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Weird Little Guys

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Weird Little Guys is a weekly show about the worst people you’ve never heard of, taking you beyond the headlines to get to know the race warriors and aspiring terrorists trying to unravel the fabric of our society. Weaving together the origin stories of modern American white supremacist groups and the crimes that land their members in court, independent journalist Molly Conger exposes the monsters for what they really are - some weird guy. Whether they’re conspiring to build bombs or serving swastika shaped cookies at a dinner party, the weird little guys trying to destroy America are a little less scary with their masks off. 

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One Man Race War: Joseph Paul Franklin, Pt. 1

Years before he set off on his three year killing spree, Joseph Paul Franklin left his home in Alabama to attend a nazi conference in Virginia. Sources: Mel Ayton, Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin, Potomac Press, Inc., 2011 Belew, Kathleen. Bring the War Home : The White Power Movement and Paramilitary America. Harvard University Press, 2018. Sunshine, Spencer (2024). Neo-Nazi Terrorism and Countercultural Fascism: The Origins and Afterlife of Jam...

Jan 22, 202646 min

Cops & Klan

In 1965, a car full of klansmen shot and killed Viola Liuzzo, a white woman from Detroit who volunteered to drive civil rights activists back to Selma after the march to Montgomery. The FBI immediately kicked into overdrive to drag her name through the mud. Sources: Stanton, Mary. From Selma to Sorrow: The Life and Death of Viola Liuzzo. Athens: University of Georgia Press, 1998 Mendelsohn, Jack. The martyrs : sixteen who gave their lives for racial justice. Harper & Row 1966 https://www.jus...

Jan 15, 202658 min

Earl Turner's Diary

When the man responsible for bombing a federal building in Oklahoma City was arrested, he was carrying a page of his favorite book. The book had been sold at gun shows and in ads in nazi newsletters for years, but suddenly the rest of the country was asking... can a book kill? Sources: Berger, J.M. "The Turner Legacy: The Storied Origins and Enduring Impact of White Nationalism’s Deadly Bible", The International Centre for Counter-Terrorism - The Hague 7, no. 8 (2016). Belew, Kathleen. Bring the...

Jan 08, 202650 min

CZM Rewind: Blood River & Mission South Africa

Parts 7 & 8 of the South Africa arc. Blood River Original Air Date: 4.17.25 In 2002, a terrorist group failed to assassinate Nelson Mandela. In 2012, a plot to assassinate Jacob Zuma was foiled. Both plots were attempts to fulfill a prophecy and renew a bloody covenant with God. Sources: Thompson, Leonard L. The Political Mythology of Apartheid. Yale University Press, 1986. FA Mouton (1995) F A van Jaarsveld (1922–1995) — a flawed genius?, , 27:1, 5-11, DOI: 10.1080/00232089585310011 https:/...

Jan 01, 20261 hr 57 min

CZM Rewind: The Whites' Last Stand & The Jamboree in Jamba

Parts 5 & 6 of the South Africa arc. The Whites' Last Stand Original Air Date: 4.3.25 In the final days of apartheid, white extremists were getting desperate. That desperation contributed to one of the strangest political crises of the late 20th century. Sources: https://dcist.com/story/12/09/24/aryan-nations/ https://archive.idavox.com/index.php/2012/09/24/the-aryan-nations-show-of-farce-in-dc/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naRGivc7Ong Guelke, Adrian. “Political Violence and the South Afr...

Dec 30, 20251 hr 54 min

CZM Rewind: The White Wolf & White Guns for Hire

Parts 3 & 4 of the South Africa arc. The White Wolf Original Air Date: 3.2.25 In 1989, four Afrikaner nationalists and one German mercenary killed a security guard at a United Nations outpost in Namibia. After escaping from custody, they fled home to South Africa. A possibly non-existent group called The White Wolves took credit for the wave of bombings that followed. Sources: Du Preez, M. (2010). Pale native: Memories of a Renegade reporter. Zebra Press. Rotberg, Robert (1988). The Founder:...

Dec 25, 20251 hr 45 min

CZM Rewind: The White House Weighs in on White Genocide & Apartheid International

For the end of the year reruns, Weird Little Guys is revisiting the longest, strangest story of 2025 - the South Africa arc. Those eight episodes tell the strange story of how one little skinhead rally in California in 2012 connects to a vast international conspiracy to stop the election of Nelson Mandela in 1994. ---- The White House Weighs in on White Genocide Original Air Date: 2.27.25 In February of 2012, racist skinheads in California rallied at the capitol building in Sacramento. They were...

Dec 23, 20251 hr 45 min

Minisode: Reverse Q&A

In this minisode, Molly highlights a couple of listener answers to questions raised on the show. Most importantly, we finally find out what Dan Burros was watching on TV on November 10, 1962. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dec 19, 202510 min

The Florida Bar v Invictus

Augustus Invictus has finally been suspended by the Florida Bar for his felony conviction for participating in a nazi torch march in 2017. But when will he actually serve his jail sentence? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dec 18, 202543 min

The Insurrectionist: Tyler Dykes, Part Two

In 2017, Tyler Dykes marched in Charlottesville. In 2021, he breached the capitol. In 2026, he hopes to win a congressional election. Sources: https://www.postandcourier.com/beaufort-county/politics/tyler-dykes-campaign-sc1-congress/article_c255115c-45cf-430e-b4a4-160a322631e1.html https://www.thenation.com/article/society/givesendgo-crowdfunding-extremism/ https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67681795/united-states-v-dykes/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/17/racist-crowdfunding-campa...

Dec 11, 202557 min

CZM Rewind: Burning Hate: Tyler Dykes

This episode originally ran on October 17, 2024. There is a brief new introduction, but it's back at the top of your feed for listeners who didn't catch it the first time around. Today's regular episode picks up where this one left off. Sources: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-supporters-who-stormed-us-capitol-begin-leave-prison-following-sweeping-2025-01-21/ https://www.npr.org/2021/02/09/965472049/the-capitol-siege-the-arrested-and-their-stories https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-...

Dec 11, 202549 min

Weird Little Guys 2025 Q&A

Molly answers your weird little questions and shares her personal conspiracy theory about who tried and failed to assassinate a nazi in 1967. Sources: Donald Horton and Richard Wohl, 'Mass Communication and Parasocial Interaction: Observations on Intimacy at a Distance', Psychiatry 19: 215-29, 1956 https://www.participations.org/03-01-04-horton.pdf Nadora, Mikhaela, "Parasocial Relationships with Podcast Hosts" (2019). University Honors Theses. Paper 771. https://doi.org/10.15760/honors.789 See ...

Dec 04, 202556 min

CZM Rewind: Magic Beans

In 2017, a man showed up at the emergency room and confessed that he'd accidentally poisoned himself with homemade ricin. He was federally charged with possessing a biological agent, but his case was dismissed on almost unbelievable technicality. But he's not the only man who thinks he can create the perfect weapon from nothing but a handful of beans. Original Air Date: 7.31.25 Sources: https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional/ajc-watchdog-north-man-arrested-for-ricin-radicalized-online/wdxws9G7...

Nov 27, 202554 min

CZM Rewind: Revisionist History Riverboat Cruise: Curtis Maynard, Pt. 1

This episode originally ran on January 23, 2025. The second half of the story had to be taken down a few weeks later. That episode has now been rewritten and re-recorded. Before you listen to the newly released version of the lost episode, here's the original part one to refresh your memory. ------ In 2010, a rising star in the small world of holocaust denial blogging murdered his ex-wife and then took his own life. This first chapter of his story follows his path from a troubled career as a reg...

Nov 20, 202556 min

The Lost Episode: Nazis for Ron Paul: Curtis Maynard, Pt. 2

In 2007, a white nationalist known for his addiction to causing drama claimed he saw Ron Paul at a nazi supper club. Ron Paul supporters, including those on nazi message boards, pushed back. The feud that ensued led to Curtis Maynard's fall from grace as a holocaust denial blogger - he'd been keeping a secret from his readers. Sources: https://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/26/us/politics/ron-paul-disowns-extremists-views-but-doesnt-disavow-the-support.html https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watc...

Nov 20, 202555 min

CZM Rewind: An Accidental Nazi Rally

In 2017, an anti-Muslim nonprofit crowd-sourced the organization of a nationwide series of rallies. Many of the people who stepped up to help turned out to be well known white supremacists. Original Air Date: 2.13.25 Sources: https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2017/05/portland_suspect_in_2_slayings.html https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/27/portland-double-murder-white-supremacist-muslim-hate-speech https://islamophobia.org/special-reports/the-hate-that-act-for-america-wrought/ https:...

Nov 13, 202556 min

Disorganized Crime, Pt. 4

In the final chapter of his life, Frank Smith really did start the whites only church he first proposed to George Lincoln Rockwell. Sources: https://www.middlebury.edu/institute/academics/centers-initiatives/ctec/ctec-publications/christian-identitys-new-role-extreme-right https://gnet-research.org/2023/05/10/the-revitalisation-of-christian-identity-content-on-youtube-twitter-and-tiktok/ https://www.upi.com/Archives/1992/01/31/Ex-Rhode-Island-mayor-sentenced-for-racketeering/5824696834000/ https...

Nov 06, 202550 min

Disorganized Crime, Pt. 3

In 1965, Frank Smith was laying low in Maine after a failed mob hit nearly killed him. He reappeared a few months later in Virginia, acting as a body guard for his new best friend, the commander of the American Nazi Party. Sources: Schmaltz, William H. (2013). For Race And Nation: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. River's Bend Press Simonelli, Frederick J. (1999). American Fuehrer: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. Urbana: University of Illinois Press. Rosen...

Oct 30, 202550 min

The Other Rockwell

George Lincoln Rockwell was a nazi. Norman Rockwell was a painter. They didn't have much in common at all, but people can't seem to stop mixing them up. Sources: https://library.washu.edu/news/norman-rockwell-and-race-complicating-rockwells-legacy/ https://library.cqpress.com/cqalmanac/document.php?id=cqal66-1301767 https://www.nytimes.com/1966/10/06/archives/us-aide-attacks-bill-to-curb-riots-doar-in-house-testimony-doubts.html https://www.smh.com.au/national/spy-or-nazi-20120331-1w52i.html Ber...

Oct 28, 202518 min

Disorganized Crime, Pt. 2

When Frank Smith got out of prison in 1964, he went right back to working for the New England mafia. He also joined the American Nazi Party. And he had a dream that the two organizations could work together. Sources: https://newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/the-boston-irish-gang-wars-terrify-a-city/ https://www.nytimes.com/1965/11/04/archives/the-boston-gang-war-a-deadly-web-of-revenge.html https://mattofboston.com/boston-gang-wars-the-first-irish-gang-war-mclaughlin-v-mclean-introduction/ https:...

Oct 23, 202545 min

Disorganized Crime, Pt. 1

Before he joined the American Nazi Party in 1965, Frank Smith was already a career criminal working for the New England mafia. Sources: https://www.nytimes.com/1952/05/06/archives/friend-of-sutton-seized-as-suspect-in-schuster-death-armed-burglar.html https://www.ellsworthamerican.com/news/legacy-of-the-commander/article_c5ebf480-2fef-536c-aee8-11a2925441a0.html Simonelli, Frederick J. (1999). American Fuehrer: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. Urbana: University of Illinois P...

Oct 16, 202541 min

George Lincoln Rockwell's Coffin Flop

When the commander of the American Nazi Party died, he left instructions with his successor. He wanted the military funeral he was entitled to as an American veteran. It didn't go well. Sources: https://snccdigital.org/events/protests-danville-virginia/ https://www.thejc.com/life/lawyer-who-helped-a-loving-couple-nn57y8ct https://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article120224913.html https://www.abajournal.com/magazine/article/philip_hirschkop_peta_social_justice https://www.washi...

Oct 09, 202546 min

Death of a Demagogue, Pt. 3.5

In 1976, the recently paroled assassin went back to prison after being arrested in Charlottesville. He was acquitted on the charge of being naked in a stranger's living room, but he'd violated his parole. He's tried to stay out of the spotlight ever since. Decades later, his son wrote that he was a changed man. His comments after the 2017 Unite the Right rally say otherwise. Sources: Schmaltz, William H. (2013). For Race And Nation: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. River's Be...

Oct 03, 202532 min

Death of a Demagogue, Pt. 3

In the third episode of the story of George Lincoln Rockwell's assassin, Rockwell finally dies and his assassin goes on trial. Sources: Schmaltz, William H. (2013). For Race And Nation: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. River's Bend Press Simonelli, Frederick J. (1999). American Fuehrer: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. Urbana: University of Illinois Press. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/08/25/shocking-neo-nazis-fly-swastika-salute-a...

Oct 02, 202549 min

Death of a Demagogue, Pt. 2

In the year leading up to George Lincoln Rockwell's assassination, he was trying to take the American Nazi Party in a new direction. Not everyone within the party was on board with the changes. Sources: Schmaltz, William H. (2000). Hate: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. Washington, D.C.: Brassey's Schmaltz, William H. (2013). For Race And Nation: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. River's Bend Press Simonelli, Frederick J. (1999). American Fuehrer: George Li...

Sep 25, 202547 min

Death of a Demagogue

Sometimes when a weird little guy gets shot, the guy who killed him is just a weirder little guy. Sources: Schmaltz, William H. (2000). Hate: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. Washington, D.C.: Brassey's Schmaltz, William H. (2013). For Race And Nation: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. River's Bend Press Simonelli, Frederick J. (1999). American Fuehrer: George Lincoln Rockwell and the American Nazi Party. Urbana: University of Illinois Press. Lee, Martin A....

Sep 18, 202548 min

American Fart Party

The American Freedom Party and the American Fart party have a couple things in common - the acronym, for one thing. They've also both filed paperwork with the federal election commission claiming to be a national political party. One is a silly little joke about farts, the other is a group of white nationalists who don't know how to do paperwork. Sources: https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/american-freedom-party/ https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/identity-evrop...

Sep 11, 202556 min

Recalled, Replaced

In 2017, Judd Blevins marched in Charlottesville with men chanting 'you will not replace us.' In 2024, voters in Enid, Oklahoma replaced him - a recall election removed him from office as a city commissioner. During his short time in office, members of the American Freedom Party rallied to support him. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sep 04, 202544 min

A Secret Third Thing

After the 2012 election, the American Third Position Party rebranded. Not because their candidate lost, they expected that. But probably because their candidate didn't know what the party's name meant. Sources: https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/federalelections2012.pdf https://politicalresearch.org/2016/12/19/what-third-position https://www.splcenter.org/resources/reports/neofascism-european-style/ https://www.alternet.org/2008/07/surviving_a_weekend_with_americas_premiere_pro-...

Aug 28, 202541 min

Third Position

In 2012, a newly formed white nationalist political party tried to get their candidate on the ballot. The American Third Position Party wanted Americans to vote for Merlin Miller, but how did the party end up picking him? Sources: https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/federalelections2012.pdf#page=11 https://irehr.org/2018/06/14/what-is-the-american-freedom-party/ https://www.ocregister.com/2009/09/04/two-time-felon-runs-pro-white-political-group/ https://rosecityantifa.org/article...

Aug 21, 202547 min
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