When you're running your own business, it is so hard to make the time to learn. And I find the best way to make it happen is to have something in the diary that you've paid for, so you don't want to not turn up. I think for me, that's the best way to do it. And I think this is going to be, it's a whole day out of your schedule, but at the same time, you're going to get so much out of it, I think, with the four different interactive talks from you, Becca. So I'm really looking forward to it.
I'm Becca Pountney, wedding business marketing expert, speaker and blogger, and you're listening to the Wedding Pros Who Are Ready to Grow podcast. I'm here to share with you actionable tips, strategies, and real life examples to help you take your wedding business to the next level. If you are an ambitious wedding business owner that wants to take your passion and use it to build a profitable, sustainable business, doing what you love, then you're in the right place.
Let's get going with today's episode. Today I'm chatting with Stef Bennett, owner of Bennett's Willow Barn in Worcestershire, a wedding and events venue and cafe based on a family farm. Having got married on the farm herself back in 2016, they decided to open it up to others who are looking for a laid back, festival style wedding and the rest, as they say, is history.
Stef is fabulous and I'm looking forward to seeing her venue for myself when I visit in October as I run a training day at Bennett's Willow Barn, but more on that later. Stef, welcome to the podcast. Hello, Becca. Thanks very much for having me. Thank you for agreeing to do this. Now I want to go right back as we start this podcast through your history to find out what you did before you worked on a farm. So let's start there. Tell me where it all began career wise for you.
Right. So I started out as a solicitor. I was a property litigation specialist. I worked in Worcester and then Birmingham. And my now husband is a farmer. He's a dairy farmer. He's fifth generation on his family farm. It's been in the family for over a hundred years now. And it was always understood that if we were going to stay together, I'd end up moving onto his family farm, which I did.
and things happened between then and now that mean I'm now running a wedding venue, which is a little bit mad.
Yes, that is a little bit mad, quite a change to go from the job you had into working in farming. So at what point did you kind of stop the career and go into working all of the time on the farm?
I had my First two children quite close together, I, and I had full maternity leave with both of them, I was very much a solicitor and I thought that I would keep doing that, I perhaps would be part time when I went back to work, probably after the second one, and I did, I went back part time, but it had become very apparent that it wasn't really going to work alongside. a dairy farmer.
Me traveling into Birmingham even just a couple of times a week was going to be very difficult for our family life. I realized I would probably not see my children a huge amount and not have that flexibility. But also something else that was the, the catalyst for me quitting working in law and getting stuck in on the farm was that over COVID in March 2020 is when we started to set up our milk round. So I was still on maternity leave then. And that's when we.
use the demand for home deliveries in COVID to take the plunge and set up what is now our milk round business on the farm. And I think that time working for myself, although it was very difficult with two little ones not allowed in nursery doing all this work. I was working very late into the evening very often. And work with children hanging off my legs while I sat at, at the desk.
It was very difficult, but it, it established this different way of working where I had the flexibility to, to do what I needed to do when I could do it around the children. And I think when I started back at work as a solicitor I think it was the September time I went back to work. I lasted two weeks before I said, this isn't gonna work, . And then I, so I, I stopped working in the law and I went full on into. running the farm's diversifications. So that's what I do now.
I always say once an entrepreneur, you become completely unemployable, because when you get a taste of that life of working for yourself and doing your own thing, going back to work for someone else feels like a huge struggle. Now, life on a farm in general is probably something that most of us don't know anything about. Maybe we've watched a bit of Clarkson's Farm, but I'm not sure how close to reality that really is.
So just tell us, what is it day to day life for you and your family living on a farm?
I would say busy. We are a very busy family. A normal day for us starts off with my husband out on the farm before the rest of us have got up, so I'm primarily in charge of getting all our kids out the door and off to school and nursery. They're all quite little, so it's quite an undertaking. He does pop in, my husband does pop in when he can and help, but you know, he's out, the cows need feeding, milking, all those tasks that need doing to look after our few hundred cows every day.
I mean, he's got a team that help him, obviously, it's not just him, but he's very full on on the farm. And it just, it takes over really, you know, the farm when you've got livestock, the animals are so important. You know, the number of times we're late for events, because. A cow's poorly or, you know, a calf's been born and it's got stuck so he's got to go help it or a water trough's broken. You know, it's things like that where it's not a job that you switch on and off.
It's, it very, it's very much a living. You know, it's a livelihood and, and it is a way of life where we don't have days off as such, you know, we're always on call and It is very full on, but at the same time, he wouldn't want to be doing anything else. He is very much a farmer through and through. It's in his blood, and he wouldn't dream of doing anything else at all. He's happy as Larry out on his tractor or out with his cows.
And it's been difficult for me, I think, accepting that, because I'm not from a farming family at all. And so when you come into that way of living, It is quite hard, I think, to adjust, but I'm pretty much there now. And the, the benefits of seeing our children grow up on the farm are just amazing. You know, I think that's why we keep doing what we do. We, we are very lucky to be surrounded by an environment where our children can get outdoors and enjoy the outdoors properly.
So I think that's why we keep doing it really.
Yeah, I'm sure it's an incredible place to grow up. So many animals, so much going on, so many people. Now, as I mentioned in the intro, now you open your farm up and you have weddings and events happening on the farm. So just take us through how that happened. So you had your own wedding. at the farm. And how did that end up going from having your own wedding to, okay, let's let other people have their weddings here too.
Okay. So in 2014, we started the first diversification business on the farm. It's very difficult these days to make a living just through farming. Farming, you need to diversify. And you mentioned Jeremy Clarkson and Clarkson's farm. Then, you know, I think he, he explains that, that you need to be doing other things. You can't, just farm. And the first enterprise that we started as a diversification was our glamping site.
So we run Worcester glamping on the farm where we started off with five yurts that my husband built.
And we opened it up to, to people coming staycations on the farm and We then, we got engaged in 2015, so the yurts had had a full season, when we got engaged, we were just about to start the second season, and having built for these yurts, my husband said, well, how about I build us a big yurt for our wedding, because we wanted to get married on the farm, which I think most farmers probably want to do, but we realised a marquee wedding wasn't perhaps within our budget, and he went off
to design a yurt, a giant yurt in a couple of days time, he had the plans, he's a, he's a Civil engineer by profession. So he can do, you know, all the calcs and things. He's very, very clever like that. And he started to build us a giant yurt, which we put on a list in a little area of the farm, just next to where the yurts are. So it worked perfectly for people to stay in the yurts the night before and the night of the wedding.
It's a lovely little wooded area next to a big pond, which My long term plan is to develop the pond area into a beautiful woodland ceremony area. I think that would be lush down there. And so we had our wedding day there. That summer we had arranged with a couple of other people locally had heard what we were doing and they booked to use the yurt after us. And they paid us, I think about 500 pounds each, literally on the promise of this yurt would be ready.
I think, well, it's got to be ready for their wedding. So Presumably it will be ready for our wedding too. And it just worked so well. We had the most amazing day. We just, the, the key things we wanted were a good party, good food, and a free bar. Those were essentially the three necessities for our wedding. And it was so good and our, our family and friends loved it. And it just worked so well as a venue. And we stumbled into that.
niche of something a little different and more laid back without really realizing it because the next few years we did weddings alongside the glamping business but I did very little advertising for it and I certainly wasn't running it as a wedding business at all you know looking into everything you hear nowadays about knowing your ideal client and all those kind of marketing necessities I had no idea about but as it happens We'd fallen into that already, you know, we
would know from interviewing, I'd know if someone was likely to book us or not, because I was like, yeah, there are people or they're not our people. And so I think we, we really have stumbled into a niche that is very much needed around us. I think, you know outdoor country farm wedding setting, but close to a city center. So our transport links are there, but for people who want that wedding, that's a lot more. laid back. And yeah, it's just, it's brilliant for that.
And it's just grown from there year after year with, you know, improvements to our garden and, and then we built so that was how the yurt started. So we did the first few years of weddings with just the yurt, but over time we came up with a plan to build a more permanent structure. And so we designed and put in planning permission for what is now the barn, Bennetts Willow Barn. And it's been built just immediately behind the yurt.
And so it makes a lovely little personal, personalized space, exclusive space for couples to have their wedding. So they have space in the barn, the yurt and the garden all together. And that space is for the couple to use. however they want. And on the side of the barn is, is our farm cafe, which is open every day as well. But the way we've designed it, it means that when you're having your wedding celebration with us. you don't know that the cafe is running.
So it's, it's been done quite cleverly like that, but it means we've got a premises that we can make use of every day, pretty much every day of the year, really.
And it's a much needed gap in the market as well, because so many venues have so many restrictions on what people can do. And yet I know that you Pride yourselves on letting people almost do whatever they want in a fashion, having a laid back approach, bringing in their own catering, bringing in their own food trucks, doing basically whatever they want, because that's what you were able to do on your farm and you want to give the same opportunities to others.
Absolutely. That, that kind of approach where it was, we had in mind what we wanted for our wedding. We like the ideas that our couples can do that and, you know, we do do catering, we do offer catering, but We don't make our couples use us. If they've got that street food van that they've got their eye on, they are more than welcome to bring them in for their wedding. And flexibility is something that comes back to us a lot in our testimonials and feedback from our couples.
They love that we're flexible and that we work with them to, you know, to build the day that they want, really. I mean, I saw something came up on Instagram last week. Somebody had written a post saying your wedding will not be the best day of your life. And it was a post aimed at, I get where it was coming from, at, at aiming people towards those high expectations. I think, especially these days with Instagram, people do have visions in the head of what they want.
the way, exactly what they want the wedding to be like. And they were trying to build people down from that. And I, I get what they were trying to do, but at the same time I read it and I just thought if your wedding isn't the best day of your life, you haven't done your wedding the right way. You know, we see it a lot. People might come with a mom or a sister or someone. And you can see that they're putting some pressure on the couple to not do what the couple obviously want to do.
I think it's, it is your day, and if you plan the day that you want, it will be the most amazing day of your life. But you have to stand back and think, what do I want? What do we want from our wedding day? What's important to us? And find your venue and find your suppliers based on those discussions together. You don't need to do a wedding a particular way. You know, you don't need to follow particular traditions. There's things you can cut out or things you can add on if you want to.
And I think that's, that's what I love about working in the wedding industry. Really, when you're working in the more relaxed side of the wedding industry that we work in, all of our couples have that. a brilliant day. And it's because they've chosen to do it their way. And I love that.
Yeah, it's so true. It's definitely possible to have the best day of your life on your wedding day. I look back on my wedding day. I absolutely loved it. It was so much fun and we did things our way. Exactly that. And there's room in the industry for all of these different kinds of supplies, all of these different kinds of venues, because there's all these different kinds of couples that are getting married.
Now you've obviously entered the wedding market almost unexpectedly and I know that the wedding industry is one of the best places to work, but it's not always easy. So thinking back over your journey of kind of going into the wedding industry, being a wedding venue, what have been some of the high points and what have been some of the low points?
So the high points is definitely seeing people enjoying the venue. I mean, there's nothing better than when I stand at the edge of our garden and look across it at It's full of couples and their family and their friends having a great time. I mean, our wedding garden is just stunning in the evening. It's full of festoon lights and it glows. And when, you know, you can hear the, the DJ or the band are getting ready in the barn.
So the music's drifting out a bit and you just feel the excitement around you. And it's really wonderful to stand back. And every now and then I have to pinch myself and think we built this. which is absolutely nuts. I still every now and then I just have one of those moments where I look back and I think how different my life could have been. And to think that I am running this wedding venue now where people do get to celebrate the best day of their lives with us is just phenomenal.
And yeah, that that's a good feeling. That's definitely a high. And the lows are, it's, It is very tough generally as a business. I think, I think running any business is tough, but the wedding industry, you're having to look ahead so much because generally people book far ahead, you know, what we are doing now with our marketing and our sales is going to determine. how our 2026 is, basically.
So you're always having to be working, looking so far forward that that can become quite stressful, I think, at times. But I've learned so much over the last few years, since we started doing weddings properly a few years ago, when we opened the Willow Barn, and I've taken it seriously as a business. I mean, I've had to, because, you know, we've got a big mortgage to pay every month and I've got a staff team that need paying every month. You know, this isn't just me.
It's, it's not a family that will suffer if we don't make this business work. You know, my, I've got to make it work for the sake of my amazing team. So it's, and the couples, of course, have booked us. So there's a lot of pressure. in that way. But I feel that three years on, we are finally getting there now.
Absolutely. And it is a wild industry that we work in because we go through these phases of thinking, what are we doing? We need to give up. And then we get there on a wedding day and see people having the best day of their lives and realize we're part of it. And we suddenly think we've got the best job in the world and we are up and down like a rollercoaster in all different areas of the industry.
Now I think one of the interesting things about owning a venue is how much the other local suppliers want to be involved and want to get to know you. I always think the venue is kind of the central point of the weddings that happen, the wedding industry, and I talk a lot to my clients about getting recommended by venues and building relationships with venues. How have you found it getting to know local suppliers in your area and have you built some great relationships with people?
Yeah, we have some great working relationships with some local suppliers as people who we, we work with time and time again when it comes to style shoots or a fair, you know, that they're always first port of call for wedding fairs. And I really enjoy that side of it. I do enjoy the networking side of it and building those relationships. What I, what surprises me though, is that we don't have more people trying to get in with us.
And I think because I, I agree that as a venue you do, you're quite important in terms of building those relationships because generally a couple will book their venue first. And so once you've booked your venue, you'll look to the venue for recommendations. I would say most of our couples look to us for guidance on what photographer to book or cakes, you know, they, they will consider our recommender supplier list, if not be asking for us and only book off that.
And, So I do wonder if there's a lack of confidence among some suppliers in taking that step to get to know their local venues. And it's not about making friends with all the local venues. You need to find the ones that suit you. You know, like for us, we're, we're not a fancy formal high end wedding, wedding venue.
So, If you're a florist who only, you know, your minimum spend is really high because you only do really high end luxury weddings, obviously there's, we're not going to end up working together. It's very unlikely that that will happen. So you do need to pick and choose who you work with, but it won't, you know, when you find Venues and suppliers who align well together, amazing work can happen.
We've done some absolutely fantastic style shoots over the last couple of years where we've chosen the suppliers to work with very carefully because we know that we'll give them a mini brief and they will just pull it out the bag and make it absolutely sensational. And so I'm a firm believer that if you find the right people to be working with, then We'll, we'll always end up rubbing off each other wanting to work together.
I mean, there's suppliers who try, you know, they want to sign up to our wedding fairs and things. That's the best way to get an in with us, you know, to, to sign up to our wedding fair. And that's a great chance to have a good chat with us and and we can get to know what it is about what you offer that might work well for our customers. So yeah, wedding fairs are a great way to, to get involved with venues, I think.
And I do think a lot of it does come down to confidence. I think people probably look at you on Instagram, look at your website and think, Oh, I'd love to work there, but just feel too scared to reach out or not quite sure how to do it or how to reach out. build that relationship and they're so scared of being turned away or ignored. So if you've got any tips, obviously you said coming along to your wedding fair is a good starting place.
So any other tips you've got for how you like people to kind of approach you?
I think it's just building some rapport to start with, you know, liking posts on Instagram and commenting. Oh my goodness, I love that. That's, I'd love to do something like that at your venue. What I dislike is when I get a message completely out of the blue from somebody, either an email or an Instagram message that says, Hi, I do this, can I be on your recommender suppliers list? And I just think, I don't even know who you are. You know, you've never commented on a, an Instagram post.
You've appeared out of the blue. I, it just, it feels like that's not really the right way to do it. You know, we, we have a recommender suppliers list that is, that they are genuine recommendations. We don't take any kickbacks from our suppliers on our suppliers list. They are genuine recommendations of people we've worked with either through shoots or, or through our.
We all couples weddings and that we like working with, you know, it's been a positive experience all round and that we feel they're aligned to our and our ethos. And so just getting in touch and starting some casual conversations in that way really is, is the best way I think showing an interest in the venue, making it obvious that you enjoy what that venue are doing and yeah, asking to get involved when there are things that are going on rather than just a message out of the blue.
asking for, for something, I think is probably not the best way to do it.
Yeah, absolutely. It's definitely not the best way to do it. And even now, I still get messages on things like LinkedIn to me saying, I make stationery. Can you tell people about it? I'm like, no. But it's not, you know, I don't know anything about you. I don't know who you are. You, I don't know what you think I'm going to help you with, but it's just a bit bonkers. So if you are the people sending those messages, it's just time to rethink about how we make these approaches.
But most venues and most other suppliers are willing to be chatting and making these relationships. We just need to think about how we go about doing it. Now you mentioned a little bit earlier about how over the last couple of years you've decided to take your business more seriously as you put it and you've invested a lot more in training and development, learning about the wedding industry, thinking more about how you move your business forward.
Why do you think that training and business development is so important to your business?
Well, when you run a business, you have, you're the decision maker on pretty much everything, but you can't know about everything. You have to wear all the hats and you have to find ways to be making informed decisions on what you're doing. And the only way to do that is by training and, and business development, really to, to grow yourself as an individual, to know what's the best way to take your business forward. And often.
It's just having those conversations with people and throwing ideas in the air. And you might hear that there's a slightly different way to do something. Oh, actually, that could really work for us. Let's give that a go. Because sometimes you're so tunnel visioned in running your business that you forget to take a step back and look at how it's doing overall and how it's doing in certain areas. I mean, one of the most important things that I've learned is that numbers is key.
You have to know the numbers for your business because it's those numbers that tell you what's working well, what's not working. You can improve on, you know, we, We know at any given point now how many weddings and what the value is for the next year or two compared to the same date last year, you know, things like that are really important rather than Just looking in and saying oh, we've got looks like we've got x weddings booked in next year. Well, what does that mean?
You know it you need to be looking at so much more than just that key number of how many weddings you're doing because there's a lot more to it than that.
Yeah, absolutely. And I think sometimes, especially when we start out in business, we can go too much on emotion and how we're feeling. And actually we have to go back and look at the cold hard facts. I mean, sometimes I'll have a meeting with someone and they'll say, I just feel like business is really bad this year. And I'll say, well, what did you do last year? Well, last year I did this many and I'm doing more this year. So I'm like, well, why do you feel like it's. going so badly then?
Because actually, sometimes when we look at the numbers, the reality is different to how we feel in our head. And actually how we feel in our head, as we said earlier, can change from the day when you're stood watching people getting married and thinking this is the best job ever to a couple of weeks later when something's not gone so well, or someone said no, or someone you thought was going to book has decided to go elsewhere, and you go the opposite way. So you're absolutely right.
We have to, Get our head around these numbers. We've got to know what's happening, what's coming up, and if anyone's listening and you haven't done that, I really recommend that you start doing it because it will not only make you feel calmer in yourself because you've got some cold hard facts to look at, but it will also help you drive your business forward. as well and have targets to go for.
Now, Stef, as I said in the intro, I am super excited because I am actually finally coming to Bennett's Willow Barn and Bennett's Willow Farm to come and see you in October. So on October the 2nd, I'm coming down to run a training day for your venue team and for any suppliers that are local and want to come along, or even if they want to come from further afield. So tell me a little bit about that day and what it's going to look like from your perspective.
Yep. So, Becca, you are going to be with us for the whole day, and we're going to kick things off at about 9. 30 with tea, coffee and pastries and a bit of mingling. And then you are going to do four talks with us throughout the day. So, about today's couple and what they want, competitor analysis and key marketing messages. customer journey and sales funnel, and a little bit on social media training, looking at what to post, when to post, et cetera.
And those four talks are going to be split up during the day. We're going to have a nice lunch. So you can choose when you book your ticket, an afternoon tea or a plowman's and then we'll have tea and cake again in the afternoon. So lots of yummy food. We source most of our food locally and do most things in house. So yummy homemade locally sourced. food.
So it will be a day full of wonderful training with you and yummy food and a great chance to meet up with lots of other wedding suppliers across different areas of the industry I'm hoping. And we can all celebrate the The, yeah, the end of the season I think is always a bit nuts for everybody. So it will be a nice chance to hopefully have a bit of a breather to celebrate the end of the key 2024 season, but start prepping ready for 2025.
Yeah, absolutely. We're in that key time of year. I was saying that in the Members Lounge call this morning, that we're in that key time of the year where we're kind of coming to the end of busy wedding season and we feel like, oh, we can take a rest, but we're also then thinking, but we also need to start gearing up and getting ready for engagement season and 2025 and all of that busy time as well. So it is coming at the perfect time. I'm really looking forward to it.
My plan for that day is to run Very interactive workshop style session. So it's not like just coming to watch me do a stage talk. It's much more of a hands on experience than that. So whoever's in the room, we're going to get to grips with sales funnels, things like that, exactly as Stef said, but it's going to be interactive. We're going to be looking at each other's businesses. We're going to be looking at competitors. We're going to be looking at our own competitors.
We're going to be doing all sorts of workshop related things that number one, you can't do if it's online. And number two, you can't do if it's just a stage talk. So we are going to be digging deep that day, but there's also gonna be lots of time for networking, chatting to me. And it's a great opportunity to come and meet Stef as well. Get down and go and see Bennet's Willow Barn, because exactly as she was saying earlier, if you want to build relationships, You need to be in the room.
You need to find the right people on the right day. So it is going to be an exciting day. So if people are listening to this and thinking about coming along, Stef, why do you think it's worth them giving up a day of their time, putting some money towards a ticket and coming along that day?
When you're running your own business, it is so hard to make the time to learn. And I find the best way to make it happen is to have something in the diary, whether it's a whole day or a half day, but something in the diary that you need, that you've paid for. So you don't want to, to not turn up. I think for me, that's the best way to do it.
And I think this is going to be, it's a whole day out of your schedule, but at the same time, you're going to get so much out of it, I think, with the four different interactive talks from you, Becca. So I'm really looking forward to it.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it as well. And again, that's a benefit of it being quite interactive because sometimes I go to conferences or I give talks at conferences and there's so much information coming at you on that day that you then don't then have the time to go and implement it. So my hope for the day when I come down.
to you is that not only will we be talking about things, but trying to be implementing and making plans while we're in the room as well, so that we're not having to then go away and spend hours doing things after the session. But actually we're making the most of our time together, not only networking and mingling, but learning and then implementing as well. So it's going to be a lot of fun. If people want to get tickets, Stef, just tell us a little bit about the ticket price.
And I believe you've created a special discount as well for my listeners.
I have, yeah. So, tickets are 85 each, although if you use the code BECCA, you can get 10 percent off. So, anyone who's listening to this podcast 10 percent off their ticket. And that 85 includes the entire day, so everything you need. That's the, the food and drink as well as the, the training sessions by BECCA.
Yeah, which is amazing value to get all of that as well. I mean, I'll let you into a secret, Stef. I'm going for afternoon tea in London that same week and it's costing me 75 just for the afternoon tea. I'm not even getting any training or anything like that. So if you're listening to this, it is an absolute bargain to get your afternoon tea and all the training as well. For the same price as I'm paying just for afternoon tea in London.
Do come along and I will make sure I put the link to that in the show notes as well. If you've got any questions, reach out to Stef. Or myself, but I hope that I'll see lots of you there on the day. And if you're in that room, we're going to have a great time. So do try and be there. As I always say, you have to be in the room where it happens to find out what we're going to be doing in more detail that day. So Stef, we've got the training day coming up. We've had a busy wedding season.
You're already planning ahead. What's next for you? What's next for Bennetts over the next couple of years?
We're just trying to consolidate what we're doing really. We have been so busy the last few years. I mean, the winter just gone, we made a new yurt canvas. So up until last summer was the original yurt, which was starting to look a bit tired.
So, yeah, we're just I'm hoping that this, the next couple of years are just going to be a little bit gentler for us really and we can continue booking in those couples who want those want that fun laid back wedding day and have a great time with them and just keep making improvements to the, to the site really. As I say, longer term my plan is to have a, a wonderful woodland lakeside area. ceremony area, but we've just been projects non stop for the last several years.
So we just need to try and slow down a bit and enjoy what we've got and work with what we've got for a little while.
Yeah, absolutely. Take a breather, a hard earned break. rest, if you can call it a rest, and actually just enjoy doing all of the things that you've put all this hard work into over the last few years. Now, Stef, it's been so much fun having you on the podcast. I always end the podcast with the same question, and I know that you're an avid listener, so you'll know what the question is straight away, and it's what's one thing you wish you'd known sooner in your own business?
I wish I had known how important the numbers were. sooner because if we'd started off looking at the numbers our first year or two would have been quite as difficult as they turned out to be. I think the planning ahead we were missing the information that we needed to be making the decisions that we had to make and so I wish I just paid a lot more attention to the number crunching.
100 percent agree with you. If you're listening to this, please pay attention to your numbers. Stop putting your head in the sand, get those numbers out on paper, and then you can make much better decisions. Stef, thank you so much for your time today. Thank you for being on the podcast. And I cannot wait to see you on the farm in October.
Thanks, Becca. Look forward to seeing you then.
I love that episode with Stef. What a fascinating life to be living and working on a farm and working in the wedding industry at the same time. If you want to come along to that training day on the 2nd of October, I hope that I will see you there. I will make sure the link is in the show notes. Come and have a look at the farm, come and meet Stef and come and learn about your wedding business and how to grow it in 2025 as well. I'll see you next time.