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They Call Me Big Meech Feat, Rayan Lawrence

Feb 23, 20231 hr 1 minSeason 3Ep. 108
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This week our "We Talk Back" ladies Tambam and AJ speak on the S.I.N.S of the week such as Rihanna's superbowl performance and clapping back to the hurt men criticizing her Vogue cover. They also speak on Don Lemon's recent comments on woman in their prime, and Mac Mclung not feeding into the stereo type that white men can't jump, as he won the dunk contest at the All Star Game. Moreover, they had special guest actor Rayan Lawrence from Starz show BMF stop by where they spoke about how he started, the challanges of acting and even shared a simp story.

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Let's talk. We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who talks back. What's up y'all? Thank you for tuning in for a new episode, though we talked back a show dedicated to you niggas and these holes. What's up, y'all, it's your girl aj Holiday. Yeah, hey, y'all, I love y'all. Listen, n welcome back again and this is for the ladies. We said, the niggas, the holes, and everybody in between us. We don't want to exclude y'all. The Regulus and how

good girl chilling out another jay uh oh? I went to eighty five South on Friday. That was nice after seeing them niggas all week. Um, it was a good booty to booty. It was real good. I love them. Listen call us Miller and I know we did an episode coming up, y'all. We nav green, but those might be like two of the funniest niggas in America. Yes, just funny for no damn reason. And that's super improv I don't know. I'm pretty sure some of that should

have scripted. But he he coming off the dome, Yes, he'd be coming off the dome. But I love Carlos Miller. So yeah, that was a good time. And shit, we're coming off and working all week. Last week y'all, we actually was getting out fucking hands and feet dirty, y'all. Yeah, So y'all just keep your eyes and ears open because we got some new ship coming up for y'all this weekend. I actually I didn't do anything much on Friday and Saturday.

I was just chilling, rubbing my feet together at home, and then I wanted to go to the Reeds Live show, and Taylor, our producer, hit me up and told me she had a ticket if I wanted if I still was interested, and I just hopped on a plane Sunday morning and flew to New York so I could go to the live show and just soak up some of that energy. Were prepared for our live show, so I just wanted to watch and see how it would go.

And it was really good. It's a great time. They have a cult following, I mean, their fans are super fans, and I love that for them. So that was a lot of fun. And then we went to the after party and it was just definitely a Beyonce concert, honestly, like it was the whole time plane. But that was a lot of fun. So I did that. I needed a lesson to some of their shows. I haven't have you. Oh yeah, I have listened to a couple of a couple of their shows. It is called a read for

a reason because babe be reading one. Oh that's what it's like. They'd be telling people off on the show. Not telling people off on show, but just their opedons right, very yes, they will read you for fiddle shame. Yeah. And it's a good time. So and they're really funny, they're quick with you know, very witty people. So it

was good time. But all right, before we get into its stupid internet names, today is February twenty third, and it is National Rationalization Day, So all you motherfuckers who like to rationalize shit. While y'all did that ship, today it's the day for it. You can rationalize as much as you wish to today. Tomorrow we're gonna continue to hold you accountable. And then it's also National Dog Biscuit Day.

So if you have a dog that you love and people are really like treating these dogs like actual humans, now go get them a new dog biscuit for today because it's their holiday. It's this pet store I found recently, and I'd be going in there just the whole dogs. They got like thirty dogs in there. It's so sad. You just take when I'm home. Girl, let me tell you, I have got an estimate on this little um uh Lottle Carco spaniel. H what's it called. It's like something

like in that same family of dogs. Thirty one hundred dollars they won for this dog exactly. Who'd I've been in the goddance store for three months, like I need a Clarence puppy at this point. Talk about them. Kevin got thirty one hundred dollars for a dog. Well, you can go to the like the ASPCA or something like that. All see. Now, I don't want that much of a discount, Okay, I don't want puppy puppy mill dogg. You know I'm good on that, all right. So, uh, today and stupid

internet news, I found this kind of interesting. So there's this uh young lady. Okay, she's a twenty nine year old um from the UK. She has a degree in engineer and she's actually an engineer graduated from the University of a Whole Um twenty nine years old again, but she had been fundating. She graduated from the University of Hope. Well I ain't ever heard of that school. Hop h

U l L Yeah, same thing. But baby girl, but our head get into the bag, you know, selling literally selling cocaine, hero on marijuana to fund her lavish lifestyle. And I mean, this is nothing new, Like, you know, we've got females that sell drugs. If you see her, she's a pretty blonde hair, blue eyed, white girl. And she got caught because she got stopped for speeding and she had a bunch of drugs in a car and money.

So just God, was like up time, my bitch. The thing about this story I found the most interesting is the comments from our lovely kings in regards to this bunny being arrested for selling drugs. They ready to risk it all for her, but let it have been a damn black woman, and y'all, y'all would probably be able to um find some reason why we so fucked up for selling drugs, Like everybody don't sell drugs, Like we would be the worst for having gotten caught. We'd be

the worst for selling drugs. Based on today's climbing amongst black men and women, but they love uh low blood. She's in jail, Yeah, she's in jail. This had just happened recently. Y'all niggas put some money on her books, calling her an entrepreneurial queen. You know what I'm saying. But we we opened up a boutique or a hair store, our hair company. It's a problem a y'all bitches, dudes,

where we even sell weave? But she could sell weed, nigga, I said, we weed and babysit all out the same village. What you gonna do it smart and beautiful. You know. It was just real nice how they were supporting her. I just wish that as black. I mean, we could get the same type of support when we're doing good stuff, right or illegal shit or illegal shit, because it's somewhere

as a man benefiting off of it. Yeah, perhaps perhaps there's a man allegedly all right, So I don't know if y'all were under the rock, but Rihanna and a Sap and the baby were on the cover of British Folk for March and if you haven't seen the pictures, Rihanna in the forefront and they're printing through the sand on the beach and a sap and the baby isn't toe behind holding her hand, and she's looking in the camera, and he is kissing this cute little lovable bird and

following suit. And there's a lot of people, I think, mostly men, perhaps I was for sure, but they were upset with what the image portrayed to them as like diminishing the value of the black men in the family. And I was just like, man, I'll just find a reason to be mad about everything. God damn. I mean the magazine, the Vogue is about this billionaire bitch that they want they didn't want, you know, he said, he is the family member and she is the forefront because

this is about her. Like I'm sure if they do if somebody does a magazine article on perhaps being in trouble for shooting somebody, he might be in the fronts, right, the she could have done Vogue by herself. She included her boyfriend, the father of her son, like that's a good deed. And now she does look way I noticed it before the Internet started acting crazy about it, like how much bigger she looks because they do have him like in the ford, you know, in the background, the

bad right, But I don't see the problem. She didn't have to include him at all. She could have done that with just her baby. You know, then you guys would say something about that as well. Right, So I believe Asap supports her and everything she does. You saw him at the super Bowl. He was exactly applauding her on the sideline. Like. The other part that I don't understand is so people are making jokes, men specifically saying like, oh yeah, he got a pregnant again, he getting that bag.

But y'all don't like the image that portrays a woman being the head when he's putting babies in her, Like this is y'all joke. Now, this is not our joke. Okay, him putting babies in her to get the bag, like to get her money, right, But that's what this looks like if the woman is the head, right, you can't have it both ways. I feel like we just kind of damned if you do, damned if you don't. And I don't know, I'm starting to already know that it's

the men who actually like women. They aren't the ones that are talking a lot. And if you fucking a billionaire and getting a billionaire of walking back and just being quite. They don't want to walk beside us. They don't want to walk beside us. They don't want us in front of him either. They actually want to be on top of us. That's it. That's it, because what are y'all complaining for? It's her cover like, it's about her. It doesn't mean that he is not a man in relationship? Right?

What's the last time Asap Rocky even put anything out? Has I'm pretty sure she's done Vogue before? Has Asap? Has Asap Rocky ever done Vogue this time? Yeah? Yeah, like just relax, okay, yeah, because it saying it? M all right? So Tam, did you see how Don Lemon he was absent from seeing any other day? Basically the nigga was a no call, no show after talking shit about Nicki Haley. She's fifty one running for president. She's

a woman, right yep. He basically said, um that she should be careful when speaking on people not being in their prime because she's a fifty one year old woman that's past her prime. Now we're talking about being the president. Are we talking about baby making prime? Like? What are you talking about? Don Laman? It got it gotta be baby making prime because our current president is much older than Nicky Haley? Right, So what are you speaking to? Don? Right? So? Why? Why? Did?

Why are we even why is that even a topic of discussion Because this woman is running for president? What does her child bearing years have to do with her being capable of being the president of the United States. I'm confused. Zass needs to actually be fired. I'm really tired of Don Laman. Look one of the one of the people for Fox to be calling that boy, Don Laman. It's kind of disrespectful, right, but it's funny, Don Laman,

What are you talking about? I actually like though I like him, I don't he is so funny during the New Year's Eve. Shit, Yeah, yeah, okay, I'm talking about his real the point of views that he has. Specifically, I stopped liking his ass many years ago when his face looked a lot younger. Um, he was pandering too the white community as far as I'm concerned, and talking so much shit about the black community. Really no, yes,

I'll sing you the clip. This is earlier on So I guess he was trying to establish himself to let them know what side he was on, and he's not on our side. No, okay at all, Yes, don Lemon, and he did that, and it was you know, I'm not I'm not a huge fan of Nikki Halet myself either, but I don't like him implying that being able to bear child has any validity on how she can run

the country. So right, yes, so he went to he took the Twitter and he said the reference, the reference I made to a woman's prom time this morning wash in artful and irrelevant, as colleagues and loved ones have pointed out, and I and I regret it. A woman's age doesn't define her, either personally or professionally. I have countless women in my life who proved that every day. So why I paid you accept? I don't accept all sories. I'm sorry, because why did you? It was just really

weird where he took it. It was weird. It like his comment is not going to change the outcome of her election or not being elected. So it's just really weird because this is a man who doesn't you don't never mind. Next on the docket, all right, um, it is Black History Month and it was actually this past weekend we celebrated the stars of All All Star Weekend in Utah half and they had the dunk contest and baby mc mcclunk dunked all of our black asses or

Black History Month. I mean, you know what I wanted to say, like, oh, they cheated and gave that white boy to win. But baby, no, this nigga was doing uh simone bows flips to the goddamn basketball goal, like just spinning in the air and dunking like like he was on ice skates, just spinning in the sky. And I was like, shame this white boy. But you know what, I really enjoyed it because the last few years the dunk contests been sorry as fuck. It was just boring.

It's like Nick's just running up and putting it in the hole like they do at my house. It's like jo. So yeah, that was good, but it just made me feel like I don't know this black history one wing that black and enough. Yeah, we spent it too much shop trying to be white. That's why now, like what's happening. A lot of people they just want to trade places. They don't want to change the program, they just want to trade places to the stars of all weekend. It

was in Utah, wasn't it. No, But not want to go there. Have you ever been to the Stars of All weekend? Is it all Star? Is it that what you're talking about? Yea, Stars of All. I never heard it called Stars of All, but I just Stars of All um. I only went when they came to Charlotte. Like, I've never traveled to go to All Star. I like football, and no, I've never been to a Super Bowl either, so I would Yes, I would definitely go to our Super Bowl. Going to an All Star game not really

my top of my list of things too. You know, I like going to ball the basketball games. I really don't watch the games as much, kind of just be like in the there. Yeah, I just like being in the mix. And see, I watched the football game basketball. I get bored niggas at the football. I like watching football on TV better than at the game. I don't know. Something about being somewhere warm and cozy is just so much better being on them cold ass seats, like you

can't be in a sweet and that's better. But they seem so far away, like they're so small out there, even if you have good seats, they're so far away running they don't even look like they're running fast, right, They would be running full speed. But when you're sitting out there, look like nigga is way on the side of that field. So I don't like it. No, I don't know. I prefer football. Do we have a mc McClung channel. He's in the mcmiller so because then he

has a nigga in him dunking that ball. Mac miller is still white all right, yeah, but he's another like you know, channel hybrid, another hybrid. Okay, got it? Well, you invited to the cookout, Matt. Obviously white man can jump, yes, period, So we can discard. And today's Batty of the Week goes to Rashida Jones. I love the name, okay, and that's not to be confused with the actress who bears

the same name. But she just became MSNBC's new president, and doing so, she became the first black woman ever to run a major news network. It's the last, excuse me. It's the latest step in a long and fruitful career for Jones, who has in the past been a director at the Weather Channel, it says, as well as a daytime executive producer and the vice president at MSNBC. All Right, Rashida Jones we salute you. Yeah, you are a batty who talks back. Yes, all right, So we have a

special guests on he is pretty much a killer here. Okay, he plays K nine on BMF. If y'all don't watch that show, you need to tune in those stars. We're gonna get all in his businesses. So y'all we'll be right back. All right, y'all, listen, shit, today's guest says he was the one that put big meat you on in the streets. It was he, It was him. He was the first K nine. But all right, Peter the real K nine. But we have Rayon Lawrence on We Talked Back, who portrays K nine and the Stars drama

series b m F. What's up Rayon? Okay, y, yes, we really appreciate it. So listen, this is kick it off. So when people first uh see you pop up, I guess they probably assume you just popped up somewhere on BMF. But you've been at this for a while, So tell our listeners when you got started, how long have you been the game? Maybe even go over some of your other works, what you got going on? Yeah, yeah, definitely, so, uh that's started the business, you know, a little bit

of go. You know what I'm saying. My very first edition ESPA commercial and I booked that and then from there I was doing modeling and acting together. I feel acting, you know, was more interesting for me to do modeling. You just standing there taking photos and stuff like that's foreign. But as an actor you get to really do research and deep dive into these characters. So I've been fortunate enough to do a lot of good stuff from big

time commercials, theater, music videos, what else. And you've probably seen stuff like Tyler Very, House of Pain, Pimp for KEII, Partment dal Max It blew Blood Underground, what a magnam Pi power. So I've been a part of fifty cent universe. Yeah, I've been. I've been a game for some time. I've been able fortunate to do some work. This This nigga was in the Big Pemp and video Sam Like. I was like, way because I can't find his age. I like to be. I like to know our guests signs

before we get here. It's like a little baseline for me, but I can't find it. Big Pemp and I Nigga that for yeah, Like I went to uh research you because I'd be trying to get your personal business. It's I couldn't find ship about your personal business online. Well I try to look up Keen now and I can't find nothing on the street. Nigga, you an actor. I want to know who you go with you. That's what I was trying to find. Yo, can't find nothing. You know what I'm saying. I got to keep something. So

that was my question. Do you prefer like just to keep your personal life separate? You just like to stay on brand when it comes to acting. I mean especially with social media, Like people like to see your real life, but mostly we see your actor and your roles. We see more right right. I used to have more of my personal stuff, all my igen and you know, uh my team. Um. Also some French family would tell me, yea,

you gotta clenefit social media. You know, we knew that this role, commoditi role might be a you know, a popular role. So it was like you put your girlfriend off your social media. That's what we're hearing now. A lot of things up the I tak a lot of things up the social media. Um. So that's why you see right now, you just see at your stuff. You so listen, so listen. I'm Jamaican, so you know, I can't ask my dance, you know, so I get down to my dance, so so I can't we have it,

kna I don't be dancing straight up. People see me at the club like, yo, right, why you not dance? Can don't dance? That's it, That's all right up, that's how it is. So we only know K nine, right, So how does K nine and rayon? You know? What's the similarities in the differences? Uh? Similarities is or the similarities we have is we don't like to be disrespected. I don't like to be disrespected. And we know where Knaan goes once he disrespected. That's what the similarities we have.

I like to as I call it sess and rising. So I like to re allot the jewelry you like to realize. We like to dress nice. Also, we played basketball at a high level. You know, he was like the street legendar Detroit. I played basketball high level, y'all. I was nice. I'm telling y'all type I was. Um. The differences we have is that, um, I know he was getting down and the dances that I can win,

you know when it comes to h Yeah, dancing right. Yeah, so that's one of the probably the major differences we have. I don't know if if he if he went to went to collegees. I graduated from M John Jay as well, So I want to be an FBI and I was trying to you know, you know what I'm saying. It was he was an other side of defense here. Um, So that's probably like the major differences. Also, we both a family oris he loves his family and I love my family. Left to bear on my family, So we

got some out of similarities. But you know, his his evils crey. So what kind of research did you have to do to like become the character? You know, like what did it take. I looked up did a lot of YouTube videos, checked out Colombians, Colombians Cartaler checked up YbI, who was one of the biggest African American crowding families in Detroit. So those are the basis that I had at first. There's a lot of videos just on Detroit itself. I haven't watched the Bad Boys video basketball Bad Boys

Isaiah Thomas and the Boys. And then I got information about him right of my second rehearsal, So I got information on Kanaan and what me and my coach Sheet from Chief Studios was working on. That's exactly what he was about. So it connected when I did that and a lot of and I was able to, you know, play this character was listening to Dmax every day is what the American the lyrics the DMX was saying. Kenna was living in his life on the streets. So that

helped a lot. By listening to Dmax every day, just different different songs. That's one of my favorite artists for sure. So you you said you have a degree in criminal justice and you wanted to be an FBI agent, So your dream role would then be not a K nine character, right? Or which one do you prefer? Do you want to

be an FBI agent on TV? Okay playing listen? I could I could play a little up a little uh, let's say similar to ALIONSO on training day, right, right, there's like K nine And so let me ask you this. I have a question, how you go from because when I think of an FBI agent, I think of someone who's like calculated, stoic, maybe even introverted. How you go from when to be that to acting like that? Just seems like too broad, is of the spectrum. Yeah, you know,

I don't. I would. What it was was I never grew up wanting to be an actor. What had happened with me? What gave me the interest was I would hear from people people like, hey, you gotta look, you should get into modeling. That's literally the reason why I got into it. I was shy, even though everybody some people think I'm not, I was really shy, and so I felt that was God angels telling me, hey, this is this might be a purpose, right look into it. That time I was going to school and I was like,

all right, I mean take some pictures. That took pictures at the local mall, looked at the newspaper, the daily news, and they was looking for actors and models, and went to book at first audition. So I was like, okay, maybe this is maybe this is my calling. That's really how it went. And you know, I know the work ethic that I put in, so I know if I was an FBI agent, the crimes I would the crimes.

I would want to solve his capital punishment crimes. Right, so homicides and rapings, that would be my expertise that I will be looking into into a case and I know man, you know people would come after you in that type of business like you don't want them. You don't want them, right like Liam, that was one of the things that was, Yeah, you gotta worry about your family and stuff like that. So I think as an actor,

I can get into these worlds. Growing up, also wanted to probably yeah nfl able to play this as do that as an actor, I think about Liam's him's worth and taking like there's the nigga you would be like the nigga version of that, right, I have a set of skills, will find and bea meth was based on

the streets of Detroit. So what are some of the things like you took away from, you know, growing up in Brooklyn and comparison to Detroit, because I mean it's both for us, right, Um, Yeah, you know growing up I grew up in Flatbush from Rons Road. You've seen the streets, you know how it is. I've I've been the ere I grew up in is where you can't even go to the corner or around the block you can rob. So I'm from those times. Can I he will rob you like he kna the type of dude.

He'll give you money and then rob you right after, like you know, that's that's the griming there. So I've been around that life from Brooklyn, m being around certain situations, some of them what Cana was was in. Uh so those situations you've seen you kind of remember. You call that whenever you're playing a role, you kind of call that sense memory, which going back to what you have seen, butcher of experience, and you can use that most of

the time. The method of acting that I use, the method acting is being in the moment, right so whatever's going on right here and now I'm really here and taking everything in and portraying what's going on right now, but you is a little sentimentary and developing a research So from boling in Brooklyn and being around different you know, seeing games drop right, I'm for in times, so bloods of cript out here, throughing craziness, uh, craziness you see

going on the train. So all this stuff you remember, and you're able to bring this to the character. Any little bit that you can take from growing up, you're able to bring it to you say, you do method acting, And I was taking acting classes, right and we had to do a scene that was like really sad, right and when I was done, I could not unsad myself. Like I was sad for like two days. So how do you like this came out an evil ass niggas? So did you walk around evil all day? Because you're

playing this character? So so this is this is why I tell people that's important. So what the what? I think? What it was? So you would be a sad? What did you take it from? Yeah, like I just channeled some hurt that I already had and then I couldn't let it go right, And that's what the course that memory,

And that's why I tell people that. To me, I don't want to do that because you could be in that space and you probably won't be able to get out that space for some time because you're taking trauma from you know, back in the day. That's what I tell people. That's really lets you gotta be careful you know, doing since memory um with me and with with kanaan Um, I was able to actually once the camera start getting the character. When the cameras off, people are like, yo, bro,

how are you able to do that? But yo, but yeah, it's times though offset I did actually kind of it was canaan outside. Sometimes I got into you know, sometimes I got into it. It was a security guard. You kind of see Kana come out at a moment outside of a club one day, I'm talking as if I'm came out, I'm like, yo, where the connect where the guns at? So sometimes it would come out here and there. But for the most part, yeah, once I'm done, once

they says kind of I'm out the character. So I'll tell you, for example, with Lamar, right, so if I see Lamar, you see Lamar and said, Lamar's that dude all the time. You can tell he's in that space throughout the whole time. And some people that's the way they stay in character. Because if you remember when Will Smith was talking about the other day his movie and Emancipation, then Foss did that. But Foss was a character from day one, and then once he was done, he came

sort of said hi, my name is Ben. Literally that that's just how some actors are to Some actors would be in that space for the whole duration of filming, and some actors like myself, like on Smith said the same thing outside the screen bom showing that today just get possessed quite a real character. Interesting, Yeah, like I would think he'th Leger was Mary like I heard heard letter when he played the joke he with some of people said people with dead rat, dead mouse or rats

like crazy. Yeah, but yeah some people seeing character like yeah, because it's almost like you psyche yourself out to actually become that person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think when Denzelton trained that, I think he, from what I understanding, was like in the backup a cop car driving around for a month, just kind of seeing how they patrol and do stuff like that. So a lot of us doing

research like that. But yeah, if you driving those characters any used sense and every Also, yeah, if I ever jump back out there, I only want to do funny ship from here. Yeah, like I'm trying to take it take one on one. That's like one of the most fun classes you could ever do is doing him prodcast. So tam called K nine evil. I saw a post on your page. It was it's basically like the like a moral alignment test, and it had K nine as

like a neutral evil. Mine was chaot it good, meaning I fucked some shit up if need beat for the green good awesome Robert Hood type shit. I thought that was interesting because I don't know if he's evil, I don't think that, Okay. So the scene where he shot the coach from the other team that was fucked up, does he just do that type of stuff. I don't know if that was his real character or not. It was that like just for them for the movie. It

was it was like that life. I tell you a story, like when I when I met one of the um one of the ogs who rocked with Big Beach and him back then, he found out that I was playing a role. The way he looked at me's like I was scared of at you, Like literally, that's how you know his real name is Larrence the wall They said he was like a hood legend, like like his real name was dog. Larrence to Wallace, is you know his

real name and it's treat him dog. But yeah, when he was there, they were telling me the story about the basketball team. Right, So basketball team. He's like, Yo, how many birds? You got two early birds up? Five? Any one of your motherfuckers don't bring my money on time. I'm killing on five your motherfuckers. That's literally what he said. So when I say that line in the first episode, that's real. So one of the connections how I knew I was in sick when the og told me this.

We was about two three months into filming. So day one, now, right, I walk into the gym, same James, the sledge that they recreated, and I see the five dudes on the other team and I walk up to them. I don't even introduce myself. I said, any one of your five motherfuckers, anyone fi motherfuckers? The slash shot I'm came on five young niggas, and I walked off to get miked. That's literally how I knew I was in saying when the home he told me how I saw it was a rat.

From day one, I was that dude, you know what I'm sounds really good? Back, Like, yo, is this dude? Like No, I didn't say, I didn't apologize. I didn't say nothing to them after I was filming. That's literally how I felt at the time. And one she told me, I was like, Yo, that's crazy. I was in singing with this dude from day one. Now watching the show, I can tell like the characters are seemed very more

authentic season two. This season one, it seems like you're on a jel and whale, Like, how did you build your chemistry with me and me and me the little week was able to hang out before we started filming. I went by his house and he was there for four hours, mostly talking about personal stuff and then we got into the work. Um, but we faced time each other. So yeah, we was able to make that that um,

that chemistry from early. Uh. And then with the other cast members seeing them on set and you know, all of them are you know, kind of like cheering me on because I'm the new you know, the new plug. They like, they liked my character as well, so they was able to see what I was doing and they were they were definitely like cheering me on the whole time.

Even one of my biggest supporters on the show was Miles trut So Miles would be like, yo, man, I just love watching work, Like when he saw me on that basketball court I technically was supposed to have in the line, but he just saw my demeanor once they got to his bras watching everything that you do. And

I like the fact that that he did that. Like a certain time of doing scenes, he would just sit down to him and use of and they will watch what I'm doing so he could learn And I was like, oh, that's That's pretty cool because I've been the game for a little, you know, for a minute. Not too many people probably know this until you see me now, then you go back to all you can pasing that. But I've been the game for some for a minute, you know,

and that's some some solid training. So fortunate enough I'm able to portray that on BMI. Do you ever worry about like being type castle? Well, isn't that. Since I've been playing Came nine, a lot of people have been sending me those similar type of roles me as an artist, I'm a real artist that wants to challenge myself and do all different types of roles. So it's fun to play the bad guy, but I don't want to always

have to play the bad guy here and here. Of course it will be great and depending what the role is, but being that that just did can, I don't want my next role to be me playing another type type similar even though it's fun to play, don't get me wrong. Like one of your auditions I had recently was passed, and I was excited about that, and my sister and some of my friends are excited about this, so that would be something different to play. I would look forward.

If I do book the role, I'll look forward to playing something like that, just to challenge myself like you, like you mentioned underground right playing abolitions, you know, um that those are just different type of role playing a cop. They expand my creative tools. So I get a lot right now offers to play some of the laws came

out right now. I don't right yeah, because Edrew's album right now is in the headlines because he said he no longer wants to be referred to as a black actor, and some people, some people agree with him, like land Squirrels you know, came to defense as well. Um, but what's the actor? John? He basically was saying, like we should focus on who's creating these type casts, you know what I'm saying, as opposed to trying to adjust for them. Well, when when when I haven't read this story, I've heard

about it recently. I don't. I don't get what people think. What will be considered black actor? You know what I mean? You know, um, an African American actor. You know, I don't know American. I don't know. I don't know how you want me. Maybe he doesn't want to be considered just doing what black roles black movies or something like that. I guess if you think about other professions like doctor lawyer,

no one says black doctor. No one says, well, I don't know when I when I go to look for my doctor, I do want to go for a black Yeah, but like in public, no one calls them a black doctor or a black blower or black pharmacists. Do you know what I'm saying? But so this is a profession in acting, so why is it a black But where the conversation we're in the conversation as well, would it be, hey,

black actor. I don't see where that would be for interest, right if somebody's saying I'm looking for actor, like he's even being considered for Double O seven. Right he did that though, right? Didn't he do James Bond? He hasn't. You will be dope to do it. But I don't see the conversation where the conversation would be, hey, um, he's a black actor, like when they're talking about a role, Hey it yourself as a black actor, we want him. I don't see where that conversation would come to. I

don't know. I would probably have to research that and see what, you know, what the question was asked about, and then he responded like that, yeah, I don't see where it will be, like, hey, you know, I don't want to be consider a black actor. I don't. I don't get it. Oh he doesn't want to refer to himself anymore? Wow? I mean, yeah, nigga, I can't. Normally, when we see roles that come in, it will say, um, you know black like this, they would didn't want this

role to be black? Or after you know, so I know you know that's my guy, that's my guy. I would I would have loved to play his brother on the Wired. Oh yeah, if you could have anybody played you in a movie, who would you pick to play you? Why? I never got asked that question. Somebody played me? That's interesting. I don't know too many young actors. That's gonna be a problem. Um, all right, if I had to pick somebody, he's older, Um, I would I would pick Derek Luke.

Oh yeah, I think Derek Luke met him have some similarities. I think Derek sure, because when I was watching him and um the other day answer ficials like oh oh yeah, I was just saying we missed him, Like where is Derek Luke? Where he's doing a film. UM, well show one of my friends. It's called it's a Disney project show. It's coming. I don't remember it right now, but it's like a basketball um show. But that's what that's what

he has now. But I know he was doing a couple of theater projects as well, because I did ask, Yo, where's this dude? And sometimes we don't see us. We're probably doing some type of theater Broadway or something like that. Um that so that's what he was doing. He was doing thing I like him. Somebody trying to play with me. I'm still I'm still strong. That's one of my favorite think you might have to play me. You would be number fun like you gotta get to play. So let

me ask you this theater or a film film? Which one do you? I think I love theater. Um you get to insta gratification from you audience right then and there. But film is more money. And the thing about is you get to see this yes or now? So when I had kids, I'll be able to show my kids. Listen, your post is going in a little bit back then, you know. Um. So that's that's that's what it is

with with theater is fun insta gratification. Like I said, sometimes they take it, but sometimes you don't get your tape. You ain't gonna know what you did, you know, right, but yeah, film for sure always. So what's that one role that you practice for, you auditioned for, you thought you did, you know, you thought this was your fucking rang and then it was given to somebody else. It's another way. Um, I ain't gonna take you the network. But it wasn't network that I did really kill his role.

I think I was even I even auditioned for it. I forgot, I forgot where I was, I'm my night and then on location, but it did really good. I got the role right, and what ended up happening is an hour later they said they made a mistake, so I got the role taken from me. I didn't beef about us disappoint I wasn't mad. And then I was like, you know, to the network, Yeah, that's the type of stuff that they do. But now I'm sure that they see you in B and math like, man, we made

a mistake opportunity, but I did. I did kill the audition, but I guess they wanted somebody else because of because of the other person's popularity. I don't I don't respect that, you know, and I get it right, people feel that somebody has two hundred thousand followers. You know, they're gonna be They're gonna sell the show whatever it is, or sell the movie. Right, they're gonna bring fans to it.

But sometimes you gotta just look at talent. And that's why I respect fifty cent because you know, um, you look at all the people like Amarty Harder was dope before Ghost. Nobody knew, you know, nobody really knew of his talent like that. And then once he got on Power Boom Scott Roddy, but he was dope before that. Like I put GridION Gang, I was like, oh, what's

this dude? You know, Um, I thought he was fine because I like, you guys go to Sakara Tommy right now, he's taking off Michael Randy Juniors taking off, so set uh. He doesn't look for these names for some of these roles. And just like Tyler perryes while the same thing, Tyler Perry has been able to give us actors some of these role and then you know, we get out there, we we we we what we what did you call um?

As household names, so they thinking hussehole names. Were you in you or you in the bar, the beauty salon and in the baller shop? You are here? Hey, who who you're thinking won't mean came out of them? Who's getting more gangster? You get those kind of talks. So that's cooler to listen to stuff like that. Now, did you see like that movie that you uh you auditioned for and they told you had the role? Did you go back and watch the movie And he was like, man,

oh yeah, oh yeah, I watched y'all. I was like, I want to know if I come see you did okay, okay, but I just I don't know you guys. So the work got didn't being bad that I would have, you know, I did my thing. I did. I believe you when I played Bad Guys, Like one of the roles that people saw that they like what I played was on him. When I played Um played Jamal, he was you know, he was a drug dealer as well. So my friends

saw us. Man, I love watching played Bad Guys, So it was anticipating watching me play Canine and it was ready to see me do this role as well. Go ahead to him, No, I was about to say when they sent over your information, I was like, I'm kind of scared. I don't know. Girl. The other day, I was in Atlanta. I was having I was having much for my friends and this girl Keymunt. She said, man, like you, you'd be giving me nightmare. It's like it'd be crazy. Yeah, one of my she can try to

give you something night sweats. My boy my voice sent me a text. This girl texted and she was like, man, he give me ships all over my body. It's crazy. Like, yeah, dude, there's more. There was just one more question about the show, because then I'm trying to get in your personal how's it like? W fifties cool man? He came on set um and I met him twice in the day. I met him in the gym, so I'm walking in the gym. I got my drinking down the water day walking and

he sees he sa go drink all of that. I said, come on, that is you know. I do this all day every day. And then somebody yelled out, hey, we're talking about the bed. I went to bed five am the other night. And then figures like, look if y'all go downstairs and y'all and y'all spend your money at the continue y'all lose money, shouted to start, so everybody start laughing, and you know, we just started working out

and still talking, talking trash and um. The next time I met him was the same day when I'm doing the scene outside the outside the uh the gym, but she to do it in the head, so he takes off his head. So he walked towards me. He said, so we shoot motherfucker's in the broad daylight. Now. I said, bro, this what we do. And then after that we spoke like a good twenty and thirty minutes and I'm telling you gotta give your flowers just like we give various

flowers for giving us the opportunity. Um. Yea. He definitely got a genre. This is his genre. This is his genre. This type of ship, like all of this stuff is like belly, like these TV shows like all the classic black move black yeah, hush yeah. And bringing out he said at the time, it was like you got twenty five projects in production, so he working, he bringing lights projects out. Yeah, he ain't getting money green light game. You got any more questions about being mess No, He's

no true. Wasn't like juggling a relationship in work. That that that's a yeah, that's since you're doing since you're doing here, since you're don't you're pivoting. We're talking about the president that we're talking about the past. See get you right there, we're talking the president in the past. President. So you're trying to get me right there. I see you.

But I'm gonna answer. I'm gonna ask for it. Um. I think it's tough because sometimes, you know, if you outside with the person that you're dating, and you add these bookings and stuff like that, and then you have different females coming up to you, they're trying to highlight you, and yeah, it give me difficult for the person that you would because they're seeing that, you know, different females coming up to you, people trying to trying to um,

trying to talk to you. I think they've had one or while this is a while back though, somebody wanted me to write an autograph on their on their breast literally, so things like that. You know, it's kind of like your girls right there. Not she wasn't at the time, but just saying if she was like stuff like that. Um, but yeah, you know, I think It's tough, you know, because then you had to be different places. Right, I

was in Atlanta for the weekend hosting. I've been in New York busy all all day every day, and then I'm going to la um So, Yeah, it's tough because you don't you're not able to spend as much time. If you're doing a project, you're filming sixteen dollars a day, so you definitely can't, you know, spend the time that

you want to spend. And sometimes you really want to be in these characters, like it was a it was a show that a movie I was doing, and I think I was different eighteen days and I was like these eight days and going in like I'm gonna be really focused in. Those are the times where you can't spend as much time, and it's difficult because you have those conversations, you have those arguments. You know, I came on one time, I was four yet and then my girl's like, yo, he was drinking that you mean I

was on set? Like, you have those uncomfortable kind of conversations at the time. Um So, it it's definitely very hard. Some balance a relicial and then you get all different types of bring women right that people DM you people see you. Um, you know I'm at the club last night. You know, different ladies coming out to me. You want to take pictures. So it's yeah, it's it's uh, it's definitely, definitely differ I think I'm letting my nigga sign titties.

I'm not getting mad about that. Learn how to ride on a piece of paper. I ain't here. Did you sign the titty? I might have, but it was with a pen though, down on market it was with a pen, so I might have. So you had to write real slows to the ink and come out in cursing long curson. Yeah, definitely. Are you in a relationship right now? I am? I am nice. Okay, hey girl, how do you feel about marriage? I've always grew up wanting to get married eventually. You know,

I grew up with both my parents. Um, so I was all fortunate to see, you know, the good and the bad with marriage. But yeah, I've always thought about, of course, at one point you getting married. Sure, yeah, okay, girls, he got the market, so stay at his DM talking about y'all. They just try and test to see how strong the relationship is, and they get pictures in my DMO. Really girls did in news crazy but it's no real

easy way to say this. But alright, So we have a segment called simp series and dumb story on a show where we asked our guests to share a time where they got played by the opposite six. Do you have a story there you can share with us they got played? Um yo, I mean, I've been trying to think about this wall, but for a minute, I don't I literally honestly don't remember the last time I've got uh got played. Um. It don't have to be super played. It could be like a little bit, you know, um

what I've asked the girl for a number. She said, no, I'm sure that happened. I don't remember it recently, but I'm sure that that better not be recent. Wall back wall back on you know when I was outside, I don't remember, I'm sure if at times, so you know, I'm trying to talk to a girl and no, I'm good looking at Maybe she had a guy though, that don't count. It's getting played because she might just be

spoken for already. Ye yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true. Um, I swear this question is so like when we get a woman on that Black girl I got a million times began. I don't see how women getting played. I can see a guy getting played, but a woman gett played. No, we be getting played too. Nah, we be getting played. I guess more than y'all because y'all can't even think of a story half the time. I know I'm a

story like man. And hold on, all right, she there's another thing though, we talked, all right, if we talked about being played, like if let's talk, ain't that thing xAPP But I'm trying to talk to short you and now or something like y'all think you ugly? Something like each about vale YouTube about like you're a relationship and the other the other person played like yeah you got cheated on? She took your money and send it to Nigga in prison? Um or you I was talking Short,

do you call her? She said she was sleep but did you see her out at the clip? Yeah? Okay, so okay, that's that's going. So I definitely I haven't had that except where I had my girlfriend did She did tell me one time that she did sleep with her ass, but I didn't see it. So I'm not the type of person I'm not. I'm not looking at your phone. I'm not I'm not doing that. We might as well not be together because if I feel that you're cheating the while am I with you? You know?

So if you cheat, then right, I'm an eighty still being a relationship with you because I already knew what time it was and I already use them. So wait, she told you she got together? Yeah, yeah, what practiced the Yeah see this was a while a though, because I haven't been a person that was in a lot of relationships. So um, at the time she told me, I don't I don't know how we even got it got into talking about it, but yeah, she told me she had plenty one but I ain't got so damn

that was crazy because women, we typically don't tell. Yeah, I gotta take it to the grade period. Yeah, yeah, I have no idea. Lie women lie. Okay, don't never tell these niggas the truth. And I don't care who you did. I that we might have still been talking. I think I really liked her. Um, she and man, so you know you didn't you know, you gotta look at it as if you did your thing, she did her thing. Okay, Oh, so it was it was payback me. You know what I'm saying, she told you that. I

believe it was pay back. Yeah, I believe it was where she knew I was doing my dirt, did her dirt as a paidback. And sometimes y'all regret it, right, y'all regret it if I don't know if you haven't cheat. But I'm just saying I gotta regret it, right, No, I don't regret. Never ever cheated. I'm never cheated. Okay, Okay, I like that like them there, you know that what is cheating exactly? What exactly is cheating? I'm never cheated. Yeah. So what about what about kissing? Kissing um outside of

your your significant artor Yeah, that's cheating. That's way more intimate than having sex as far as I'm concerned. Are you kissing somebody else in the mouth? That's true, It's more intimate than the actual act of intercourse. To me, why are you kissing? Why are you kissing this lady in the mouth? Yo? Yeah? Kissing kissing me? I agree? Kissing be different like you love her? Yeah, you know back in my day? Yeah, yeah, if I would, you know, if I would have stepped out, I'm not kissing me? No,

if we're not kissing, just going in. That's it. We wasn't. We wasn't kissing because let me get confused, when you kissing them in the mouth, kissing, it feels a little bit like, you know, a little bit more I was doing. See I just if you're not kissing me, we're not fucking like what is going on? And you shouldn't have sex with a man who won't kiss you in the mouth. Ye, you go straight to the point like we know what

time it is right now outside? If you're not, if you're not kissing the limps on my face, you kissing somebodyse donna kiss a little for show. You're gonna kiss a little before you go. I'm doing with some like this. I'm believing here with some live with a bump bump, probably kissing. You're kissing something, my boy. Oh goodness, tell everybody like what's coming next for you? Where they can find you all the good stuff, like plug everything all

right so you can you can well. I got this new movie coming out after BMF called First Comes Love and Then Comes Murder. So I know the ladies this movie. It's a nice thriller. Um that's gonna be for TV one that should be after BMF UM. Then I got a couple of stuff in the works, still negotiating a couple of these products, which I should be some really dope stuff with some people I worked with before, work with somebody else that's from power. So we got some

stuff in the works for that. Um. You can reach me at my Instagram, my Twitter, and I'm still working on ticktime. So working r A y A n l A w r E n c E and I do still answer my dm bodicies. There's too many teams now, so I got to scroll through. It was business. I go to those first and then this personal stuff. But people ask me out, how do you get the game? How do you get started to s? I do answer those as well, but now it takes me long and

the answer those because I gotta answer the priorities first. Now, now you got Instagram, we gotta this is right, this is general. This stays on request. I'm not you, I'm not even and then he's going my sprank bank for later business spank bank, business bank. Yo, thank you so much for joining us. Yes, we appreciate you. I appreciate y'all. Definitely a lot of fun right right on A Thursday morning, right on a bright nerly on a Thursday. All right,

y'all listen. So if you enjoyed this episode, please tune in every Thursday on your our heart radio Apple Ever to fucking get your podcasts at this your co host AJ Holiday two point oh. Y'all can follow me on the grams. It's me official tambam I love y'all. Thank y'all so much for tuning in. Remember to speak now and never hold your peace.

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