Third Position

politics are dominated by the two party system. It's always been that way. Before it was Republicans and Democrats and red states and blue states, we had Democrats and Whigs, and before that we had Federalists and Democratic Republicans. It's always been nearly impossible for a third party or independent candidate to break through on the national stage, but they've

always tried. There are long standing third parties ones you've probably seen, or a ballot Green Party, the Libertarian Party, and there are third parties that have come and gone, like Ross Perrot's Reform Party. In every election cycle. There are tiny little groups you've never heard of putting up

a candidate. They know they can't win, but they have a message they want to get out there, and technically almost anyone can run for president with or without a party, as long as you are a natural born citizen over thirty five. All you have to do is raise some money and fill out some paperwork. Records from the Federal Election Commission show that in twenty twelve, two hundred and eighty people build out that paperwork announcing their intention to

run for president of the United States. One of those candidates was an aspiring filmmaker with no political experience and a lot of thoughts about who really did know. Nine to eleven, I'm Molly Conger. This it's weirdly advised. I landed on this story in a roundabout kind of way. I guess they always do. If you listen to the last two episodes, I do have a confession to make. I left something out of that story. It just didn't fit neatly into the episodes, and it would have been

a confusing digression. Those episodes were about Devon Arthur's, the co founder of Adam Woffin who murdered two members of the group in twenty seventeen, and in those episodes, I told you that the earliest mentions of Adam Waffen online were in posts on a forum called Iron March, and that's still true as far as I know. I didn't lie to you, but you might have assumed, based on what I said in those episodes that the group's co founders, Devin Arthurs and Brandon Russell must have met on Iron

March two. That's a reasonable assumption. And like I said, I left some things out of the story because that's not where the pair first met. They met on a platform called tiny chat. Launched in two thousand and nine, tiny chat was a video chat room. As many as twelve users at a time could appear on video, and more users could watch and participate in a text chat

down below. When they were interviewed by police on the night of the murders in twenty seventeen, both Brandon Russell and Devon Arthur's specifically mentioned that they'd originally met on tiny Chat. I dug up old four chan posts from twenty fourteen that show some screenshots of one particular tiny chat room. In what looks like a college dorm room, a user calling himself Odin is staring into his webcam.

It's Brandon Russell, a year before he announced the formation of his neo Nazi terrorist organization, and years before he went to federal prison. The first and then second times, he was nineteen years old sitting in his dorm room in Florida in an online chat room called Third Position. I don't have any particular interest in writing a third part of that story. This isn't actually a continuation of those two episodes. This isn't about Brandon Russell or Adam Waffen.

If you didn't listen to those episodes and you don't know what I'm talking about, don't worry about it. But I was stuck on this idea of that third position tiny chat. How did a fourteen year old Devon Arthur send up in a video chat room run by grown men talking about the political ideology of third positionism. I'm not going to answer those questions today. We're not really

going to talk about that chat room at all. I'm just telling you how I ended up reading an unproduced screenplay about a brave and handsome patriot who uncovers the truth about nine to eleven. I promise these things are related. This story is about the man who wrote that awful screenplay, a man named Merlin Miller. In twenty twelve, he was put forward as a presidential candidate by the American Third Position Party, the same group that was video chatting with

teenage Nazis in twenty fourteen. One surviving promotional video for the chat room actually repurposes Miller's twenty twelve campaign announcement video to advertise an upcoming chat featuring the party's chairman, an attorney named William Johnson. There are a lot of characters here who we will definitely see again in future episodes, so I won't dwell on them for too long now.

But let's get a little backstory. The American Third Position Party was an actual political party registered with the Federal Election Commission, and it still exists today kind of. The group rebranded as the American Freedom Party and they still have a website, although they terminated their federal electoral committee in twenty twenty. As we so often see with extremist groups, there is this constant cycle of collapsing, rebranding, and splintering,

and that's how American Third Position was born. In two thousand and nine, a Nazi skinhead group in California found themselves in turmoil. Some Nazi skinheads, calling themselves Freedom fourteen, tried to organize a political party called the Golden State Party, but it all fell apart when the Orange County Register published a story revealing that the party spokesman had been using a pseudonym I hide the fact that he had

some violent felony convictions in his past. It's not totally clear to me why the Nazis skinheads found that to be a problem. That's kind of their whole thing, but I guess it just won't do for your political party spokesman.

Either way, the Golden State Party was dead in the water, and some of those skinheads weren't ready to give up on the idea of having a political party, so they got together to choose a new leader and a new name, and they settled on the American Third Position Party, and the group would be chaired by a corporate lawyer in Los Angeles named William Johnson. Johnson has been on my

list of Weird Little Guys from the beginning. I never actually managed to pull from my list of episode ideas because I always get distracted by some stray thought from the prior week's research. But I have to imagine we'll get to him eventually. He's a lawyer and he's in the movement, but he's not really a movement lawyer. That's not the focus of his practice. He pitches in occasionally. Sure, his name shows up as the attorney of record on

a trademark application for the Council of Conservative Citizens. And there's a Nazi in Pennsylvania who seems fond of seeing Johnson when he emails county employees to make public records requests, as though he thinks Johnson is his personal attorney. But he's not licensed to practice in Pennsylvania. But usually when I'm talking about a guy who is both an attorney and a career white nationalist, he's not really keeping those parts of his life separate. So I think he's a

little unique in that respect. As an attorney, Johnson primarily represents Japanese companies doing business in the United States. He has a terribly common name, making it a little hard to look him up on pacer. But it doesn't look like he's taken very many cases to court, at least not in federal court. But in corporate law, there's a

lot of law to be practiced outside the courtroom. He does have an active case in the Court of International Trade right now, but I couldn't possibly pretend to be interested in the court's opinion about whether his client's imported goods were properly classified under the tariff schedule. Apparently, the difference between raw dried seaweed and seaweed that has been prepared for human consumption by drying it is not just in the eye of the beholder, it is a six

percent jump in teriff right. Just how dry this seaweed really is isn't interesting, But his choice of co counsel is The seaweed importer is almost certainly Johnson's client. This is the kind of client he represents. But the documents are actually being filed with the court by a movement lawyer who recently represented members of Patriot Front. Small World, I guess. But we'll get to Glenn Allen's role in this story next week, not the seaweed part, the Nazi part.

The website for Johnson's La based law firm is almost entirely in Japanese, a language he appears to conduct most of his business in proficiently. He majored in Japanese at Brigham Young University and spent some time in Japan as a Mormon missionary. I don't speak any Japanese, so I can't really be the judge of such things, But in some of the videos on his website, at least to my ear, he has the sort of stilted cadence of

a speaker who isn't terribly confident in his skills. I am, however, much better equipped to pass judgment on his other career that of a professional racist. He's been splitting his time between the two for more than forty years. He was admitted to the bar in nineteen eighty one, and soon after that he starts writing under the pseudonym James O. Pace. In nineteen eighty five, as James O. Pace, he published a book called Amendment to the Constitution, Averting the Decline

and Fall of America. The book lays out his argument for an amendment to the Constitution, this so called Pace Amendment, and it would repeal the fourteenth and fifteenth Amendments to the US Constitution. He also proposes restricting U S citizenship

to whites of European descent only. The second section of the proposed amendment reads, quote, no person shall be a citizen of the United States unless he is a non Hispanic white of the European race in whom there is no ascertainable trace of Negro blood, nor more than one eighth Mongolian, Asian, Asia Minor, Middle Eastern, Semitic, Near Eastern a maa An, Indian, Malay, or other non European or non white blood. You might be asking why did it take an entire book to explain how that would work?

to be two hundred pages long. And after its publication he spent the latter half of the nineteen eighties running a group called the League of Pace Amendment Advocates, and he claimed that he was the group's spokesman, and he pretended that he'd met the author and just supported his ideas. When The La Times connected the dots that William Daniel Johnson was definitely James O. Pace, he denied it, telling the paper that James Pace was a pseudonym, but it wasn't.

His Pace is a lawyer just like him, but Pace works outside of the country. He wouldn't say what Pace's real name was or what country he was allegedly living in. It's giving. My girlfriend goes to a different school, you wouldn't know her. He gave up on the League of Pay Advocates after someone bombed the group's office in nineteen eighty nine. It was only a small bomb and it went off in the middle of the night when no one was there. No one was injured, and as far

as I can tell, it was never solved. Like I said, William Daniel Johnson is absolutely a weird little guy in his own right, so I won't linger here. But he was a well established figure in organized racism by the time those skinheads approached him to chair their rebranded political party in two thousand and nine. In fact, he was fresh off a very public loss in a two thousand and eight campaign for judge in the Superior Court of

Los Angeles. The embarrassing defeat only raised his profile in the white nationalist community, though, and it came at a time of renewed interest in the movement in the idea of entering mainstream politics. His newly formed political party was led by respectable professionals, obscuring its origin in skinhead street fighting gangs. Johnson was an attorney with a jd from

Columbia University. Tom Sunik, a Croatian born political scientist, had taught at several universities, and Kevin MacDonald was a professor of psychology at California State University. This was the era of the sutent Thai racist the Dapper Nazi. Richard Spencer had just started his alternative right dot com website. Matthew Heinbach was still a college student at Tawson University and he was leading a chapter of the White Supreme Group

Youth for Western Civilization. Both men would go on to figure prominently in the twenty seventeen era alt right and the street violence that accompanied it, and in the early twenty tens, both of these men were frequent collaborators with members of the American Third Position Party. The party may have been a rebranding of a California skinhead group, but it couldn't have existed without the neo Nazi networking that

was happening at Ron Paul campaign events. The Ron Paul Revolution never really took off, but his campaign provided fertile recruiting grounds for white nationalists in two thousand and seven, William Johnson was hosting pricey fundraising dinners for Paul's campaign. When he ran for judge in two thousand and eight. His campaign manager was also the Paul campaign's California statewide coordinator.

Virginia Abernethy, a Vanderbilt professor and member of the Council of Conservative City who would go on to be a member of the party's board, was one of several high profile racists whose donations to the Paul campaign made headlines when he declined to refuse money from white nationalists. And it was through Ron Paul campaign events that Merlin Miller first met members of the American Third Position Party. Don't just take my word for it, though.

for office is hard. Convincing someone else to run for office is also very hard. It takes a lot of time, effort, and money. You have to put yourself out there. It's exhausting and potentially humiliating. And the kind of guy who's enthusiastic about running for office as an open white nationalist, well that kind of guy tends to be an absolute fucking weirdo who alienates everyone with an earshot. When party member Ryan Murdaw announced his candidacy for state representative in

New Hampshire, people were disgusted. One letter to the editor from a Grafton resident called his candidacy a festering boil. Party member Harry Bertram made several spectacularly unsuccessful runs for office in West Virginia, including the twenty eleven special election

for governor. I didn't do a whole lot of digging on Harry Bertram, but I did read the entirety of his twenty three year posting history on Stormfront, and I have to say he doesn't strike me as a strong communicator, and he appears to be at least a little bit involved with the clan. But more importantly, his message just didn't resonate with West Virginians. Was coarse and overt that fearmongered about white replacement, but he didn't have much else

to offer outside of those racist conspiracy theories. One local news article from the time quoted a West Virginia voter who said illegal immigration just wasn't a top issue for her. In twenty ten, West Virginia was ninety four percent white. The state is to this day dead last when it comes to the percentage of residents who are foreign born and the percentage of residents who speak a language other than English at home, about one and a half percent

and two and a half percent, respectively. So even if those voters don't like immigrants in theory, there's a decent chance they've never even seen one. It was a single issue candidate, and that just wasn't the issue people cared most about. The party needed someone who looked normal, someone who could put on a suit and put together a s sentence and pretend to address a real issue, preferably someone who wasn't publicly associated with another active hate group,

someone with a clean record and a good education. I mean, it doesn't matter who they pick, they're not going to win. But it isn't necessarily about winning, is it.

Merlin Miller was the man for the job. By his own telling, Merlin Miller wasn't very interested in politics for most of his life. He grew up in a working class family in Iowa and became the first member of his family to graduate from college. He graduated from West Point in the class of nineteen seventy four, and he

had some pretty famous classmates. Astronaut Michael Clifford, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Martin Dempsey, former Deputy Assistant Secretary General of NATO, Matthew Cleimo, former NSA director Keith Alexander, and four star General Walter Sharp, and of course, former CIA Director David Petreus. I had to look up the graduating class of nineteen seventy four to get most of those names, but not that one. In almost every

speech and interview, I could find spanning a decade. Merlin Miller mentions that he went to school with David Petraeus. I guess he thinks it makes him sound important. He knows a very important guy whose name has been on the news a lot, so that must mean something. And particularly back during the twenty twelve Camps in Pain cycle, David Petraeus was on the news quite a bit, so saying the name gives him some proximity to power, some

proximity to legitimacy. Sometimes it feels like he wants the listener to assume that the pair have maintained some kind of relationship since graduation. But I don't think he ever outright says that. In one interview, he says that in two thousand and nine he sent Betrayus Quote, a treatise that connected military, political, and media intrigues challenging many of

the orthodoxies. Based on the context of the conversation and the fact that the interview was published on an anti Semitic conspiracy theory website, you can probably guess that he sent the general some weird essay about Jewish control of the media based on his use of the word treatise, though I'm pretty sure What he sent David Petraeus was a copy of his unpublished one hundred page manuscript called

The American Dream. It's a document that he only ever refers to as a treatise, and that's the only place I can find him ever using that word. So I think that's what it was and has got everything you might expect. Communism is a Jewish conspiracy. Some parts of the Holocaust probably kind of happened, but maybe it wasn't actually that serious. The Federal Reserve and the IRS, or illegal scams perpetrated on the American people nine to eleven was a false flag orchestrated by Masad and the CIA.

Illegal immigration is replacing white Americans, and the Jews are behind that too. We have to crush the New World Order, etc. You know, honestly, I wonder if he was a big Info warse listener in the mid auts because this sounds like vintage Alex Jones. I guess there was this thriving blogosphere back then with all the same talking points, so he could have gotten it anywhere. Let's not give Alex

Jones too much credit. I don't think David Betraeus ever wrote back after graduating from West Point nineteen seventy four, Miller served six years in the Army. He spent a few years working for Michel Entire Company, but in nineteen eighty three he had the opportunity to pursue his true passion,

his childhood dream, filmmaking. He was accepted into an MFA program at the University of Southern California, and he was one of just twenty students admitted into that year's Peter Stark Producing Program, a specialized graduate degree program within the film school that focused on film and television production. And here too he had some very famous classmates. Stacey Cher produced movies like Pulp Fiction, Django Unchained, and Aaron Brockovich.

Neil Morritz would go on to produce movies like I Know What You Did Last Summer, Cruel Intentions, and all of the Fast and Furious movies. Liz Glotzer is the president of a production company that makes television dramas for CBS. The program seems to produce a lot of producers and Merlin Miller really did try to break into the industry.

While he was at USC, he interned at Paramount and after graduation he had some minor production roles in a couple of schlocky, low budget movies in the late eighties and early nineties, but he had a family to feed. He and his wife had four daughters by that time, and living in la is expensive. You can't support a family of six working as a line producer on b movies. The family relocated to Springfield, Missouri, and he took a job at Ozark's Technical Community College. But he didn't give

up on his dreams. He started his own film production company, Ozark Pictures, and he made a movie. He made a real movie with a budget of close to a million dollars, all secured through private investors. His first film, A Place to Grow, premiered at a theater in Springfield, Missouri, in March of nineteen ninety five. One of the film's big stars, Chris Christofferson's daughter Tracy, attended the premiere in Springfield, but her co stars, Wilford Brimley and a country singer called

Boxcar Willie, didn't make it. The movie didn't get wide release. It wasn't something people were seeing theaters all over the country, and almost all of the press about the film was in Missouri newspapers who were writing about it as a local interest story because the film cast locals in most of the smaller roles, and in some of those articles all the way back in nineteen ninety five, you can

start to see the hints of what's coming. He told a reporter that he left Hollywood for the Ozarks to make movies that quote promote the ideals of Americana end quote traditional family values for Midwestern audiences. You know. Twenty years later, in an interview with a Holocaust denier, he said pretty much the same thing. You just can't make movies with good family values out there in Hollywood.

the Sandy Hook and Parkland school shootings, the Pulse nightclub shooting, and the Unite the rightvehicular attack in Charlottesville. We're all hoaxes. None of those things happened. After Fetzer lost a lawsuit brought by the father of a little boy killed in Sandy Hook, Harry had to stop selling a book called Nobody Died at Sandy Hook. So in this conversation, that's who he's talking to. So Miller can be a little more explicit about what he means.

high profile motion pictures. And due to this very day, with one other exception, I'm the only other graduate of mar class that still considers himself a part of the industry. And that's pretty typical of all of the year groups at USA. And in the industry, so it's a very controlled environment.

during dinner, but I couldn't finish it. I mean, it was just not good. It had some actual star surprisingly, but there's just no getting over some hurdles. Mark Valley, who hadn't yet landed roles on shows like Er, Fringe, Boston Legal and CSI, was mostly just a soap opera actor in the nineties, and ar Lee Ermi was in

damn near a hundred movies. You might not know his name, but he's the Marine Corps drill sergeant in every movie you've ever seen with an older man playing a Marine Corps drill sergeant or some adjacent type of loud, vaguely military coded authority figure. That's Arlee ERMI every time I think he just said yes to everything, but even getting

real actors for his movie could not salvage it. My poor husband, who is eternally supportive of my work and has this seemingly infinite well of patients for my obsessions, looked so painfully bored that I just I could. I

couldn't do it to him. I mean, he once sat through a made for TV movie starring a lesser Baldwin brother, based on the autobiography of a neo Nazi, and he didn't even complain when I talked through the entire movie, saying things like, well, that's not what really happened, and that character is actually an amalgamation of three different real guys. So I take it very seriously if he's visibly pained by the terrors I've brought into our home. So I

didn't watch Jericho, but I guess you could. And just like a place to grow, Jericho failed to get picked up for wider distribution, but in his efforts to market the film, Merlin Miller met a man who would change his life. It wasn't long after nine to eleven when Merlin Miller had a meeting with a film buyer for Carmike Cinemas. The buyer passed on the film, but they got to talking about other things. None of the source material I could find explains exactly how they got on

the subject. I don't know which one of them brought up the Jewish question first, but someone did you see as a much younger man before, he was the one deciding which independent films you could see at a Carmike theater. Bob Scarborough served three years in the Navy, and in nineteen sixty seven, according to his obituary, Scarborough was a cryptologist serving aboard the USS Liberty. On June eighth, nineteen sixty seven, little over halfway through the Sixth Day War,

the Liberty was patrolling international waters off the coast of Egypt. Officially, the United States was not involved in the Sixth Day War. That was a war between Israel and everybody else, but the American military is everywhere. So the USS Liberty was about thirty miles off the coast of the Sinai Peninsula when two unidentified jets appeared overhead. The jets made half a dozen strafing runs over the Liberty firing on the vessel, and then torpedo boats arrived and they too fired on

the Liberty. Thirty four members aboard the US Naval vessel were killed and one hundred and seventy one more were injured. I'll get it out of the way right now. There's no right way to talk about this. That part just now. Those are the bare facts. Those are the facts that everyone agrees on. But the incident in question is the subject of decades of conspiracy theories, mostly ones repeated by virulent anti Semites. You'll never catch me out here saying

the Holocaust deniers are making some valid points. That's not what I'm saying. But while the official investigations conducted by the US and Israeli governments are on the hard facts right that the jets fired, the boats fired, the people died, but the investigations don't agree on the nature of this situation.

For the bare facts here, I'm using sources like the US Navy's Naval History and Heritage Command, and documents available from the State Department's Office of the Historian, and declassified documents available on the NSA's website. Not to say that the US government is the arbiter of truth here, and that those documents necessarily present the version of the truth

that is true. I'm just trying to convey that I did go out of my way to make sure I wasn't accidentally repeating something from a conspiracy theory website, because it can be very hard to tell. The official explanation from the Israeli government is that it was a mistake. The pilots claimed that the ship wasn't flying a flag

and they thought the Liberty was an Egyptian vessel. Once they realized the victims were screaming in English, they apologized to the United States and paid a few million dollars in compensation to the victims' families and a few million more for the damage cost to the ship. But there are a lot of unanswered questions here, and the problem is that the only people you ever hear asking those questions are absolutely bug fuck nuts, because this is a

favorite topic of obsession for Boomer anti Semites. It's a real shame too, because there are some very uncomfortable holes in the official narrative. But the way conspiracy theorists have flooded the conversation on this makes it very hard to trust most sources it is absolutely possible and I think necessary, to ask questions about unjustified Israeli military aggression without being antisemitic. Unfortunately, the average guy posting online about the US Liberty is

not interested in that distinction. So I'm not going to talk any more about what may or may not have really happened aboard the USS Liberty in June of nineteen sixty seven, because for the purposes of this story, that doesn't actually matter. The only thing that matters here is that the event is a madness rune for a particular flavor of conspiracy. Guy and Merlin Miller has said many times that this conversation with Bob Scarborough about the USS

Liberty was his political awakening. It makes sense in a way that he was infected by this single conversation. He'd washed out of Hollywood and his independent film career was one disappointment after another. He couldn't get funding, he felt like the MPAA was giving his movies unfair ratings, he couldn't get theatrical release, and his classmates whose careers were flourishing, Come to think of it, they all had pretty Jewish

sounding last names, didn't they. It wasn't about talent or merit, or that he wasn't working hard enough, or that he wasn't making movies people wanted to watch. Oh, it couldn't be that. This is about Jewish control of the media.

That's what's going on here and now, with nine to eleven fresh in his mind and conspiracy theories sprouting like mushrooms after a rain, here's this life altering revelation from a man who says he lived through a false flag attack carried out by the people that Merlin Miller is already half convinced have it out for him. So he started doing his own research and he got obsessed. Scarborough soon introduced Merlin Miller to a friend of his, a

man named Richard S. Thompson. I couldn't actually find a copy of a book Miller wrote in twenty sixteen, and I think there may be more detail in there. But my guess is Scarborough thought to connect him to Thompson, not just so Miller would have someone else to talk to about the USS Liberty, but because of their shared

interest in film. Richard Thompson had been heavily involved in the production of a two thousand and two BBC documentary about the USS Liberty, so maybe as Scarborough is telling Miller, you know, I'm not interested in purchasing the rights to Jericho, but I have this other opportunity for you. Talk to my buddy Dick Thompson. He likes financing films. Thompson and Miller did go on to become very close friends, and he was, according to Miller, very interested in making a

movie together. According to that rambling one hundred page treatise he wrote in two thousand and nine, that one I'm pretty sure he mailed to General David BETREEUS, Thompson agreed to finance a movie that would be produced and directed by Merlin Miller. Again, according to Miller, Thompson announced his intention to fund the film on Friday, June eighth, two

thousand and seven. That was the fortieth anniversary of the incident on the USS Liberty and a few dozen surviving crewman we're meeting up in Washington, d C. Now, as far as I can tell, Richard S. Thompson was never aboard the US S Liberty. He wasn't a crewman at the time of the incident. He was definitely in the Navy. I know that the announcement in the newspaper when he married his wife in nineteen fifty four mentions it, and so does his obituary. And his obituary does mention the Liberty,

but not in the context of his naval career. No, it says he was a longtime supporter of the survivors of the USS Liberty, so it's just something he had had an interest in. A lot of the writing online, written by people I think may not be fully grounded in reality, assert without question that he worked in naval intelligence. At least one rather fantastical book repeatedly refers to him as a CIA asset. But none of this seems to be corroborated by any outside source that I could find.

So I don't know exactly what Thompson was doing in the Navy or how he came to know so much about the USS Liberty, but either way, he was very involved with this veterans group, and he was attending the fortieth anniversary reunion in DC that weekend. On Sunday, he left DC and began driving home to Florida. He made

it about halfway home. Again, I can't find any reporting about the accident that was written by someone I know believes the Holocaust happened so it's hard to say exactly what happened, but somewhere in Florence County, South Carolina, Thompson had a fatal single car accident. Even the conspiracy theorists have to begrudgingly admit that there's no sign of foul play. There's no actual reason to suspect this was anything but

an accident. He was a seventy six year old man who had an exciting but probably exhausting weekend with his old navy buddies, and then he got up at the crack of dawn to make a thirteen hour drive home. Halfway through the drive, he lost control of the vehicle and crashed. But these people have questions. Did he fall

asleep or was it masad. Describing Thompson's death, Merilyn Miller wrote, although foul play was not suspected, Dick had told me if prior Israeli massad surveillance, and writing in the conspiracy Theory rag American Free Press, Mark Glenn wrote that he and many others were very suspicious about the death because they believe Thompson was about to go public with information

that had never before been published. But again, there's no indication there was anything suspicious about the accident, and this same article by Mark Glenn includes this line as if

he had a premonition that his time was approaching. Thompson recently made known to the Liberty Veterans Association that in the event of his death, he did not want anyone wasting money on flowers for his funeral, or rather that such individuals should send money to the Liberty Veterans Association so that the truth concerning the attacks in the US

s liberty could continue to emerge. So if he's telling people what they should do if he dies and he's seventy six years old, do you think he was secretly assassinated by a foreign government staging a single car acttion that had witnesses? Or do you think maybe his health was failing and he did know his time was coming.

Hard to say which is more likely. I'm not the betting kind, but if I had to, I'd wager it was a car accident, distracted driving, heart attack, asleep at the wheel, something tragic and routine, but however ordinary his death was. It left Merlin Miller without funding to produce his screenplay, an action thriller romance called False Flag, The story of a brave and handsome reporter who uncovers the truth. But the US is liberty and nine to eleven, and he has to take matters into his own hands to

stop these false flags from causing World War three. I'm afraid we'll have to pick back up there next week. I got lost along the way again. I didn't even get to Merlin Miller's actual presidential campaign. To be honest, I don't think his heart was really in it. In an interview shortly after he announced he was running, he accidentally revealed to Richard Spencer that he didn't know what the third position in American third position party even meant.

And just weeks before election day, he wasn't out there pounding the pavement talking to voters. He was taking meetings in Tehran trying to get Iranian funding for his conspiracy theory movie. I'm not sure if he brought a copy of his screenplay to the twenty minute private meeting he had with Mahmun Amadinishad, but I do know he gave the Iranian president a copy of his two thousand and one Western Jericho on DVD. I wish Amadinashad was still on Twitter. I would have loved to ask him if

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