Talk. We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who talked back. What's up y'all? Welcome to a new episode that we talked back at your dedicated to you niguas and these homes okay and everybody else in between. Its your co host aj Holiday. What's up to him? Hey boo, Hey y'all. Happy New Year's me tread my throat? Yeah, fun I did. I went to the basketball game last night. I was screaming. Lebron was out there whooping my ass. Shame.
I was like, stop Lebron, stop that nigger. I've never seen Lebron. No, I have seen Lebron play. I can't remember when, but I have seen him. Might have been in Charlotte a while ago. Everybody was at the game last night. It was seen. Who are you seen? I seen? The baby? Was this courtside? I was? I went in courseide yall. I couldn't afford them tickets last night. I was in the suite. I didn't really that's the only
person I saw that with celebrity. I wasn't paying much attention, honestly, but it was packed and the nosebleed seats was a hundred ten dollars right up on the against the wall. Shame that I am. Luckily, you don't gotta paid for no tickets, you know, right exactly, I ain't paid for a game ticket yet. Um. I just God came over me this morning, and I have a message for everybody listening. He wanted me. I don't know who needed to hear this,
But clean your makeup brushes, ladies. Some of y'all ain't clean. Y'all makeup brushes sists before the pandemic. Go get your makeup brushes and clean them this week in the name of Jesus. Okay, Amen, ain't wonder why they got acne. You ain't changing the pillow cases. You ain't changing pillows. You know, pillers be heavy. It's had with all them skin cells in there. Throw them damn pillars out for the new year. And washing brushes, yes, janging mattress cuff.
But just do all the things. We're doing all the things. Okay. So I was your weekend. Aside from that crazy I've been manifesting it, I was like, I haven't been to no games this season. This week I went to literally three weeks since seven three games in seven days. So on New Year's Eve, I went to another game. I can't even remember who we played. Went to the game and everybody was hanging out after the game. But I
came home. I came home and I, um, so, they do the Charlotte celebration, like right on the side of my building, so where the Queen the Queen crown goes in the sky at midnight, it's literally right. I can see it from outside my patio. So I just went on my patio and watched the festivities and listen to the music. And baby, they did the fireworks show. Bitch, I thought that ship was coming in my house. It was so intense. I was out there screaming on from the time I had to run in the house. I
was scared. But it was a good time and I just brought it in by myself. What about you? Um oh, hold on, I want to say, did you know that Charlotte is named after a black woman queen, Queen Charlotte Mecklenburg. Yes, in case you'all ain't know royals in the South. Um So, I had like a little house party. I went to one of my friends. I helped her plan a house party on Friday for her birthday. So that was really nice. A lot of CHERRYO. Yeah, you know, I take my
mic everywhere, so I was fucking entertaining. Bitch. Now I'm feeling under the weather. Excuse me, y'all. This bitch really karaoke mic just randomly with her kind U bitch, big wheels, keep on turning, proud Mary. Whatever, whatever, I feel like, I'm gonna do it. I'm an entertainer, okay. Um. New Year's Eve was Saturday. Um. I hung out with a friend. Okay, we ate oysters and had a ski boards, both phones
for the New Year. Happy New Year, and like my one of my resolutions, I was like, not even a resolution. I was like, you know what, for the first three months, I'm not having sex and then New Year. But I said, okay, that's it, the new Year, no more, no for three months. I'm gonna really try to do it. Okay, that's good. And look that takes us into our our stupid internet news. What are the sins of this sweet so um just the one thing I think that associates with me not
having sex. Hopefully, I'm gonna try real fucking hard. But I saw um to Rogi p Henson. She did an interview with h um Angie Martinez this week and she was saying how she hadn't been happy in a long time. And I was like, you know what, one of my I feel like one of my resolutions for last year, I wanted to be like when somebody asking like, hey girl, Agie, how you doing, I want to be able to say, girl, you know I'm the happiest I've ever been. I've never
been able to do that. So just yesterday I was saying how I wanted to, um, like plan a trip, go someplace for a month by myself, you know what I'm saying. So Taragi p Henson was saying, you know how important mental health is and and being happy and nobody outside of you can make you happy. So she was saying, how, um, she's going to go to Bali for a month by herself. And I'm like, damn, that's confirmation for me. That's what I need to be doing
to get me together. Do you feel like you're not happy? Not like um like ultimate happy? No? And I think that most people fluctuate, you know, but I just want to be like all around happy, good mental health. No, I can't say that that's me throughout the entire year. I don't think nobody is ultimate happy all year long. I think it's possible, though, you know what I'm saying, happy, I think it's possible because you know, like when they'd be like, oh, do to work, like the work has
an end date. You shouldn't always be having to do to work your whole life. Do you see what I'm saying. So at some point that has to be I don't mean completely healed from every yes, like it has to be up sixty five by the time. You don't have to be like that. Though I don't. I feel like I'm happier then I feel like pandemic. I was tormented. I was pandemic. Was tormented me like it wasn't him, It was just my life choices, you know that I was tormented by. But now I feel free. But I
feel good. I just feel like it's some things I want to do top of this year. You know what I'm saying. I think that will really kick it off, to make sure I reach all my um myum my goals this year. That's all little solitude I think I asked somehow got to a place where the opinions of others just stopped mattering at all. To me, that's a good place, which especially in this industry. Yeah, it feels so good, you know that a dookie story. I was in my feelings for like two minutes about it, and
then it was like, I don't care. People got worse, like embarrassing sexual moments than that. The funk I got a few worse ones than that. Ship. All right, what else happened in our stupid internet news? Well, this isn't this really isn't stupid internet news. So yesterday, um, and I actually was watching the football game and it's happened. Um, And then I started started seeing people tweeting like damn that I just watched somebody die on the field. But
he did not pass. But um, right now, the mar Hat Hammling he is in intensive care after having basically a heart attack last night after tackling somebody. Oh yeah, Buffalo Bills in Cincinnati Bengals game, if y'all missed it, Yeah, And you know, it just brings up the conversation because maybe he had a hard condition already and we don't we didn't know about it. But what type of testing are they doing on these young men to make sure that they're healthy enough to play? In this game, and
is this game really a safe game? You think about CTE things like that, and all the concussions and brain damage and things like that that happened with you know, this sport, and it's just it's a sad chain of events. I would not want my son. If I had a son, I would not want him to play football. I would want him to learn how to play baseball. I actually love football. I don't like any other sport like that.
I like football. I like contact sports for the most part, and a lot of the times like that should be these boys lives. A lot of these guys are playing football from little kids get up elementary to the pros, so they their body is definitely going through a lot. You know. I would like to think that they have medical where they have to do some type of um rigorous testing to make sure these players are healthy enough. But we see what happened with Antonio Brown, and Tonio
Brown said he was hurt that game. We saw him while out of his last game. He said he was hurt and forced to play. I believe him because you know the saying they call him like forty million dollar slaves, like y'all. And then in the football in in in NFL. Um. They don't have guaranteed contracts, right, so you out there smashing your body up and your career could be over in a blink of an eye. And I know during COVID they were forcing you know, all these players that
get vaccinated. A lot of them got caught with caught with fake vaccination cars, but majority of them are vaccinated. And one of the things that's being found um with all the different um you know, the fiser the maderna is mirco didis. Mirco didis is like a hard condition and it's it's been affecting men, specifically teenage men up to like forties in the early forties. And that's one of the these leading causes of cardiac arrest. So that's
something they need to dive into too. Another football player died today at home. A former football player thirty eight years old dropped dead from a heart attack at home in his bedroom today. They so people are people are dropping dead. We're not living as long as we think right now today y'all, this is recorded on Tuesday, so by the time of year, it won't be today anymore.
But uh yeah, that's and that's why I would I don't want I wouldn't want my son to play football, as much as I do enjoy the sport, because I do enjoy its intense and it's, you know, a good time to see. It's just very scary. And you know, I hope that this young man makes a full recovery. And I'm sure he's not gonna play football anymore after that. But as long as he got his life, you know, so y'all lift him up in prayer. Let's all lift him up. You know, the voice of many to the Lord,
he hears us. So, y'all pray for my boy. I guess you know. Questioning skip Bayliss's tweet from last night because he says, no doubt the NFL is considering postponing the rest of this game. It took him an hour to postpone the game, y'all. So, and he says, this late in the season, a game of this magnitude is crucial to the regular season outcome, which suddenly seems so so irrelevant. It is irrelevant. It's very fucking irrelevant. Yeah,
so he can your word, you're right. He came back and said that people misinterpreted his tweet, but that's the problem with text. Okay, you leave it to your reader to interpret your demeanor in context if they can't hear you, so stop sucking tweeting. If you ain't got nothing like straight, clear dry to say, don't say it. It's hard with because I know I didn't felt out with bitches and niggas about a text that I meant something totally different than we see, you know, right, so I can get that.
You know, I call if I feel like you misinterpreted some sh I'm saying, I'm going to call. Yeah, yep, you don't call me before because we me and you don't went back and forth in some text messages. And yeah, cause your ass is passive aggressive, let's be clear, very mention I'm not. I'm very direct. Okay, let's talk so you can hear, so you can hear high really mean, Okay, y'all.
Tammy asks me real nasty, nice nasty Okay, her assay real me and ship nicely texted or verbally, and I'd be yelling at the talk of my mother, sucking lungs. Me and y'all we'll be on here laughing. But me and this bitch going at it sometimes, we'd really be going at it sometimes I love you nothing less arguing with other bit period but listen, um sadly and this one uh me and Gangster Booth follow each other on Twitter. She passed away over the weekend on New Year's Day,
wasn't it? On New Year's Day? She passed away? And they're saying it's another fan and all death or another overdose. I would say overdose, but we know, like right now, that's the real epidemic. That's the real pandemic right now. We just said what we I just said I wanted to leave that ship in two but I knew it was gonna come with us here that I hate that ship.
I really hate that ship. And here we are. So you know, I just saw an article came out on on site said that, um, she was just booted off of marriage boot camp because they apparently found a little small baggy in her and her husband's or her significant others um bedroom just you know, just recently and so now here it is she's had a drug overdose. Um. They also said her brother was in the hospital of the day before she passed from a drug over dose.
They probably you know, using the same drugs from the same source. And this ship is not fucking safe. But like you're literally playing Russian Roulette right now. If you can't kick the coke right, you don't know when your time gonna be up. But here's the thing. That's the thing about drugs. You know it is addictive. It is addictive. So you know that there is a chance that I might have a bad badge, but you still change it because you're addicted to this substance and that and that's
the scary part about it. I've seen this article, um I followed like a lot of financial Instagram pages so on. This is a business week. They have an article that says the Golden Age of cocaine is happening right now. They're saying there's more poppy fields and never there's more acreage of cocaine growing, It's being shipped more places in the world. What the fuck are calling at the golden age?
I don't know. It says we're living in the golden age of cocaine, said Toby muse To, author of the book Kilo Inside the Deadliest Cocaine Cartels, who has been reporting on the Colombian drug trade for more than two decades. Cocaine is reaching corners of the planet that I've never seen it before because there is so much of the drug.
So we all watched Ozark. I know you watched that on Netflix, and you remember, like during that old season where they were cutting the cocaine with fitting all like it's showing you and all these people were coming up dead. They're gonna try to find these people. You get a lot of time if they need to find every last one on them, lock them up because they don't ruin cocaine. It's wild, It's really wild. It's really wild. I don't know. That's something I would never try now. Never said now,
were you considering it before? I hate you? I hate you. No, I want to try at some point, maybe when I was younger, like college age, I thought about it, but I just seen the ramifications of addiction like firsthand in my life, so I was always like, I'm cool. Never nothing ever crossed my mind. I said, you know what, one day, I'm gonna do something a little I just like a little bit. I spent a lot of time around white people. No shade to y'all, but y'all be
doing coke aline period and they'd be having fun. I remember one time we were at a club. This is when I was living in Florida and this black guy came up. Two white home girls got them a little baggy. We all went to the bathroom. They was like, try it, Tama, try it. I was like, no, I'm cool, I'm cool. Just do it, gummy, Just do it, gummy, just a little on your gumps. I was like, no, I'm cool. So I didn't take any They did their thing immediately
w w in the bathroom. They're wrestling all over. I mean, it's so much. It was funny as fun though, like they just started but they're actually fighting. No, it's just fun. Yeah, and I like the wrestle. So I was like, I want to try it. But I was like, nah, I'm cool. I'm glad I don't have a m I'm glad I don't have an addictive personality. Now. I am addicted to fucking food fresh bait goods specifically, and people. But but food kill more people than cocaine. Just know that I
eat good food. You know how pickure I am about food. So I'm beating good now. But that's that's my damn problem, food and people. Because I let your ass linger a little too fucking long. Yeah, um, child like Keith Stanfield. So he apparently has a newborn baby and also a new engagement, and the child's mother took to social media to say, you know, uh, she decided to leave being
someone's secret family in two meet Apolo Steinfield. M hm, yep, congratulations with Keith on your new families like, and he came to reinforce his engagement, said, I love the holidays and spending time with family, some really great moments with loved ones, beautiful time with my fiance and the reinforcement of our bond in the midst of any kind of climate,
and I feel like this more. He goes on and say some more ship but not nothing about yes, like how do you spend the holidays without a newborn right or even acknowledging the newborn in your post about family? That's so hurtful and that's baby's gonna see that when they get old. Yes, I have a problem. I don't. I don't particularly care for like Keith Stanfield. He used to be on Clubhouse a lot, and you get to really see people personalities and also how he was coming
from my mother fucking brother Charlomagne before. Yeah, you could kiss my whole ass. Okay, I really don't particularly care for him. I think he's like kind of weird, So you're weird for having a baby for him, but whatever you knew. That's mean. Yeah, that's okay. Uh, congratulations to keep Stanfield and his family and engage his families his families. I wish him best of luck and congratulations to the mother of a new child with a blessing to have a baby. That's all I'm gonna say about that. I
guess okay. So, y'all spoiler alert. If you hadn't seen the Best Man series that just came out, you might as well go watch it and then come back and listen to this episode because we're about to get into it, all the way into it. I finally got a j to sit down and watch some television, you know, So I got her to watch it, and we're gonna discuss all the situations in that show. So come back, y'all, we'll be right back. We're bad guys, and now we're gonna get into it. So we're just going to discuss
each character with their counterpart. And I just want to hear a J views because she's crazy, all right. There's a lot of social issues they I feel like TV now, and even with comedy, they're cramming all social issues into. So this was eight eight episodes, but I've seen them cramming into fifteen I mean our fifteen minute comedy shows, like can we just get I don't need reality TV all the time? Yeah, me neither. I don't need reality little reality TV anytime? Right, I don't. I don't like
it no more? All right, So Shelby in Quintin mm hmm. So no, Shelby came back and got her man. Don't play with her. I was here for all of that. If that's the nigga that you love, you're supposed to fight for that ship funk that bit Siamara, Seeamarra, that wasn't even real. That was fake, and she'sa all right through it. So she went there to get her man and did well, I guess because she felt like he wasn't being himself with this person, right, like that's my man.
But she realized she had two marriages, right that he had to sit through and watch publicly, you know, and you come crap when this man finally finds somebody he wants to be with, you come crash his wedding. Essentially, you fuck him m hm. And he had such an understanding fiance that would be me like, oh yeah, what everyone's will all right, cool, don't get mad what I
do it though? You went so if your husband, your fiance fucked his ex girlfriend the night before our wedding at your wedding resort, obviously I'm sensationalizing some things, right, So of course not like bitch, why are you even here? Yeah? I really just in life in general, Like, if that's somebody you feel like you need to be okay, mm hmm, maybe we can have a dicession about it. M m. That's all I'm saying to tell you something. I'm here
for Shelby doing what she did. But if I was a hole, if I would see Amara Shelby wasn't a hole, She'll be head a whole kid and married two other niggas from this man. Now, that was wild that she hit the kid. That part was kind of left field, like they could have just left it at somebody else. Baby. I don't know why the writing because they didn't have
a whole storyline on that. It should have been like a huge conversation about that therapy and all kind of ship you're calling that got that baby calling him uncle daddy. That's that's wild to me. And she had to pretend like he was having a heart at act for her to call him daddy. He didn't. He wasn't pretended, Yeah he was. Yeah, he thought he was having a heart
attack anyway. Yeah, another one. Yeah. But what I was gonna say is that part was fake with Shelby marrying him there, because Shelby, if she made it down at all, she would have made it down with a black eye busted lip because we would have beat me and my sisters would have beat the dog shit out of Shelby before she made it down, right, yes, rightfully. So like I don't respect that, and I don't feel like that
would actually happen in real life. It's not real. Yeah, I don't respect that up but just for the sake of the show and the review of the show since I did watch it, I don't respect that. She should have never showed her ass up there. He should have never been marrying somebody all while you know in your heart is someplace else. I respected, because go after what
you want, bitch. If that's what you would, you had to go for it, if ye, But you don't want him to tell he got somebody else that's him selfish, it is. I understand why you were late with that. But anyway we can move on to what that means. The shade at all, mother's shade. I believe in going after what you want. That's a period point like period okay, even if it's somebody else. Husband, No, I don't do that. They were marrying on this playing. I'm just playing. They
wasn't married yet. Oh they definitely weren't. But yes, you were like okay, so what's the what's the cut off? Right? So no, I always say like, I don't fun with somebody boyfriend, but I don't with nobody husband, not saying that I've never been in those type of situations because I have right. But you know, play your fucking part, bitch, But what's the cut off? Like when you're in a relationship,
you get engaged, like that's damn, they're married. You know, you can't say, oh, you ain't married until the ring go on and y'all make vows before God in the law. Well obviously that's what um what Quentin thought, because he while he was he was like, I I ain't married that she came there and she left. She was in the airport. The nigga followed her to the airport. She was gonna let them have their happy nup shals. And she said, a bitch, if you hurt him, it ain't
way in hell. I ain't gonna beat your ass, and then left, so Queinn came to get her. So let's be honest about what happened. Then c Mr burnt that ship down before she left, bitch waving the stage, and there got the funk about it there. C Mr didn't really love him, She just loved her. You think that's what it was. I don't feel like she really loved him like that. I don't know. One. She left too easy. She burned some ship down before she left. Though they skipped,
that's still too easy. This is because that's the writing. We don't know what What would you have done? If I told you? Shelby would have been black and blue limping her ass down the aisle. Honestly, I had to wear her ass out right. Thank god, it's a movie, right in, not real life. Alright, alright, let's talk about Merchant and Candice. I they were my like, um I
would say favorite couple. M hm, No, yeah, they were my favorite couple, and I felt him because we had a guest on recently and he pretty much told us that his um his therapists essentially was trying to tell him, hey, you're a simple so that kind of it would be like Merchant's character, like he's the simple like everybody think he is simp anyway, but he's a real man, right, And a part of him was thinking he was as sim as well. You know, he's feeling like I've been
a bitch ass nigga far too long. They betrayed me, like this bitch ass nigga in the movie My Best Friends. They don't respect me as the man that I am. This white lady trying to play with me like my little girls, one of my little girls, like Daddy didn't do ship he you know, like coming in the house acting like I can't hear her talking about me and his wife is so understanding that. One thing I did
not like about this couple is Candice is hair. I felt like Tyler Perry was producing a little bit so yeah that week that week, because she's a beautiful woman, that way do her any justice? Yeah, I agree, but that was small in comparison to the character, right, the character was a good woman. You know, she was far. I think they wanted us to say, you think about like how strippers are portrayed, and they made her a super conservative. Yeah, like she danced at one time in
their life. We look at her, use the all the adjectives. She's the educator, black progressive educator of the year. He got that award, and she had a situation with the advisor. And I so as soon as he sat his ass up on that desk with his legs open behind her, already knew what time it was because I didn't see that stands the time or to life from um yeah, men who were in leadership in my life. So I
know exactly how that was about to go. But then, all right, so this is the crazy part for me, y'all, because he grabbed her shoulders and then he slid down to her breast or whatever, and obviously he violated her. She didn't go home to her nigga and tell her man. I didn't understand why she felt like she couldn't say nothing to her man about it, And I didn't see why she was crying either. And then maybe maybe that means that I'm too comfortable with abuse That's what I
was thinking. Am I too comfortable with abuse? Because why am I life? Why she about it, Niga grabbing her TV? I was just told my man, we would have went to ride on him, right. So remember when she finally did tell him in the kitchen after she saw him fighting, how strong her man was. Um, Not that that had anything to do with the two, but she said, you know, I went through this thing time and time and time again. In my mind, there's nothing I could have done any different.
That's what it was. She was blaming herself, and it's like, did I do something to provoke this thing? Like did I do something to send him the wrong cueues or something like that. That's what women go through when you get violated by somebody's like what did I do to invite this? Right? So, when she was explaining to her husband what had happened, and she told him, you know, it's just him. He's a pig. He was gonna do
that no matter what. So that's why she didn't come straight home and tell her husband because I think a part of her, and also from having been a stripper at some point, being um objectified in that way, she might have felt like, did I do something to deserve this, and a lot of women go through that before they actually tell the truth. Girl in front pas shirts in that ugly wig, you didn't do nothing. You didn't do nothing.
I wouldn't have I don't know. I wouldn't have thought that, and I don't think I would have been that upset over it. What I wanted to see next though, I wanted in my mind, I'm like, Okay, now her nigga is doing kickboxing and all that ship. She about to tell him this nigga that violated her. He's about to pull up at that school. I wanted that. Yeah, I wanted that, but it wasn't written in so I thought. I thought Merch was going with heartber ass at one time, like, Oh,
he's gonna be heart grass up. I liked that for Merch. Yeah, me too. I was happy for Merch because we twenty years we've been seeing him be a bit yass nigga. You know, so I can't hold water just doing goofy ship, neurotic and goofy and socially awkward, acting weird about the best man. But they're the best couple. They got the healthiest marriage. Qua Mara Oh witnesses bow to the Union of c Mar. I was like, oh my god, March, you are so lame. Who snacks? Go Let's go go
I Harry, or let's get into it. Uh first, let's just talk about Lance by himself. You know, when we saw him like using sex as a tool to cope, and you know, we had an episode on howen doesn't heal and that just doesn't apply to women. You know, we were speaking about women because we are that, but Lance is just, you know, representation of how holing for anyone does not heal you when you're exactly. I think a lot of men, a lot of men don't associate
like being promiscuous with some type of trauma. Mm hmm. So he was using women as an outlet for what he was actually going through in his life. So he's just going to swimming pool but naked in front of all these was I'm like, wait, is this a nude resort? What the fund is happening on this on the show. He looks good though, Let's just talk about that. So so so mor shots not don't look like y'alla mean, no, no, he just not. I think they look alike. They at
least look like Ken. They look like family members. If you're saying two black men with ball heads. Yes, but look shout out to whoever did his motherfucking lace front for the the back scene when he was in the hospital, but his son having a baby? They did a good hair was nice. Okay, it looked nice on here. You should keep it? Or was that a scene from that time? I don't remember that. Yeah it wasn't. Yeah, that's a nice ass uh little uh fade lace front? He had
a right? Whoever did that? We should have did? Uh Candice Week? Okay, So let's talk about Lance in LJ in their relationship, because that is a huge dynamic within our culture right now, especially with young people and their parents and people our age trying to understand their kids and understanding like having different pronouns and things like that and sexuality and come into terms with that. What what
were your thoughts on it? So again, this is like one of the many social issues they had in uh Best Man final chapters. And I feel like it was necessary because these people exist, right that this is a new thing. The pronouns and all that stuff now that they them, that's the one that confuses me the most. Okay, if it's my child, I would try my best to
do the things, but I don't have any kids. I'm not doing that in my real life for people, like I'll just really, you call people by their names anyway, like just name. I wouldn't have to say they them to them for real unless I'm talking to other people about them. Right, But if you're talking to other people about them, are you going to use the pronouns that they desire? If the person I'm talking to also requires that, because you notice his friend was like, who are you
talking about? That's that's just too much. So if you antagonizing this man and his son is missing. So I just feel like it's just a little I don't know if it was antiged antagonized, And I think it was more about why they why he gone in the first place, Like you're still doing this ship and this is why he's not here. This is why you're searching for him right now. It's because this reason right here. You don't
respect who he is as an individual. But I feel like, so he was a high school student, right, this boy was still in high school. You're raised by a masculine, masculine man, right, he's a single parent, he went through a lot loss his wife. Now he's trying to raise three children by himself. I think as kids we don't give our parents enough grace as kids, and even sometimes as adults, we don't be giving him enough grace. He needed more time to adjust to that too, like that
that was that was his initial response. But if that's not something that you anticipated for your child, and now here it is, smack me in the face. And he didn't have the decency to talk to him about it. He felt like he didn't need to tell us dad about it. But you upstairs in my friend's house with lipstick on, Like I do feel like that that should have been a conversation he had with his dad. Yeah, I think, uh, he was afraid, you know, he was scared. I don't think it was he just like funk man,
he don't need to know my business. I think it was more I'm afraid to tell my father because of all these things that you said, because Mama ain't here, because I don't think he'll accept me because he's so masculine. So I think that was the reason why he kept from his father, not because he didn't respect to him enough to tell him. You know, when I feel but I think he needed a little bit more grace to be okay with it, and maybe it took that traumatic event.
And thank you, regardless of what's going on, thank you about to lose your child. Does this eat this this, does this thing? However your child wants identified, does it even matter right because it's still your child that part, you know. I have one of my closest friends, her daughter see her son has you know, decided that they identify as male, and you know, me knowing him his whole life, I struggle greatly, as you can see right
now just having a conversation with you. I struggle so much saying he and calling him by the name that he's chosen for himself because of I just in my mind, I see him as this person that I've known since they came out of the wound, you know. And I struggle with it so much, and I'm always apologizing because I don't want to offend anybody. I don't want to, you know, make him feel like I'm rude to how he sees himself. But it's hard for me. It's hard for me. Do they visually look like him now? Not
to me? Well, they present themselves as male okay, but just in my in my psyche, it's just very hard, you know. I tried my best, though, and I'll continue to try and eventually I'll get it. So that's what I'm talking about. They have to have more grace with us too. This is new. This is really really new. Like I don't know when it came about, but um, I have a friend. She's a chiropractor, and one of
her patients presents as a woman. When I say presents as a woman, she still looks like a woman, right, She's dressed as like a woman. She's married to a transwoman. Okay, so a trans woman as a man? I was born a man, right, Okay? Okay, So this is a black woman, she's a trans man, and she's married to a trans woman, a white trans woman. So are they gay or no?
That's what I'm getting to, right, So she doesn't physically look like a man, right, I think you need the visuals to go with it also, But she wants to be addressed as him, you know, he. But I have to then trick my mind to accommodate you in that way.
And it's hard, especially if you know sometimes like I have a couple of guys that I might hang out like hang out with in my social circle that are gay guys, and because of their demeanor, it almost automatically like comes out even like girl, ha ha ha, because of how they act. But if you are physically acting like a woman, looking like a woman, but you want to be called him and he, that is very and then how many other people? I gotta do this for life?
It's it's hard, it is difficult, but you know, you want to respect everybody's choices. And that's why when I say I'm thirty two, I just feel like people should just respect that show I'm thirty two years old, and I just feel thirty two inside. I don't feel like older. So why the fund do I gotta be? With my birth certificate says it is I'm thirty two. Bits trying to get me cakes with that other number on it. When I told you that ain't my motherfucking number. Period.
There are allowed to change in sex and stuff like that on and birth certificates. Now, why I can't be younger? Trans? I can't change my age. Yeah, I'm trans age. God damn, I'm starting a new uh, we're starting a new movement. Bit Actually, I'm caring Okay, y'all, we're gonna go to break right quick. We'll be right back, all right. So the final group of people, Harper, you know what, Before we get into Harper and Robbing, let's just talk about
Jordan by herself. Okay. I identified with Jordan's in a lot of ways. I know you would say that. I really you too, Did you feel like that? I think a lot of single black women did with no children identified with Jordan's. Yes, I did. In um when she was like sitting in that boardroom and her brain like she couldn't even see and she just was not prioritizing her health the way she should, and she's just taking on everybody ship and not concerning with her own the
way she should. Baby, that was like, M I need to I need to. Aren't take a lesson from this moment right here, because you know, I have MS and I don't always prioritize it like I should. I know, like I just kind of like treated, I feel like I do this thing in my mind, like I don't feel like I have it, so I don't period. And I think that that has helped me in many many ways because I see so many people struggling with it that in a way that I don't, but I'm gonna would.
God pray I don't start. But I know that I need to like do more when it comes to health, and I gotta like I work a lot, Like I feel like my whole life is like, you know, go go. Every time I wake up, it's like go go go, go go go, you know. Like, so I need to find a way to cut back on that and stop. I mean, I love money, y'all. I love money. I love it. Give me something. If y'all love me, cash at me right now. But I need to like not chase the bag so much. Yeah, because you stress will
literally take you out. M It would literally take you out. And I have seen people who have went blind temporarily from stress. So you definitely got to prioritize your health over everything. If you ain't good, like none of that should gonna matter. You can't take the money with you, You can't take none of this ship with you. Be up out of here on the other side looking like damn, that's my purse, my sister where Yeah, that's what it
would be. Um with with Jordan's um, I identified with like the especially the relationship in particular that she has with Harper. I have a couple of men that I have dated in the past and who have went off, got married, stuff like that, and for whatever reason, and I don't talk to them often, but they'll periodically throughout the year text me. These should have would have could have text messages, and I do not find them flattering at all. I'm not your fucking safe space. Yes, I'm
exact exactly, that's what she said. And I felt that because I feel like I've been that for a couple of guys like y'all have went on built lives with other women. You didn't choose me, and you realize maybe because this this thing that you're in and ain't it ain't what it is, it ain't me m M. And you want to know, nigga, if you ain't choose me the first time, sunk off my phone. But I've had the same phone number for so long. It's like people just be I don't even know, maybe don't even want you.
Maybe I didn't want to know. They still have access access to you. A lot of times people confusing this nigga that I used to deal with. I would like always allow him to come back in my space because we had so much fun together, be like we just got soul ties. I would say that and just let him. But finally during the pandemic, I was like, no more started to funk away from me. Maybe I started getting all kind of I'm this nigga me a d M from a page that I don't because I blocked this
page from mine. The d M said, I'm gonna beat you up on site and I'm gonna shooting'ty nigga as. You ain't gonna bust a grade y'all. But he just mad because he don't have access anymore. Niggas. Really, that's all they want is the access and didn't even really want you. It's just to know they still got access. Right, He ain't gonna buy'all. Don't be worried about that. He just talking shit. Right. What about Jordan's um the motherhood cry she was set in the car was not fresh?
Ohoo foo foo. We have to talk about that because I mean, okay, we don't have any kids, we aren't as young. You know, Tammy's thirty two. Yay, I'm thirty eight, and I mean it's that is like a reality at this point, right. But what science people are having children a lot later. Do I want to have to funk with science to get a baby? That would be probably be like my last like last resort for real. But you can still have a baby. She could still have a baby. But it is like a thing for a
lot of women. And it's not just black women who are having fertility issues. It's like across the board because of our food, the health care system, it's a lot of different you know things going on right now that's affecting people having kids. Like all of our grandparents had a lot of kids. What's happening like now you're down
to like one to three. Let's talk about playing bs in abortion to they didn't have that option because some of y'all, Grandma, y'all wouldn't have been here, can be option. I'm just gonna yo, Grandma CoA gotta play be some of my I don't know if I would have been here right now. It's wallowing, it's playing a Let's be clear.
They probably ain't been down for that. Shouldn't neither. Granny probably like why in my mouth, it's not no get somebody else to do it exactly because grandpa had a family down the street anyway, Huh, See that's what I'm talking about, keeping peace. Keeping peace. Sometimes you'll been you need to outsource your nigga to somebody else, Like I know because I've been thinking, I'm alright, so I have
been singing for a minute. But I used to remember my in my relationship, I used to think, like, damn, I wish my nigga had another bitch, say annoyed right now? Like is there not somebody else who you could go? Right? Yeah? I used to feel like that, stupid Listen, Harper and Jordans could never be together. Or maybe this is why they think that them in a relationship with work is because they equally work a lot. See um Robbin Harper's wife Rob and she didn't she became a mother, She
didn't chase any of her dreams. So he was used to that. He was used to her, you know, just being his sidekick. Oh wow, Like your woman has things that she wanted, ambitions that she wants to do. So she pretty much gave her life up for his career and to raise his child and all that stuff. And then your home girl, you know, Jordan, and Jordan is out here chasing her dreams doing a damn thing. She's sad now because she doesn't have a family. So you
see both of these dynamics. You miss what you've never had. Well, they say you can't miss what you never had, but people do, right, So you see ends of the spectrum. But in Harper's defense, he felt like he was doing He felt like he was doing like by tracing his dream, he was providing all the things that his family could ever need. The big house. That she was a little selfish. She was a little selfish. I under when they argued about the jazz clubs that that that she wanted. I
under stood his perspective too. I'm out of town. I didn't get to see it. Yeah, I trust you, but you know it's still a big purchase. It's pricey. You know what I'm saying. You've done all these things. And I identified with Jordans on this. I'm not sorry, I'm not Jordan's um identified with Robin on this. I am the type of person who starts with ship and don't finish. So that's another thing I'm doing for executing. Right. So her husband was like, I have supported you. You did this,
we did that. You stop you did this, you stopped doing that, Like there could be another thing, right and you just want me to jump out here and buy something off the whim because you called me and say I need it right now. That's kind of hard. Yeah, So I can I understand where he might have been, like, you know, I'm a bad ship, you know, like can
we find a different building? You know, he was a little bit insensitive, and I think that's where like the tone comes in, just how you say things, you know what I'm saying, because he didn't he didn't think it was such a big deal, and it was. He didn't realize how big of a deal it was for her because he didn't even text her Happy New Year. His assistant did. His assistant sent the Happy New Year because
she she had called him. She was trying to reach him so that they could talk about the building, and she couldn't reach him, and then you get the Happy New Year, I Love you text message. His assistant probably sent that ship. So now it's like I really wanted this thing, but we couldn't even communicate about it, and now you acting like it's nothing and I'm in this colde the house cold, and you know he I thought that nigger was trying to save money or something. The
house that you wanted. I didn't even want this house. And now I ain't got no heat in his motherfucker And here comes to his finance. Nigga what he does and I'm not sucking his You need to hurry up and come get here. You need to get So that's where I also identified with Robbin, because here's the thing I feel like, and I always say that women need a reason. Men just needed time and place. Mm hmm. Robin was ready to risk it off real because this
man saw her vision. He was supportive. He went with her, you know, to see the building and all this stuff that and it seems like that's a relationship. He found the building for her. Yeah, and it seems like did did Harper even know about this guy? M It didn't seem that way. It wasn't written in there in that way. Meanwhile, after Lance's um retirement event and Harper ends up at the house with Jordan's they about to smash if the phone didn't ring about Quentin, you didn't have a reason
that you didn't your wife. No, that wasn't after the retirement of it. That was that was after UM New Year's Eve. Yeah, No, it was after his premiere oh, you're right. That was after the premiere. M hmm. So after the premiere, Harper and Jordan and dep together and they were getting pretty intimate. What reason did he have to do that other than just being selfish because he's selfish. She's like the selfish character. The crazy part was his wife are selfish. So yeah, so she had the event.
They compromised, right, so she came to his event, then he came to support her, and then it was the active party. She was like, no, just go ahead, I'm gonna stay here. I would have never sent my man nowhere with Jordan's ever. Maybe she wanted something to happen, don't because I would have been like low key intimidated by that woman all the time, just because I know and fine and flies, no kid, no kids, it's just fun over there. We just watched the movie where they
fake fuck. Even we know it wasn't them, but it's you know, in the movie, it's portrayed like they those two had sex, so that the gee is already in the space you think I'm sending you boy, you better way here with me and we're gonna go. I feel like she was already out the door at that point. Anyway, she was one ft at the door once she started entertaining somebody else, Like usually you'd be looking for a little replacement, a little bit, you're trying to get the fuck.
But so I was, you know, talking to this guy at one point, right and I told him how I wasn't working with him anymore. And he goes to say, like, you can't just arbitrally make that decision on your own. I'm like, what do you mean? I said, so, if I'm not like feeling you like that anymore, are you telling me I can't walk away? And he was like, no, you're not in this by yourself. You can't just call me and say you're not a funking with me no more. And I'm like, why not? Exactly? How does that work?
One part of my brain was like, all right, that kind of makes sense. The other side was like, boy, if I don't want to focus you like I'm gonna if I gotta put a restraint in order you, that's what's going to happen. But we don't realize once you connect on people, connect with people, especially in a marriage and with a child, you aren't in that situation by
yourself anymore. And even when you don't have kids involved, and even if you're not married and you're connecting with somebody like in a real way, it's no longer like I guess at some point you'll have to mutually say we funk with you like this. This was this guy's point. We gotta mutually walk away. You can't just arbitrailly saying I can't just arbitrailly say a bit you ain't you
bulls bullshit. You can wake up today and decide not the funk with nobody somebody, and that's your prerogative, and they just have to figure out how they want to navigate their own life after that. How do you want to learn to live without you? Essentially exactly because but just we ain't gotta mutually agree on ship, but just think about times where just think about like it's really hard to get over relationships. And I was saying, like,
you should just stay with someone when you're unhappy. Um, but I know you've left somebody before you see how it affects them. I don't know. I actually went through like breakup therapy before I left my ex, Like I had to actually talk to somebody to help me through the process with leaving and staying gone because it is a process. So now when you got a child involved, she's taking herr child to a whole another continent. You're not in this thing, You're not in this life by
yourself anymore. You gotta take your ex husband into consideration, and you have to take your child into consideration. It's not just what you want to do. Because you felt like you've been supporting all the things he wanted to do. That man would have never moved to another continent. Women we take things to the extreme a lot of times. Because I've definitely moved moved twice to get away from a nigger. I moved to another continent to get a away from a name I really did. I moved to
Europe right to get away from a nigga. I moved to the Midwest. I moved to Atlanta first, that wasn't far enough, and then I moved to St. Louis and he wasn't coming up there. So yeah, like, we definitely take things to the extreme, which what men won't do. But sometimes it requires that you don't feel like it. That was one of the best decisions I ever made for myself, to move far, far, far away. So and but then you don't have any kids, so that's enough.
Like your life is not your own once you have kids. It's just not. And that little girl was already missing her dad, so now you didn't give a funk. It's what you want to do, what you you you think that's best for her. You're not taking into consideration that, um, she needs her daddy, especially if they're used to being in the house. And you made a decision that you wanted to leave the marriage, right, you had had enough
and you didn't care how he felt. And I don't understand how she got mad because he asked for um, he was trying to push for custody of his daughter. That would be the advice I'd give any of my guy friends that they called me in the same situation. Try to get your child, I would, you know, make especially if you're an active parent. But I guess the course were then taken to consideration that he's gone a lot, because it was she was in a house alone a lot. Right.
And then here's the thing, So the primary custodian parent was Robin. She was always there with that child. The happiest version of her was in Ghana. You know, don't you want your child to have the custodio parents be the happiest they could be. Right, So I'm torn on that. I'm torn on that, you know. You know, I'm just trying to put myself in Robin's shoes. And she puts Gohna on her vision board many many many years ago.
You know, this is something that she has aspired to for a long time in her life, and the opportunity and the universe conspired to have that for her. So why should she not going This man out here gallivant and were bitches from his past and can't even keep the heat on in the house because he's so gone. Why shouldn't she go do what she's been wanting to do,
you know. So a part of me looks at it like that, But then I also understand staying in New York for her child to have a close relationship with the father. Right, And then ultimately in the end he thinked her thanked Robin because I guess once you have time, because two years later now he's still doing his thing, He's still want a pullit surprise exactly. So imagine the work that took. Did you even have time for a
family for real? So maybe you know, Jordan might have been a better meet for him right at that point, but he got to have at the end of it, he got to have everything he wanted. He got the he had the wife experience, he had the child, he bought the four fun Jordan's soon seems like, and he got the poblic surprize. He won, right, he did one, but he is I believe him and his wife they have the most complex relationship out of all the couples.
And it always been that way. Mmm. Girl, you got engaged to that nigga at Mia and lace wedded after he got his ass wood for fucking the bride, all right, so you kind of fined up for this ship, you know what I'm saying. And he told you he was about to funk Jordan that night before you came, and you stayed. So I mean you gotta take some accountability. Name. I don't remember all that stuff, y'all, soo real TV motherfucker's Okay, I don't even remember all those details, but
now I do. Yeah, that is wild and it's real. You lose him, how you get him? M hmm. Oftentimes he was about to funk George and while he was your man, the night before y'all got engaged. Shame, shame. I don't know, isn't that okay? And this is this is a high. Also relate with Jordan's some more. I know I'm not the safe wife. I'm not the safe girlfriend. I'm gonna make you cry. I'm gonna give you something
to deal with. You're like, men want to be able to do all these I'm not going to actually do it, but if you do, some ship to me like, there's gonna be like repercussions. So I think that he Jordan wasn't safe. You know, men oftentimes they don't marry the woman that they actually want. They marry safe. They're homely safe. Yeah, they marry safe and then they go outside and do their little thing with the people they actually like. All right. You know one other thing that I just didn't like
about the series. Why they had that financed black man will in the story? Is she fuck them? Yeah? So man like like he was purposeless to the story, Like he didn't come to New York and fuck her? Like, why is he here being all fine and chocolate. I would have took that swordfish. I would be like, you only got one piece sordfish, sir, m hmmm, because I was like, I had a snapper. I had a snapper. Yeah, because look, jas Fish, Yes, we gotta split it. We
definitely would have been eating off the same fork. And that night we're gonna know. No one's gonna know who's gonna They're not gonna find out. But jazz And made her way to goddamn New York somehow. I don't understand why old boy made his way will Yeah, Jasmine came to me so all right. I like the part that they made her. She was flirting. Now, she was being flirting, but she was engaged, and she let him know that I'm loyal and I'm spoken for, so don't even try
because it's not happening. And I think they wanted us to see that this character could be loyal to the person that she's with. Yeah, a little frattenizing is healthy. You know. I got in trouble a lot in my last relationship for frattonizing. But it's not because he didn't frattenize. Is because I didn't snoop to see what he was doing. Um, and it just would dropping my lap. But I think
that everybody does it. Everybody like had these little chit chat little sneaky little things they do with people that they have some type of connection with. But it's not cheating, you know what I'm saying. Like and and as soon as she told him, hey, when she felt like he was liking her, she said, you know, I'm I'm engaged, and that's just how it should be. I feel like you should be able to have friends of the opposite sex. Yeah,
me too. Yeah, and if and even if you meet them later on in life, like if you're in a relationship and you like, why can't I meet a new man and and not be somebody I want to have sex with? Well, they did want to funk, though they did. The energy was there. Overall, it was good. I enjoyed it. I hope they have a part too. I don't know. I think it might be the end of it because they said the final chapters, but it would It's a
story that could keep going. Honestly, we everybody loves these characters. They've been part of our lives for twenty years, so I would I would watch another round. Well, maybe people are watching my movie when it comes out. I haven't. I can't tell you. I can't tell the people. I'll tell you once I get you to sign this verbal sign a verbal in d A. But it's essentially like uh mixture between and some of the ship I was seeing.
I'm like, you know, when you think something and you put it in the university, need to hurry up and do it because I think once you put it out in it in the ethers, other people pick it up somehow. Because some of the like little things I wanted to do in my movie is in Motherfucker best Man. So so it's like a mix between Best Man and what's that movie? Um, it's like white guys and they go um on a bachelor party like in Vegas on one Hangover, Hungo Hangover. So it's like a mix between those two.
Can I be a character in it? Yeah, you could be a character in it. I literally have like I'm looking at people like on social media. It's like some people I want that are like aspiring actresses and stuff like that that I won't get. You know, we canst lines like they wait that way. I want to roll extra, extra extra. I want to be just walking by on the phone, like like one of my characters is like an Erica Bad type person. And so when I saw the one character in the movie. I mean not like
that though. I want her to actually be like an Erica Bad type type in real life. Yeah, she wasn't. That was the one who um was went Quentin was gonna marry Quentin. Yeah, Cmara. So see it's like a CMR type character, but like a real one, you know what I'm saying. So that's one of the characters in my movie that's gonna like, um, you know, make one of the other guys, the corporate thug nigga like change, who got all the bitch is like change? Okay, coming soon, y'all,
I'll be here in a movie. So anyway, I enjoyed it. Nonetheless, I stayed up til three o'clock last night because y'all asked wanted to talk about this, But I enjoyed it. It was watched this ship so we can talk about it with our listening. I've been watching uh, His His Dark Materials on HBO Max. That's that's the show I've been currently watching. It's really good, y'all. Time travel married up. No,
it's like, um no, it's mixed. It's different people. It's like going in between different universes and she like that is stuff by the Bible. They got Metatron in there. It's it's real. Um, it's really good. But that's the time you shouldn't be like going to watch anyway, y'all. Maybe we'll do these little reviews more often on the Black Black cinema type movies that people have been following for years and years and years. But yep, so listen.
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