"HOOVER KISS!" w/ Rob Benedict and Bachelor Historian Lori

and I brought in. I brought in my friends. This is a party with friends. This is a party with friends long distance with us. Today is a man God. Is he gonna find love? Is he gonna find love? We're so worried about him. You know him as God on Supernatural, like he does go from like heaven to hell because he's also on Lucifer. Excuse me as a frenchman. I don't know. I don't know what can't he do? But most importantly he's Bachelor of the Year and two

and one. Will he find love? Ladies and gentlemen, our friend, we love him. Bachelor of the Year. Rub better day, Thank you, Thank you, thank you. It's so lovely to be back. And I'm so happy about Bachelor in Paradise. I legit can't wait for every new episode. I love it. I gotta tell you we're back and I and every episode eads my soul. And I got to say, even though I loved David Spade, I think our friend Lance Bass should be made permanent host. I think he's so

warm and compassionate with them. I am loving our friend Lance as also. I would be great. You would also be We would be a great duo. We would give Look, I like Tasian Caitlin, but I feel like you and I as a tag team host, like come on, male, female, please excuse me. We could really go like please excuse me, You're welcome. Please excuse me, thank you, you're welcome. I could be like Kenny talk to me, get so reasonable, like who knew are all boy band cover band managers?

So reasonable? Like he's he's so levelheaded. I have a my crush has moved from Brendan to Kenny. I loved Kenny let he was so kind of not he was not a motive, was just very he was he got hurt, he could see he was hurt. He was also excited because he had a good point, like he had a good he had good leverage. Yes, but he wasn't even like too much of a dick about it, Like he was a very fair I felt that he was a

fair prosecutor. Well, also also with us as a person that's going to weigh in, this is a woman whom we really bring me when we need, when we need the ken Burns of the Bachelor world. She is a she's like it's like having Yoda or you know, it's like really that level of like an obi one kind of coming in, come to us, talk to us. She is our bachelor historian. My friend Laurie, Well, what it's nice to see you. Thanks so much for having me here.

How did you feel about um, about David Spade and Lance Bass overall, because you've seen every iteration and Dave Chappelle and and then justin t great the bicycles. Yeah, I think that your buddy Lance is doing spectacularly. I really appreciated, Uh, David Spade though, I have to say it was great. He was great arcasm. I liked how he made fun of them. They were smart to cast super fans because both of them are super fans of the show. And you could see that we know from

Lance because he did the podcast last week. You could it felt like what David Spade is. You could see they were both excited to be in the Machine of Paradise. Yeah, it wasn't just like a casting stunt and they hadn't like they knew how exciting it. It would be like if you were super into like Harry Potter and you got to go to like Hogwarts totally. But is Little Wayne the next one? Is he next? I believe? So yeah, little little way it is coming up and I think

it's a little John little thank you. And then we also have um um from from Kimmy Schmidt. Uh Titus, Yes, and I think he's also a super fan. But he's coming in hot with the facts, coming in hot with the fats. The production team Dr Tanna, Banana, Anna Hostia and Katie Levane helping us discern our little Wayne smart little bit. After you did a bit about Lance Armstrong, you then did that's a little little you know what you gotta just that's that that what it is, what

it is, it is, what it is Murphy's law. How are you, Tanna, how are you Katie Levine, are are you so happy? I'm back at my WiFi. I am so happy that it sounds better and I don't have to try to clean it up and post. You know what, you did a great job. You're a wizard. And um god, was it such a joy to come home to my cat and and watch this program. Let's get going, I gotta tell you. So we start out incredible. I don't know that we've been in the boom boom room morning

after this early on in the season. I loved it. I love seeing Morerisa and Riley waking up and then the editing that the Chef's kiss of the editors. Connor busy like doing like dipshit things in his room, like playing with the ukulele, and we still hear like soft moans. She's like Connor's a sweetheart, but Riley is literally everything every woman wants. I mean, he completely blow me up.

Like it was just like groans and like as she was talking, she was reorgasming again thinking about it in the audio, Lorie, and did you love the disgusting audio? How did you feel? I'm fully on board with Morris and Riley. I think they're super cute. They're actually refreshingly normal. Uh, you know, and I feel bad for Connor. You know, I'm a little bit of a Connor defender, and Riley certainly doesn't excite me a whole bunch, but he certainly doesn't seem like a jerk. And I think I think

Marissa is just spectacular. But she's getting a lot of online bullying apparently because she was in the boom Boom room and not Riley's not getting any online bullying. But no, so they're like slut shaming the woman. No, oh god, are you serious? God, I mean, like, don't they after this whole sex positive season we just had, couldn't they know? Like, yeah, like people have sex. Yeah, well well this episode is the sex negative episode. Great, So people, what are they

saying to her? Well, you know, I think they're just harassing her online so much that she did a Poe post and then Riley did a post saying that he actually calling out the double standard. Um, yes, anyway, like who cares? Throw up people? That's so lame, everybody. Look, I loved it. I love it. I am here for it. Yeah yeah, yeah, I I Connor. I just I respect Lauria, respect your opinion. It's the it's the mature opinion. Connor. To me, he just such a boob. I like laughing

at him. He's everything I don't want to be as a songwriter. Yes, there's a fellow guitar playing guy who writes songs like no, let me ever be that guy. He brings it, he brings his like um, his journal to to breakfast. Did you notice that he brings breakfast?

You know? After no ye? Just to chop down some thoughts, It's funny when when there's characters on that show you your secret fear of, like the worst side of what you could be unchecked like and it's actually good to witness of, like okay, right right right, Like don't don't

be like that? Like if ever, if there's a society of you that gets nervous and panicky and thirsty, like There's been certain characters that I felt that way in a lot of the Real Housewives franchise, Like sometimes I felt that way watching Tinsley fight, um, like when she would panic and fight with Dorinda and she was so bad at it. Now Anna knows what I'm talking about, but I would worry that I had a little Tinsley in me. I have a little ta a little bit crazy.

Do you do you do you what flavor? Yes? You're like and then I can't pee and pooh? That was like wait what that was like an edit of like, wait, you can't pay? Like I understand traveling and getting constipated like that happens, but like, girl, what do you mean you can't pay? Katie's leading forward. Katie talked to us as Anna's assistant, as a as a resident and Anna's medical college. Tell us what what is that? You know know? I thought I actually rewound because I was like, did

I miss something that she said earlier? Like why can't she pee and poop? And she doesn't mean like she there's no privacy? Is you know the travel getting to hers? Isn't she too hot? I didn't. I didn't get it now now as you're saying this. As you say this, I actually went to Toloom on my honeymoon, and I wouldn't recommend because it is they don't have plumbing to the pint, like you have to throw all toilet paper in the trash can. And I'm not sure there was

a door that went top floor to ceiling. It might have been like a saloon situation. So I may have not pooped for like a week, you know what I'm saying. I think that might have just been not Either way, it's not sexy Katie leading for her here. I'd be like, hey, guys, we all got a ship. There's a book about it. You're freer than I am. I'm not saying that I'm right. I'm saying I'm a repressed New Englander. That was the all me. Now I'll just go and me and Kenny.

When Kenny and I go on our honeymoon, it's gonna be a poop fest. Dr Banana, how are you? I'm good, I'm good. I'm just listening to you guys and wondering would I be able to know you couldn't you? Could you? You would be open, but you'd be like Zach, get out. You would say, get out, I need to poop. I just acted like I'd sewn up that, like my I didn't have any more intestines, so I didn't need to poop. It's like not a thing I don't have that I don't.

I don't. All those tacos, they just they don't go anywhere, just go in and stay anyway. Um, that's professional denial. That's professional. Oh oh, you ain't seen nothing yet, so that may have. Um Ivan thinks that he and just sending it are exclusive. Which as soon as you see that editing, you know, like storms a broom, whenever somebody says oh no, so and so like as soon as on the date later, as soon as grocery store Joe, who is winning me over? Winning me over? I didn't

know what you had said before. Yes, I had not said on air the rumor that we heard from somebody. I'm also I'm because we have heard that. I'm I go back and forth, but I'm torn anyway. But as soon as he said, I would feel nothing. If Kendall came in, you know, you knew Kendall is gonna descend. I mean, there's no way Kendall wasn't like on a jet pack flying over the resort. Okay, so then he So then we have incomes Chris and Chasin the Smoke Brows.

So it's like they were the ones that everybody got mad about the Smoke Show. I did enjoy the sweet what is what is the sweet Canadian that we all love? So Arena Serena saying what woman like that they were thought it was mad to be called a smoke show. It was like every woman wants to be called a smoke show. I made T shirts about it. I made O G Smoke Show t shirts. I'm hoping people see me in my T shirt and say, oh, you are the O G Smoke Show. Um. So then they're like,

boy did they edit? They really played up the bromance of these two coming in and they're like, well, there's a beach full of smoke shows to smoke bros looking for smoke shows, and if they don't find that, they can walk off into the sunset together. Here we go, let's lock arms Chris and Jason. I don't even know what to say. Neither of those guys have have game at all now, Like chastened to me is a good look. It looks like a good looking dude on paper, right eyebrows.

And but then he'd sit down and be like, so the beach and stuff, like he just said nothing. Is he a dumb dumb? He be a dumb dumb? Lorie? Do you think he's a dumb dumb? I think he's I think I think he's a dumb dumb. I mean, but he was going up against Carl so that that was Jason's competitionary. It was like the Battle of the over by its good each other. You know, it's I really actually I don't know who I would have picked

with those two. I mean, DeAndre is a total babe getting pulled in a tug of war between like like, where's the soft place to land for DeAndre? I mean, she's like she's a smoke show Katie. Katie wants to hop in. I love it. I love seeing it. You guys, you didn't bring up the most important thing. Who the fuck is Chris? You've never seen that guy before, he has never been on the show. Great point, we don't know who he is. I've never seen that point before

in my entire life. That's exactly what Mitten scream when she saw Mittens goes. Mitts took her thumb and then she signed to me, who the funk is that? That's what? Who is he? He go out night? Number one? Clear? Yeah, So there's no way that a they're saying allegedly that SENI like that was her number one, Like she was talking about another Chris. Sorry, she was talking about another Chriss. She was not talking about that guy. Nobody knows who

he is. I'm convinced of it, except for she except for her panties, started doing backflips when she's fucking did like mouth baby bird Strawberry feeding time, like, I just I can't. Apparently she hung out with him before the ship. Okay, that's why we have you on, Laurie. That's why we have you on. Tell us everything, tell us more, tells everything. All right, you need to come out every week, Larry. So I guess, Oh my god, this is so utterly depressing that I know this, but but that's why I'm

here for you. So there was some sort of screenshot of maybe uh a social media post that she did where um, she was hanging out with him, and so I think they had some interaction prior and so she and she acted like she hadn't met him. That's bullshit. And she was like so on her high horse, like calling out that she would not like that from another gal, you know what I'm saying. And yet good for her. Yeah, I like her. I like her too. She's I just don't see, she says. He he ticks that final box

for her. I know, spark, which is the spark. I just what, Strawberry. I can't I mean Ivan is the whole package. Like, Ivan is so hot, Ivan is an engineer, he's cool. Uh Tanna as a medical sex theist? What is this chemical reaction? I mean we haven't gotten to the date yet, but like, did you see something as a physician that we didn't see her? No? No, not at all. I don't know what's going on. I'm not buying it. I've honestly never really been a fan of

your sand There's something about her. I don't trust her. I thought she pretended to be some like ally of of non bullying and then in the end turned around and bullied the minivan girl, which I was like, okay, sorry she showed up, but you're still being a bully. So I'm not rapiant. Sorry. I've always been a little like about her, so I don't know. This feels weird

to me. I felt like she had a better spark with Ivan, and this guy is like like I feel like I have face blindness with him, Like I can't picture what he looks like right now, like at all. I just know he exists and I'm just not buying it. Sorry, I'm going to add something. I feel like I have a groove in my brain that has jumped a from like one lane to the next. Is it Yessenia or just Senia. I think it's just Sena because I work with four Yessenia's and now my mind is a mess. Sorry,

people called her Yessenia last night. There was a few people who said, Yesenia. I think it's spelled with a y. Then if it's Yesenya, isn't it. Well I've seen it spelled with a why though as well? I don't know because I know that I know. The reason I've said just Senia was because Miles always does all right, Hey, yeah, I just say that's why I always I Then I thought, okay, all right, I just want to make sure I got

a right. He would know. I feel I just want to make sure I got it right because I get a little groove in my brain and I say things wrong. Well, there is there you can't There is Yessenia with a y the name as well. But yeah, I think you're right that like some places, the j obviously is like sounds. I just feel like last night people were there's a few people saying that, yeah, and then Anna just said ya, And then I thought, Emma, I like my aunt that

forgot so I just wanted to check in. Okay, great, so um so here we go. So uh, Chason pulls Deandra. He also pulls Mari um and the Mari starts doing a long winded thing basically like excited that he pulled her, but like trying to explain how she didn't feel like she was exactly on the same page as Kenny, but that she felt like she really liked Kenny but she wanted to be able to explore. This was the beginning of my favorite narrative of the evening, which we will

get to my favorite madness. This is where we saw that Mari sabotage. She was a little self sabotaging. She had a blind spot on on her communications. So this it starts here like this weird, very roundabout so she's like, we're still we're on the same page, but it was very like, you know, we're together, but we're not fully together.

But I want to explore but I don't know, but I want somebody that like, one time, once we're both them, we can fully commit and told them we can go on dates if you I mean, he was like, Chasen just thought this is too high maintenance. Let me go pull just Henny. He goes, she's gorgeous. So they ask out Deandra and just Senia, and I gotta say both of them walked out without saying goodbye to I, Evan or Carl. Both of them were like, boy, bye, How

did you feel about that, Rob? As a gentleman, if your lady friend that you thought you were in a twin it with just walk past you, how would you feel? Uh? Not great? Not great? No, no, And and that this is the part of the show where I'm like, well, that would be me. I'd be that would be me being you know, sad on the rocks you'd be taking. You'd be like grocery store Joe, can you move over? This is my racket now? Um? Yeah. It wasn't great.

And then I realized, like because I thought, yeah, I didn't my first instincts like no one's gonna fall for these two dubes. I know I was shot. I couldn't I put money last week on with with Lance. I I put money on Ivan and just Senia going for an engagement. I realized after that amazing day and then the underwater cross shot, I thought Katie's leading forward talked

to us Katie Iveice today she's coming in hot. And I love just gonna say, well, Lances quite a poker face because we all were like, oh, just Sena and Ivan are the real deal, and he just love it. Razzle is really good, Razzle dazzle given. Yes, he's got a pogerphase. I love that he didn't blow it for us because I feel like everyone else has always blown it for us. When they know things, they go I don't know mebe like they think they're hiding it. But

he's he's our true poker face. Okay, So then they go out, they're excited to go on. The day is a double date. There's a lady there playing the flute. There's a big bed in the middle. She's an intimacy guru, Rob, Were you an intimacy gururu for a few years in the odds? Yeah, right at the beginning of the odds for a couple of years, um, you know, just getting by between jobs. But I liked it. I did like it in Studio City Studio, City Studio. Yeah. I like

the guru part of it. Sure, sure, sure, sure, So that the huge bed Deandre's nervous carl. Meanwhile, back at the back at the ranch is freaking out. He was I need mi lady. So they're like, okay, so you're

gonna blow all over top to bottom. Somebody tweeted it and pointed out, in the era of COVID, maybe doing a thing where you don't blow on somebody tip to toe, that's a good points, a good point blowing to toe side by side like like a blowjob, like, but actually blowing tip to toe until I was also thinking, like, what if you're not into that guy as a woman on the on that date, one of those two women, And that's where I was like, what if what if she's not into him? What if you're on a date

with Chason, is what you're saying. What if you're with you look up and there's chases and just blowing on your face? That would just be weird During COVID, Laurie, how did you feel about the intimacy grew date, the blowing on the bed. I'm mean, I wanted to wrap myself in saran wrap while watching it. It was so painful, and you know what I mean. Granted, my intimacy pretty much extends to clipping my wife's toenails, but oh my god, can we tell everybody what happened. Okay, okay, okay, honestly

they did not. Ok Here, here's the story is. So we have two children and we have the zoom parent teacher conferences and and so I and I finished the one conference earlier and my wife's on the other one and we're both just upstairs videos off in the uh just in the bed, nothing, you know, just just being lazy and uh. And so she was still watching our older child's uh PTA conference and um, I was doing some physical work during the day, and I'm like, oh,

my feet. Really her, so she she took my my my foot that was giving me a foot rob rub and then this has never happened. And then like the eleven years we've been married, then she's like, oh, I think I'm gonna I think I'll just clip her tonnails. And then the teacher said something and then I and then I look, I look over and I say, you hears not Oh god, off, you're even just because the kid then you can't see that, but you're you know, like you can't see your face, does me now you're

not on camera? And then the tea was like, you know, you know what, well, we'll send him the recording now to the glass. Anybody missed it And I was like, oh wait. I was like, I'm not gonna watch that video, like I need like your tough is by your wife. We've been together forever. I'm what happened. That is so o my god. That is oh my god, that's so good. All Right, we're gonna take a quick break. We're gonna leave you with that, and we're gonna be right back.

And you guys got a nice I know that you need a cool down drink to like cool off after that. And it's so hot. I got hot. Oh I need a sexual time out. And we're back. So then, um Deandra, we're back with the with the with the blow the blow into missy Guru. She's like, normally I don't want to be touched, which is hard for an intimacy date on television. She goes, but I'm comfortable with chase him.

And then uh, just Senia is like so horny for Chris, who doesn't exist, as Katie pointed out, who we do not know. She thinks she's never been a cast member. And then they pulled out the ancient secrets of the Karmas Sutra, and then they had to do every position and they're like, this is the turtle. This is by the way, those ladies were so flexible. If I was supposed to put my unkle on somebody's shoulder, I think my hips can open like one degree. Like literally, I

couldn't even put him on somebody's thigh. Like what like, do you want to get some bad footage? JBC send me on an intimacy guru date and had me do the kmmis future position standing up doing a full split on somebody's shoulder, Rob, how did you feel watching that? Incredibly uncomfortable? Again, I would like to have seen something where the woman offered consent. Yes, it just didn't feel right, like, hey, I just met you, and now you're gonna ride me backwards?

You know what I mean? It's just okay, agreed, Yeah, Lorie, I mean you're talking to somebody who can barely tie your shoes. But I you know, I was mainly confused by the book and the way the way Kama Sutra was spelled. Yeah, I thought, is that is that Maybe it's a different kind of Maybe it's it's the Spanish version that's what I thought, or maybe it's the one that was like that they could get cleared by ABC. It was like, you know what I mean that, he says.

So then Chris goes, do I kiss j Senia And she goes, I've been waiting to see you. So then they are they're like, they're they're chatting, they're having champagne, his drawberries. She's like, you know, I'm taking off all the boxes. I haven't ticks all the box, but one thing is missing with ivan, you seem to fill it.

And then she sticks the strawberry in her mouth and like she and she said she really liked she was horny for strawberry kiss to the point where she kept putting in like loading the strawberry like pez dispenser, sticking out in her mouth, like feeding the baby bird the strawberry like she she thought that was like the sexiest. She loved loved it. And you know what, good for her, like good for her to know that's my thing. It's a simple thing. It's a cheap thing of strawberries. I

can execute this easily. Nobody gets hurt. Anna. Have you ever fed zach fruit with your mouth? No, I wouldn't even think of that as like a thing to do. I would have never crossed my mind. Has anybody here ever had food fed to them mouth to mouth? I mean, yeah, but it's sure you have Laura, you have me and I probably did seek it up. But it's still grows Back in the day, I remember that Laurie and I liked it. I loved it. I was here for it.

I was here for it. There was like a window in time where Laurie was like, I'm a rascal, show me the strawberries. Yeah, right, house Again, I traveled there and I would just load it up. Yeah, and then okay, So then um so then they were like, oh they love it. The fruit in the mouth. Meanwhile, Demi, back at the ranch, tells Ivan that he needs to mingle. He's like, She's like, look, I'm sorry, man, she you

were one of two. Everybody knew she wanted you and Chris, so I actually this was a moment in the show where Demi was okay and she had at this moment she had his back and she's like, look, the women of the Roses, So if you want to be here, you should at least go chat with somebody else. Yeah. I like her. I think she really brings a lot to the show. She really makes me laugh. She's like the comic relief of the show for me, Laurie and then Katie, because I said, Katie coming in out, Laurie,

you're next. I mean it just depends which version one point or two point we have one point oh again, two point oh was a self realized, the heartfelt, the soft underbelly. Like we with the no bravado last year. We're back to one point oh in one of your time each tarade right like it's completely thirsty and I mean this this version of her, Yes, sure, I appreciate her.

I like her narration. Um, this version, I appreciate you do you do no, no, no of this particular talking to Ivan talking to Okay, Yes, yes, I liked her with Ivan, Katie coming forward, coming in hot, talk to us. Well, I was gonna say that my friend Chelsea Um, she was saying that she likes her because she DEMI is the only person who knows what show she's on, right, And I think that's a very good way to describe him.

And she's also made a career out of it, Like it's fun to watch people that are they're actually looking for love, which is I feel like what Serena is right now. So somebody who just knows what shows her on. She's she's there is basically a cast member of a television program, like I played Demi, but she's not looking to get engaged and she's just going to Chicago to run a grocery store. But even but at the end of the show last night, when she said to Mari, like,

what show do you think you're on? This is what we do? You know what I mean? Like, I don't know, there's like because I just feel like she she actually had a pretty good point in that moment, like Mari was the one who said Marie really screwed. Mari did everything wrong last night. Between who she chose to trust, her identication, I think Demi's I think she's a bright Really, she's smarter than she leads on. I think the conversation that we saw or have with what's his name just

now that we're talking about this is the best version. Yeah, that's her inside, that's her. But that's why I feel like when she does go into at one point, Oh, she's doing it, I don't know, to consciously sort of just to get air time, I think, but also to know that that's what keeps her on the program. Like somebody's addicted to being on television. Tanna, I'm gonna give it to Tanna. No, I agree. I think I think

Demi is one. I think she she enjoys it, like it's fun for her to like, you know, be like the person who goes in and fucking fox things up.

But like I think she like she understand like if she was a secret agent, Like she knows her mission but but it's all but the but to me at a certain point, yes, but I feel like her mission is complete that somebody else's mission now, like you know what I mean, The mission doesn't just go move in forever to Paradise every year to come like with no possibility of ever really falling in love with somebody, because I think the mission also includes falling off anyone. We'll

keep going because we could get stuck on this. We've got we have. There will be many more conversations about Demi coming up. This is just the tiny ivan you need to mingle one. Meanwhile, Abigail gets a bug in our nose and freaks the funk out. Loved it. I'm loving she and Noah. Laurie, how do you feel about Abigail and Noah? I mean, I think they're holly uninteresting but sweet great. I respect that. So then Marie says to Kenny, look, I gotta talk to you, Kenny. I

don't want to have what ifs. You know. I I here, I am on my journey. I want to be able to go if somebody asked me, I want to be able to He's like, all right, so you want me to back off? Just look, I just let's be oh been. He's like, ah no, I don't want this. I don't do this. So it sounds like you want to have your cake and eat it too, which became a recurring

theme of the night. And uh and he's like hurt though he's like he's like, you know, everybody thinks the grass is greener and then you go over to the

grass and it's not greener. Like I liked that. He was sort of like, I've been burned in the past when I haven't been able to commit and I've lost things, and now like as a four year old man on the beach, and like I think he's like, I like Mari, and I'm ready to be a one mary man and I'm committing to it and I don't need to like see if the grass is greener and she's like whoa, whoa woo and um, and then Mari goes, did I just sunk this up? So then she goes and talks

to Demi. Here we go and we're off. Mari goes to Demi. She goes, I just sunk this up. But I'm here to meet people. I have to allow myself to explore things. I have to have the hard conversations. And then she says to Demi, look, I've been pulled by every new guy. And then Demi goes, okay, stop flexing. And then she's like, She's like, look, you know, go go yeah, go be free and then make your moves.

And then as soon as Mary walks away, Demi goes, sorry, I'm going for your man's and uh, and she goes, Kenny, I heard he likes to be naked. I like to be naked. And then she pulls Kenny aside and he says, those cheeks have been out all week, and then she goes, oh, there's my nipple. And then they had the grossest kiss since Connor and the history of television. He'sn't even worse kisser.

Then she is the grossest kiss her They have ever seen, and she goes, I'm trying to go to the boom boom room tonight with Kenny, and Mary's watching it all and she's crying. Robbie, b I'm gonna let you take it off to the This is why I of the show. I mean, the conversation they had to before the kiss was so it was like two It was like it was like a porno It really was watching a porn

star acting. It really was like, there was my Nepp, you like that, and he's like, I kind of do like it, and then he kind of bit her lip in a weird way with his lips, like their lip with his lip. He did like a I mean, and of course cue the tears from Marie. That's why I watched the show. I guess That's what I'm saying is you write, whatever demise reasons are probably not like the best, most honorable reasons, but it's sure it's fun to watch.

She's a fun she's a fire starter, she's she is Drew Barrymore and fire starters, or Lourie talked to us. I mean, it was like a back gume cleaner show. It was she's so thirsty that she turned from a straw sucking like the same into like enormous vacuum cleaner, just liiva out of his mouth. And so you know she's the last person that Murray should have been talking to about this. Yeah, and you know she and you're right and that she and Connor are complete kissing soul mates. Yea,

that needs to happen. That needs to happen. But it was it was. I mean, the quality of the banter a lot to be desired. God, do you have any of that written down? Ard? And what they said in that conversation, it was just like you know, it was about the nipple. It was about the cheeks hanging out like a body of bodies, of bodies a body, I said Katie wanting to get in. I love it. This episode struck a nerve with Katie talked to us, you wanted to comment on the kissing style. Yeah, because first

of all, Connor is a bad kisser. I don't think DEMI I think she's just trying to eat your face. I don't necessarily I think I would like it was. It was bad in like a different way. I think together they would like be the worst kiss in the whole world. It has to happen. We have to see it. Yes, that's what it is. Yeah, I've never seen a kiss like that. I literally, I mean you also, you're on TV as like the Vixen. You know what I mean.

You're like, I'm gonna take your man watch out. I look good, So like be a really good kisser, do you know what I'm saying? Like nobody wants to keep kissing somebody that eats their face, Tanna, where does this kissing style come from? Your? Doctor? Doctor? Doctor? How does this happen? It did feel like like a porn in the sense that they're like acting like it's it's so hot that you're like, is it I don't know, I'm

not it's that hot. I mean he was like, oh my, oh my god stopped like yeah, you know how he was like paying the camera up, you know, leave something to a mystery. That was just like, I know, I also felt like if you're flirting with him, to me, look, I don't know what I'm talking about, but this is my my gut says, play a little more teasing and like give a little kid like have a little fun

of a chase. Like to me, that's more exciting, Like like if you yeah, like, if you're a sure thing, at least like tease it out a little bit, right. I kind of want to kiss you right now, and he's like, do it? I mean, if you did, I kiss you back. Oh my god, I can't believe I would go out with Kenny. Why are we blacking out? Is her vagina hanging out? Or do they just not want us to see? I think she's in a thong. I think she's wearing thong so we can show all

those other things. We can't show a bottom, We can't show tussies. I don't think in America. I don't think we can do thongs. Do you ever wonder what that they just put a black box on something? Even even if there's nothing that I have won, if he wasn't really naked, we asked Lance apparently had a sock on his dick. Okay, sure, but it was just a sock. Okay,

I'd I'd buy that. Yeah, We're like I need to know, but yeah, and then clearly I'm sure ABC was like, Okay, you have to put clothes on, because, like he said, like he did it for one episode and I'm sure standards in practice was like, this is you can't we can't have a naked four year old man on the beach for the entire not the whole month. So then um so then Connor, Oh my god, somebody says to

mauricea have you talked to Connor? And we hear bad boy music and out he comes in his crazy fucking outfit, his matching like romper onesie, like half floral half orange jail stripe. I have to say, I feel like Well has had a lot of good one liners when he insulted him, like the thought like he had like a whole bunch of good one liners. He came dressed to impress in a silk romper, and then he put his foot up. He was a kimono convict him and they kept all the guys were like, that's pretty fire. He

looks pretty fire. I mean, I got to say, I don't know that I could pull that off, but I'd say Connor's pretty bold and fire. That's Aaron obviously, and it's like so then so then there he is in his ridiculous outfit, his like onesie, and he pulls Maurice aside, who's just gotten like banged, like the mast bang of her life in the boom boom room like bone Zone, like happily in the like a successful trip to the

boom Boom room. And he's like standing there like in her grandmother's fucking romper, and he goes, god, you look so hot last night and she was like, uh huh the fuck like and he's like did you come home late? And like and then he was like what are you doing later? She's like, I don't know. And he's like, she's like, look, we have a lot in comment, like what are you doing tonight? You got planned Like I'm trying to put together a date. I'm gonna do a homemade date car to d I y date And she's

like we'll see. And then Taj was like, look they went to the boom Boom room and he was like, whoa, I'm just friendly guy. Everybody left. No, you're just the guy who's trying to get people to listen to your Spotify channel. That's how did he not know that? How did he not read the room on that conversation? How did that was? How was that such a surprise? I

mean you know what I mean? He was like, did you think that well that conversation She's like, He's like, I want to make my own date car for you, and she's like, M like maybe, yeah, she was not interested, Katie, Katie talk to us. I was really kind of piste off that she didn't just come forward with him and just be like, Hey, I had a good time getting to know you, but we really connected. I really like him. I'm going to hang out with him. I relate the

same way that started to interrupt. I saw that I want to keep coming back to you, so don't don't go away, um in the same way, just as you mentioned that, because I don't want you to move on. When Rob said his fear about being the guy with the guitar, my fear would be being on. This would be being like in amor I would also panic and not know how to tell him. Well, it's very hard to tell somebody that you're not into them and there's someone you like more. But I mean, it's just so

much messier to lead someone on. I feel like a clean break is just the best, because I mean, she didn't tell him that, She's just like, oh yeah, I would love that, and then she would have made out with Riley for the rest of the day in front of them. No, it's definitely the kinder thing to do. I'm not proud of the fact that I'm a coward. I'm just saying I watch it and I think, oh my god, that would be me and I would be so at least at least just Sanny I was very upfront,

Like I liked that. I really appreciate it. You know, I don't have the balls. I'm just I wish I was wired more like that, and I'm not. I fear I'm more like, Yeah, I really respected just Senya for really just being absolutely blunt forward. And it hurt Ivan, but he knew. He hurt me too. It hurt me for her saying that I couldn't believe. But I think

it's better to know. Um LORI I completely agree. I mean, I wish that she would have been more direct, but I also appreciated that he was fairly direct with her initially in asking her. You know, he was fishing for information. Yeah, and you know, she just needs to cut the cord on the romper and let him go. She's got to cut the rompers, set the romper free. Yeah, you know, and I I I feel kind of bad for him.

I think I did know He's he seems like a sweet guy, and he's just gonna what did he say he was going to be the friendly guy who everyone I'm just the friendly guy who everybody likes. I've been that, I've been that person. I'm like the fun friend. I've been neutered court Jester to everybody else who was getting lay. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, you knew me that, Laurie. You knew me that. Although I did kiss a lot of people, but that was

in high school. I did not. Um. So then we have, uh, Natasha talks to Lance and she's upset and because she's been mc brendan, and he says to her, how do you feel about the next two days? Um? And she really wants him to kiss her and he hasn't yet, And in my mind, I'm like, just even his phrasing of that, it's like, oh, he just needs to get to the next two days because his lady's coming on day three, like like Piper the rumor like that he

was seeing Piper. So like with him saying how do you feel about the next two days, it's like, Okay, two more days. I was just gonna make it through two more days and then maybe in the next round my lady shows up. I'm so naive. I missed the whole thing. That was when he was on the day with Denny, he was like he was hooking up a Piper and then like and he's like, leeah, but I like you more. But he still hasn't kissed her. I just thought maybe he just wasn't comfortable making out on camera,

you know what I mean? And I'm wrong? Doctor, what is it? Talk to us? What would you say? This is a symptom of Unfortunately, I think he's playing her at least, at least he's a gentleman enough that he's not playing her and also making out with her. He's playing her. He's playing her emotionally, but not he's not taking physical Piper coming to the show. Are we saying that or that's what we're saying? Okay, all right, he's

been seen in the upcoming previews. I'm assuming okay. But then she goes and talks to Lance and Lance is like, you know, I remember you raised your hand and he said you hadn't kissed anybody yet. She's like, still haven't you know? Rumor is he's in a relationship with Piper. That's my big hang up. And then Lance goes, look, what about the initial kiss. She's like, I can't. He's like, girl is one he might like that. So that wash was again I thought lance great job. I thought like

he did a great job. And then Natasha gave Brendan a massage because I gave good massage, and she goes, you're the sweetest man in America. And then they kissed, and then he goes, thank you for that, and then they had a really uneventful kiss. Yeah it was barely a kiss. Yeah, no, I would agree. It's it was

the most minimal, obligatory kiss of all time. And it just seems really apparent that I think he's a nice guy, like I did, a nice guy, and he's just biting his time and doing the minimal amounts so he can still stay there wait for for his person. But Natasha's I just I really feel for adorable and she's sweet and she's cool all of it. Um Okay, So then we have um Joe and Serena grocery store Joe and Serena. Okay, we're gonna take a quick break before this one because

this is a big one. Who I don't know about you, but things again hot here. I think I gotta take your break, we're back and Rob. Rob has a question, why do the date cards go to couples that seemingly are all good and together? My I was thinking about that, and again I say this just as a fan and a viewer like you, so I have no inside knowledge. My gut I was like, that's interesting because we didn't see this card being given, like they didn't need it.

And I thought, I thought the producers really liked Joe. I think the producers in the same way you could tell a couple of years ago, they really liked Ashley I during the Winter Games, like I think they pick I think they like Abigail. I think they pick who they want to sort of have their happily ever after, even though they're going to screw with them, even though they're bringing in Kendall. I think they think this couple

has the chance to go the distance. And also they know Kendall's coming in, so it's like maximum, that's my field that, Yeah, Katie's leving forward, Katie's moving forward. I think it's either that it's to build them up and actually help them create a real relationship, or it's to build them up before they funk with them really hard.

I mean, I think it's probably a combo, but to like almost to make it so like it seems so like, oh, everything is so perfect and then the storm comes in, you know it's I mean, it could be I think not. I think considering the sheer fact that they're like que Kendall, que Kendle down the stairs. I mean, so it seems that it's never truly altruistic completely in the world. So they're in the wrestling ring. I know, Laura, you love her. She she's your number one. She's the best. Me too,

I love her, I love her three. That's only part about that relationship that yeah, that's very young. That's very young. Um. So they're in the wrestling ring and she goes like, huh, Paradise, you hate it there. And then he's like, look, if I'm not going to meet someone, outn't be here, you know, do I want to leave? She's like Joe the loaner, you decided to stay. It's like, look, it didn't work out, but I ended up with a person. She's like Kendall. I know her name is Kendall. Yeah, Candle. I ended

up with Candall. Like okay, so what what happened? Like, look, I know she never wanted to live anywhere besides l A. I'm gonna be in Chicago. And then she's like, all right, well, if she moved to Chicago, would would you be married with kids by? And I was like, who knows, you know, I don't know. Would kinda be happy there? Who's to say, not necessarily? And she's like, and if Mendall comes down, I'd be like, look, it's nice to see her. It's

not romantic anymore. Max, that's it. I'm done. The effort. Novel's not there. And then he goes and then he's like, where do you want to end up? She's like, I want to leave with a relationship all in one Um. He's like, look, I stay because I like you. There could be more. There could be more, and then um and then there, and then he's like she's like, yeah, I know, like I met you. And he's like, you were flustered on the beach. He's like, yeah, I was sweating,

I was thinking about I was sweating. Look, I'm a human. And then he goes, you've been on two dates in a row. I'm on a roll. I'm glad you didn't like him in the end, and then she goes, you want my rose. She's like, yeah, I want your rose? And better? Who is better? Me? Right? Better? Kiss her? And then they get in the ring. He's like, I don't like getting dressed up. This is stupid, but I'll do it, but I don't like it. And then they go kissing, and then he's like, when I'm all in

on somebody, I'm gonna keep fighting for her. I loved it. I've completely turned the corner. I loved Joe now by the way, I find him so handsome. Everybody finds him handsome. Now I would make out with Joe. Oh yeah, And it's I shouldn't. I shouldn't. It's not a good call on my part. Okay, so let me ask you a question. If you take away a smile, you just zip it up. I actually think it's I think his new teeth are two white. I actually would like a slightly real reeler

looking tooth. I don't like caps, Okay, I don't know. They just seem really polished. What do you think, dr I can't tell. Do you think those are caps? You know I come from a cap family. Everyone's capped up in my family. Talk to me. I'm gonna let me go look at photos and I'll get back to you. I can't really examine them. Um, he's got a great smile. Look, I'm a soccer for curly hair, dark haired gentleman. You

know he's my type. Well, okay, so that's what. So ever, since he said at the very beginning, it was like, you know, I should I should have gotten a haircut. I can't. I was looking at his hair and I was thinking, God, you know, he's right, he should have gotten a haircut, because I wouldn't have noticed that. But you know, I will say that in watching them in the ring, she's so playful, and he's just kind of like, I can't possibly play. He just seems so thoroughly ordinary.

I do. Now you're right, he is. I couldn't tell whether he was actually I assume he was joking. They have a little sweet banter going back and forth. But where he was like, and you went on a date and you shouldn't have did that, And I was wondering there for a second, is he I assume he was joking, but is he really joking? He's not. He's not joking. Yeah, you shouldn't have did that, But I read that that's the one thing with school is I think that he's

fully in. But the thing that makes me nervous is she's twenty three, although she feels like her frontal lobe is fully developed. But you know, I'm always doing that. What is it the dividing by two adding seven and thinking, oh my god, the age the age gather? What your that to decide whether somebody is dating out of their age range? You divide their age, right, So a forty year old you divide it by two twenty adds seven. Seven is like the lower range for somebody who's forty.

So you can do that for for any age. And uh and so I am he's like thirty six. Yeah, so anyway, so yeah, yeah, I mean she's so mature, Like of the two she seems mature. She's absolutely, I mean she's more mature than you know, most forty year olds I know. But and I the thing she's she's so spectacular. I agree with you, she's so spectacular. Here's here's what as I as he was wearing me down. What I like about him on this franchise is he's

just a dude. He's not lift in weights made of rocks and bamboo that he fashioned down on the beach. Not he's got bad flip flops. He's got bad flip flops. You forgot to cut his hair. Like he's just a guy that somehow wandered into this franchise and he doesn't have hair a gel in and he's but so I think just anybody that's sort of a real person would stand out on this franchise. And for that reason, he stands out a little bit. No, I think that she

could sparkle up more. But I mean, at the same time, she seems like a very real person, but were captivating And who would you put her with? Adorable on his own right, But who would you put her with? Oh, that's a good question, Dean, Ivan Dean, I'm trying to think of who's there that's like yeah, Ivan um, Yeah, maybe yeah, maybe ivan Um. Okay. So then but overall, I've you know what, I've breathed into the rag. I love this couple. I'm here for it. I hope they

work out. I gave in. Does anybody have anything they want to say about this before we move on? No, I mean, I'm I'm ready for it. I'll be destroyed. I guess I know they Q Kendall. Yeah, yeah, let's predict. Do you think because he was really hurt last year or two years ago with Leo uh, Leo Leo. Yeah, I guess I like Kendall. I like Kendall a lot. But maybe Kendall comes on, maybe he stays. I don't know,

I don't know, it's paradise. I think he's going to get back with Kendall if that ship is sailed and they've already moved. Uh, you know, I don't know if it's it's gonna hold with Serena. Seems like they have the strongest relationship, but I think if anything, she's gonna leave him right because she could have other like they're the strongest. We'll see how mature Joe is. We'll see if because we see that he can fold in on himself.

Let's see if he self sabotages and fully turtles up, like We'll see how hard to reach he becomes, like Wilson and the volleyball like once once, if he just completely retreats into his own brain and just yeah, exactly, but tis the beach howling at the moon and screaming I can't be here pooh, And that's and that he's just like hiding on a day bed under a shirt

and that's that. And then it turns out like she ate Like that was like the f storyline, but like at the end she like eats pasta and feels better. Did you catch that fire? I knew she loved pasta, but I didn't know that. That's why she's a real quick clip of her like that a trick, I thought it, but I thought it did the emotional trick. I thought it was like soothing her heart, not the inside, but yeah, the pot, I mean if my brain wrote this, but like, yeah,

that it seemed like me. She was having a freak out. Everyody's like do you do you see that? She's freaking out? And then she came to the bar and she felt better. Watching her eat the pasta felt so relatable that I was like, I get that. I've been that lady with that pot. Tacos make it better, peanut butter makes it better. So then um Connor is talking to Wills. He's like, now I can just be the douche bag at the campfire with the guitars, Like, well, you are that guy.

You already cast you. You can't you can't say it ironically when you actually are that guy, and you can't stop casting yourself as that guy. So maybe why don't you just go show up and be the guy at the campfire for one, Maybe no guitar. Maybe thats requested the guitar. So you've played the guitar, We've had some guitar fun. Let's take let's see who you are without the guitar. But yeah, who are you just being a normal guy? LORI, I'm gonna be like that guy who

screamed leave Brittany a little? Are you serious? I am like Connor. I mean he's a little he's a little nerdy, but you know, just let him saying I'll find him jed two point. Oh oh I don't absolutely not. Okay, Katie, can't take it. Get in there, Katie. I think I said this before we start recording. But one thing I've noticed is that everyone else there they seem to like Connor. You see them hanging out with Connor. He walks up, They're not like, oh, They're like, oh hey, con how's

it going? And so like, clearly, I think he's a good dude, and I think he's probably kind of like a fun hang but you know, I just think he has bad luck in the love department. Um, but I think he's probably a good guy because everyone seems to really like being around him, So that's a good sign. Dr Banana, Do you do you have an updated from the caps report? I mean, look, you had the teeth

from before he came on. I did learn that he worked in finance before owned a grocery store, so he did well enough to buy a grocery store, which could potentially mean that he was able to afford caps previous before he started influencing. So I did look at a photo from his side. It does look like the front few teeth could possibly be capped. They seem a little whiter than the rest, so you're white. Somewhat inconclusive, but it is pointing towards that he could have got his

teeth capped. Thank you, Dr Banana. That's a very good cap report. Um. Should we take a quick break and come back with just Senia and Ivan but the bones. Let's get in the bone zone, guys, and we're back. So we're all wondering, is just Annya gonna leave Ivan for Chris? And it turns out yes she is. What in the fuck what? I was shocked. I think this was to me, Look, I'm not living in her skin, so I don't know what's right for her. If it

was me Ivan all the way for sure. She's like, um, look um, Ivan, you fit so many boxes, but there's not the spark that I'm looking for. I'm not sure that it's there. That hurts to hear. I gotta say with Chris, I feel the spark. I'm not sure if he fills the boxes. So what's important the spark or the boxes? Well, a spark isn't something that can be forced. And then he was like about to cry. I felt he was so hurt. Rob talked to me, talk to take us through your gentle feelings. I'm so bad for him.

Look on his face, and I feel like, you know, all the drug the blood cutter ran out and he just looked devastated because he thought the same thing we all thought. How could she choose that dude? Yeah that nobody knows. Yes, he's Ivan to me, is like to me, it's Ivan and Brendan are the top two kicks. I couldn't believe it. Yeah and yeah, I just I don't see where how I don't understand what she's saying. I don't see what she's seeing the fire is being lit. Doctor,

What is it? Doctor? What is it? She's made an error of judgment in my opinion. But also, you know what, Look, if it wasn't working out with like Ivan, then it just wasn't there. And what can you do if you're not horny for somebody, You're not horny for somewhere, not even if I'm paper they're the best. If you're like I don't want to go to the boom boom room, you shouldn't go to the boom boom room for loss, loss loss, Laurie, poor Ivan Ivan. I couldn't believe it

his face. It was hard, shattering, it was hard. I know, I felt, really I felt really bad for him. But I think, you know, I think he's gonna be just fine. Yes, having been with guys that are not even close to Ivan's level, that have been through the Bachelor franchise, Ivan will have ladies coming and going wherever Ivan goes for many years to come. Let me think about it, Think about think about James Taylor, you guys, you know what I mean? Like the Capital premises, did he was he there?

Did he January six? It? He did? He was he there? Well? Apparently he said that he was like tweeted three in the capital. But then then I get that followed up with by the FBI. He was like, well, I just tweeted it. I actually was going to plane to I don't know or something buy it, and I don't believe it. You know he was there. I didn't you know he was there at least if we're going to be there, own it, like don't you know what I mean, like, don't tweet that out and then like the chicken about

it needs to like change his name to seal. Still are the singer songwriter, not that the woman the bachelor? Right right, right, right right. I've seen far and I've seen January six. I'll see you in the capital. Okay. So then so then we have um uh, we have of uh, let me have what's the name that this is what's his name? Okay, wait, before we get to that, we have before we get to that, we have wills saying to uh saying to Connor, you look like Tommy Bahama fell in a vat of tang. It was a

pretty good one, had a good one. Yeah. It's a shame that my grandmother's couch had to die so that you could went close today or something. Yeah, Wellas was on fire. Wellas was on a roll. Um, Carl is like, I've got something for you, deandraw He's like, Miami. I brought it from Miami. I was gonna give it. I didn't plan on doing it so early, but okay, let me pull you aside. And then chasing is like lurking, and it's like, okay, all right, Jason, I need a

couple of minutes. I have a gift for you. It's a bracelet. I'm gonna give it to you if you stay here. It's worth it. I've got a palm tree because we met in Paradise, and it's a heart because you get my heart and the rose. I was gonna get my rose and change. Chasen's working around. He's like, dude, come on bro. Then they're like lurking around and then she says the brucelet. She's like, actually, it was really sweet that he give me a bracelet. Yeah, um okay.

So first of all, with the bracelet, he was like, I was I was gonna I brought this from Miami. You know, I was going to give it somebody like he just brought a bracelet for an occasion like this, and he's like, palm tree because that's where we met, Like you all are under palm trees. Everybody here met under a palm tree. Yes, I mean, like is hail Mary? It was so generic every and a heart because you know, and uh, and then a rose because you know so

obviously doesn't planned. And then the other thing is with the producers saying to Chase and like get in there, man, you got to get in there. You could see that. You could see him being produced, like don't he's a bad actor. Other people are more seamless with their production, like their geppetto like pulling the strings. He was like, come on, bro, He're like, no, man, I need her now, bra Yeah. And then he said, I mean, I'm pissed is my date? Yeah? She's like it's real sweet though,

He's like, no, it's cool, Yeah, it's cool. Look at it. Did you love that? It was just a Pandora bracelet, right, That's what I thought at the website and I was like, oh, yes, this is he just bought a generic Pandora bracelet. I don't know, but I was like the idea. If he kept saying it's from Miami, I'm like, no, one caress Pandora. It's clearly Pandora. So I'm like a kiosk at the mall.

It's probably twenty seven bucks. Ri. I mean, well, first of all, did you notice number one Carl didn't even ask her about her date and he just completely barraged her with you know, the you know, the bracelet from the Target and the Miami Strip mall and uh. And then Jason was like Mr Hovercraft, right, so they both I mean, neither one of those guys win for me and break it to you, is that I think that Chase I cannot tell Chason and Kenny apart from one another.

Kenny has the huge tattoo. I mean, I, if pressed, I could tell them apart. But they seem very similar to me. Kenny is the reasonable one. Kenny smarter than Chason. Tanna. Can you look up Pandora bracelet, palm tree, charm, heart, charm, rose, charm, see how much, see how much it costs. You might have to build it. You might have to be like I want the palm tree, charm. I feel like it might be like separate. He might have like picked I'll do those three on that bracelet. It looks like it

was like fake silver. Um, okay, great and a microphone so then yeah, yeah it was tough. So then Carl, Yeah, so the the bracelet. Uh so then um, they're they're at the bonfire playing what's the craziest place You've Ever had sex? And we found out a trampoline, we found out a cemetery from Trey, and then Abigails was where of course golf course course? Yeah, and Kenny, what's the fairest That is the strangest one that but it tracks, it doesn't and you know what it is on brand?

It is on brand. I believed it. His boy band was probably playing that carnival. It's definitely you're right, You're absolutely right. It's like you're right. It's like the back Alley Boys are playing the back Alley Boys are playing some like street Fair on the zipper with something on the zipper which is the boom boom room of the carnival, and his zipper went down, Tanna, how's it going? How's your bracelet building going? All right? So it looks like

the bracelets are technically Sterling silvers. These are the correct ones, and they can toss between like fifty to seventy dollars okay arms themselves. They look like they range from like thirty dollars to like seventy dollars. I haven't found the exact ones he so he might have thrown down between one fifty and two hundred dollars for that bracelet, right, which doesn't exactly bode well that he was just immediately willing to give it out as like a like a

hail Mary of like, yeah, probably something. It's not a cheap bracelet. That's an expense. It's like an expensive Pandora bracelet. It's a high end bracelet. Yeah, she was, she took it. I mean she wasn't like, yeah, she liked it. She's letting both of those guys just court. She hasn't had any storyline, right, Yeah, she's just letting it happen. So then, um, let me find out Demi, who is five, was it was an important birthday. I'm chene for Kenny let them

eat keg beetches and he's forty birthday. I want him. So they say happy birthday, she leaves the cake. Mari is like what the fuck? What the funk fingal fuck you? And then she's like, hemmy can I She's like, yeah, yeah, I don't even make it feel special, daddy, So that he swings and it's like this those the condoms like, yeah, they're the big ones. Yeah, And now how many condoms are there? How many doing aid? This is part two

of the portal that we were watching her lips. And then meanwhile at the bonfire, Mari goes, I'm wanna put in the fire. I want to put in the fire, and then she it was not an elegant moment through his cake in the fire. Here, Katie, I see you talk to us almost like a logistical question about this about like where she went with the cake, because she gives it to uh, Aaron, and Aaron is sitting right next to the fire and he's holding it, and she goes,

can I have that? And Aaron gives it to her, and then she like walks, Well I thought she was going to walk up to them and throw it in their face, which I was really hoping, but she didn't. And then she walks through like the whole resort and then comes back and puts in the fire and I was like, what was that? Yeah, where did she go? She's like a walk about with the cake. She went on like a walk about a cake walk. I I know that Mike Mitchell and the preview are doughboy who's

coming on. He was very upstick. He loves cake, and I have to say, I also love cake, and I love like a birthday cake. I love like I love like a dunk and I love like a box cake with like a duncan hind frosting, like I like just like a really cheap grocery store homemade cake. To see a cake that disrespected and and I guess they don't get cake that night during production like that, Like, I thought that was really rude to throw the cake in the fire, Katie, I see you coming and again take it.

I was just gonna say, everyone was really upset and like rightly so it looked like a great cake that they did a good job. LORII talked to me as okay, I I okay, I have lots of feelings about I love cake as well. I also noticed the walk, so I okay. So first of all, she walks with the cake away from people, which would already give me a lot of anxiety that somebody's gonna walk away. Where you going with that cake? Where you guys with that kid?

Walking to a producer and the producer was like, yeah, yeah. As I was watching this, I also remember this is this is like really elam entry Um English class foreshadowing and talking about uh, you know, having your cake and eating the two in the So this is actually a theme that we have seen in Bachelor in Paradise. And then I remembered that Dean brought a cake tod Low when he had that love triangle with Christina the Russian,

he also brought out a cake. And so part of these wondering is it even these people's birthdays or do they like to have this theme of a cake? And then I don't remember if a cake was actually thrown in the fireback, what did Jordan's throw Jordan through the Teddy Bear in the ocean? Yeah, Jordan through the Teddy Bear. But you know there's this there's this whole theme around the cake and and with you know, a few seasons ago. Anyway, it's a complete we recycled gig um. We need to

look up Kenny's birthday, Dr Banana Busy. The whole thing was very odd to me, especially the lap that that could the lap have been to get a different cake, to switch out prop cake for real cake is June two, so he was filming, so he wasn't quarantine, So it was his birthday like it said it was during quarantine. She wasn't saying it was that day. It's lose the loosest of it's your birthday, like three weeks ago. Happy birthday. Yeah, that's fair. I mean I too would have been crawling

into the fire too. I thought about the problem is the sand because I thought about, like would I go in that fire and eat that cake? And I thought maybe I would. If I had a fork, I could take a fork of that fire cake. Katie. Um, this is not about the Bachelor Paradise, But did you guys see how it was like trending on Twitter recently how Alan Alda met his wife. They were at a party and somebody dropped a rum cake on the floor and they both ate it. I that to I get it.

You were saying I could have stood a chance with old school Allen Alda, because I would have also eaten the cake. If you were there and you would eat the cake, I could be Art and Allda. I could be Art and all the rob Would you eat the cake from the fire with a fork if I could? Yeah? Yeah, if I could, I would have for sure. I wanted them to dish it, to fish it out. I wanted Riley to get a fork and go eat that kid, because he really wanted it, and I wanted to treat

himself like I loved it. Yes, would you eat the cakey? Well, I would just get Demi and Kenny and their vacuum cleaners and have them yes, the mouth Dyson. And then we have cakes in the fire and Riley is like, I want a piece of cake. We're kind of kid ake. Where's that damn cake? Um? And then Tas was upset. Taj is screaming. Demi howls with laughter. When she finds out about it. Mari posed Emi aside and she's like, what the funk you just called me a second option.

She's like, hate me, I don't care, dude, suck my asshole. Aside my asshole. It's incredible, Like, yeah, you said you didn't want him, so I went from like but but but and then so then she goes to Kenny. She's like, you want to talk. He's like so wait, why All of a sudden, he's like, look, you created this? How did I create this? Like and he's like, look, what

did you think? Was gonna happen. And then she he goes, I still like you, I didn't want this, but like you kind of knew damn well what was going to happen. She's like, no, no, but at this I found Kenny. And this was when I was like, I like when you're like Kenny. This is when I felt for Kenny. This is when I was twitching my allegiance because Brendan hasn't had enough get up and go for me. You know what I'm saying, like Brendan, there's been no he's

got no energy, is like like, wake up? You know Kenny was I felt saying like I was hurt by you. I was in for you. I didn't want this, but I listened you said this. So I moved on like and I thought, that's the guy for me. That's there he is. He's so reasonable. There he is. I'm looking at him. But is it is it reasonable? I agree that that he was definitely the more reasonable one of that duo? Is it really reasonable to hook up to immediately then hook up? I mean, I guess it's the show.

But she he was like, but but it was like he got captured by a like a moving sidewalk. It's like he was just walking along and all all of a sudden, if they're like if you're in the airport and they're like, do you want to go on the moving sidewalk, You're like, oh God, Like he didn't have to do anything, but just he put out no effort but just have to like go all right and like to have somebody put their mouth on his mouth, like

you know what I'm saying. Like he literally didn't pursue this app It literally fell in his lap and then fell on his lap in the boom boom room. Like he he didn't put in any effort, but was like he seems kind of amused by her, and she's kind of charming and cute and she wanted him to feel special and she brought him a cake and a pinatto Like why not? Yeah? Yeah, I mean I think he got He definitely saw it as an out, but it's not. It wasn't an out he requested, but he the women

have the roses. Yeah no, And you know he could have been like, yeah, whatever, I'll wait for you, you you know, but why why should he tanna? Okay? So then that means Smartie had that talk with him on his birthday. No, no, his birthday was in quarantine. Oh okay, yeah, you're right. You're right, so I got confused. Yeah no, now that there's I was like, that sucks that She's like, yeah, happy birthday anyway, Like I actually like, I am going

to try and date another person. You should say if the women have the roses, And she says, I'm going to date other people, and then there's like hot young blonde lands in your lap and it's like you're bag in hot and he's like okay, like and there's not that many available women and roses left? Why not? Isn't that the name of the game. Yeah, that's the show.

I also like that he was what you were saying earlier, where he's like, um, so like the situation has become, in fact, quite toxic, and I personally am very confused and that's not a very comfortable feeling for me. So I'm just going to end it. And I was like, and that's the forty year old. I found him actually very real. I'm not even joking when I was like, oh, he's very he's right, Like it was very reason she didn't do herself any favors when she murdered that cake.

You know it is true. She really did it. She really did it. So then, um, Aaron is laser focused on Tammy and Thomas, and Tammy walked right past Aaron to the day. Then there's a great episode. It was really great creat episode. And um, and then those three just trying to reason what has happened right by you? Oh my god, he's Aaron is like so easily played. He has his energy and his power over to Thomas. He's so obsessed with Thomas it's crazy. Thomas is like, whoa,

I said, amissive. Tammy is so dope, You're so dope, Like where I'm a villain, You're a villain. But I was like, if Aaron wasn't here, I would totally kiss you. And then she straddled him and started kissing him and like and then Aaron is like whoa. And then Trey, who loves getting sucked into drama, goes did human trash bag behavior. There's a lot of trash bag talk this year. There's a lot of human trash bag. I've never heard this phrase before. Uh, you know, I'm just saying. Trey

says it a lot. It's trash bag. Is it trash bag? Human trash bag behavior, the trash it's the bag that the trash bag, your trash bag. So then he got so then he's like, you're a villain. I'm a villain. And then and then he was And then Aaron was like, what the funk with the ship? We meet out of that same day bed, that's our day. Bad uh, And she goes, she kissed my mortal enemy in front of me. You have a mortal enemy in the bachelor world. I mean, what do we have to say about Tammy is batchet?

They're all cray gray. All right, Well, first of all, here's the difference, right, Tammy is also playing the game of bachelor in paradise. Like. The difference is that she exudes real sexiness when she does it. Number one, Number two, Aaron is the biggest baby, and he is south breathing. It's exactly right, a slack jaw, big baby. And the difference between Thomas and Aaron is that they're both they're

both alpha, right, but Thomas is actually nice too. And Thomas's is like the alpha male without sort of like the violent piss contest Bravado and you know, right, so he doesn't have to prove anything, and I love the conversation that Thomas had when he was like, okay, so let's just play this out. So I'm somehow she asked me to walk over there, and I'm supposed to avoid you. And meanwhile Aaron kissed Serena the other and so you know, again sex negative here. And then Tray with his comments

although I did I did see that. Tray said today that the way it was edited and spiced. Um, he didn't say that about about Tammy. Um actually said the common horror. He agreed apparently and Walker street walker walker right, she and Trey are are apparently very close. But anyway, I mean, Aaron is such a drama queen out of violent, verbally violent. Out of all the people on this program, he is the person I most I would I would end I would spend forty days on Survivor Island with

Connor then hanging out with Aaron. Yeah, I agree with that. I didn't understand why after that happened, which look from his point of view, felt shocking. Why doesn't he go to her and they're like, what's going on with us? Why does he go to the dude who you're not friends with him? Anyway? Don't he go himbsessed with him. He's in a relationship with Thomas. He is curiously us Tanna, he really talk with Thomas. Yes, preach doctor, talk to

us doctor. Okay. So then rounding out the night, Demi and Kenny go to the boom boom room and um and uh he's taking a break from Mari and uh and oh yes Thomas and Aaron. Aaron says, I deserve some respectful communication. You know what people do on those day beds. You knew where I was. And then Riley was upset about the cake. So that so that was the end of the episode. I gotta say overall. Scala went to ten, what do you give this episode? Lorie? Oh,

I'm giving it. I'm giving it an a range. I mean one to ten, one to ten, one to ten, Oh, I give it a give it a nine, I give it a nine to Tanna. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go nine and a half. I was, you know, my mom just started listening to shout out to Vivian Benedict. She was listening from Columbia, Missouri. Are you serious and well become Vivian? Yeah. She watches the shows that I don't do. Listen to the shows I don't do. Also, she's in Sana that you and the show Yeah, yea

Mama Benaden Yeah. And she was like, and then who are the other women? There's Katie the producer, and then there's a doctor. Yes, Dr Vina. Is your mom cool that I swear all the time? Oh my mom is way cool? She watches MSNBC all day and she yeah, she's she's j Jet was her hero. JJ was all in on you guys? Are you kiding? Okay? Wait what do you give this? On a scale on one to ten? Katie a nine as well? I mean it was almost perfect. Was great. I'm trying to think of, like what episode

for you are you gonna pick before we do? What is you are? If you have to pick one your favorite episode that they like, do you have one that stands out? I feel like the Carly Evan like that season, the Carly Evans storyline of like the realizing that like the tides were turning and like, wait, he's going to get the girl. I mean that was a great season. Yeah,

that was. It wasn't actually either. At the same time, was that she wrote those long letters to Jared that handwritten singles, says I also loved the Caitlin nick Ville Ireland church hump, like the nick Ville showing up. That was a great season. And I mean there's there's plenty of older Bachelor and Bachelotte season. I know, I know. The moong Beans was a classic. It was a classic.

Um all right, Before we get to tweeter the week, I gotta say I've been asking, I've been asking for um uh, for you guys to to review us, and you've been doing it. So we're not quite at one point six yet. We're trying to get there because we're trying to get to two thousand by the end of the year. But your reviews are coming in hot. Here's one that we got today, five stars. We've got Annie

Horny for the Bachelor. Do you love listening to very funny people talk about very horny people make bad decisions. Have you recently experienced a devastating loss and are stuck on grief Island? Do you like to laugh so hard that you peel a little. Honestly, I feel like a bad fan that it took me years to come here and rate this show. I love this podcast. I love the guest, I love the regulars. I sing along with the theme song, maybe the best theme song ever. Shout

out Mark Rivers. This is my go to bachelor franchise pod. I love Arden and I pre ordered her book Keep doing the Lord's Work. That's how you do a review. Thank you so much, so we'd love to hear more if you guys want to review us. All right, here's a great email from Heather Jensen. Hello, will you accept this? Rose fam? I cannot cannot be the only person who noticed this brilliant editing for when all the girls chemicals got jangled Serena, when Thomas walked in, all the girls

had a little like twinkle in their eyes. Camera pants to many many women, and James beat me at Thomas. I wish I had Network TV so I could tweet at you, but I'm watching on delay. I sincerely hope this will make you laugh. Oh my god, there's a screen grab. Holy cow, I'm gonna I'm gonna put it in our text Chaine, hold on the second, I'm gonna send it to you guys. Meanwhile, I was giggling uncontrollably

at Lanta's intro. It was spectacular. He was a fantastic host, and I will not survive if he hasn't made a permanent host. Can't wait to see more of Lance this week. I love you guys so so much. Thank you for doing the lord's work. Big shout out to the production crew. Stay safe. PS, this is a dumb question. If I've reviewed the pod, do you get more stars if I re review? I've been assuming I only get counted once, but I'll review the review you daily if it counts,

can they review again? Try it? Try to review again. I don't know to try. I think you might be only do it once under your user name, but who knows. Give it a go. I love that idea, so thank you so much. You can email us at Rose podcast at gmail dot com. And then of course you guys are on fire with tweet of the week. I have to say it's such a joy to get to know

all of you through the tweeting. Oh and Anna, you were saying, because we can't go to moontower, we were looking into possibly doing a thing where we can all be together in person and do like a live show, and it's a live stream, so it's almost like a show. Um, but we're together, but everybody's safe and not getting the delta variant is that right to it. Okay, So that way that way because I know people were excited about moontower, But that way we can still have a show for

you guys, but not get anybody sick. Um. All right, Robbie b I'm ready. Would you do the honor of the tweet of the weeks? You can whittle it down as you like and then say who who tweeted it? And with the tweets are you know from Ryan Paulson at Our Paulson Photo Connor by I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure that I'm the worst kisser in bat nation. Demi and Kenny hold our ubulus.

That's pretty good. I really I like that. I don't think we've ever been tweeted the word You've a new one, uh, Lauren Gene Johnson at words by l J j Okay. But now I want to see how weird a Demi and Connor kiss would be. I mean, I gotta say we've all been We've definitely been secreting that. Yes, Um. Jonathan Wolf at mo Jonathan says worst case scenario a small show, no go bro blow, smoke show, no go

Bro blow. I like the smoke show, no blow Um, let's see Justin Paul Spade at Justin Spade, I guarantee you that the spawn of Kenny and Denny will have the exact same musical talent as kid Rocks. Uh seth That at basepone one kimono convict sounds more like Carl's upcoming motivational children's book where a young at risk martial artist gets knocked out and murdered by his own shadow. I mean, that's a really good um let's see, uh

Justin Paul Spade and Spade. Don't ask me how, but I know for a fact that the bracelet Carl gave out is the exact same as the one pit Pole gives out at his Gold level members for his only fans. That's good too, Okay. A couple more uh seth vad at Baseball one. Also, Happy birthday to you, Connor. Wait, not yet, Happy birthday to you. Let me give a you Happy birthday, Dear Kenny, what care we in? Happy birthday to you? Okay, God, Happy birthday ship. I like

that one a lot too, too. Yeah, okay, one last one from Justin Spade. Look, I'm all in for the tweet of the weak thing, but Chason saying Carl is a leprechn handing out lucky charms is the tweet of the week. Oh my god, all right, I like. I like. There's a lot that I like. I mean, I like the Smoke Show, I like the Kid Rock, I like the children's book, like the pit Bull, I like the Pitbull gold Level poll only fans. I might say kimono convict and one other one of your choosing rob um

let's do Pitbull uh Pitbull only fans. So you're saying it's between seth vat at baseball one kimono convict sounds more like Carl's upcoming motivational children's book where a young at risk martial artist gets knocked out and murders by murdered by his own shadowy and Justin Spade at Justine Spade. Don't ask me how, but I know for a fact that the bracelet Carl gave out is the exact same as the one pit Bull gives out to his only

to his gold level members for his only fans. Golly, so Pitbull giving out to his gold level members for his only fans, or Carl's upcoming motivational I'm gonna go kimono convict Rob. I'm going to go, uh put Bulls only fans, Katie kimono convict LORI pit Bulls alright, Dr alright, the cap caps specialist, what's it gonna be? Real life doctor, real life doctor. Our physician is a kimono convict or Pitbull gold level only fan. I like Pitbull gold level only face. All Right, I hear it just In Paul

Spade to Justin Spade. Don't ask me how, but I know for a fact that the bracelet crawl gave out is the exact same as the ones pit Poll gives out to his gold level members for his only fans. Okay, I want googled because I was like, is this real? And three or two I think that's Justin Spade's third tweet of the week when he's a new He's new

to us this year. So that's also just saying, if you're brand new to the podcast and you feel a little shy, dissipate, step to tonight be the night any Monday or two, any night that there's an episode and a special stout out. Shout out to seth Vat, who always gives good that he is our hilarious, He's our o G. I mean he is the he will always he and Cheyenne constant or to like O G. There's a lot. There's business raccoon. We've got to like this Madison.

Business is always on yashas on fire. We've got we've got who is that baby that we met in Westport? Oh that's uh something theorem Sorry, it's like dragon dragon and um jen oh jeez, now the handles I can't remember. We have a lot. We have a lot though that we've got really good best. So if you're new and you feel shy, just jump on in because Spad he's coming in hot. He's a new he's new. He's got

three this three this year. So if you want to play, you just need to tweet to us by midnight at UM on any Pacific time any time the show airs at Arta Marine m y r I n at anna hosnie h s s n i e h hashtag w y a t r Anna calls it down to about eighty or ninety tweets. I then narrow it down to about twelve, and then I pass it off to somebody to narrow it down to about eight and then off we go. That's how it works, um Robbie b I

love you. What do you have to promote? Um, well, I'm gonna be on the final season of Lucifer, which is dropping sometime in September, like third week of September. I mean it weird that you're on the God Show and the Devil Show. Yeah, it's kind of weird. Yeah, for sure. And there's a character of God in Lucifer. But that's not me than Dennis Hayworth. But I'm got on Supernatural, but you know, in my mind, you're also got on Lucifer. Thank you, thank you. Um, but yeah,

we'd crossover. What would you need to promote? And and what's about your podcast that to my podcast? Yes, it's called Kings of con the podcast with me and Richard Spate Jr. And put that out about once week. You can find that wherever you listen to podcasts. I love it, Laurie. We just want to promote your knowledge of the Bachelor. Well, and I have a I have a toenail clipper line

coming up. Plus. Yes, that's great, that's great. I want to say that Anna and I have we just started putting out our episodes for Patreon for uh F Boy Island and it's really fun. And and if you're like, if it's cost prohibitive because the show is on HBO, Max, email us at Rose Podcast at gmail dot com. We don't want anybody left out because of lack of funds. And uh, it's really fun. We've been really enjoying it. And my paperback, Little Miss Little Compton, comes out in September.

You can order it anywhere. If you were like, I'd love to read that book, but I hate hardcovers. Well, this is for you. Uh dr Banana, what would you like to promote? Yeah, I mean same. Find us on our Patreon. We're covering uh F Boy Island. I believe the first episode is already dropped. The second one will drop this week. And yeah, I'm at Anna Hoste on Twitter. I love the tweets of the weeks. They always make my night. Okay, Eddie Levine, I am at Katie Underscore

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episode and uh, we're having on the dough Boys. I mean know that Mike Mitchell is very upset by that cake in the fire. He hated watching even in the preview because he loves cakes, and he said it really hurt him to see like a woman in a bikini throw a cake and a fire that he felt just so upset in so many levels. Um, you guys, my name is Arta Marine. Until next time, stay safe, wear

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