"THE WILLIANS PODCAST!" W/ Nikki Glaser and Jerry Trainor

boogie garage in Los Angeles, California. Holy cow, do we have an episode to break down? Um? I just want to say that I just got back from Maui last night at midnight. I was up till four in the morning. And my first there, I stayed at the White Lotus Hotel at the Four Seasons Maui, And the first day I was there, I saw in the pool Colton Underwood

with his boyfriend. And I played it wrong because in my mind I arrived on Thursday, our bachelor historian Lori had texted me TMZ Alerts that he was going to be at my hotel there. He was basically greeting me upon arrival. He looked great. His boyfriend was a silver Fox. I was there for all of it. They were so cute. They had like a cabana by the adult pool. They he was like swimming around having cocktails. My plan was to wait till Friday, swim over and say, oh, hey,

I'm friends with Wells dot dot. He checked out. He checked out of the hotel. I will say this, according to other guests, he was lovely. They asked for photos with him and they it to them. And there was another celeb there who will not be named, who would not take photos of people. I didn't want to deal with it anyway. That's my report. It was spectacular. He looked great. I was so happy for them, and they were like canoodling in a really cute way. I felt

so happy that he could just like be himself. It was like like Christmas came early in the form of Colton Underwood and his liver Fox. On my first day on my vacation with me today, I you know, I love to put together a cocktail party. You know I like to pair guests and make friendships. This is one that I've been looking forward to for a few weeks. First up, well, well, let's start with the one who would not take photos because he just jimed in when I go to the White Lotus, I don't want to

deal with the regulars. I don't want to deal with the normans, ladies and gentlemen. Christian Bail loves Bachelor Paradise. You know, turns up. Christian turns out it doesn't like to be distracted by people, but he loves the Bachelor freshies. No, you know this gentleman. Look, you know this gentleman from

the first first go round of I Carly. You know this gentleman from Drake and Josh, And now you are falling back in love with him all over again with the reboot of I Carley, which just got picked up for a second season. And I feel like he's doing some kind of a game show because he's been playing

hard to get. I don't know what that's about. Most importantly, he was our Rookie of the Year twenty twenty during the hard year for America, but a great year for our podcast because we got to know the sentinel ladies and gentlemen. Jerry Trainer, thank you very much. That was quite the intro. Yes, there's a game show. My voice is very Raspy the blimp has pulled me back in and I'm hosting a kid's game show. I don't even know if I can talk about it or what it's

I guess it doesn't matter. But I got a lot of yelling dealing with child contestants. It's come on, come on, Carson, give me something. It's a lot of yelling. Are you like the easter Bunny? When people like can you go to the grove? Are you just? But yes, it's a thing. Yes, the kid, The kids love the kids. And I feel like, and Nikki can probably attest to this that grown ups that are fans of other grown ups I think are

a little bit more respectful for the most part. But grown ups that are parents of kids that are fans of someone, they have no chill. They want to be cool in their kids eyes, and that is paramount and they are. And they'll just run up to me and back. Ah, my kid hates me. If I get a picture with you, they'll love me again. So let's do that. You're pairing a lot of divorced dad's hopes and dreams like they're like, you remember Monica, she was my secretary. She's going to

come with us to the Cheesecake Factor also with us. Okay, this is come on, we spent well. First of all, let's just start. She's like a fucking world famous comedian. She's a brilliant stand up. She's on tour right now just killing it. She had and she's had specials galore, most recently on Netflix. She had one called Banging That's fucking hilarious. She has a daily podcast on iHeart Radio called the Nicky Glasier Podcast. She's also the host of the show that we are doing on Patreon right now,

f Boy Island, and she's killing it. And I love watching these guys not on every time she makes a joke, which she's so good at and then they're like, whoa, that was a joke. Like watching these guys deal with a funny hot woman is spectacular. And she also got to see all when we went to Outside Lands with all the dudes there, she was right there with us ladies and gentlemen. Nicky Glaiser, Oh guys, thank you so much for having me back art And that was an

amazing introduction. Yes, we had so much fun and Outside Lands and meeting all so many people I've still kept in touch with to this day. And yeah, alex at Wells. Wells I knew from doing radio in Nashville back when I was working at Zany's, you know, before he was

on long before he was on the Bachelorette. And I remember going to a show like the day of usually do morning radio, but this was like in the afternoon, and this kind of like sleepy eyed, like cool guy with like a dog like it was just like hey, guys, just follow me back here. And I was like, who's this guy? Is so hot? There's never hot people in radio. And I was like, oh my god, is there a vibe? And They're like, wasn't And I just I clocked him.

And then when he showed up again and now, um yeah, now he's the fill in for when Lance Bass and David Spade want to go home. We're flying, They're flying runner Less now like yeah, last night there was like, yeah, we don't have a host, and it's like a captain lest ship and they need well, who's doing the voice over for like tonight it's John. It's little John. No way, Oh that makes sense now, Okay, he I got it.

I got it. I can see him with crunk cup in hand doing those Vidos that is in his closet at home. I learned that it is closet at home, and I asked the same thing. I said, what the fund is this? And then the first day somebody also caught like that. There was no like all the p's were popping. It was definitely a closet at home. And it's little John and you know what, I'm here for it. Okay, here we go overall. Now, Nikki, Jerry, where are you at in the franchise? So, Jerry, this is your first

time during Paradise? Correct are you? Is it everything that I promised? Yeah, it's crazy. There's been a I didn't know what I was watching at first. I was like, so, I don't understand how anybody wins. People just keep showing up. I don't get it. I need a refresher on this show. By the way, what is what is the goal here? And how does it right? I've watched many seasons and I can't remember what we're all trying to do here. So basically, here's the rules of the game. It's horny

musical chairs. Okay, so it's just think I think it's like, it's horny musical chairs. And as we saw last night, which we'll get to because I have never screamed at my television more. I mean we this, that's a whole next level, which is gonna get his whole segment. I've we've never seen a villain, a nice guy turned into such a marvel villain, like it was the origin story of this but this sweet we've never usually you can

smell a villain coming. And like we had some wind trade winds blowing early on about we heard about Piper, but there was no inkling of the piece of ship that he would become when he was on tatious season now, So basically I felt it those wins I need to texted about the winds we did earlier we did did were like I was like, your Bara, that are working. Mine was broken that day because I was like, no, no, he's sweet, he's shy, he's got a Massachusett's accent, he's

a were startling. Here's the deal. It's horny musical chairs. So let's say, Jerry, you were you and Nick you really like Nikki and like you know that, but like you don't know what we You and I are there first and like is Nikki coming? What week? Is Nikki coming? You basically have to like strike up. The whole goal is to be sort of a last couple standing and to get engaged to think this is okay, Okay, no,

that's the thing. The thing the game ufication part of it that I keyed in on is like it's like a power dynamic. It's like you want to be with someone that's more into you than you are to them so that you can give them your rose and you know they'll give you their rows. And then if the person you really like shows up, then you'd be like, oh, I didn't know and I the spark I feel over here is I don't feel it here? And then you then you end up. But if Brendan and Piper are

now let's say solid, why aren't they gonna win? If they're already a couple, why don't we just go okay, well they're going to be the last couple standing because nothing's going to break them apart. Okay, okay, So there's that. Yes, okay, this situation, yes, no, I agree with you. This has never happened before before. Okay, Okay, here we go. No, not like this. Before we get going, we need to bring in are very important. Without these two this production crew.

I do not know where. Then Anna looks like she's in the ruins of where. What are you doing? What is happening? Dr Banana? Are you okay blank? If you've been kidnapped? What is happening? Yes, photos act took. It's like a little like side hub in a beach and Laguna beach. I don't know. It looks like things have gone awry. Katie living to use green screens, Katie, Now you're you're nodding your head. Has this happened before? Yes, this happened in season too, but it was not this bad,

and it was they tried to cover it up. It was Joe, who was a Southern guy, like a strong Southern accident and Samantha and his licking his lips, and Joe came in and started dating this single mom named Julia, and then as soon as Samantha came in, he was just like, who was Julia? I've never met her before? And then he and Samantha started like, you know, hanging out,

and then it came out. Then they started fighting. Then it came out that there was like literally hundreds of texts like he sent these to Chris Harrison, hundreds of texts between the two of them of Samantha doing like saying, do whatever you need to do to stay wait for me there and they but like on the show, they tried to cover it up until like they started fighting and then he just threw under the bus. But it

wasn't this bad. I've never seen and and so we're gonna get to it, just no, just know we're going to get there because because we have to get through some other stuff first. But I do want to also say there's never been such an obvious I'm gonna say that the dragon has eaten its own tail, and that we've never had Instagram as a character so officially, like hosting Fboy Island, like being inside the machine of something like this, Yes, talk to us about your feelings, like

having been in the belly of one of these bees. Um, I just see how um these things like, I know that people knew what was coming. I don't believe for a second that anyone who's putting the show together didn't arrange it for it to be exactly the way it is. And that's not to say lied or you know, made these people, told these people to say certain things. The behavior that these people have on these shows is their

own and happens from the environment that producers create. So this is this is um and there's a lot of things that happened on reality shows. I do want to say that I I that can't be planned and can't be like foreseen a lot on f L. And when we were starting, I was so worried that what if these girls don't like any of these guys, Like what is going to happen if like they just don't have anything with anyone. And people that were producers on the show assuaged my fears and go, oh, sweet girl, it's

it's it's a reality show. There's a bunch of guys and they're in a bubble and they don't have phones or anyone. They're gonna like someone. I go, but I've I could pick random twenty four guys and not like any of them. And they're like, no, you what you would? You would like one of them? You find away. It was just like there was no worry. I go, well, what if they like them and there's no drama and

they go, oh, it's okay. There's always going to be something that we can do or someone we can bring in, someone we can take away, something will happen where it will lead to drama, and that didn't ruin it for me as a you er being like, oh my gosh, it's all manipulated. It's all fake. It's not fake. The emotions in the behaviors that you see people exhibit are real. But there's a mean geppetto don't ever worry about a season not being the most dramatic season of Bachelorette ever,

and they always you'll always be taken care of. Okay, So we're gonna dive in because we've got a lot to get through. So we have Kendall arriving. Joe is with Serena on the day bed. She walks up and she goes, hey, butt head. Joe had a huge smile. He says, want to go talk. She goes. She goes

by the way. We were trying to figure out if they were caps, and we had somebody email us that that was a dentist and she thinks that they're his natural teeth that have been bleached, that have been overly bleached. That is from um, that's that's from there. You go. So then so then they go good to so then so then all of us go through a little bit of what happened. They go, good to see you, you too, You look good? Yeah, you look good. Um, so they do a big hug. So then he asked her, are

you okay. She's like, I'm okay. I'm not gre I'm not awful because I feel like you're okay. I'm surprised you're this okay. And he's like, look when I got here, I was ready to leave. I forgot this is the place that Kendall and I fall in love. Um. But um, she's and she's like, look the conversations I want to have with you or the conversations I've been avoiding, and um, people are asking Meanwhile, Serena if she's okay, She's like,

everyone has exes, but it's a lot. So then Joe says to Kendall like, look, we were really in love, but it hadn't been easy. Um. She's like, look, it's been really difficult for me not to have you part of my life. And then it basically it turns out it's like we broke up because of logistics and uh. And she was like I was terrified. Why has it been so hard to ignore me? And he's like wow, wow, wow, wow wow lady, this is not what happened. You would not come to Chicago. It's like I didn't want to

live it too. He's like, okay, so what are we doing here? She gets hard for me. So so it turns out all that. Now I'm gonna start with Nikki because you know, Joe, I saw your heart. Your heart really hurt when I brought this stop talked. I know Kendall and Joe. I originally met Kendall. She was my art director for not Safe, my Comedy Central show. She was she would buy the dildo, she would design the

sets that we would um, you know, shoot on. She was she was just this really hot, cute, quiet, sweet girl that worked on my show. And then she Everyone's in love with her. By the way, on on my show, everyone was just like obsessed with her and she's so even me. I was just like, she's a doll. Then she gets on the show. You know, they end up together. I do Dancing with the Stars Grocery Shore. Joe is

on my season of Dancing with the Stars with me. Um. He lasts way longer than I give voted off first. He continues going on even though he's a worst dancer than I was by far, but you know he's at ABC. Darling. ABC decided, you know, we don't really like this girl that kicked me off UM, that that show is less about dancing and more about ABC developing talent, and like saying, who would we like to see more of our on our network and they say not not I And so

they kept around Joe. He's so sweet, He's just and I think that I am all team Joe ever since the first episode when he was like really struggling with the Kendall stuff and they I was watching the captions and I remember one point he's just like and I said, like, blows raspberry and he's just like and it was just quiet, and I was like, oh my god, and he was

just he was so vulnerable. I just felt like, this is a guy that's like, this is why I want to watch a Bachelor with people in their thirties, because these people are just older and not not as full of shit and not and and really actually wants something. He wants step kids, he wants to have a family.

So anyway, by the time it gets to Kendall coming back, I just or coming in today on this episode that I just watched, Um, I was just so scared because I know he's so into Serena, and I just know men, and I know that the new thing is always going to be more exciting, even if you still have loved for the old old relationship. And Kendall is still in love with him clearly, and then he has that sound bite of I don't know if I'm still in love. Third, I just don't know, and it's not gonna be good.

He's definitely Serena. I want him with Serena. I don't want him to go back with Kendall. No, like they broke up. I love Serena. I love that Canadian. Jerry, who are you rooting for? How did you feel? Who are you rooting for? Well? That was a lot to unpack everything that Nicky said because she's friends with him now and now I feel like I can't go hard. Yeah. No, I I half agree with things Nikki said and I half hard disagree. His attitude at the beginning when he

was moping around really put me off. I was like, and there's a thing about him that I feel like led to him in Kendall's demise as a relationship, he strikes me as the guy he wanted to move to Chicago, So if you work backwards from there, it's like, I'm the guy that didn't like it or couldn't hack it in l A. And I want to go back to the place where I was the big dog and everybody loves my ship and she didn't want to go, and so he's like, well, I can't deal with this place,

so I'm gonna go, is what it seems like. And it felt like that in the first step in that in those first moments where he was moping around, it's like, oh, I'm the thirty five year old and that's considered old,

which just blows my mind. But then all these young, hot, ripped up dudes and girls are there and he feels like and he's using the this is where I fell in love with Kendall excuse, but really it's like, mmmm, I think this is just another like insecurity thing where you're not the hottest guy on the beach right now, and so you're uncomfortable with this and you don't know. If I see Katie Levin shaking her head, Kati, I'm going to the production team, Katie tanned to you, guys,

I I agree. I I mean, I kind of Yeah, I agree with Nikki. I disagree with Damn it a tough time. It's he just seems like the type of guy. He was like, very Chicago, very family oriented. He's like, I want to be by my family. I don't think it was like an ego thing. I think maybe he just wanted to be by his family, not ego insecurity. I mean maybe a little bit, but I mean, you know,

sometimes people, I don't think he ever wanted to be famous. Yeah, it's just he's thirty five, dude, he's like, you know, a little older. He's like because his producers can talk you into anything. Reality show producers can get anyone to do anything. So they wanted him on the show. They called him, they were like, it's gonna be great. And he got there and was like, oh, not like being around him. And I don't know final answer, but he doesn't. When he was on an Answering to the Stars, he

wasn't trying to get camera time. He's not a guy that wants to be famous. I don't think he's kind of like always begrudgingly in the spotlight. He's my assessment, but maybe you know, it's it's okay. Dr Banana I saw her hand. I was just gonna say I I agree with Nikki, Like it feels like he at first

it was exciting because you're like this new world. You're thrilled, and then next thing you know, he's like, oh ship, Like now I'm here, and I actually like people want something for me, and I'm the cameras are on me and I have to like be a person that's on the camera. And now like I'm back at Paradise and I feel like it was fun at first and then it all hit him and now he's just like, I gotta go back to Chicago. I'm gonna have a little

bit of my sentinels back here. I have to have I gotta be a little team sentinel in the man box. I feel like he there was a part of me that's like, if you don't want to be back in why are you on TV again? And I kind of agree with with that. He was like a hot commodity. And we've seen this almost like in Deemi, where people come in where they killed it on their first season in Paradise and then they come in I think you

only get one season of your cantillion. You get one round of the heavy season and even if you were like the jewel of the season, like the Bridgerton lady whatever, like you get the duke, and let's say it doesn't work out with the duke, you can't go back. You will not be the jewel of the season season two, and you're going to feel insecure. As per Jerry, now he was the ship season one. Season two, he's like, wait, nobody's into me. And then he's pounding around the beach

a little bit. But they were so mean to him that first day when they said we're calling you Jim Joe or whatever because you dressed like you came from the gym. And he's like, oh, like a guy that wants to be cool does not wear those kinds of clothes. But then they also don't want to be for it. To your point to what you guys are saying, remember that line, remember that line from the movie Singles that

you have no game is your game? That's yeah, there's a guy who whitens his teeth, not care about what people think that teeth. That's a great point. Katie Leavie and Katie's coming in hot I see her lady or get to get a haircut, though, I mean and he and he did wear pets and sandals, and I do think that his whole thing is I'm the anti candidate, Like he even says it in this episode. He's like, don't come here with an agenda. It's like, what are you gonna do? And it's like that he knows what

he's doing, like planned. I also I'm also with my sweet Nikki G. Where my sweet Nikki G. But I'm also half with you, Santony. I'm full, like I'm torn because my my first instinct is to go with the sentinel. I'm distrustful, like it's the Dancing with the Stars of it all. Why is this your fourth season? Why not? Because he is directionless arden He doesn't know what he wants in the world, and reality shows are what people go to when they have nothing on no other plan.

Okay too, Earnest, did they get paid to me on the show Paradise? They do? They do not mean the main That's another thing too, Like you know, maybe paid in Mimosa is an STDs. That's what I got paid in Hawaii. Thank you. It's great, nice, it's great, But can we all just say the way that Joe or like maybe agree upon this the way that Joe handled the Serena p and the Kendall thing of it all was honest and like up front and classy, and the

way that Brendan should have handled Natasha. It was. He was honest with Kendall, and he was honest with even on his one well you know his interviewer, he said, I don't know if I'm in love with her, and then he was honest with Serena about I don't want to lie to you, this is the situation. And I thought that was just really showed, like that's a thirty five year old man on this show. I agree with you, and as that's why I'm loving my sweet Kenny. My number one used to be defended, but I'm now I'm

all in on that boy band. I never was Kenny. I like that his profession was boy band cover band manager and now was just forty year old Kenny's my number one. Great break, Dr Banana, Katie, Everybody, how do we think this is gonna end up? Who is going to be the one who ends up with Joe? Nikki? I mean I said it before. Guys are always going to go for the new exciting thing. Um, Kendall is bringing a lot of drama. Guys do not want a

conversation Serena. Serena Pe is being very like lax and just like go with the flow, and she's kind of acting like fine, if you don't want me, I don't want to. Great energy. She's going to win in the end. Okay, Katie Levaine, who's gonna take it? Who's taken the grocery store Joe's teeth whitening challenge? I think last week I said Kendall, but now I'm thinking Serena. I think they just really got I think I like the little tag at the end, like they're clearly cute, they get along.

I also I just really quick one to agree with Nikki. He handled it so well. And I also like that he gave Serena an out. He gave her such a clear out, like this is gonna get messy if you don't want to to the veil, I understand. I thought that was so responsible, respectful and mature of him, like give me thirty five and older and on that. Okay, Tanna, who's getting the teeth whitening strip? I think it's no, And I was hoping it was Serena because I think

when Kendall again. Create like the argument came back up where she's like, it's a no, I will never go to Chicago. I think in that moment he was like, and then this is just I can't happen. By the way, Chicago is a great I would go to Chicago. I would too. I love Chicago. Chicago so many talented people. Nobody gives a fuck. I loved it. Jerry Traynor, Yes, who's getting the teeth whitening stripe Serena for everything that

everybody already said. Kendall came and it was like they just it was like, oh, we're just gonna rehash the same fight. And I feel like the producers wanted it's like a red herring. They want us to think, Oh my god, is he going to ditch Serena to go

back to end. No, he's not all right. And I'm learning so much about men and how to like this show is helping me so much and and really re um just reinforcing all of the things I've learned from reading so many books about male behavior and female behavior and how you have to trick a man into loving you, and because men just are the way they are and we have to change the way we act to get them. You don't. You just sit there and relax, Jerry, girls are gonna you. Called Getting to I Do by Dr

Pat Allen. It is one of the best books I've found for recommending to women who want to get engaged or get a man to commit that you're sleeping with and you're like, why doesn't he like me? It's like Serena p Is following exactly this. She is being feminine energy, really like cool, like not having a lot of thoughts, like not having a lot of like I think this and I want this. It's it's about like I don't

want this. She's just speaking what she doesn't want. Men like women with boundaries and not telling being told what to do. And they like easy, they like new, They like a girl they haven't had sex with. And I hate to just say that Joe is gonna choose her.

He hasn't had sex with Serena P yet, And the mystery and the desire to want to put your penis in something you haven't had your penis and yet is far more enticing, even if the deep connection that he and Kendall have isn't there with Serena Pe pussy is new. Pussy is always gonna win, especially with a spark that's gonna buye Demi back because of the boom boom room that's gonna buy she needs to read that book, so

fucking bad this girl. We're gonna take a quick break and when we come back, we're going to talk about fresh pie. Here we go. Oh my god, did not know? They did not? Oh? Yes they did, And we're back, all right. I just wanted to say before we keep going easing into our next couple. I loved the tag at the end. I love when she was feeding him and then they had a kiss and he said, Abigail, Joe, that was funny. That was funny. It was good. So now we're gonna talk a little bit about Noah and Abigail.

We're just having a little almouse bouche, a little palette cleanser between the high drums, himity draw with three major couple of dramas. So this is not it, alright, So we've got no One Abigail. He's wearing eighteen necklaces. He's like, oh, he just gets more and more beautiful. I mean I would wear any of those gold pendants. Does he not get them all tangled. Anyone that wears multi. I have two on tonight and they I'm only wearing two today because I slept with these both on and I can't

get them apart from each other. Rings get tangled. I don't even understand it. What do you have you travel with them? I need? I need tips. Joe truly his gore, like because they're also at a beach, Like does he go in the sea? I was just in the ocean. When necklaces, it's his gorgeous stacked necklace situation. I whoever is styling him, I want to know that necklace collection, because it's really it's he just gets more bedulled. It's a little David Koreshi. It's it's a little other reference.

He wouldn't understand. I remember when David Spade goes look in Miami Vice tonight and he just laughed like nervously, like no, when there is old enough to know what

the hell that want? Being single for the first time in my adult life, I recently was hit on by a twenty five year old and somehow I say Sandra Bullock and that he responded, I think I've heard of her, WHOA well, you know what if that doesn't make you realize all of this is bullshit, because what don't we all anyone who's aspiring to fame, don't we want Sandra Bullocks level of fame. You're gonna be forgotten no matter who you are, people are gonna it doesn't matter. Here

was the story. So this is about our sweet Brian Sofie. Okay, So this young man had gotten a tattoo. He was like, he had gotten an ill advised tattoo in his teenage years that was a Chinese character and it ended up not being what he thought it was. Turns out, our sweet Brian Sofie of this podcast of Attitudes of Groceries, we love rid Toffee. I learned in Rhode Island when I was traveling with him. He has a tattoo that

he got he thought when he was in college. He thought it was an Asian tattoo that said hero, and then he later on found him that said Hope floats, which is like the Harry. Oh my god, Yes, he's got an Asian Wope floats. That the Chinese symbol for hope. I think it's better. I'm gonna say, I think that's better than Hero. Was like, so that I was telling this kid. I was telling this kid about the Hope Floats tattoo. Not only had he not heard of Hope Floats.

I was like, oh, I wish I understand. I was like, okay, but like it was like, hey, Sandra bull like and he goes, oh, I think I per And that's when I thought, I can't. I can't do that. I'm not doing this, which he has a Hope Floats this tattoo, and he had never had someone say there's a moon that was Brian that you're doing the story of. Because the kid also had one that he was different than what he thought. They both had symbols that were not

what they thought was your new boyfriend's tattoo. I can't even. I was so once I heard. Once I heard that he thought he'd heard of Sandra Bullock, I just blacked out. It was supposed to say faith, but it's it really meant fifty first dates and Paul Blart mal oh my god symbol for mall secure and what's his name? Kevin James? Okay, so here we are here, we are Noah Abigail and um, they're like, how are you feeling? He's like, well, my guard's been up. I just felt like I wasn't getting

much in return. She's think, I will work on communication. I want to try to do better. Do you want to be the power couple of the beach again, Yeah, let's be beach Royalty. And then they like actually had a pretty good kiss. Jerry, how do you feel about Abigail and Noah? How are you feeling about that kiss? How do you feel about all of his jewelry? They just seem I hate the jewelry they see Abigail solve Noah. I don't get him completely. He's a nurse, right, and

he's very religious, correct, very religious. I would have thought more guys would have gone for Abigail because she's such a CUTEI pie, I thought she would Jerry, would you have made a move on Abigail? She's gorgeous, she's cool, she's sweet. But the thing she does wrong, in my opinion, is she her guard is far too high for Bachelor in Paradise. In my opinion, she's there's no spark there,

and I think she's a little guarded. And it's like, no, this isn't bachelor or bachelorette, this is Paradise, Like you need to go hard to the yard. You need to go all in. You need to start making out like horny musical sorny musical chairs. You need to start getting horny like really quick. You gotta get you gotta get that hot to prny musical chairs, Nigga Glazier, How are

you feeling about this duo? Man? I was kind of like always on my phone when they were on the screen because it's their just bore me and it's too safe. And I think that's her problem is it just is too easy to save all those things, which indicates probably a good relationship. Right. But um with Noah w w j D, what would jewelry do? He? Um, it makes sense, he's religious, makes sense, he's a nurse. He to me

just seems like a child. He did even on UM I guess claritatious season whatever when he was originally on. He just seems like a little lost boy. And UM, I don't take him seriously. It's just when I see guys like that on the show, I just I'm like, I don't care. I just I'm out. I don't care what happens with you, Abigail, you should probably run. Um.

I don't think they're gonna be together forever. He's just there's there's so much immaturity on the show, especially from the men, and it really, um, I'm projecting a lot from my past experiences, but he just seems to be um just not emotionally, uh like equipped enough to handle anything. I don't know. I just I just don't care about him. Is that an answer? That's fine? I would say, I am not He's no, he's not my boyfriend Kenny, and he's not my other boyfriend grocery store job um or

my former boyfriend who's now super villain Brendan. But I could have been tricked into making out with I could have been tricked into making out with Noah, like what, he's so cute and and then I would have regretted it. I would have kissed him and been bored by it and then avoided him at the breakfast bar, you know

what I mean. I would have been like sucked in and been like he's so cute and made out with him, and then like never wanted to kiss And he's the kind of guy that doesn't know how to play cool. So after you made out the next day at the breakfast war, he would have been staring at you too much, and you would have felt it and you would have been like played a little bit cool dude, and he just like makes puppy dog eys. Boys don't like that.

They want they want what they can't have to. And I think that's what Abigail's kind of like pushing against is, like you're too easy? Would you get Katie Tanna? Would you guys have made out with Noah and then ghosted him at the breakfast bar? There's a lot of heat on the jewelry, but I'm Persian, so I'm loving it little more. Gold Down Baby, I'll marry you in a second, yes, Tata, Okay? So Katie, would you make out with him and then

goes to him at the breakfast bar? Um? I don't know, Like there's some some part of me that's attracted to him, but I can't tell you why. But then there's another part of me that just doesn't trust him at all. I'm very inflicted on Noah. I don't know how to feel about him, because like he hasn't really done anything terrible to make me dislike him, but there's just something about him that I can I wouldn't make out with him I don't want to go to the boom boom

room with him. Speaking of the boom boom room, anybody wouldn't know what he was doing in there at all. No, my number So now my new surprise number one is Kenny. And here we are Marie the maniac that is Mari, who needs to read Nikki's books, really not played it cool. Every aspect of Mari. Mari is the beautiful lady Marie Marie. She just Kenny wells all in him, Mari. Kenny came here. Kenny did not want the situation. He's forty, he's a professional, forty year old. He knew, like you get all in

grass is not always green nerve. That's what you learned when you're a boyband cover band manager named Kenny with a a tattoo like Ben Affleck's back to divorce back tattoo. But he's got it all like all over his front. It's amazing. So Maury's upset and she's like, she's like, I hope Tia and Kenny don't hit it off. It's like, well they're making out at nude volleyball right now. She's like, I feel have feelings for him. I miss him, so

then they walk him, Maury grabs grabs him. Uh meanwhile insane. Demi is like furious, She's pissed. Maury's like, I still really like you. It's hard for me. I have feelings for you. I hate what happened. Demi is like fucking enraged, and she's like, I feel so much flipping. I just feel like. So Kenny's talking to Maury, He's like, you're going from one extreme to the next. He basically to each woman, he goes, you know what, let's talk tomorrow.

Let's talk tomorrow. And then Demi goes now, he's like right now, and he's like, yeah, I want to go to the bummer right now. And he's like I don't want to go to sleep. And then he's She's like, fuck yo, fuck yo. Fuck I am Demi. I was the coolest girl on the beach last year. I fucked over Derek. I got engaged to a woman, fuck yo, and like and then um, She's like, I think Mari sucks. I think she's mean, I think she's a bratt, I think she's entitled, and I don't like her. How do

you feel about Tia? Did you have fun? And so basically each person He's like, let's talk tomorrow. Let's talk tomorrow. I'm gonna start with Nicki, Nicki, I love Kenny, talk to me. I. Um. The issue is is so I'm like learning some of this for the first time. I don't know where I was during this episode, waves A why dot? What's Marie's deal with him? Has she flipped

on him? Marie and Kenny were a couple and then she goes and then somebody walked in and she wanted to be able to go out with him, and she didn't feel like she could. So then she was like, I wanted it was chasing Chris showed up, Yeah, and She's like, I want to be able to go out with other people. He's like, so wait, so well, that means you don't want to be with The grass is

not always green. So she basically Kenny was all in on her and they were a couple, and she like broke up with him and then like back pedaled when Chason didn't pick her. Jerry, would you guys brush her off? If you were Kenny, how would you handle this? Who would get your final Roasteth Kenny or Mari? Well, Kenny, Kenny's playing it the exact right way. He's not over

promising anyway. I think the guys. Look, I've never seen this show before, and the thing that really bothers me is the guys that over commit and they overpromised that they go, I'm all in on you, and then you know someone's going to show up that you like better. So just don't do that, like be like, yeah, I'm interested in seeing where this goes. Mari screwed up, like she left up hard by going, I want to be open, but I didn't expect you to want to be open.

And it's like, well, yeah, you said that. You told me, you told Demi that you wanted to date other people, so now I'm dating Demi and Demi knows exactly how this game is played. I don't know. He's just doing fine. He's doing just fine to me, what do you have gone to the boom boom room with DEMI? Don't ask me that question, Nikki, sweet sweet nicky Gee. I want to please. I want to plead the fifth on this. Absolutely.

I would have a guy saying let's talk in the morning, and like not being into like turning you down for sex or turning you down to have a conversation is the hottest thing you can possibly do is say this and I need to go talk think about it and like reject you a little bit. I mean, this guy has these girls eaten out of the palms. I thought you were talking about when they initially went to the boom.

He's doing it great because a that screws everything up, like Nikki saying, if he goes to the boom room room, he's less valuable to them, to her, but not only to her, to them, to Marie, to Tilla, like he has to be he has to be able to say that to them. She wanted me to go to the boom boom room and I said now, and it's like they're like what She also, he also seems afraid of Demi.

He should be. He should be. Yeah, I mean when he said the piece of the phrase, DEMI wants to wear my head, cut my hat off and where my face is a mask not a good sign. That's not that's not the it's good for peptides though, like she might that might be her skin regimen four year old men's faces as their mass. It's better than a vitamin C serum. I gotta tell you, I feel like Kenny

believe it or not. It's very evolved and like very upfront and a good guy and very articulate, Katie, I see you drinking it in his free floating feelings around Kenny the boy band cover band four year old manager. I think he's the most mature guy there. I really love him. I love him, I mean maybe, I mean I think, I mean, I get that he slept with DEMI like, I understand whatever, why not? But who cares?

But like, I mean, Mari was an idiot for doing that, especially before Chason even asked her, Like what was that? I play it out, see what see what happens. But um, yeah, he's been handling it well. And he's also been honest with everyone and very direct and he explains things like very clearly, and I just I really respect that about him. He's putting it all out there physically and like he

came in naked and his like his emotions are naked too. Yes, she's he says, DEMI works, DEMI possibly wants to cut my throat and where my head is a mask? Incredible quote. Incredible quote. Meanwhile, Thomas was juggling for Ken doll Um. Any final thoughts on Kenny Tanna talked to. I just want to say I thought it was the most relatable thing where he's like, I think I need to just

go to bed. But we we learned from Lance mass the reason that they're not at the Rose ceremony, guys, is because the Rose ceremonies are often at five or six in the morning. They have them all night. So that's why David Spade and Lance peel out and a free night. Yeah, get some get some rest. Here we go. All right, we're gonna take a quick break and then we're gonna get into the most exciting storyline that's ever been on television. Batchel Villain and Money the Grandfollowers. We're back,

all right, here we are. We finally made it. This is what had everybody across the world screaming at their television's last night. Here we go, buckling. Natasha and Brendan finally kissed last week. So they've been hanging out for weeks and not kissed. Like what love Natasha. She's adorable, she's a babe, she's a sweetie pie. I always enjoyed Brendan, but I did not like the rumors of the Piper,

and I didn't understand why he wasn't kissing her. Um. So then he's talking about how all these dudes are not locked in, they're all lame, They're all like they stay. And then she's like, well, are you would you do that? Would you go out with somebody? He was like, Oh, I would never do that. I'd be awful at it. I'm not a good liar. Incomes Piper from Matt season. Um, she's here to see Brendan. She does a fingers cross thing and she just makes a beeline right in there

for Brendan. Natasha is stoic. She's um he and we see clips of him saying to Natasha from the past, I've had deeper conversations with you. Then with Piper like a full piece of ship, he was a full piece of ship. So then she he and we also see him say I would never go on a date if somebody asked me to go on a date. We saw them moments before this. She walks in and immediately goes, um, Brendon, but you go on a date with me? Yes. So

then it's pouring rain and um. He pulls Natasha aside and he's like, look, I don't know, it's a coincidence. We're both here. You know, it's that word. It's a coincidence. I won't to explore like you know, and she's like, well, why would you come here if you were already seeing each other? Like it's just an opportunity of deeper conversations like I've had with you does to see what we have.

I need to explore this. It's a coincidence. So then basically we watch it actually shows that Greg is a better actor than we thought on the last season because the worst actor. You see him trying to tell her with cameras on Natasha's cry. He's he shows up back in his chain and his mock turtleneck, back in his official uniforms, sweating, sweating like a Jesus. And he's like, well, you know I told her I was hoping to pick things up where it was pushed forward. You know, I was.

I had a lot of girls were interested in talking to me. We had fun together, good conversation. Um, he goes, girls probably thought that I was waiting for you, but you know, I'm not exclusive, nothing promised, and she was like, what the funk? You downplayed it like she was an idiot. She got all upset. So he basically on camera had to go. Look, no, remember it's the deal, just like

we all agreed upon. I did what I had to do to keep you going so we can build what we want to build as Yes, she's like, you know, no, I I contained it. I contained what had to be done. I had to navigate. I couldn't say that I had a full girlfriend to go into Paradise. It's not a good look. I had to navigate this in a way that I would allow myself to be here while you're here. She says, thanks for playing the game. Um, he said, I'm sad that you thought I was. Didn't mean it.

You know how I feel about you. You trust what we had prior to this. We have to have each other's backs. We can get through this and utilize this time here to get what Paradise will promote for us together. And then and then she says, he is my boyfriend. We were dating and and basically and they just are like making out there on the daybed. His like, Mike is on there in a full relationship. He goes, he's route in Natasha. He's like and he's saying to her, look,

nobody wanted her, nobody wanted her. I took the grenade. I took the grenade. It's not like she was beating him off of the stick. He's like, I'm so annoyed by her. They were a couple. She felt like a casualty. And then she was like, so you're just here so you can be on TV. He called it a friendship, a major distraction. And he said that you have selective hearing. And then she said, are you here just because of the TV show? Uh? And uh we find out she

came up to Boston. She's a liar and uh. And he goes, if any guy had any desire to talk to you, they would have. I don't think I held you back and um, and then we see her. Then we see Piper saying I'm up to seventy eight thousand followers. And he's like, good, good, good. You were mentioned on us weekly. That's good. And then your names amount that'll get you more followers. Anyone that follows them, un followed them, please. I know I wanted to go follow then unfollow to wait,

I am following Brendon. Let me unfollow him right now? Okay, I'm follow them. If you're firing fuck them, you're getting see the fuck them. They were such pieces of ship. He was so rude to her. They were so obvious about it. The cameras are on, he's tapping his microphone. This was such cruelty. It was so deliberate. They're so clearly there just to get all the I hope they get kicked off next week. I hated this. They're they're cruelty and they're obvious. I hope it bites them back

and they get kicked off. We've okay, who wants to go first? I just have a question. This is what I wanted to ask at the beginning when you asked Nikki Sweet Nikki Gee about you know, like the producers knowing, and she said something to the effect of, you know, the producers know and orchestrate a lot. And I've never seen Bachelor in Paradise And I was like, Okay, this is villainous on a on a new level that I've never seen. Oh yeah, we've never had We've never had

a nice guy like but never the producers orchestrated this. Then, is this not like who's yeah, they're everyone. So if we hate Piper and Brendan, is that not character assassination by the producers? Did they orchestra they did it. They did Katie Katie Levine needs to talk, so the producers will ask them coming in, who do you want to meet? Because we know this because of Justina and Chris. She kept saying Chris was on my list. Yes, But but

they might have lied to the producers. They might have just been like, oh, I'm really interested in Piper and maybe they even said, oh, we've like talked a little bit on on d m s Like who knows. They might have downplayed it, but clearly they were, you know, scheming together. But the producers might not have known that. But what the producers love to do anyways, is like what they did with Justina and Chris, they have just Senya come on and they're like, oh, we're gonna bring

this dude on. She hello Lex two weeks later, just to see what happens, just to cause drama. The producers might not have known the extent that this that this was going into, but they did it to create drama definitely. And like the Kendall and Joe's situation, they were both sign up for the show at the same time. They held off Kendall so that Joe would have a relationship. They probably knew that based on what Joe likes that Serena, that he would find someone in that batch of girls

and give him enough time to create a relationship. Bring in Kendall. I mean, because Kendall just sat way around for them to call her to come in. She could have been there the first day, but she wasn't so that Joe could find someone. And they gave them last week, that extra day at the wrestling match to really lock it in before the week, but they knew they waited till it was really locked. They held her till it was the deal was sealed. I see Katie wanting to

get in again, and then we'll go to Tanna. Okay, Tanna. I was just gonna say, amazing television. I'm sorry it was really dark, but wow, I was incredible and was like, I am a meme right now. I am enjoying this so much. This is amazing. I am shocked every three seconds. Brendan Piper, Holy sh it, what are you guys doing. I loved it. I'm gonna just say I also loved it. And I want to say I loved my Brendan. I loved my Brendan. I've texted to Nikki about Brendan. I

love my Massachusetts accent. He seemed sweet. I loved his delicate nature. I loved how much he loved his niece and nephew. I loved hit the fact that he was a roofer and he's such a fucking piece of ship. It's a sociopath. He's like such garbage. We've never had such a sweetie pie like Greg. I didn't trust Greg from the moment he showed up with that noodle necklace. I knew Greg was a little pieces. I knew it.

I love that moment. I love that moment that Brendan was talking to Natasha and he's like, you know, we've had their We've had our silly moments down on the beach or goof arounds, and I'm like this, this guy's never been silly in his life. This is the most unsilly, ungoofy person I've ever met. What the hell are you talking about? He fooled all. I felt like, oh, I can still get played like no, and I get Nikki, I'm gonna sound so not like it took me a

second when I started watching. I'm so enjoying and everybody needs to watch, and then you need to listen along on page on which I was like, I didn't understand the difference between a player and an F boy, right, But it feels like Brendan is the definition of an F boy because they trick you, right, But yes, it's

the deceit. You know, a guy can be a nice guy if he likes sleeping with a lot of women, if he's just honest that he doesn't want a relationship and that he doesn't trick women into thinking there's something more that John Mayer, like a John Mayor or like like that guy, someone who is openly like non monogamous and doesn't try to get women into bed by promising things that they can't. You know that the woman they know the woman once, right, So Brendan Brendan is a

classic F boy that no one really saw coming. But and I didn't see coming either. What I didn't like about him at the point that we were texting where you were like, I'm I think he's the he's cute or whatever, and I was like, of course, Like that's why I follow him. He's so I followed him on Tatious season, like that guy's hot. Maybe he'll see me follow him. I got a blue checkmark. Maybe something'll strike up here. Um. And but then there's the way he

handled in Natasha thing. I just early on him not touching her him. I just knew that there was something shady going on there, that he was placating and just having a placeholder. And I could tell that he thinks he's hot, ship he would not if he's not getting the girl that he wants, Like, he just didn't seem so into her, so he wouldn't even have her around. This guy only wants to be the best and knows how hot he is. He's a model, and so it

just felt fake to me. And this guy tells even when he was with Piper on the date, and she kind of goes, wait a second, you're saying that there was a miscommunication of She's kind of being like, aren't we together? And he's like, you know, he's still playing the game. I even think in that moment he was giving her what she wanted. And then he was like, I think he's playing Piper too, to be honest with you,

and everyone's gonna get hurt. And the thing overhearing them talking about followers was so disgusting, and she was so embarrassed, even though let me just say blanket statement. As much as he has lied, the honesty about wanting to be on the show to gain followers from those two is probably the most honest thing there. Because you are not going on Bachelor Baradise to find love that there's many other ways. Stop it. You're going on this show because you want followers and you want to be on TV.

Or you're like grocery store Joe and you and have like a really direction in life and you're like, oh, this thing's fun. Okay, That's that's what I was saying earlier of like to actually have Instagram the the you know, the elephant in the room being acknowledged as a character on the show. It's like New York City and Sex in the City. Yeah, thank you, It's exactly it. To

have it be called out, it's so meta. It's so eating its own tail, Like there was something so seeing the man behind It's like in the Hills at the end when the final episode where they saw that the camera crew in the sets of like they've been playing like just to see them acknowledge it in the game of It, Katie Levine, I know you're dying to get in there. I need to give you room to speak,

take it away, Katie Levine. So I rewatched it this morning, and it was so much worse, like the second time around, seeing him like talking to Natasha earlier in the day and he is like you can tell Nikki like he is playing her because he's not being real, like he's being very standoffish, like they're not touching. It's weird, but like the whole I mean, it's just it's disgusting, and him touching the mic trying to like scratch match the

mics that you can't hear. And the one time they clearly had a boom somewhere or hanging Mike somewhere because like Mike wasn't even on, but he like thought it wasn't like I think they and then him just being like, oh, I've dug myself to the whole fuck it, like he just didn't care, but like it was just bad guy. It's just so weird because it was like it's not a good guy. No, he was to get away with it.

But then he also at one point was like I've dug myself deep enough, and they're just like we'll just be hated together. That's right. But that's my question is what are the consequences to this? Are there any This hasn't happened yet. You lose a follower, they lost lost, He lost like fifty thousand followers just last night. She and I'm going to look up the down she went down, I mean, and then Natasha. As of last night they lost, she had gained seventy five thousand followers. I'll look it up.

I'll look it up to follow Natasha. I really hope they get Natasha. I'm sorry, I was sinking. Piper okay good, unfollowed Piper, unfollowed, unfollowed Brendan and then follow um follow Natasha. You have to remember that when he showed up on the island, he was America's most wanted. Every girl was like, your eyes, you're gorgeous, Like, there's no way this dude did not know. He told her. He said to her, they all wanted me, he said it, And I'm sorry.

But through this process he has turned into like faces of math in terms of his like he keeps getting thinner and like more like beef up, Like he's getting grosser looking because his inner like cd F point is is coming out. He doesn't look that like a sick. Give me Kenny or give me death can Okay? I was just really quickly gonna say. He posted a photo of himself and the caption is here for the wrong reasons, and he posted it. He's trying to he's trying to

lean into it and be funny. You're not funny, bro. Here's the thing I hated him. I'm here's here's the thing you fell for Arden. This is the red flag that I had with him at the beginning. Whenever a dude is just just speaks in vagaries and it's noncommittal and doesn't really say anything and just seems kind of emotionless.

You're projecting whatever you want onto this blank canvas. And now you see the real him when him and Natasha are sitting there and she's calling she's caught him in the lie, like you're a liar, and he goes, I thought we had something. She's like, no, it was fucked, and he's like, okay, fine, it's fucked. Like that's the real hints like I don't care about but I don't care about women, when basically what he's all about sucked.

When he went back and he said, I was so annoyed by just his cruelty of saying, it's not like guys were coming after you. Oh. I felt so bad for Annatasha watching that with America as she happened to be at home watching here's the thing for the women of America. Let me just tell you something. It is very scary and hard to be open and honest from a man's perspective. If you have a man that has the bravery to do it with you, that's a that is so that is a rarity like Kenny and Joe,

these guys that are speaking openly and honestly. But this is these guys that are just like, yeah, I don't know. They're cowards. And that's the problem is they don't respect you. They don't respect you enough to be brave for you. They're just cowards and they're trying just want to give the girl. These guys you see it. I've seen it in my own relationships with men, and I don't even like they just give you what you want. And I'm I'm I can only see this because I do it myself.

I want. I'm such a people pleaser and I desire everyone to like me because I have low self esteem that sometimes when I'm infirm someone I just want to give them what they want, you know, like what they want me to be. I just want to be that and like make the situation calm down, like make them like me and feel like, oh, and then I relax. You can see Brendan when he's being confronted by Natasha before he goes on the date with Piper, when they

have that talk. When he's about to go, there's an angst in him, and then he pacifies her with a bunch of lies that he himself maybe believes honestly, like I have a good connection with you, all the stuff, and then you see him just calm down, like I'm okay, and then he goes on the date. Then Piper has wait a second, you said this, and he starts to get nervous again, and then he tells her no, no, no no, no, I'm just gonna tell you whatever you want to know,

and then it calms down and he can breathe. And the thing about Natasha is like, I hope that she learned from this, and I learned from this watching this that when you're not getting what you need in relationship, he's not touching you, he's not like there's a reason for that, and it's like, if it's difficult, he's not into you and you need If Natasha would have been like, no this, I'm not feeling this by instead of sticking around and waiting for the crumbs, it would have maybe

even made him pursue her in a way that would have thwarted the Piper hope flow floats just central bolic. I don't know, Katie. Katie and Tanna talked to us. We quickly want to say, I don't trust Piper in this either, because she also twenty three hours ago posted a selfie and the caption is all's fair in love and war with her? What a crown, I'm going to what a clown from day one, I think they are in it to win it. I hope they cut them next. I hope that they kick them off they want to.

And then Brendan Okay, So, according to the most recent data three hours ago, Brendan lost thirty seven point six thousand followers. I lost like five thousand, and then Tasha gained a hundred and five thousand. Natasha Parker, I'm gonna follow her right now, all right? Is there anything that we want to say before we come back and do Twitter to weeks there's anything about anybody. Uh, we haven't seen much from Becca from the Bachelorette coming back in

coming in hot, big strong entrance. I'm hoping she has sort of like a a big storyline coming. It seems like she has unfortunately goes on dates with like Aaron and Thomas, which makes me think the broken picker is hers that she ended up with Garrett. Like, it's not that she might have a bad taste. Who. Here's a question that we didn't really touch on. Who do you think in the big triangle, who do you think Kenny picks Mari, Demi or Tilla. It looks coming up like

she's kissing Mari. I hope he picks Tia. I would pick Tia. Interesting. I think he's gonna go Mari her honey pot. Have you um, Natasha Parker her China Potasha Parker? Is this her? Yes? I'm following right now. Okay, great? I just that is just that that and then I got eight thousand more And like since I like said that to you, like it went from seventy seventy. It's just like, you know what, we all are susceptible to

Instagram and the likes and the numbers and stuff. Don't ever say it out loud, don't say don't make sure there's no microphones at Mike going going, Okay, so when you were mentioned in US Weekly, that was cool, and then you've been mentioned a lot here, so you've your name that they'll definitely get followers because people your name is. I've scratched a mic before when I'm miked up, but it's because I'm farting. Yeah, Like, it's not because i'm it's it's because i'm you know, having to do to

clear something out. And also this was like, you know what, I felt like I felt the same excitement as watching the Jinks, you know when they catch bathroom Like it was my Jinks energy, like like revealing a true nature of someone that you suspect. It was so good, kill

them all good. And these producers set them literally were like, oh yeah, okay, so you you're hoping to see Piper, who you've casually met then, because it felt like they truly didn't know they were like because I think they thought they were Mike, but I think they thought the producers were on their side and helping them because I think that one shot where saying like who else would have picked her. He's clearly talking to a producer because

they're not showing the other side. They thought the producers were helping them and have their back. Yes, you know, no one on these shows ever feels like the producers are against them, truly, and that's you know, so that you know producers are working for these people, and you you want them, even when they're the enemy, to have one person that they can talk to and be like, I'm right right, and otherwise they're going to leave the show. They need someone who's like on their team, and so

you're absolutely right. They they they felt like the produce were on their side, and don't ever become friends with a producer, like, don't don't think that they're your friends. And I'm a producer too, so but I promise you I'm I'm on Fboy Island. I'm there for the right reasons. And I even told them I go the producers before we got started on the show. They hired me and I go on to zoom with the producers and I go by the way, I don't lie, like in my life.

I'm just like that's just a thing that I try not to do ever, Like I'll never consciously lie if I can help it. And they were just like I thought the zoom. I thought they were all on mute because they were just how to handle this. Yeah, well it's not and the thing is like, there's not. Well I really do believe now that it's not about lying as much. It is like we their job. They're they're hired to make the best show possible, and I mean I loved it. They produced the funk out of this episode.

I'm gonna say, on a five star Yelp review, I give this seven and a half star. It's so good. I get out, like, I mean, what an episode. This season is great? And that's when Nikki, when you texted me like like I knew that you had some watching to do, and I knew that I was sending you down such fun like so yeah, we got there. It was a long trek to some really good stuff. But now with the Kendall and Joe thing, I mean, I'm

so sad to watch. Kendall witnessed this as someone who has like been the X being like, let's get back together, and they moved on to some hot new plus old. He's gonna be banging Kenny tomorrow night. Kendall looks great side not Oh my god, if I was kinda liked be like, could you have sent my twin and just said it was me? This is too painful. She's so hot. She looked so hot. That's what she just had the twin. Okay, we're gonna take a quick break and when to come

back with two to the week. I don't know about you, but things again so hot. I think I gotta take break adding her back. Okay, you guys, first of all, we're hon to get to two thousand. We're still at one point five. So if you if you haven't liked us, or if you want to try to like us again, go for it on apple Um. But we've gotten so many good new reviews and we really appreciate it. Here's a fun one five stars from clearly the best. How did I miss the episode with Jim Jeffries art and

is so funny and her laugh is contagious. I find myself constantly updating my podcast list hoping her next episode will load Somehow I missed the episode with Jim Jeffrey, so I got a third episode this week. I have never left harder through the entire episode, which is saying a lot because I'm in tears every episode. I hope you have him back to review a Paradise episode. Thank you for the show and sharing your hilarious perspective with us. Okay, so, Claire,

we're hoping to have him on. We were supposed to have him on um a couple of weeks ago by his wife gave birth to a baby on that like the day before he was the baby was a little early, and his wife gave birth to the baby a little early. So I was actually thinking of I don't want to be the full creacause I really want to have them on, but UM, so I might check in because I know

his wife loves Paradise. He was fighting it. He was gonna do it to be on this, So I might check in in like a week and see if he like he's watching, and see if we can get him on, because if not, I'll stuck him back in from the Michell's season because we know he's not going to miss that. He kills me. Wait, Katie, I know that there was something that you wanted to promote before we do our emails.

There is there is something I want to promote. My friend Chelsea, who listens to this podcast, and comes over and watches uh Bachelor and Bedroom Paradise with me. She made an award winning music documentary called Bleeding Audio and they have a few in person screenings coming up. The film follows the career of the punk band The Matches and just talks about the music industry in general how

it's been impacted by the digital era. It's like a really really great uplifting documentary um and like people like Mark Hoppus, Nick Hexham, Cassidy Poper in it. So they're going to be having a screening at the Chinese Theater in Hollywood on September eleven. In September, they're going to be in Joshua Tree and then October in Minneapolis. You can go to Bleeding dash Audio dot com for more info on that. That sounds awesome. We also go some gray emails. This one is from Natalie mcklly um. The

subject line is Pandora revelation. Call it a conspiracy theory, but it all makes sense, so hear me out. Bachelor in Paradise is on ABC. Cheesy Pandora jewelry ad that made me not want to enter any Pandora anywhere. Ever. By the way, I'm Bachelor in Paradise. Disney's in alliance with Pandora Jewelry, as they have Pandora listed on their

website and a store on the grounds of Disney. The actual store Ergo cheap looking charm bracelet that probably made her wrist turn green and necklace straight from the Pretty Pretty Princess Game was an ad for Disney by way of Pandora from Jessica Fletcher. Oh sorry, I mean Natalie. What do you guys say to that? That is great investigative works works over time to connect together. Yeah. Wow, Keep conspiracy theories coming at Rose Podcast at gmail dot com. Okay,

here we are tweet of the week. If you guys want to participate, tweet to me and Anna hosny A by midnight on the episode Pacific time on the night whatever at air. So you know, they're the schedules all over the place, so whenever you're watching it by midnight Pacific Arta, Marine M y R I and an S s n I e H hashtag w y A t R. All. Right, here we go. Here's about five tweets. We're gonna narrow down to two. Lauren at Purple Underscore Hayes next week

I'm Bachelor in Paradise. Brendan and Piper decide on the name of their podcast. That's good, That is good. This is from seth Vat at Basebone One. Brendan is speaking to Natasha with the cadence of a vampire hypnotist who's used to women doing whatever he tells them to do. Look into my eyes. I will sleep with you and Piper and you will be okay with it? Yes? Okay. This is also from seth Vat at Basebone One. Tired of buying coach from your average airport jeweler, upgrade to

first class with the Brendan line of chains from Neil Plane. Okay, great, I don't think I get it, oh, Neil Lane got it? Okay. This is from air Rex at Erica. I want to coin a new term, Willen willing villain, describing Brendan and Piper. I just feel like that is they are the willing villain. Okay, well, we have two more. This is from Melanie b at Underscore Not Scary Spice. Brendan's terrible acting proved once and for all that Greg really is the Meryl Streep of

Bachelor Nation. Gas lighters, and she didn't tag us, but I'm going to go with Demi Burnett. Demi from the show Brandan got cast for F Boy Island and accidentally showed up to the wrong beach, although he never would have been cast because I think he lied to produce her. So like, F boys actually on our show need to say they're F boys to get in, and I think Brendan doesn't even realize he's an F boy. Uh it's oh, I love yet Okay for the silky Okay, Okay, So

we're gonna narrow it down to two. I would say I like the three that I like. I like the name of the podcast, I like the Meryl streep of gas lighters, and then I like Demi's Which two do you think are the fine? To Nikki Glazer as a Taylor Swift fan, I'm gonna have to go I'm like a willin enough dump in your I don't know it's does a play on Willow like the one because I think willing villains are Fillen allowed me to explore that subject of like why would someone want to be a villain?

And I think that's an interesting person. Okay, so willing and then what's your second one that you like? Do you like, name the podcast or one okay, great, Okay. So our final two are Lauren at Purple Underscore Hayes. Next week I'm Bachelor in Paradise, Brendan and Piper decide on the name of their podcast, or um Air Rex

at Erica. I want to coin a new term, Willain Willing villain, describing Brendan and Piper Willen or podcast Nikki Glazier as someone who just really was into the idea of like, there's so many times there's a villain and they're going I'm not though I'm right these people. There's a new reality show archetype that is a guy that comes in and goes I can't wait to be a villain. I'm a bad guy and I want everyone to know it.

I'm going to capitalize off of it. I'm gonna go willing because it actually is something not only funny and it sounds good and Taylor's with reference, but it's something we need to name and we need words. Okay, will in a new word, Jerry t I don't let you be the final decider. You get don okay, okay, Katie Willin or name the podcast. I have to go with podcast. It's just so perfect. Okay, I want a name for the podcast though, name for the podcast, name for the

podcast or willing Wow, they go hand in hand. Um, I'm gonna go Willains. I like that, all right, I'm gonna go podcast, Jerry podcast or Willains. What's your you get to pick? I truly like both. The here's the problem, Well,

here's the thing. The thing that really made me hate them the most is, like you guys said, when they're having that like intimate conversation about follower accounts, but then they're also getting into the fact that, like, oh man, like everybody's gonna hate us like this, they're coming for us, and they're joking around about it. They're so gross and they're so like they think they're impervious to criticism. They're like they know they're gonna be hated, but they think

it's kind of funny. They should not have a podcast. They're Willings. I'm going willing, Yeah, Willings. It is Air. Recca. You are the winner of Tweeter the Week at a r R. Recca, I want to coin a new term, willing willing villain describing Brendan and Piper Nikky g What would you like to promote. Where can people find you? Are you still on tour? How's that going? Yes, I'm still on tour. Um so many dates. Nicky Glades dot com.

My daily podcast, The Glazer Podcast is like a daily morning radio show with me and my roommate in my apartment. You don't need to listen every episode, drop in any day. We're always there a lot to talk about mental health, honesty. We're very much like um, you know, Kenny and Joe. We just like say what it is and it's fun. It's funny and uh yeah. The Niki Lays Podcast part of I Heart Radio, part of the fam, part of the Big Money Players podcast network, and check it out

any day and John join us when EPs. I mean, you're just the best. We fucking love you. It was so nic We love you, and I'm so happy for you that you moved like that. Were you moved? Yeah, I guess I couldn't cut it in l a um and I had to move back to St. Louis because you know, I was too intimidated and and I just didn't have what it takes grocery store where you working at. No, you have a good point there to be honest. Garry trainer. Would you like to promote Sweet Nothing? Yeah, car on

Paramount Plus and that's it. I mean, we adjusted doory. Can't wait for this kid's game show, whatever it's gonna be. I hope it's a reboot of Figure It Out with It Jeopardy for kids, um um okay. And then of course Anna and I are doing Fboy Island. We might have to have Nikki on at the very end to really break it down. We are and but so just it's on Fboy Island. We're doing it on our Patreon. We have two episodes out, so we're about to do our third and Easy to catch Up. It's so fun.

If you love Nicki Glasier, you're gonna love the show and you're gonna love our podcast. Uh. And my book is out in paperback. I think right now. I think it just came out like this. I don't know. It's sometimes this month. That's coming out in paperback in case hardcovers were just too heavy for your arms, and you're like, it's got a color I couldn't possibly lifted in a hardcover. Your ms have come true and you can get it in paperback. Anna, Katie, what would you like to promote

production charist imagery always makes me laugh. I mean, yeah, I got a shout out Nikki Glazer's podcast you have to go listen. Surprisingly, I was also on the original production TAM because I heard they're like, you work on this, do really Like We're like, yeah, okay, let's do it. So I was very excited for that show to come on and so go listen to that daily. How could you go wrong? Guys, you can't go wrong. You can't hear it wrong. You can't go wrong. You got all this.

Watch Boy Island then listen to us. Yes, I'll plug Boy Island too. I loved it. Thank you so much, Jerry, although sweet nicky gee, I would love to pick your brain about the the end. Okay, maybe some other time I can put my earphones off in for a second, Jerry. Katie Lavine, what would you like to? Uh? What would you like to? I am Katie Underscore Money on Twitter and Instagram. And if you live in California, please vote in the upcoming recall election. You have to vote by

September fourt You should have already received your ballot. If you did, you can mail it or put it in a dropbox or in l a at least. I don't know if it's all California, but early voting sites are open. You can go to s O S dot c A dot go to find your local polling place. Wow, I can't even We're gonna have another episode up tomorrow, you guys, Wells is going to be here. I don't want to, I don't want to get everybody too excited, but Wells is gonna be here. That's what's happening. Well, is there

anything my panties right now? Are the basements flooding? Is there anything that you guys want me to ask Wells tomorrow? Whenever? Whenever I see him, I'm like, I wonder, how privy? How much yea? How pervy? Like? What? How did you or her mispronounced privy as pervy? Did anyone else here? Yes? Oh those two idiots deserve each other. Perfect her. She was a big crier. Do you remember her on Matt James this season? She cried at the drop of a hat. So that was the first thing I thought, when she

should just really light hats. She hated to see them get dirty. I hate you now. I loved you before and now I hate you. Well, you know what I would say my cocktail party was a success. Then a full circle moment. Nicky Glazer, Jerry Traynor, thank you so much for being on you guys, Thank you, We adore you, and have a great day. Everybody bite. Oh yeah, want to get all up tonight. I feels so good. I just got a wonder to bush you finger. When you

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