"THE CRYING WOODSMAN!" With Paget Brewster and Rob Benedict

He always burned stuff off his face every year. You know what, I don't want to burn it. I don't like doctors, but I'm hoping this one a baby's bottom? Does he? So I should keep burning stuff off in my face? You know what? I want to look like your dad's baby's bottom. Hello, Welcome to a very special facial episode of What You accept This Rose. My name is Arta Marina and I'm back in Los Angeles with me. To my right is a man, A man's man. Yeah, here we go, now away forgot all the talking. Do

you know? I like my Bachelor of the Years A little good. I don't want to love ming it. Come on that was that was that's my b side single, Like you have to be a big fan, but like if you're taking acid or Molly or mescalin or that one where people shit their pants in the desert. What's that one? Iauasca? That's when I wrote that. I wrote that on Iahwasca. Everybody. Yeah, I like the meals, I like I like my Bachelor's a little bit older. Right, that's the cover. That's the tunnel of my biography. I

love it. I can't When does that come out? I can't. Yeah, I'm writing it now. I can't wait. It's so good to see you. You look like a handsome devil. Did you have a nice Fourth of July? I did? I did, Buddy mine. I rented a house with the pools? Where where? Where? Oh? Did you just? Did you go over there? I just wanted a house with a pool and none of the sad one, so we just rented one. Was it Laura Flynn Boyle's pool? It was? That's great? Did she come

with the house? Yeah, totally, she was. She was amazing. It's amazing. You're so good, you guys speaking, You're so good. The look on the face of this person listening to rob song. Let's just introduce her so we can discuss this. Really, you haven't heard the season. I kind of heart yours. She's a secretary out of the stage. I traveled with a Hi. Think that I might get her house in Los Angeles and that's not this padget brow stuff. Don't stay upon or round her. She'll call you a sierral kella.

But then she'll say, my name is Paget Bust, I'm satari offt and I will go on Amazon, Hello, Bio, one piece pa thing. So she's my yah. Also, we love me seve two thousand dollars. Guys, that was I've hit up most of our guests or seventeen. I keep sending up venom request and nobody I forget that. I owe you, you owe me seventeen. That song not on inspiration really wasn't inspired. They were all recorded in one thank you. So I'm I'm so mus I tried to

go on The Bachelor to further musical career. I was too I was too talented. I'm so excited I got to hear Robs. What did you think formed them out? My friend who, my friend Avery who who is the musician, the genius all of these outstanding. Did you love it? I loved it? You said my face? I knowed time. Did you have a nice Birthday of America? I did? I hadn't wonderful? What did you do? I hung up American Fly? Yeah, I made Burns and Dogs. I love watched I love my group and Katie. Did you guys

have nice Fourth of July? I did? Yes? I found myself in Sedona? Did you do Mescaline? Have have you done Meescaline? I haven't done mescal Has anybody here done me? Trip? Whatever? I feel like that's what you do in Sedona. Not only people maybe guys turned in nineteen and I'm going

to take up a mescaline addition. I just wanted. Since this is the only podcast about grief and the Bachelor, I'm just going to give a conclusion because my brother and I did a podcast last week we may or may not have I'm going to say we absolutely did not because it's not legal, actually been able to execute maybe not shooting off some of j J with some fireworks and it was allegedly did not happen, but it was so may not have been if it had happened.

This is how I picture it, so beautiful. And then afterwards there was like six hundred fireflies that came out in the field. Like she was like being like, I'm happy, I'm home. There was like all of a sudden, like all these fireflies were just everywhere. Oh my god, I may or may not have a video of something that did not happen. It was pretty great. So I just for the people who followed this horrible journey, I have to say, I feel like, Okay, like, you know, let

that portion. I felt like we did it right, and God forbid you ever have to do something like this. Find a friend who contrived to New Hampshire. You and you had some friends with you after after that part, yeah, they came. They came the next day. And again I wasn't sure if it was going to be weird, like hey, I just may or me not of rocket Mom into space, come come for a fun getaway. But like it was actually really nice. We talked about you. People were like

Rob Benedict should calm. I was real, fomo I follow on and I was like, why am I not? Oh my god, do you want to calm? Yeah? But the parties over you guys already, Let's do it again next time. Let it come with time travel. Yeah, no, I get well, it's also I get social anxiety, So I wasn't sure. I've never like hosted like a group. Have you guys done group getaways? Have you like rented an Airbnb somewhere and like gone with a group. No, No, I've done

the Parker Palm Springs. But but I haven't done like rent a house together. I've done it with my family. Have you Anna does it? Anna? Does it with friends? Just friends? Anna? I would not go for a long period of my family. Do you get nervous do it? Or you just do it? No? Just do it, and I bring a lot of marriag Juana. That's how you do it. That's how you don't partake neither. I'm not gonna. I'm talking about doing it going to Yosemite with Janey and Yeah, that sounds fun. Would you get a house

or hotel? Okay? Steve and I were looking into wait, Yosebody or Yellowstone yosemboity Yosebody. Same thing is Yellowstone Wyoming Bear that's in Wyoming. Yellowstones are Wyoming? Which yellow Yellowstone is yellow? Okay, here's somebody. You can't get a cool house for two people everyone who's renting their cool log cabin. It's for lots of people. It's for you bedrooms, all right, So I need to hear how it goes. Tell you how it because it sounds like an independent movie. I

feel like we're going to have fights. I know, I ken't for judge each other. I felt something's going to come out after twenty years or I'm scared. I felt like I was like in a Sundance movie that like started like Jenny Slate, She's like falls in love, like she's there with one guy, but then she falls in love with like the local cook or something exactly. That's that's my fear. I played the part of geniously, can I go out for the cook? You can go out

for the cook? Oh my god, that would be so great. Great, Yeah, you know what, let's do that. I think you can just go right to produce her. Okay, just this one. Can I play a park ranger? Yes? I want Anna to play like the neighbor next door who has all of the pot like that. There's like one uptight person who's like why do you keep going over to like Cynthia's house, and like Sydy is cool, and I'm like Cydia is not on the list. Did they didn't come with us? This is a group bonding trap. That's like

that that Jennifer Garner character and camping. Yeahs uptight. You just wouldn't let you do. Tracked out of that show after like two episodes. Did you finish it? Honestly can't remember I finished it. Red Gellman is always so good at being a creepy guy everything. He's so good on Fleaback disgusted, so disgusting and then equally disgusting but hilarious and stranger things. Yeah, I haven't seen that yet. He's

in everything he deserves to be. That guy is. He's so good, hard, and he's in a great place, speaking of talent. Here we are you guys hometown unto Duntown hometown. We start out in basically Westlake Village, which is where the Bachelor like hotel is. Peter does a leg wrap with Hannah and she goes, I've got a date with Peter. They can't get there, like verbid right, Like I'm on a date with Peter. I've got a date with Peter. I've got to do Peter. So then they're going flying

and he's like he kept there in a field. He's like, it sounds crazy you're here and she you can tell there's a part of her either they're playing it like to mislead us, but it feels like she's like talking herself into him, like she she's like that my Barbie, this is who I pictured. He's hand said, he's a pilot. He sweets that he's successful. But I didn't, like, have

all the sparks guys thoughts the same. I felt the same, and in fact, I was surprised that at the end of it spoiler alert, that he's like the first name she calls out. I was shocked. I didn't shot he was definitely going home. I thought he was a goner. I assumed I was shocked and we'll get there. But I was shocked that Tyler and Peter were the first two names called because she said I love you to the other two, so like what or I'm she told the camera I'm in love with them. So when she

called those two names first, I'm like, what is happening? Though? Tyler, Yeah, she just really wants to bone him. Yeah. I knew Tyler was no. I just I thought Tyler Peter was a goner. I didn't get that at all. You thought Peter was in a circle. I mean, I felt like they had a good date. I felt like they liked each other. I feel like she really seems to like him. I don't know. I hope you're right and I like something different. I hope you're right because I like Peter.

I don't think she wants to bone him now. I think that's really what it's coming down to. First, Yeah, I mean she likes maaking out with him, but he almost wants her too much. Yes, he I was just gonna that he wants to own her way more than she abound in the card, the condom in the car. So they started driving and he shows up and he was like um he was like, he goes, I'm gonna take you with my girl, And then he revealed his Mercedes baby, his baby, like a black Mercedes. Do you

think he comes for money. I think he's done well for himself, but parents seem to be lives at home. I don't like pilots make that much money, but I think he lives at home. Because we were like, how's he afford that car? Like, is this like a placement by Mercedes? Is it not? Really has but for some reason, I remember hearing, like when we were learning about the contestants that he lives at home. He lives at home.

She does make sense as a pilot, and maybe it's a used car, and like it's such a weird choise that that that's his pick that car. I pictured him in a Subaru, you know, like I don't know. I mean, he's like a single guy in Westlake Village in California who tried to be an actor. Yeah, so's I was shocked, though, I was shocked that that was the car. It did feel like his car because she started. I liked that she started. There's sides of her. I like, like I

liked her digging through the car. I liked finding the altoys. I liked finding the condom, you know. And then she was like this isn't you know? We're just holding hands and kissing in the car today, Peter. And then he was like, here comes my baby. I'm looking for a co pilot for life. And uh he took Hannah flying. Yeah I knew he was. Literally when he's like I've got something special plane, I was like, he's going to take her in a plane of the Camario Airports, right,

there with a fabulous diner. Does have a good dinner, unbelievable. He's also it feels like he's also a good audition to be the next Bachelor. Like That's what I was thinking on their date, because there was something very For the first time, I found him attractive when he was piloting, when he was paying attention to something serious, I thought, now, now I get it. I get it. That's a competent. That's a guy with skill, like he has to know what he's doing. There was a moment he was making

out and nobody's hands were Now it's that. That's not a problem. Up and walk around and ship little planes. I kept thinking of Jnald Kennedy Jr. I don't, I don't. You're not taking me in a little plane. I've been in a few little planes. I'm not going to it's pretty. I don't know. It doesn't feel like I'm not going it's not too scary. You're not taking me in your little plane. One time, I vomited one of them because I was so hungover, and my friends were very upset

with me. Who are you rolling with it? You're a friend from high school as a pilot now so and we have a little there was a little airport near where we live, so he could just like rent planes and we just had to pay for fuel so we could just go up whenever. That's wild. So he was like, She's like, I'm today, We're gonna make our relationships store to the next day level. I thought it was a really good thing. They flew over the mansion and he's like, that's where we met. And then um, he's like, I

see a future with you. Um, there's happiness. I've never felt like this, Like just the whole I felt like, okay that they were cute. I don't think he's gonna win, but I like him. She felt very awkward on this day. She's not a scorny for him. I just don't. Yeah, I don't think she's into him. I think he's gonna be the next Batchlight you call. That was like, he's

the next Batchelor. I hope Tyler. I'd rather have Tyler. Oh. I would love to Tyler, but I don't think Peter is just so perfect and they have all the I's Tyler, but I think he was a very compelling case for a bachelor. Last They would love to have a hi. Oh my God, he can fly the planes that go on there a weird little plane. Oh my god, you're right. It did feel like the dream did on a Bachelor.

But he's flying like that's like the ultimate Bachelor he would be you're right, and he's like so cute and he's really and he's a good age four. He's seven, like he is ready to actually settle down. How did we feel about that ad with Tiah? That was weird? Yeah, that was weird. I started watching the way did I fast forward through a Yeah? Tia was like she it was like some protein bar and we had to watch her like like her best of and it just reminded

me like, oh, you were really annoying, Tia. You were really annoying last year. You were never raven. I was not a huge Ti. Yeah, she's raven minus. She's rave minus. Who like wouldn't let like gay Colton go like just be himself? He didn't want her? Um? Who was Colton? Colton was on? Uh, it's the All Star weekend for Major League spall this week and uh Colton was on an All Star softball match that I was on ESPN yesterday.

When did you watch it? Well? I went for a second, because I want to see the home run derby because that's always fun and it was right for the show start. Uh, and I went and it was like All Stars, Celebrity suff All Tournament and Colton was, wow, making money. They're making their money these people the protein bars and the sports events on The Bachelor. Yeah, we do, yes, we yes. How you get rich? That is how you get rich. Hi, my name is Rob. I'm almost fifty two girl children. Hi,

my name is Arden. I just burned something off of my face. Um, and I like fireworks. I like fireworks. Um. So then we go to the family and it's Peter Sr who's also a pilot, Barbara and Jack and I was fascinated. What of things again made me like, um, Hannah a little bit. She has a verbal diarrhea. The mom's but she's but she's also a wild card. So the moms they start going like where have you been, meaning like, oh, we went to we went to Boston,

we went whatever. And she goes, let me take this one. I'm gonna take this. He said, I'm no, and I'm gonna challenge you. And then I said you better open up. But I was like that. They asked where you unless he was editing it to funk her over, like they wanted to know, like where did you travel to? And she's like, here's my journey and I'm like you better open up, Peter, And at first I didn't see him,

but then I was like, I'm got her. Her first like sentences to every single parent was terrible yea, and about bad thing. She would tell each parent bad things about their kids. The immediately, like at first I was like, funk this guy tie pants and I'm like, oh, hell, you're a pilot, Yes, you gave weird parent. And then they go, are you ready for some Cuban food? And they did the craziest German prayer, which made so one of these Germans one of them is Cuban. I guess. Yeah.

I would argue that wasn't a prayer, is more of a chant of writing Sabina Finest. It was scary, yeah, like what's happening? Yeah, Peter the one that spoke Spanish Cuban in German, so I think his mom is Cuban, Cuban dad is German. Yeah, but we were trying to fake the children of Nazi to Cuba. After the yeah, yeah, yeah, let's figure it out. Yeah. I always wondering the whole time. I'm looking at them like they both like what because German as wife? But because I was like, I guess

the mom maybe it's like half cute. I know. I was like looking at Peter and like you, something became more interesting that you're Cuban. Like I look at this blonde little like, I'm like, she must be half Cuban. I mean, and he had the dad had like bright blue eyes. I was like, all right, I was so Then Peter started crying and he was like, our grandparents would have loved you. And I thought his family was sweet. The brother was nice, The brother was nice, the dad well,

the mom was a little crazy. The mom was like, tell me everything everything. I didn't tell me every everything, everything. I think, everythink everything. They were before they were the most normal. I love Tyler's, Tyler's dad, Tyler's I love Tyler's dad and Tyler's great grandmother grand The mom goes, is this the one who makes your heart go? Plink

plink plink, was like, I don't hear that. If I had a child then they were on the Bachelor, I would behave like everything time everything blink plink, plink bank. You would be the most entertaining mother to watch every even they would edit it like my worst off, Like they would edit the fool to make me like a wild Let me yeah, yeah, I give you your own show.

They'd be like, get this, Oh my gosh, Like if things don't work out with my daughter, things are not good with I'm just saying our family, the genetics are strong at the age. Well, if you think I haven't had things burned off my face every year since I heard about Anna's dead. I'm seventy eight years old. But I I am a bobcat in the sack. I'm a wild card. I cry, I'm needy, I'm giving, I'm insecurius, I'll do. Nothing is off limits, All roads are open. Has there ever been like a mom who's hit on

the Bachelor. There's been some flirty moms. I feel like, you know what, Ari's mom was kind of a flirty mom. Back in the day. Ari's mom was a oh my boy, my baby boy, realtor's less race car failure. Um, so then she's he goes, he says to his mom. He says to his mom the phrase it's fire, And I thought, oh, like if my child like that is like, is this one that makes your heart go plan planbling? Oh mom, it's fire. I haven't said it yet. She's like, I

want the world for you. And then the dad starts crying. He had a huge cross around his neck. There's a lot of crosses. There was a lot of crosses, a lot of Jesus and a lot of Jesus in this episode. You know that my pillow guy, it was like that kind of cross Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it looked it didn'tch it. Here they're weeping and now there was a lot of Jesus, just a lot of Jesus in this episode of Cuban. He might be Cuban. Did you notice in the car when she pulls the condom out,

she also pulls out like a picture. Yeah, there was a prairie. There was a Jesus like plane deck. I think his dad might be Cuban, like the open shirt cross yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. You couldn't tell either of them. I don't know. And then we have also if they were like, oh, you know, my father was a former porn star, I would be like, yeah, starts found he was a crying woodsman man. I got to write that that's a real good I want to have that domain. That's that's really rich. Um. So then the mom, the

mom blew it. He hasn't said he loves her yet. The mom isn't me. It was like he's head over heels and loves like be cool Janice like cool. And then she's like, I mean at the end, it could be him. And then the mom just starts crying and she's like, God is finding a path for you. And I am really in need of a daughter, Like okay, she's too much, too much. I don't want to be somebody's daughter. And then the dad was like, I hope you get what you're desiring, and he starts crying and

he's his cross necklace. He was sweet and he goes, I only want what's best for you, and then he said many blessings, and I thought I had the worst out in the world, Like how do these nice people end up on the Bachelor? Like I feel like you need a more funked up failing to end up on the back. Oh yeah, but this is also like, you know, after the cameras and everything, we don't know what kind of I don't know, I mean, what do you think, kay? I?

Don't know. I mean I think I think you're right, especially for Peter living near l A. He wanted to be on TV True Story, you know, I think that had a lot to do with it, but he succeeded. I mean, I still think that they were the most I guess Tyler Familey was pretty non Tyler Filmy was. They were my favorite family. I love them. Yeah, so here anything further about Peter before we move on to Tyler next Bachelor. I like Peter that. I do like Peter a lot more after you. I think it was

really sweet and it could be the next batch. I'd be okay with it. I thought they had a good conversation outside afterwards. Yeah he was, and it was like take care of my girl. Oh you know, they dragged that same bench with the same pillows to a couple of hometown days. So after dinner, that true because suddenly there was a new couch on the third hometown and I was like, oh, it's not that same couch they've

been dragging around. That is where the families bought the same way fair wayfair And I always wonder what they dragged it or right they dragged it. They for sure dragged it isn't their actual homes. Yes, they do, I think and and and I think they do bring in some furniture Tyler's Tyler has felt for a guy that like lost all their money. They had a really big house, they lost all their money. Yeah, they said, remember he

was used to be that, used to be that. That was his big heartbreaking story was we lost everything decently, Yeah, because they were in their house was a mansion. Because I also feel like a lot of people I was talking to someone um about this in Arizona, because Arizona

got hit really hard. But they were saying, like a lot of people who just had a ton of money just walked away from their houses and we're like able to just let it go and go but then like just lose that house, not be able to make any money off and leave. But they were able to still recover decently. But I mean, I don't know what his situation. I mean Florida, and in Florida, I think you maybe

it was like in the worst part of town. So maybe his old house was on the water and this is a big new house, maybe in a development farther from the beach or something. My own little slice of Oh my god, Okay, here we are Re Tyler and Jupiter, Florida. Robert Kraft. Yes, that's where he got the hand job. You're right, the owner of that. It felt like a hand job, that felt like a whole town. Is it rich? Is it rich on the water, it's very nice. What's it rich from? I don't know. I think just rich

hand job? So they oooped up on the boat. He's yeah, He's like, it's my own little sue you Red Hannah Bay, here's gonna be mom is looking from a lighthouse, bring me in on the storm. It's like, I love this guy. I keep trying to convince myself he's smart. Everybody's telling me he is. You guys said he was smart. I don't see it. I don't know stupid. I think he looks like between the eyes by something. I love this guy. I love this guy. I love him. Does he seem

smart to you? I don't know that he's smart, but they on paper he has an M B A. I think, yeah, I mean he's seen. I think he reads. His Instagram is entertaining. But maybe I'm just willing him to be smart because I think he's hot. And also I think his whole Southern vibe just aesthetically makes him appear dumber. So I'm just I'm an elitist Northerner from Massach. These people down, you know, it's like we only see sniffed.

So if he out a sentence longer five years anyway, I have to say they're very bad at putting sunscreen on. So they they did the they did the She was concerned the attraction. She was like, she I have not seen somebody so attracted to someone since Caitlin Eyeball Nick and the club like It Nack. This was like she was like ah Tyler. So she was straddling him under the water. Oh my god, I had the best email to read. Okay, we got the best email. This was

from a podcast FADO fully appreciated. This was sent to us yesterday. I'll just read you part because there was a little bit that felt vaguely like it was some things were being given away. So this lady. Over fourth of July, they were in Virginia, UM they hosted her husband's college roommate and his girlfriend, and she casually let it slip that her best friend was on the bachelorette. She said, my head whipped around so fast you'd think

I was Linda Blair. It turns out she went college with Tyler C. And yes, he is as delightful and weird as he seems. Most importantly was the t she spilled about the show steamy hookups. Apparently Hannah straddles the guys so often because the producer is production is asking her to hide their boners. I repreat a crew member gets her attention and tells her to cover up a boner with her ass. I mean, wow, wow, thank you for emailing us friendship. I mean, I mean, I mean

that's pretty smart. In the defense of the producer or anti wardrobe. Please, those men's pants are so tight and if you had a stirring and he is a big, tall guy, I believe he has a believe yeah, but it looks like he's wearing dance leggings like Tyler has the tightest. It's not good. The ass is so tight on his day, all wear pants that are way too tight. Like I started with Nick File, I think yes, and then Dane and then Dean did the high Water like a slim pant. But like I personally do not find

it attractive when a guy wears pants that type. He's got But Danka, do you think it's attractive? He's so cute. If I dated him, I would have to buy him new pants. I mean like, oh, those are cute on you. At the end of this date, I had the thought, after she straddles him in the car and then like a spider metal, like a spiderman his shirt, that I'd already gotten that email. So I was looking for boner and they didn't show his dick area. You saw it very briefly when he got out, and I was like,

he's hard. Yeah, I can see. Katie is always on we in patrol, and I like it shocked I missed, and I had the feeling like when she drove away, he was like, I gotta get into sweatpants. Like, yes for him, I wanted to get put on sweat Yes, you must be uncomfortable. It's fun. So she does a leg wrap underwater and he was like, wow, this is the house where I grew up. Um in the recession, we lost it. And then um he goes. He was very sweet though, he's like he's very southern gentleman. He's like,

you're gonna be my dad, my mom my crew. And then she asked about the dad and he goes, well, I haven't seen him since I left. He had a paralyzed vocal cord. My dad at a paralyzed vocal card after surgery. It's I felt so bad that he had to go on TV because it's like, you literally can't

talk for a year. He did, okay, but you're glad that you, like, explained Dick, because I remember like people would hear my dad and be like, like children would scream, yeah they had margarite does He's like, I want oh. He goes, I want my dad to be around forever, and he goes, oh on a jam. In the world's the worst written song, he said, I want a jam. And then it was a white guy with dreads and then Hannah was air guitar, and then there was old

people clapping. There were people they cut to these people that looked like they didn't know how to clap. Literally, there was like it actually didn't feel set up, but it felt like this guy who loves to day as be this is the dancing carpenter, like he literally want a jam. He loves her. It felt like the quote like when I picture Florida, I picture I want to jam in a white band with dreadlocks in the day

in the day like that. It's like that full, Um, what is that Margarita Ville singer, Yeah, is that whole key with lifestyle that she has anybody here of a bridge of the Keys then to Florida but not the Keys. I like that that. She was like, is it is this for real? Like she was trying to understand it was part of their production, Like she's like, we're all out, okay,

am I supposed to know this? Check air guitars violently. Yeah, it wasn't and it wasn't that kind of a sound, was like a reggae song, but what was this chorus of the song was like hey, hey, hey, yeah, yeah yeah something yeah, super easy. It was hard. That was hard to watch. It's super hard. So then we walk up. We're at home tight pants, my mom's my pops and then dad, his dad kept I loved his dad. He goes,

this was the cutest atrection. His dad goes, I love you, buddy, and he goes, I love you man, and then he starts crying. He's like, it's my pops. I love you buddy. They hugged for a long and his face looked like Tyler, Yeah, he was so cute. Tyler talked about him and this is what's so funny about him, and he really does seem like a nice guy. But was like, oh man, you're gonna a little one little tree, one of my

little eyes. What's wrong with I love his dad. He was my favorite parent that's ever been on the show. Miss hannahby Oh my god, he goes Miss Hannaby, Miss hand. This is a small town, and everybody knew Tyler was going to be on it, and I thought, please Lord, don't let him be cut. On the first night, I loved him. He's like, you got me, Oh my god, Oh my gosh, this is real. He might be in love. Oh my god. I kept waiting for the other shooter

drop him, like turn into an asshole. But everything out on the deck or whatever was Greaty of all the hometowns, these were fairly tame. We didn't have a Dean's dad, we didn't have a Jojoe's mom and brothers. Wait do we get to the Jed's mom. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And they did get a little whackier, but they weren't quite as bad as TIA's uncle's um. They even the uncle of the Rebecca's uncle with all the ducks, and

he was like, what about Andy's dad's sigh? Oh, I didn't watch that season, Andy Dorfman, And what was Once you saw her dad, you were like, oh god, she looks just like her dad. And then but that's the one that dated Chris Harrison dated her and she was super rude to me at the Kentucky Derby when I asked to take a picture, she you know who to me with mis j from America's Next Time. What happened? What happened about Andy? What did she do? I just said,

I mean it was all the Bachelor people. They're all at the Kentucky Their hotel rooms are paid for, they have a police escort and cars, and they're just being taken around for photo ops. So people are there to take their photo with you, and Derby is paid for everything. So I walked up because for me too. So I walked up and I said could I take a picture? And she no joke, turned head up. I roll sigh. Sure, Steve, it's not like I don't know how to work a camera.

Like Steve's right there with the thing with camera and watching the whole thing. And he was like wish I had videotaped it because he was like, but she wants to be an actress. She doesn't know that you were asking asking for he took the picture, but whatever. Yeah. I was just like, yeah, I get though. Maybe she

who knows. Maybe she was tired, and I just feel like all the nurse was nice to us set, they were all they're all excited, and yeah she was the most h Yeah, I wish she's still like the weird abusive guy at that time. It was right after when you like the cheese cheese eater. Maybe she'd been beating up that. She came on the whole time she was on the Bachelor and then she was the bachelorette. I always thought she had a stick up her, but yeah, out she did her friends, so they got the type hands.

And then he was like, I wanted I want you to see my wife and kids. I'm taking this seriously. And his dad goes, oh, we can do is to love and support you, and then I and then he goes, ever since he was just a child, we've got out a big journey together. A small child has been a big journey. I loved him. And then the brothers were saying to her. Our dad was in the hospital and he had to run the business, and he stepped in

and become everybody's personal lean on. I loved Tyler. He wouldn't he wouldn't make a great bachelor, but I almost feel like he's too good for it, Like, yeah, he too measured, think about there's no wild car. He's just too good. If a person I tried to press, I went down to work. He had his date in Little Compton, and I tried to get details. It turns out a Little Compton was like, we don't want our name. Like they were the ones who were like, you could film here,

but we don't want that. Little Compton was like, you can do. Nobody cared. Nobody watched the show, that's how, And I was like, so New England. She would have been like, what the funk, Oh my god, we gotta go down. Oh my god. I'm like, oh my god, oh my god. She would have been all over that. She was pissed they didn't properly give them tribute. So the dad goes, oh no, he might be in love. He doesn't let people get close. Um, and he goes,

you can't plan to fall in love. I just loved them, I loved him, I loved them anything fine, and then he and then he basically like boned her in the car right behind that driver, just right behind that driver. Did you see You can kind of see like a bulge. And then he kind of like really, they were very clear. He was like straddling, she was straddling him, laid down and then straddled and then and then he said sorry mom, And then the driver was like six inches in front

of that image enough. Yeah, yeah, that's not the first time that's happened to the driver. But yes, I have a question. Do you think when they said he doesn't he didn't have a lot of girl friends, he didn't bring a lot of women home, is because he was a player, because he was just having sex interesting opposed girlfriends. He I went deep diving on his Instagram, and it seems like he had one high school girlfriend for a while. It seemed like there was one lady that was like

his gal. I saw someone on on the subreddit say that they went to college with him and he wasn't a player at all, which is not to crush on, but like he was just like a nice guy and I think he was really in the sports so, and especially he probably played college. I mean it's kind of hard, so he probably just girlfriends, but a lot of a

lot of the sports guys and players. Absolutely, But I just feel like he honestly is just a respectful person and really the brainer he looked at these four guys brainer that he should be and what were we going to say? I just think yeah, Like I think also just the trauma of the recession in his family, just like he had reality, how old would he have been? Yeah, he was in high school because I I was when

I graduated college and justust he's like high school. I don't even know how so he was he was ten years ago to nine, he would he was probably graduating high school. That's a terrible time for that to happen. He was probably just traumatized with his family because didn't the parents also get divorced? He probably Yeah, where his parents really? Wait something? I thought that he said divorce and then but then it said like his mom was taking care of I thought I thought that I was

trying to add it up. So maybe she stepped up because he left to just help with the dad because he clearly I don't know. So then we have Okay, anything further about Tyler. She should she should be so lucky. He would be a grounding force. And she's a little spastic, she's so mental. Of these two, do we think either of these are gonna win? And do we think either of these are going to be the next Bachelor? I would love to live in a world where Tyler wins,

and then, yeah, I would. I would prefer that. I would like that. I feel like I don't think that's what happened. I feel like Tyler being the Bachelor. I worry it would ruin him. I I would love that for all of us, and I don't think that's what happens. What do you think it's gonna happen? I think one of the two turds is gonna win. I'm still sticking with Luke, either Luke or Jet. Luke will win or will. I do not think Luke's gonna I hope he does. Actually,

because of that, I think that Jed will win. I kind of think Jed's gonna win to because they tend to go towards that. The parents who are like no and they because they want to win. Anna wants to win. Think then I bet Peter will even though I'd rather have Tyler. I bet Peter will be. And then I bet every cast off of the Bachelor franchise will slide into the d m s of Tyler and try to date him in real life and hope he dates none of them, and then he just dates something. Yeah, hopefully

he doesn't end up. We love you, Tyler. Peter would make Why would you pick Peter as the Bachelor over Tylers? I'd rather have Tyler, but I bet Peter. I would much prefer Tyler. The producers would prefer Peter. I think. I think they want a pilot. They want then it's just the one world pilot. Yeah, he's a pilot. They want the flying thing. They want thes and he's and they pick really Christian, clean cup boys like Ben Higgins, like Polton, they pick not Nick Viale, but they pick

really white, clean cut boy. He's just like yeah, he's just like it's like the model fucking back. And they're not sexy. There's like a there's like a slightly neuter quality guys. I mean, come on, that's right. We've noticed there's a there's a ken doll like antiseptic. Not what appeals to us. They're not dirty dogs. There's something I don't know. There's something, so then why not like Mike. I don't Mike. I mean, Mike could still happen, but Mike would be shambles when he was in her presence.

He was not cool. He had no game. No he might he had game. He had game with Luke and zero game with him. Okay, so here we are, We're at okay here, and that's where it gets cooking. This is where I'm excited. Here we are, We're at Luke, and um we're in Gainesville, Georgia. And he goes, well, other people took you on a plane and then somebody else took you on a boat, and I'm gonna take you just Sunday school before church. And she goes, there's no way she came up with this. Luke is a

jigsaw puzzle. I have the corners down, but I don't have the middle figured out. I'm like, you don't do puzzles and see that when she was sung in the camera during the day, I just felt like she was like really forcing it, Like why is this happening to me? This is like like when a crazy person gets too far in the show. Why are we praying why is there a group of strange men not on their knees. There were too many people there and they were all so if you if you guys, don't there's a few

people that actually just listened to the podcast. So who who here? Wants to set the scene for what they walked into? Rob okay. So they go into this room and it's everything from like children like boy scouts, to like older men mostly men. Nine sent men in the room in like a lodge. Somebody said it looks like

a cracker barrel restaurant. Yeah, long tables, yeah. And then a weird creepy minister says to Luke, you're gonna tell your story today, and then Luke gets up in front the testimony and his testimonial and testimonial in front of children's like basically, I got a lot of asks. I sucked everybody, and then showering Jesus. Jesus sent three for three with shower Jesus told her exactly the same story and they told it to us the first week. So

it's like I fucked everybody. I couldn't, I was doing everybody. Really when he was like, I mean I got I got at it. I mean I got down like I got. Look there were a few fingers in the butts, like you know, like a yeah, I'm not proud of He was like it was Chason Jason, and you know he's the kind of guy that will will sheat on her eventually and be like, oh, I'm so sorry I gave

into the evil side. If you had the devil made, he said, the Holy Spirit came to him in the shower and he followed it to like a hole to go glory hole, and he's like, this is what I've been waiting for. And it was the real deal having a mental breakdown. And then there's all these like brainwashed children and then adults are like they said, look for the big guy with the smile, and there's Luke And I said, that must be Luke and he's a real He was a good friend for me. He makes friends

with everyone around. They had those people so much, there was too many, Like it was like too too many Luke loves the underdog. It was. I think it was just a religious organization in that town that agreed, we're all going to get on TV and we're gonna show these godless Americans how it's done. That we support each other that we look like there was something false about it, unfortunately, because you know, he feels false. So I don't know

if they even paid those people. I think they were excited to get on TV, but it was too first of how much they were pushing that he's like actually a good person, like they are pushing that so Safe said that he loves the underdog. I'm like, then, why of every guy in the house, why did he take little other Luke and pick him up and throw him on the ground. He didn't do that to Mike. You didn't do that to Tyler. He did it to little Luke.

By the time that they go to these hometowns, is the show airing, they know they aired it, everyone in the town knows what it is, and they edit backwards. They waitfully to end, they edit the entire thing. You're wondering if they felt they had to do damage control. The whole thing ends. The whole thing ends, and they edit backwards. Okay, it did feel though, like that was his like last hail Mary, like he's like I just got to get all these people to make it sound

like I'm a great guy. I mean, I would wonder then, I mean, I know, I know, like you would think like, oh, these people will watch the show then and be like, oh, he's a piece of ship. But they won't. They'll just be like everyone else was a piece of ship. Luke was right, but they knew. But I think the producers saw like, this is a fucking lunatic, and then they had that crazy giant prayer circle around the putting hands

on him. If I was at that, I would have run for my fucking life, like that's it was my actual night. Um. There was one in that shot where they're all down on one knee and they're all sort of holding on to each other's shoulders. There was one kid in the foreground. There's hands on a guy's shoulder next to him, and then he quickly removes it. I don't know if he thought people are gonna think, you know,

the gay, the touch, the yeah, the gay toes. I've got the gay time on American American, God forbid, I touched a man. Oh my god. So then I mean they go and we meet his crazy looking father, his gorgeous young mom's the hair I want. I want that because she had the face of a twenty year old was like a long gray blow out, beautiful. That she gave birth to Luke. How could that be? And that other guy, that guy, that guy, and then the guy with the broken heart brother like Luke broke his arm.

Of course, he looked his haircut, looked like he'd been in a cult. And then Luke broke his arm. And then everyone's like he might be mad for a second, but then he just sets his course right and you know he Luke, he knows Luke. The brother's wife was also Hannah. We were like, that's creepy. And then he goes which is cool, and we're like, no, which is Hannah, Hannah, Let's be real, Luke is being Luke. You weren't like

and then so she has verbal diarrhea again. She's immediately and then literally like the media was like this guy, I mean I was mad at him and I was putting him in the corner and and he was like, I'm walking on eggshells. And then literally when when your kid comes to you and it's like we've had a good week and a half, I'm ready for marriage. It's been good for a week and a half. You've been seen each other for a week and a half. That's

why he's been good. Also, that's the one where the little the great grandma was sitting there right next to handle while Hannah was trashing lukea his regular grandma looked just like her face looked just like great grandma. I like her. Hannah was cute too, because she like goes over to pay extra attention. She was. But then the dad goes, that's not like my son. And then he goes for a week and a half. This relationship is on track. I've been in my lane. The lane, stay

in your lane. The fucking lane thing. It's not a good Metapha figure out. If anyone knows who Luke is in this family, they're gonna blame the editors. They're gonna be so mad at the editors. So they're going and he's like, thank the Lord number one. Someone's uh, someone has had her heart softened for you. I look her in the eyes and I see Mrs Parker. I can't I see a woman who's going to divorce me. The bro has the arm cast. He's like, I want to

make this right. If you tell him that he's done, he wants so you can see her just by like she's so hot for him. She's this is everything she wants to hear this is like, oh, the guys in the house, we're wrong. He's a good Christian man. It was just misunderstood. I thought it was very key that the father said, if she has chosen you, it is something beyond anything that we we don't deserve it. And I was like, key words, you don't deserve it. Also,

you are so weird pastor vibes. It wasn't like Jessica since his dad before he came out. When the mom goes, Lukey, what has been holding you back? Let Hannah see your heart? And he's like, I'm sorry, we've struggled and whatnot. I could tell you I am looking at my future wife without a doubt. I do love you, and I am looking at my future wife. I have fallen and I am falling in love with him. I am falling in love with Luke. I'm like, oh my God, kill me now? Why are we Why are you dragging all of us

along on this ride? This is that family is against abortion, that's all. I was like, get and that whole family a first will shun you for the fantasy suitets like, not just your son, that whole family will shun you forever for the fantasy yeah, yeah, so, and then he tells his dad that there's a spiritual connection they have more than any other contestant there. I don't do that. I was really freaked out by that whole town. It felt like a horror movie. It felt like the Wicker,

like a town of like ladies eyes. No, Lukey little doesn't sound like little Lukey Luke just being don't make Lukey meth Luke Luke Lukey. Have Luke and Hannah get married, they will make the Antichrist. Yes, the whole town trying to get Luke's to marry. Yes, Yes, it's just destiny just given. Yeah, that's exactly right. The town Georgia, and here we are. Anything left about Luke. I don't know. I don't care for that family. I didn't care for

that hometown. It was too much. It seems so forced and fake and just creepy, Like it kind of seemed like if she went there, she would never return. This is so crazy. It felt like one of those families that's so obsessed with like looking perfect, but then it's just cracks on cracks on cracks, like it's just everything is falling apart underneath the surface. But they're like Luke would never do Lucy. I've seen the Lucas scene in

the Lord and Shower. Jesus came and found Luke. Side note shout out to Sandy Christiansen from saying on swag who sent all of us? Um are John Paul. You can call me John Paul Jones JO. There's there's links to it on our Facebook page. I wore them all over Rhode Island. They're really comfortable and they're they're great looking flip flops. Thank you. So I got my my mug my. You can call me John Paul Jones, mug love it. She made that. She made that Hannaby's pill.

She hasn't this is life. Isn't all blueberries and paper play. I mean, God bless she has a vision. So thank you Sandy Christiansen. Um, we appreciate your presence. Okay, so then here we are anything further before we go on to the greatest Knoxville, Tennessee. Jed with his Okay, I'm going to fast forward for a second. His mom was on pain killers, right, think it was she high? Was it pot? What was it? At a van? It looked

like pot? But I don't it looks like it looked like maybe she had anxiety about she took his NIX and drank a glass of wine. Laurie touch she has stage fright. And then maybe she's an unpleasant woman because she has an unpleasant sister, so like, so maybe she's unpleasant and unhappy in her life and she has stage fright. So she took like an ad van or something. And because the way she was lying, she was flying. She was like, actions were slow. He was like, oh, I've

been there, I've been you before. Oh my god. I would never do that on TV where people can see me, like millions of actually millions of people are watching. It's like and it's almost like got ya jazz angry mom who has bangs? Okay, so here we go. We start out, he's like, oh, we're in Knoxville, which wasn't actually his hometown. Lo, and behold, we're going to a recording studio. Oh what a surprise. We're gonna get more airtime from my music.

That I thought I was going to come here just for my music, but I fallen in love and not even more in love with my other two girlfriends that are at I'm going to write a song together. And then she's like, thank you Lord so much for a great I mean, she is, she's bought this music thing hook line and sinker. I'm also not entirely sure he's actually a professional musician. He's not because he didn't know

how to explain what an isolation booth was. Yeah, oh, this is the boost and I think she said isolated something, and then he was like, yeah, this is where the and he put his hands to his ears as though he was wearing headphones, and then said, the magic honestly separates the vocals from the other musicians playing in the room. Honestly, you think he knew that there were headphones involved. I bet I've been in a real recording studio like that. Probably,

I don't think so. I don't think so, because he didn't seem to know he's this he's been, he has not. No one has been in a recording studio like this. He's yes, an upholstered garage. Yeah. So then she goes, we are falling in love, and then she said I wore my star thing and it's written in the stars. And so they did a song together. And I have to say it's too bad that he sucks, because they were kind of cute together. Well, he can sing, Yeah,

he actually can sing. He actually can't say. I just don't know if he's been a professional Musician's not no, because he's like he's a burlesque dancer. He's okay, she's like photos came under down Under Chippendale's Yeah, And why would he lead with that because he's trying to be because he wants to be a musician in Nashville, like

all of that, I don't know. I listened to the three tracks he has on Spotify, I think you did, and they're like, so basically they sound like Maroon five songs, but then the lyrics aren't that right, Like it's like look up on the wrong side of the bed, Like it's so basically different from each other. Like he can't find his boy. He doesn't know, he's just trying to see what sticks. I mean. I had a music person I felt like, considering his co writer was Hannah, that

their song could have been way worse. Like I thought, okay, that was okay, if you're co writer is Hannah. He sort of cobbled it together. Rob, your musician, what did you think? I don't like it? I don't like him, Yes, Rob, I don't trust his motives, like why is he he had a girlfriend? Like why is he really there? And at the end of the episode he was pissed that she kept him in and that that kind of rubbed

me wrong. To like, you really love her, you'd be like, yeah, I get another shot, whether or not I'm not sloppy. Second salut, well you actually are. At least Luke doesn't have two girlfriends exactly, just in the whole thing, like he's not he never without his guitar. But what if Jed was like, row, can I open for you? He and so we are so deep him when we did, we did the draft picks on and on his bio, he was like, ever since he got his heartbroken, he

hasn't written one song. Bull It's bullshit. He can't stop writing songs. Every five minutes. He's like, I wrote a song for you, another song. It's called Newport, new book, new book, new part. My name's Jed, Yeah, yeah, I know, Oh my god, thank you. I can't wait to drop an album. So then it is they work cute and then he goes, do you ever feel like your heart is just I'm mad at your chest because you have something to say? And you can't do it because I

love you. I thought he was gonna be like, I have six girlfriends and I'm a strapper with six girlfriends, and that his chest is beating so fast. And then they went and you're missing the dad leg rap? Do you have to pay? Do we take it to pe? Break? You can't miss this, Let's pause it break? Okay, well let's get back in there. Okay, wait, what were we talking about? The come back with it? Okay, pe breaks over? Wait wait I was I'm just saying, why do they

why do they show us what happens with Luke? I know they did that last week with him with with Colton jumping over the fence, Katie suggesting, suggesting that it's not necessarily the end of his story comes. Oh my god, you're right, Oh my god, you're right. He comes back with the rain. You're right, you're right, Like she sends him home because he oh, you're brilliant. So maybe he wins comes back. No, I don't think he's gonna win though,

because that's like unacceptable. I think she was, that's unaccepted. She's before and it's like, oh, like she did look super pissed, but that's what makes me think there's something. There's just production wise throwing us. He is coming back with a ring. You're right, you're right, because originally they showed Chris Harrison saying to her, he says he's gonna marry you. He's come, he's here with the ring, but they were showing footage of Mike in the elevator going

up to go on a date. I love breaking this down with you guys. It's like the Mystery Crew. I love it. I love it. We put our heads together and we figure it out. We're like the pinball Wizard of the Badger. Okay, you're right, you're right, You're right. Luke gets at home and then he comes back with a great Do you remember who was? It was? Becca's boyfriend came for the with the dollar sized ross ross row. The fact that we remember we are in so deep,

the fact that we know Becca's ex boyfriends. Okay, so then okay, so then so they do the thing and then she he says I love you, and then the cute the dad did the leg wrap to Jed, although he did have a soul patch and was wearing ed hardy, so it evened out some type of dog who would insist that you follow your dreams to be a musician. It completely made sense that that was who was Jed because his dad was in an ed Hardy shirt with a soul patch. Debbie texted me that the douche douche

apple doesn't fall far from the douche tree something like that. Yeah, that's where like the soul patch apple. It's just like, yeah, that makes sense that Jed is the And then the mom was like, you know some moms that hate whatever, like that's my baby boy. Oh the other woman to

my baby boy. Oh okay. I at first I felt like they were being he She and the sister gave up such bad vibes, and at first I thought it's because they felt uncomfortable because they had to life for because they knew he had like two other girlfriend will the dad's gives that like toast where he likes says something about being mom did. She goes, I'm gonna rip of cheers like Jed said, I'm gonna rip a cheers the person mom goes, that's alright, I break up with

him here. Sorry this is awkward, but I can no longer see you. Sorry, family cheers, And then the mom goes, the mom goes, here's its tost everyone trusting their intuitions and their truths. Every day. When you stick to your truth, it's beneficial to everybody. Is she calling her son a liar? Yeah, that's trust your gut, fucker, because he is not available. Trust your instruition. Even the sister kind of seemed like a mean girl, like she liked the other she was.

She was like, I don't think it would be good for it was just with every the dad goes, Look, she seems she looks like a hoot. I get it, but I can't get my head around. I can get myself and these hardy pants, but I can shave my my facial hair down and go you know what, I will leave that one square. And yet kid can't kid Now. There's a news story in the news today about apparently said going public on Instagram and type like publishing a letter on Instagram asking fans to stop going after him,

and he said that he was getting death threat that there. Yeah, that he that now his mom and dad's sister are getting attacked well on Twitter and Instagram. I'm not I'm not going to attack them. I am going to say they're not attacking them. They don't have to listen to mom and the sister seemed unpleasant, but if they'd like to. They may have been struggling, and they may have been struggling with the fact that they know that they the guy cheating. And to the she goes. She goes, if

it's a career, She goes, your music career. They're all protecting his career. That's not working. And then he goes, I'm here for it. And then and then the mom goes, well, look must be really, Hannah. It's a dreamy way to fall in love. I get it. He's just another guy. You are the bachelorette, and he's just another guy. She goes, well, I told him I was falling in love with him. She goes, well, I didn't say. That's all them just bangs and out of van, talking like she needed a

good inch cut off those banks. That's all I could focus on, having had banks I've had, I need to know. I need my banks to be where I need him to. Bangs are tough, and bangs are great. Bangs are great when they're great, and they really burn a little bit. Do you ripped the banks for I ripped him? I'm gonna rip a toast. I'm gonna rip a bang. I had a solid bang that I wanted to look like in nineteen seventies, like French new wave movie star. And on a once in a while I could get that

vibe down. But generally on in a show, they would make me look like a Reba McIntire. No, I thought you looked very. I thought it was very. It was sixties. It was a little bridge part. That's what I wanted, That's what I want, That's what I wanted. But I would do it on the but on shows until like like movie or TV sets, they would style me and invariably I would look like an eighties country western. They couldn't They didn't know what they don't know what to

do with the bay um. So then so then then the mom goes, well, he's lived his life, he's had his heartbroken. He's a musician. You don't get a diploma. You don't get a diploma. He couldn't go work full time. It's like, yeah he could. He could have a fucking day job like a lot of people. Yeah, he can have a job and try to be like he just dripper. That's some of the time he's just stripper. I didn't

like that. That felt weird. I also felt like they were all kind of like they didn't like him, or they were trying to say something was wrong with him. I don't know if it was just that they're trying to say that he had a girl friend, like it really felt like they were trying to say, like he's an idiot, Like that's the way I felt that they were all trying to, like trying to hint, like, oh, he's just a book and can't sit in the classroom taking information, use that information to take a test and

get a grade. He doesn't. It's an interesting thing to say to someone who might marry your son, like he's going to make a living and it will be on you. It feels like he can pay all the bills because he's on a different path. And it's also like they know, they know he's a stripper. They can't say it right, they know, like this guy is a disaster. This guy is a failed musician who's a part time stripper who will not get a real job, and you're gonna like

this isn't the trying to warn her away. Maybe that's what it was. Yeah, maybe they seem like jerks when in fact they're trying to do the right and the sister gets I'm very protective of dad. I'm not sure this is a good thing. It doesn't feel right to me. It was just awful. And then and then they go, well all the things we do for love, and I was like, you guys are awful. So before we get to the road ceremony, anything else on Jed's family. That

mom is a lush She was fucking sister too as well. Yeah, they were. There was all this family members or like family that we never even met, or anyone who's introduced to and they said it another pick, like the cast off, the relatives, cast off, it is that and you didn't did introduce us? Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, And then you can't get a big those the ones who would be like, he's got girlfriend. That's a girlfriend and the mom that's

right now that is yeah. Yeah, it's just it's it's it's a mix between the like getaway, he's a starving artist and also almost being entitled. Yeah, he's just starting your job to support that. You need to understand that. Don't clip his wings and you've got to pay the way. Like my mom was always like now that's what you sign up for. Yeah, you know what I mean. And she's right, yeah, and she's right, it's our choice to suffer out here. Yeah, you know, like get it, like

and if you have to get a job, get a job. Also, I feel like they should all just be like, well, you know this will be good for him because he'll become an Instagram model. So yeah, yeah, use career. That's going nowhere. So then they go to the roads ceremony. She's in her green dress and she has like a full blown panic attack, and we can see her like this, I don't I don't um first up surprising Peter, second Tyler.

So she's down to the two dudes and she's told to camera that she's falling in love with I was stunned. Do you think it's because I know I might have asked this earlier, but I'm just gonna bring it around because all but on a journey to it might be part two again? But like, is it because Jed's family scared her off? And she's like, well, I can't pick Jed because they're telling me he's not available. Is that why? She?

Like I want to funk all four of them? But like, why Why were those two the final two that she was debating between, Like, if those are the two that she was in love with, why didn't they get roses? And then it was between Peter and Tyler. I don't know. I mean, I who was she going to cut? Understand why Luke has gotten this far. I feel like she was going to cut Jed because his family was like

he's not available. Yeah, I got that. I think she picked Tyler and Peter because they were the safest options for her, because both the families were like, he likes you a lot, and then like Jed family was like run, and then Luke's family was like lord, So then he goes, I can't make a decision. I want to dive in. You know, when I closed the door in a relationship, it's shut. But my door is not a shot. So basic needs. Did you funk off four of them? Yeah?

I think she just needed more time, Like she wasn't ready clearly send Luke home, but like she couldn't do it. She wants to keep Louke. Well, she just didn't want to make the decision, which is what everyone else prior has had to. You have to to do it. I wish they made her pick. It bothered me. That would have been dramatically and I think it's a testament Yet again, I'm sorry, where who are these producers? She's getting too much, Like I don't like how much special treatment she's because

she survivor. Every week somebody goes home that weird see where she's has a paying attack. She kind of looks off at a producer and then she like walks away. She's tearing that rose apart. And then and then there's nothing Chris like where the fund is Chris Harrison. It'sn't just in the next room. And there's like a glass of wine behind her on the table, but she's already a couple of glasses. It's a mess. And then finally fucking Harrison shows up. He's like, what's going on? What happened?

Come right there? Right there? And then I love my favorite thing, which made me love Tyler even more. As he went over to Jet he was like, oh, come on, man, you got this. It's total blowney. If she picks the other guy, just at only if he picks the other guys,

I love him. I felt like that was a little mean girls of them to do, though then to just yeah, deserves because also like those three guys, they seem that genuinely be friends with each other, and by the way that they're all trying to fund the same girl, but they're being nice to each other. Yeah, I don't know. I just I don't know. I don't know. I think it was it was a very It was a stark image that he was standing alone and those three guys were talking to each other. I don't have clarity. I

don't know what to do. I'm frustrated. I just I can't give out all my final rows. I want to funk all of you and Windmills. It was. It was and then but then when when Chris Harrison brought them, he said, he seemed a little pissed. And then he was like the roses you requested and walked away. Oh my god. That was that was You're right now that that was a little bit of a bitch movie. That was like a fuck you. I think he was feeling fun. You do you think he's written? Oh you think, I

bet you anything. Chris Harrison was saying, this is not how we do the show. This is right of the existence of this show. And I'm the president of Bachelor Nation, and I think he genuinely cares about Bachelor and Bachelorrette. I think he's genuinely invested, and I think whoever's running the show now, these young kids last say over Chris Harrison, and I bet that's a bitter pill to swallow for him. I like the roses you requested. Yeah, it feels like

these people know who they want. You know pretty early on who you're who you know? May be confused. I don't know. Maybe I'm not a two time and kind of get yeah, but I can't imagine it's open for four. Imagine I can't even have another one besides my husband. I don't have the energy totally, because you gotta at least be saying, well, I know I want Tyler. Then who else are you thinking about? Who are you thinking about when you go to bed? Who are you think

you know in the morning? You know, just literally look at them one by one and be like, who do I like the most? I guess she said that. She said, I thought I would walk in here and I thought I would look at you all and I would know. And I think she genuinely doesn't know. I was stunned. Peter made the cut. He's the one to get cut. It just feels it feels like she's not as into him. Yeah, I thought Peter was gonna get cut, and then when Peter got a rose, until I got a rose, I thought, oh,

Jed's getting cut. I thought Jed was getting cut because because we know there, and then because his parents were just shooting everyone in the foot, like get out. I don't know. We have some new reviews on iTunes five stars, but it says put Epps out sooner my favorite Bachelor podcast. But I wish the episodes are cut at that day after the show, which airs in my mind is fresh

from BBF. Guys, we we got to record it on Tuesday, and then we have to edit it, and then Anna has to make the flyers, and then it just takes the whole thing. That's why I want to stay. I wish time travel people. I understand we have things going on. It takes time. Five Stars the whitest show commentated on by the whitest whites You've ever heard. I need a purview into white culture than this podcast is for you.

Do you like The Bachelorette doesn't matter? Listening to art and is always delightful and it's the best most of the commentary they stopped writing. That was from Travis. I am very white. I'm sorry, I'm so white? Is it very I'm sorry? Yeah? And to bring that Islam vibe. Yeah yeah, I'm like, we need a goal from Islam. That's exactly why we found her. I mean, yeah, Anna's Iranian. I mean I can't I'm sorry, I can't help it. I wish I was more interested. I wish I was

more anything, but this is who I am. I'm sorry, but I'm glad you liked the podcast. Five stars Katie d with a dollar sign. Is it's you, Katie, Katie Dip. This podcast is so joyful and hilarious and Cilia and tweet art and friends maybe laugh out out every episode. Guaranteed, it's not only a podcast about the greatest TV show on Earth, but it's also about friendship, is sometimes grief, and sometimes hot tubs. Thanks for creating such a pod that's so true. I bet nobody else is doing a

podcast with that combom. I don't think so. I don't think so. I think that that's all right. And then I loved that email about the boners, where you can email us at Rose podcast at gmail dot com. So many boners. Um, let's see if we have any more emails, and then will you help me pick a tweet of the week? Ada. This was last night at midnight, so I'm sure more came in. There was like eighty great, there were so many yere than in. I just sent her. This is from Shabrina z. Oh my god, aren't and

you serious about your amazing race application. I'm an amazing race fanatic. Tell me, email me what what I can do to win. I want to go on amazing race with Lance Bass for real, I want to go on it. I don't think i'd win. I don't. I have a fear of heights and I'm weak. Stop seeing you have a fear of heights. You're right, You're right, you're right. Okay, great, okay, okay, okay, right here we go. So here we are. I'm gonna give you, um, I'm gonna give you some tweets of

the week. And I chose too many. It's hard to narrow it down from eighties. I think I have like nine. Okay, here we go. Let's just start at the top. This is from empty at Mollusk Phelan. The people that made a luke should have been the title of a nineteen

fifties horror movie. That's a good one. This is I'm Better than Ben Shapiro at Andrea underscore Shapiro the two occasions I hear someone so obsessed with showering on a reality show, Our contestants on Survivor and Luke whenever he's on the screen Chazz at Thorium underscore Dragon, Um, why is Luke's hometown day on a family reunion in a cracker barrel? Yes? Okay? Uh? Seth Vat at base Bone one who who you can really cut the sexual tension

with a prayer circle? Here Cheyenne Constant at Trixie Firecracker trying to figure out how Jed got on the show. My theory he tried out for Idol, got rejected before getting to the panel and saw another ABC casting line and said, okay, Cheyenne Constant at Trixie Firecracker. You know how you see the family of a person who's done something horrible on the news and they are shocked because he's always such a good boy. That's Luke's family. This

is John Moore at Real John Moore. So Peter Pilot is Peter Pilot Jr. That sounds like a Nickelodeon cartoon. A scrappy little kid from a multi lingual flying family who all have their heads in the class um. Abbey Rose at Abbycat Underscore Rose a plan to bone for dudes of the fantasy sweets. Nice work, Hannah, that's some divine shower Jesus intervention right there. Jesus told me how

to fund them all. Here's two more. Britt Paulson at Beer Ritt right now for me, Jed's mom's bangs or this season's biggest antagonist, Jazz at three I'm underscore Dragon. Luke's brother learned his lesson after the first broken arm. Tell no one that Luke is violently Here's one final two more. Lauren at Underscore Purple Underscore Hayes Hey, I just met you and this is crazy, but everyone hates your son and I'm not sure I like him. And then Lauren at Purple Underscore hayes w W s j D.

What would shower Jesus do? All right, I'm gonna narrow it down to these two. Lauren at Purpose Score Underscore Hayes Hey, I just met you and this is crazy, but everyone hates your son and I'm not sure I like him either, And I'm gonna go act to the first one, which is which is Empy at Malls feeling the People That Made a Luke should have been the title of a nineteen fifties horror movie, People That Made

a Luke? Or I Hate your Son? Oh? I like them both so much, and I'm gonna go with the first one of people that Made a Luke and I hate your son, Katie, I hate your son. Oh the w is empy at no no, no no, sorry. The winner is I was wrong the movie Lauren at pep Score at Hayes. Hey, I just met you and this is crazy. But everyone hates your son and I'm not sure I like them either. Oh my so good. Follow us on Instagram. I'm at Arta marine A R D A M y R I N. I have Instatiable coming

up season two. Sometimes this fall. I'm writing a book that will be out in twenty Rob, what do you have? Um at r O Benedict on Instagram and Rob Benedict on Twitter. And I've got the uh we're starting shooting the final season of Supernatural? Are you playing Shower? Jesusus Paget Watch Criminal Minds? It re runs on any Ion, CBS,

all Access in Netflix, Decktails on Disney. Yes, Dann Katie, I don't know my podcast ethnically ambiguous, if you know, love the Middle East and The Bachelor and shout out to House and settles Verdie my friend in Arizona who let me stay with her, who's a huge fan of the show. She's okay to have literally nothing adopted petop the pet. Everybody scared her fireworks right, yes, yes, yeah,

the shelters are full. Shelters are still full. So go foster an animal if you can, adopt an animal, if you can, especially here in l A. Okay, and if you hired me to write a song and or make a video, I'm on it this week. I'm back to civilization, all right, you guys, please don't forget the party. I can't wait for next week when she funked somebody and win know and then send showerges as home bless Oh yeah, I'm gonna get all up and getting at it feels

so good. I just gotta wonder the blessings here. When you reaccept this role over you accept this role unto your word, shure your accept this rose into your word.