Quest for Understanding

How *does* one cross the threshold from a "should" conversation around structure into a "wanting" conversation around structure? Bay and Laura get real nerdy about the ever unfolding relationship between structure and magic. Why is it that humans are always on a Quest for Understanding? When is understanding enhancing our experience of magic and joy, and when is it limiting or control based? What's the relationship between Ontology and Phenomenology? It may make no sense but Laura's gonna try to make sure you get it. It is the American Way!