whole thing where they're like, it's it's like Blair Witch camera style, and they say

that like Quinta is haunted. And I was actually shocked that this five star resort was willing to kind of I don't know, maybe you get ghost hunter tourists, maybe it's a good thing to have a ghost, but I was like, do you really want to put it out there that there's like people died in your rooms and

like buried under your tennis courts. I was shocked by that, but I did find it kind of cute when she's scared him, Like the screaming and the squeals, like felt very authentic, and I actually found it entertaining to watch how scared he was, and then she goes, what the hell, So it's haunting of William Morgan. He was a rich oil baron and a woman carried his baby that he

fell in love with it. But in nineteen seventies, nineteen seventeen, Carol and the baby died and Mr Morgan went mad and the body was discovered in room one twenty, And I kept thinking, like, does like Quinta want that? Do they want that? So then they go and they're like

prepare yourself, Prepare yourself. And there was a doll and they had audio effects and a right but like really shitty props were kind of like rag like really they were like it was when all of the retail was closed down and they couldn't get their hands on like the prop houses where they could normally stage it well, so they just threw a couple of blankets on the

crumpled up old newspaper. Yeah, and then like and then then there was the body of Carol and Grace were under the tennis court and they had like crying sounds and stuff. What don't you think of the actual spooky date? Jerry Frankola Costa. It was fun. It was a fun date. It was dare I say easy. It was like, Okay, this will be fun. Turn off all the lights and it'll be like a slumber party. I get it. I

get it. It's better than low low low cost, better than the floor is lava from last week, the diet Sunday, then with the Giant Sunday. It's way better than the forest off I forgot the remote. Whoa, hey, Laurie, what did you think of this haunted date? I completely disagree. I thought this this date was so clearly production driven. They were completely full of ship there. Of course, there's

no ghosts. They made the whole thing up. They got a piece of paper that said it was from Morgan and like spilled some coffee on it and then and then I didn't think their reactions were genuine at all. They you know, they had pretended the entire time, and uh, you know with the sounds, you know, you know, there's like a I don't know, an audio person they're putting up the sound, and then they have to pretend that they're scared. I thought it was. It was so ridiculous, Katie.

I see Katie leading forward. I thought they were scared, Katie, What did you think? I mean, I think they were like a little scared. But my favorite thing is that they made them use these like nighttime cameras put in the back. It was just like washed out because of the bright lights of the hotel that we're clearly on. That was my favorite part. But I actually kind of like these dates in a way because I feel like they're fun and they're silly and they get to know

each other. Like I actually liked the floor's lava. I thought that was fun, which one, which one Flores Lava one like I thought that was oh yeah, yeah, I mean I liked Ivan. Yeah, Flora's Lava bum me out. The Flora's Lava felt forest of like I made a little kid. But I did like the ice cream. I thought their twister was cute. I was not into Flora's Lava. The most ice cream in the world ever, most never acknowledged,

never acknowledged. Dr Banana. Yeah, I I liked. I kind of like the was it the haunted date or whatever they came up with. I for a while, I couldn't figure out if it was real, And then I was like they had to have made all this up, right, Okay. I was like, can you google it? Can you google? Is La keen to haunt? Let's find that out. You find that out. I thought it was that part of it was put on, But I thought it felt like they were genuinely not like scared for their life, but

like going through a haunted house scared. That was the kind of giggling the thing I didn't understand. And she was like, I want to see if there's romance romance here. There's no romance here with easy, and she took him on a date that was very not romantic. She did not want to be alone with him. She did not she didn't want romance, she wasn't attracted to him, and so so then afterwards he goes, that was a cute ass date, and I thought that was really cute. I

liked that. Um and then all right, I just found a review for Lukin on Triple and it says a great place, four stars, but my room was haunted. Yeah, looking at that too, Okay, so attracted four stars, I was tortured by a ghost stars look. I like high end hotela. I like having my own fireplace. I did get tea bagged by the ghost. It was to William Morgan before Nights for a long weekend. Fully Tea backed for a long weekend. But I we this is a different Laquita. This is in Windom Twin Falls. I also

want also Tea backed. Also Tea backed. You know what he makes the round Yeah I don't think. I mean he went mad and he's Tea backing people and ever Laquita Coast to coast, he's teeth backing only minus one star overall great star. Next her to be team backed from the undead all night. But I had a great view from the undead glad to be fountain. Room service was delicious. Trouble sleeping with all that, so much access to the taint. Um So then uh so then they

go back in. There's one more thing and she like breaks a picture in a room and then they just leave it there. There's like a thing that falls off like a mantle and just smashes and they're like, let's get out of here. And I thought, was that like in the room anyway? Um? And he goes, oh, I act like I didn't like it, but I loved it. I was like, oh, grab me, touched my muscles. Um. And he says, we're a couple. That means you're the same. If you're scared, I'm scared. I had to match your energy.

I thought that was cute. Um. He says. Uh. She's like, yeah, you're different now like in the beginning, we really had that connection. I really felt like it. And he's like, well, this has been this process from the moment I first saw you. I felt a very strong feeling and when you know, you know, and I have to say this is real for me and Tasia, And I'm thinking, don't say it, don't say it. Say it like I felt like I felt like I wanted to cover my face,

like when Ben walked and holding his dog. He said, I feel like I'm falling in love with you. I can't lie. And the look on her face was like late what? And then and then she says, um, you know, I just everything is so perfect and uh and it's so real and so honest, and she was like, and she goes and I have to say, you are a good, solid man and you deserve so much, but I cannot give you this rose. Um, I'm not there and I don't know that I will get there. And then he

goes away. So the first person we've seen in a while riding away in the escalade and uh, and he was like, what just happened? I just thought this isn't my love of my life? And now I've never been more disappointed. That was hard to watch. We're gonna take break and come back and talk about it. I don't know about you, but things are getting so hotten you I think I gotta take I'll break and we're back.

So easy has just been whisked away. He said, I love you, and now he's in an escalade going wait what who wants to talk first take it, Robbie B. I was just gonna say that I felt like she didn't, or at least it was edited this way. It didn't feel like she she let him down real quick, like I feel like she he deserved a little bit more in terms like look, I think you're great. I'm not there yet. I this pains me because I think you're you know what I mean. I just felt like she

let him down. She was like yeah, and he's like, wait, is this a job? As they're walking out and she's like no. She's like, are you sure about this? She's like, yeah, yeah, I let him yeah, just to let him down and that cute green dress. H franco I got so aret and you and I had a conversation on a previous episode about being a good date and dating people that are into it and you can see that they're into it and you're just trying to be a good date to get through the date, but you know you're not

into it. Yes, she's a master at this. She's the best bachelorette because she is. She makes everybody feel seen and loved and they're like, she's giving. She she extracts the best from people. She makes everybody happy, and and the date was part of it, like we're having fun, aren't We were having a great time. And I think that's why it feels a brough rob is because she's just trying to have a good time, knowing that this isn't gonna go anywhere. And then when he goes I'm

in love with you than he called it. He called it too early, Lorie, he called the game way too He did it himself, really, LORI, yeah, you know I have I haven't I have a theory about this. Um. Well, first of all, I've think on on the Bachelor Bachelorette, you have two types of people. You have the person who convinces themselves or the producers convinced them that they're actually in love, and then you have the other person who says that they love you because they want to

continue on this adventure and get more exposure. Now I'm convinced that Easy was the latter one. Well, that's what That's what, um. When we first did our draft picks. If I am not mistaken, I feel like we all thought that he might be there, right. Isn't that who we thought? Anna? Isn't that Lacey thought that he was

there for Instagram followers. I don't recall at this stage, but it seems I mean, it seems to me that he was on another reality TV show like Hard Knocks or something anyway, So it seems like opposed to it wouldn't be opposed to it. Um. But what was interesting to me as I actually think that he was going to get a rose. And when he told her that he loved her, Yes, he was not cringing. She looked fucking pissed. She looks so mad. She just look angry.

Wait a second, this guy, I've literally talked to him, maybe for a total of fifteen minutes. Yes, he's telling me he loves me. Yes, I was going to give him a rose. I'm not going to give him a rose now. But she held it together because that's the kind of bachelorrette she is. You're right, she I think she was like, you're so full of ship, you couldn't like you think you're playing the game so hard. You think this is what I want to hear is clearly fake?

Do you think so? Do you think if he had said, I'm just this was such a fun night and I'm so excited to see where this goes. Because I finally feel like we're getting somewhere and I'm just really excited to continue this journey. Like he had said that kind of platitude, you think he would have gotten the rose or do you think he was on the chopping block from the get go. I bet he would have gotten

a rose. He's a fun hang. You know, she probably isn't romantically interested in him, but he seems like charismatic and kind of fun. It looked like they had a good time. But the moment he did that, she was like, yeah, you can go. Because here's my question. We have what four episodes left? We can't figure it out. We have no there's no Bachelor starts on January four. I know we can't figure out. We can't figure out the schedule.

If anybody can figure it out and email it, they're going to continue at the same time, or do we have they're gonna double up. I think they're going to double up like they do in Paradise, or it'll be like a Monday and Tuesday a couple of weeks. Maybe because now that Dancing with the Stars is done, it'll be like maybe they'll do some like double I feel like we would have heard them say that they're going

to do that. I can't figure it out week. I mean they would have them currently if there's only four episodes left, they got to start cutting people and maybe I don't know. I don't see them doing it during Christmas week though, are like are they gonna do it on the twenties second or the twenty nine? Like that feels I don't know. More will be revealed. Who knows? It's confusing? Um, I do I agree with you that. I do think that easy would have gotten a rose

if he You're right, she did look pissed. She did look pissed and I and I hear what you're saying, Jerry also and I see you Tianna on a second. Um. Yeah, like when Jerry and I in a previous episode talked about when you're fun and like you go on a date and you know how to make put people at ease, but they don't necessarily ask you any questions, but they've

had a great time because you're fun. But then they like try to capture you and you're like, I, you know, you didn't even ask me a question, Like this is all manufactured in your brain, like that you just fell in love with yourself because you just talked about yourself the whole time, Tanna Um I was actually, now this is kind of bringing in some more outside information about

easy Be have some potential accusations against him. Um I don't know all a lot of the details right now, but a part of me is curious if they potentially cut out a lot of Easies interactions with Tasia once they heard about these allegations, and so we didn't see them interacting. So for us it felt very out of left field, But maybe there was more behind it that just that was edited out for, you know, just to get rid of him. That's what had some people online.

And again I don't read spoilers, but there was some speculation online that ABC heard some allegations, which I think as they there was some speculation that they trimmed him, that he might have been more heavily featured than he has been, but you can't remove and that maybe they found out about it after it started airing, so they

couldn't completely remove him. And then it's not like it's hard to completely edit out a one on one right, which also makes me wonder if it had gotten to them while they were well no, because then how would they know. It would have had to It would have had to be my gun phillies would be have to be after it started airing, and then they'd be like, oh, let's let's go easy uneasy, you know, let's uh maybe pump the brakes a little on that one over easy okay.

So then we have so so easy. He's gone and here we are and Joe Joe shows up and she was like, well, boys, there's no cocktail party, and uh, Bennett and Noah, Uh there you're gonna be. So they're actually technically is a cocktail party, but it's gonna be later because first Bennett and Noah are gonna go one on one, two on one like a pre cocktail party.

And then uh, Noah starts going, I'm not going home because some snob dragged my name through the mud and ed the dislocated shoulder ed. He goes, this should be a battle. Roy ah Um Bennett says, I crushed life under pressure. No one will realize that is in fact the truth. And as he's flying back to Oklahoma, I brought you a gift, Noah go, I'm a human man. Here is the gift that I brought you. Like any normal thirty five year old human man on The Bachelor.

It's a polka dot gift that's not even wrapped like a normal person wraps it, but they wrap it like it's on a soap opera where the lid is separately wrapped from the bottom, so that he's like, do you want me to open or do you want to open it? Well, I guess you should. You should open because that's technically what people do when they get that's you know, you open it humans humans and gift what humans give gifts?

Humans like the other person open it, but as just my turn, it's my animatronica, so would open the plot right protocol, you can't looking first gift, that is the proper way to give a gift. Give the number one friendship gift. So he lures him in with like, Okay, I'm gonna put his guard down. It is a red bandanna. We talked about the fact that you're from Oklahoma, and I also talked about my time being a cowboy because I'm not livilege, but I did outward bound in Jackson

Hall for three months while I was at Andover. Then we have number kill. It is another gift. Both these are shocks that were laundered. They were worn, but they were laundered and folded by me their mustache shocks to prove that man human facial hair should remain on my angles. My socks kept you. Number three shift their gift book.

It's about for a component into emotional intelligence. I think you're deficient in through you the four self management you because as said, I just think you don't build that out of the womb. I did not have emotional your age. I did not. I would he should just talk to Taylor, who was anyway. I just you know, you have to love yourself. Any man in the house is trying to love yourself. This is where we start to fully you know, by the way I feel frustrated. I just he was like,

Noah's I'm sorry, Grandpa. Noah is just like feeding him rope, just like I was like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, old man. I'm sorry, sir. Are we it's your gift? Get what you say. I stole this gift from the abandoned, stead of the young and the restless. I saw wrapped up and I but nobadd because COVID I took even probe. Okay, uh, who wants to take it? Who wants to start to give giving rental. Rob is right there hot at the mike. Uh.

That was the most insane thing. And the fact that he didn't even say, I gave you this book about how to act when and influenced people wherever? Then the book was he actually named. There are four components. Number one is I couldn't even write him down. I couldn't even write it down. He's he's definitely you know, I don't even know what how to unpack him. I think Jerry's right, there's something. He's a little bit on the spectrum. Doesn't know how people operate. He doesn't He's doing all

the things that he thinks. He thinks he's really perfect. I am not privileged, Rob, I am not privileged. You think it's a privilege? What what what about me? Reads privileged Rob? And then when they called him out and Noah calls him out for something he said earlier, He's like,

I stand by that. I'm so crazy. Uh. And then Tasha came out, Yes, but Franco Franco, well, he just doesn't know how to He tries to play both sides, even when when Tashia comes in and he's confronted about you know, um, the being being person, the comments, the sniping, and he goes, We'll be specific, and it's such a

it's such like I got you. And then he goes, okay, well, if I'm supposed to be specific, you said like there's a percent chance that I won't end up with her, and he goes, well, no, I said zero post you would end up. And it's just like I don't remember Bennett bought five thousand, like you do remember. Stop being like I'm the juvenile one, You're a child. You're really growing on me. It makes Noah look better and better.

I feel like he's handling it well, Laurie. If you're asking me who I would pick, it ain't gonna keeping it is absolute words. I'm not going to pick the huge fund manager. I'm gonna pick the nerves jars that goes to you, Mr Jerry. Yeah, take it. Um. On my dating profile currently, it says there are four components to emotional intelligence and I am deficient in three of them. I have deficient in four of them. I don't want to brag with this. Four out or four and I'm

deficient in four of them. Uh dr B, what did you think of the gift giving ceremony. If I was no I would have been like, jokes on you. I don't even know how to read Bennett Arden as a master sort of comedic mind were you were you a little like oh, I wouldn't be able to contain myself if he were talking, I'd be making fun of this. But Noah has a stoic poker face. I letting it go. But I'm like, oh, man, I would missiles the thing

that the thing that is um. I would be so bummed that I wouldn't have my cell phone so I couldn't call everybody after, like, because I just be thinking, who am I going to call first? To read? But I would hope that he is. I would hope Noah has a buddy in the house that he can go recount all of this terr. I don't feel like he has a pal. I would just be like dying, by the way, why why is everybody angry at Noah? He

was He was awesome, dude, fucking dislocated shoulder. Guys like I can't fight and she goes, well, who will fight for me? And he leapt in the ring? Is now he's public Enemy number one. Didn't think of it in time and Chris Harrison asked, who's going to fight him? So he he he was the one who's like, was scrappy and was sharp. Yeah, I have no beef with Noah Lorie. Yeah, you know, I think they liked him

except for Bennett and the shoulder shrug. Dude. You know, it's sounds like he was just young and uh and then generally well liked and maybe just edited to create this drama with Bennett. But I mean, seriously, like, what's not to like about him? And a nurse? He can help you carry the groceries in. Yeah, he's a nurse. He's a hot, sweet, young, funck boy nurse. I'm not mad at Noah. And apparently he and Joe bonded over there, um, you know, working with COVID patients prior to their arrival.

And yeah, so I got no I got no problem with Noah. So then she comes in. She's like, um, I was feeling both of you, but now I'm really frustrated over at and he's like, I have no real wheel towards Noah, and he was like, dude, She's like, um, and then and then he but then no is a piece of ship. Though then Noah goes well he did it again. He essentially questioned her integrity like he is

kind of a piece of ship when he does. There is a side of him that it could master manipulate convince her into the fact that she was being disrespected, like he Okay, if I'm being very honest, as much as I love my little fun weight nurse, there is a side of him that sucks a little bit. Jerry, I'm going, look, it's it's ride in offense. But his perspective is not wrong. Is it a little lawyery? Sure? But is it right? Yeah, you can't be sitting there going why did you get a rose? Like you're you

have zero percent chance of ending up with her. That is questioning her judgment. You are saying you don't deserve the rose. And she's an idiot, that is. And he didn't say that, he let her infer it. So is that machiavellian? Is that puppet mastery lawyery? I don't know. It was shrewd and it was right, and it was the it was the play. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, he's not sucking as much as the you know, the five thousand. Now the bot sucks, all right, I

think both of them are gonna go. I think she's gonna let both of them go, though, I think I think no, sure Bennett, Sure Bennett. But like it if we only have four episodes left or whatever. You're right, she's got to start making Yeah, all right, I'm going to throw this out before we do tweeter the weeks. Who do you think is going to be the top three? Robbie b Top three? Um, Brendan Zaack Zack? AND's there Ivan?

Who's Who's the guy that came with the second group of guys that he hasn't say He hasn't said anything yet. Spencer Maybe Spencer. I don't know. Okay, you don't think Ivan? Who's Ivan? Ivan was last week? And they he is? Oh yeah, yeah, I cream fla buffler. Okay, Laurie, you're up. You know I would also say um uh oh my gosh, Brendan, yes, Ivan, because they're just my two favorites to begin Nan, it's a toss up between Ben and za. But I feel like there's some clown that her dad doesn't like, which

makes me feel like that's Noah, Well, that's right. Her dad is really tough for her dad's super tough. And there's some preview where her dad was like, this guy's a clown, and I'm like, well, Brendan is not a clown, and Ivan's not a clown. It's either Za. Zach could be the clown, but I feel like No is more of a clown. Okay, there's a couple of sleepers in the back. I can't remember his name. Is it Darnell?

He hasn't said anything right, which makes me wonder if they're holding on to him because she has the hots for him. Maybe I don't know, Tamar, Yeah, he started with um. I don't think so. I think she can't hide her hots. Three. I'm hoping for Brendan. I don't think Key wins, but I want him to land. I think she's really horny for Zach. I hope for Ivan. I hope Ivan, but I fear it might be fun boy nurse because her dad's gonna hate him. Ben might get too intense and like freak her out at a

certain point. Maybe her dad hates Underby, her dad might head underbyte. Tanna, what do you feel? And I'm coming to you, Katie. I'm thinking Ivan gets up there. I think Ben um uh Zack and then it's between Spencer and Noah for the fourth Spencer is not. I mean they might be. He would be the one that would be saving because he got that first impression. Rose Katie, where are you at? Girl? I think Brendan for sure love him. I would love it to be Ivan, but

I'm not. I'm not sure. I mean this week they barely talked and that made me kind of worry about him. Um, and then I agree, I think it's going to be Benn or Zach, but I do. I did think the dad was talking about Noah to when he said clown, so that that confuses me as well. So Brendan for sure and hopefully Ivan. All right, TANNAHI do you so? Last week? I feel like we were at like nine oh seven or something. I can't remember how many stars we had. I feel like it was like around like nine. Yeah,

we I asked. We are now at nine hundred and eighty seven stars? Are you kidding me? Thank you? Right? That was like in one week we got like a bump. Isn't that crazy? Thank you to everyone who's been leaving these reviews and they're so they're all five ours, like, thank you so much. All Right, here's one. Let's see five stars. This is from um At Oh the K Will you accept this review? I refreshed my podcast page like a crazy person forty seven times a day, hoping

for a new episode. You have to try this podcast after you fall in love with art and which I know you will. Thank you. You must buy and read her book. Thank you. I just finished it and now I love her even more than I did before, if that is even possible. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. I don't mean to be the biggest need hole on earth. But if you guys read my book and you liked my book, if you could leave a

review on good Reads and Amazon, it also helps. But at a certain point, it's like art and we get it. We're leaving your reviews. Stop it, um we also have This is from Sienna five stars keeping me sane and smiling. My sister suggested I listened to this podcast in the middle of Colton season, and I haven't looked back yet. Fast forward a few years, and this is the only

thing getting me through quarantine and maternity leave. Thanks so much for keeping the sleep deprived new moms smiling through late night feeds and being locked inside my house for the last nine months. Sienna, you are keeping us sane. To all of you guys, it is our pleasure. How awesome are these reviews? Anna? They're so nice. People are really cool. I you know what makes me happy. Here's one more five stars, Hannah Bach. I'm gonna have to stand on this one. This is the best Bachelor podcast

in the known universe. None of my friends watched the show, and when I heard Arden on Lost Cultureristas, I immediately started listening to the podcast. Arden and her friends recapt the delightful dumpster fire that is the Bachelor, which is a million times better than listening to Nick Viele's thoughts on canceler Culture. Oh sorry, Nick, Happy birthday Art and I feel so lucky to be able to listen to this amazing podcast every week. And then we also got

on five Stars Natch Love More, Ryan and Rona. Arden is a smoke show. Can I tell you I appreciate all the smoke show comments. You think I don't idea excuse me, it's because you're a smoke show. It's because I'm such a smoke show you guys. So we appreciate all of these reviews. I mean, it's because I'm such a smoke show. I know it's like intimidating, but like, I know we're gonna get not only I feel like we're gonna get to like I think we can get to two thousand by the end of next year, right,

I hope, So let's do it. Let's do it. I feel I want to look and see like two point one k you know what I mean, Like when you get to that K point, I just I'm like super excited. Um, and you know what I love. I want to give a shout out to all of the people that discovered us during the pandemic, like, welcome to all of you. Thank you for finding us, thank you for diving in. We appreciate your support, all of it. Um, Okay, let's see here is here's an email we got literally one

hour ago. This is at Rose podcast at gmail dot com. So I haven't looked at it, but the subject line is gentleman listening to will you accept this Rose at Whittier Gas Station? All right, I'm intrigued from Elizabeth Bell, hi Arden, Tanna, and Katie. I love you guys on the podcast so much. I went to watch Bass batchelor at last night with my husband when he said, oh,

I was waiting to tell you in person. I went to the gas station on the way to work and there was a homeless looking man behind me in line with his phone in his shirt pocket facing out, listening to Will You Accept This Rose Podcast? A full volume in the gas station in Whittier, California. Also, my husband once went kayaking with Chris Harrison and coached his son

josh A k A. Harrison, Harrison and Lacrosse. I too missed the interest songs, especially Rob's first song Bachelor the year nineteen, still in my head to this day, Happy early birthday Art and Elizabeth. That is incredible. I can't can you believe that that happened that, Like, at some point recently there was a man standing in a gas station lasting our podcast like no ear phones, Like that's incredible,

that's incredible. I do like that. Where's Wittier It's just like outside kind of East l A. I get confused about because I didn't grow up here, and I still get confused, Like I get confused, like where's Hemmett, Like I I can't put my finger on exactly where everything is. Oh my god, Elizabeth, that is great news. Harrison Harrison is great news. Yeah, our podcast just got so long. I mean you think I don't know. I love I love the songs, but I also I'm trying to be

respectful of your time. All right, If you want to email us another awesome sighting of people blastingly except this rose Um, then please please email us at rose podcast at gmail dot com. And if you were gonna do tweeted the week, if you want to participate, tweet to

us by midnight Pacific time. That a good time. Tanna you'll do me at arta marine m y r I N and anna hos n A h O s s n i e h and do hashtag w y A t R. If you want to be considered, uh says that we miss you, but we know you're commuting for work, but we miss you. So you know, maybe your priorities should not be uh earning a living. We always appreciate you. Says that. Okay, so I'm gonna read you a bunch and we're gonna narrow it down to two. Here we go.

This is three D underscore Derito at josh All. Chris Harrison had one date with Ed and said, I need a break from all this. I'd rather be exposed to COVID. It's wild, but still there. It is wild that Ed is still there. This is from Abbey at Bad Batti ble Zach talking about how beautiful isn't even the right word to describe Tasha and the wedding dress and he needs a new work And all I'm thinking is smoke show so true. I mean, I'm sorry, but Chason was right.

This is from Cassie Ross Miller at Nails, Underscores and Kits. I can't wait to see Noah and Bennett rip each other apart on Quarantine Paradise. There's something much just the idea of a show called Quarantine. They're webb sus Paradis made me laugh. Harod has about suits but like they're like they're in Spido's like from like they're like since to the wasate and like they're donged throughout. Okay um. This is from I'm Better Than Ben Shapiro at Andrea

Underscore Shapiro. Tonight, we heard about topical issues such as getting hooked on prescription painkillers, men coping with eating disorders, and the pain of not being able to present your fake French chateau to Tassia. Uh Okay, we have shy in Constant at Trixie Firecracker. I want a real two on one, not this. I'll talk to both of you and send one home. I missed the days of the two on one where someone is dumped and stranded in like a swamper in the woods. Yes, yeah, alright, Okay,

there's gonna be two more. This is from Cheyenne Constant a Trixie Firecracker. This whole gift presentation, just to take it up screen time if this gets dragged into the next episode. These two in this situation is such a beating that I'm looking forward to seeing the kidnapped women on Big Sky. Oh man. This is from to call Levi at NJ and J and J and j Um. Noah is the pool boy Bennett's wife is cheating on him with. There's one more that also makes me a lot.

This is from Bonnie Revas at Dance. Bonnie, I know you are all expecting to be heading to the cocktail party, Jojoe says to a room full of men and shorts and tank tops. Okay, all right, I'm torn, Okay for sure, Big Sky that I'm torn between Bennett's wave of cheating on him pool boy or shorts and tank tops. I think shorts and tank tops, but I'm not sure I'm open for the second one. What do you think, pool boy or shorts and tank tops for the second one? Okay,

all right, here we go. These are the final two Nicole Levia and J and J and J. Noah is the pool boy. Bennett's wife is cheating on him with and Sheyenne Constant at Trixie Firecracker. This whole gift presentation is just taking up screen time. If this gets dragged into the next episode, These two and this situation is such a beating that I'm looking forward to seeing the kidnapped women on Big Sky. And then this is a photo underneath it. Okay, kidnapped women on Big Sky or

pool Boy, I'll start. I'm gonna say kidnapped women on Big Sky. Lorie, I'm saying Big Sky too, Okay, Franco. Big Sky is just so well written. It's still the feeling of the pandemic. It's just like Robbie be Tanna Big Sky, Katie Levine Big Sky. It was unanimous, Shy and constant, a full gold medal round. This whole gift presentation just keeps taking up screen time. If this gets dragged in the next episode. Oh, these two in this situation is such a beating that I'm looking forward to

seeing the kidnapped women on Big Sky. You're curious about the kidnapped women on Big Sky? Now, oh my god, have seen it? Um you guys, where can people find you? What would you like to promote Franco LaCosta? Uh? Promoting nothing? Uh, but I'm at Jerry trainer on Instagram and Twitter. You're such a delight and I know that you're gonna be with us next week in a romper with did you order your romper? Yeah, let's see a preview. Paget went

on a shardonnay, can you open it? Paget, Jerry was on a thing with Jerry has been pageted, so she's he's gotten a text thread of Paget around five pm and uh, he was on one with our rookie of the season, Doug Benson, and he who kept sending pictures from Lakita of his girlfriend and a romper. So then Paget ordered the romper, and then Jerry ordered the romper and has demanded Jerry wear it. And she's gonna wear the romper and then allegedly Doug Benchon is giving me

oh my god, Oh my god, oh my god. It's like a floral movement and someone what's gonna give you? There's no it's gonna give me your sn caball this scene between your balls is yeah, you might have to cut a hole in the taint anyway. Um okay, So where can people find you? Robbie be uh Rob Benedict on Twitter and Row Benedict on Instagram. And I'm doing a stage at solo show this Saturday at noon Pacific, and you can find those details on my Twitter page

where I'm doing. I can at home concert and he has a podcast and I have a podcast called Kings of con The podcast also details on my Twitter of that. Uh, Laurie, nobody's allowed to find you. But here's what I want to say. If you guys love me and you want to hear about Laurie, there's some parts of her in my book little Miss Little Compton, available worldwide. Also, they kindle the audio. I mean, that's a nice gift you guys. That's a nice solid gift. Um. Yeah, and also give

yourself the gift of Patreon. Dr Banana. Where can people find you? I'm at Anna HOSTI on Twitter. Keep tweeting at me every week. It's fun, it's fun to read. And I just did uh Deckheads. I did Anna's below podcast that's up. You want to listen to that? Yeah? Oh god, such a joy, Katie? You watch? Sorry? Can I just say if you watch below deck please come listen to my Deckheads podcast that I host with Nick Turner on the I Heart Radio. So fun. I had

such a good time, Katie. I'm Katie Underscore money on Twitter and Instagram. If you live in Georgia, please uh vote in the upcoming special election and nate to charities for the holidays this season instead of buying gifts that you don't need. And if please support your local business, yes, or that I should say that if you do by gifts, go to small shops they need it more, go to restaurants by gift cards, all that kind of stuff. But yeah, I love flavors. All right, Well, I'll leave it on that.

You got day, Harny, stay safe, don't forget to party, and uh, I'll watch as many episodes as they put up in December because quite honestly, I'm not interested in doing much else. My name is I don't want to do anything. I keep having all these things I have to do, and I'm like, I don't want to do We're gonna be locked down anyway. We gotta add on another bath. Oh my god. I honestly, I don't want to do anything. I'm really I just want to do this.

This is literally the only thing that like, I like. I wake up from my sarcophagus and I'm like, this is that put me back? And I don't want to do anything but this? All right? You guys, stay harny, don't forget to paw. Yeah, you want to get all up and get tonight. It feels so good. I just gotta walking up. Questions figure, when you read some of this role, you read those roles in your words? Who some of these roles into your world? Will you accept this?

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