Married to the Business w/ Slim & Husky's

needs something like, uh, what's the ship call? Encouragement to not drink on Sunday nights, obviously because it was the Panthers one. I went to the game the Panthers one. My friend's mom. She buys drinks unlimited. It's something about those unlimited drinks that just have a bit sick on Monday, girl, I was sick and tale Saturday, so I feel you. I pulled to you this weekend. For sure. He was taking shots. No, you know, I don't chase it, bitch,

these niggas. These liquor just straight tequila. But somebody else is buying my drinks, so I drink don Wholio usually. And I stopped working with costing me Goes because I feel like once black people started drinking, costing me goes like they change the recipe, it does not taste the same, and I'd be yeah, it gives me like patron vibes, Like I really be like down bad. I can drink like a small bottle of Don Julie and be good by myself a bottle and I don't drink that often. Man,

I was really sick. I ruined my Sunday for real. Yeah that's how I feel today. We alcoholics for real just once a week, and for me on Sunday, it'd be like once every blue moon for me because I just can't, Like my body does not process LIQ at the same no more. M hmm, Like I ain't gonna be right till Tues Wednesday. I was making myself throw up like six thirty last night so I can go

out the dinner. Damn. No, I don't make myself. I just take I drink PDA like and I take like the goody hangovers and I'd be like not dead anymore. I can get on here and record with y'all, but I'll still be hurting. No girl, I had to make myself throw up because I was like busting out and sweats while I was trying to get dressed right so much so to where my lace went and stick, bitch, I can't wiping my fucking forehir with alcohol and it

just wasn't working. So I'm like, Okay, I gotta feel bad because like I'm I got, I'm busting out in sweats while I'm trying to get dressed like it's like a fat bitch, Like what's happening? But I got it together? So you eat these three meals? Okay, where'd you go eat? My little favorite spot and um, Charleston is called Pearls. You know pearls. They got pearls in Colombia. The one here is better. The the one here is better because

like the seafood is much like Fresher's my favorite. What we got going on in stupid internet news this week, y'all? Have y'all been following the blogs? I an't followed the blogs during the goddamn monkey poks pandemics. I really be having to like look for my news now outside of social media nowadays. But I know everybody's been seeing this Balenciaga campaign and they asked in hot water, and I don't know if it got anything to do with how

they play with Kanye. I just don't know, but it just seems like London Bridge is fucking falling at this point. One of their ads, they're saying that they're not responsible for the ad, and there they have like a twenty five million dollar lawsuit against the company who did the ad. The photographer said he had nothing to do with that ship. He just took the pictures. This is essentially essentially like

product placement. So they had like a kid on, a kid stand on the couch, a kid stand on the bed like holding a Teddy Bear with like bondage little outfits on, and there's like wine glasses and wine in the picture. And this is for kids clothing. It's weird. It's given, really child abuse, it's definitely given, and the kid did not happen. It's just crazy. It's just crazy how they'd be putting this ship right in your face

like that. Yeah, they've been doing this stuff all the time and they just they just expect people not to notice it. But they've since taken down their entire Instagram page. They've deleted everything because people really started zooming in on everything because there was another everything. Yeah, it was another ad and they had like a court case, um where it was like a court case for child pedophilia, just just tucked away in a book. So you really the document.

Oh wait a minute, actually that was from the photo with the kid. The other thing that somebody pointed out was actually like a woman at a desk like an office setting, and there's a book on the desk, and if you go look up the author of that book, this book is just a bunch of naked babies. Why. I don't understand whether the point of this. People don't believe in little little societies and little things these people

be doing. But they do it, and they they're sending signals to their people like they know why they do it, and then they're gonna act stupid. Once the regular naked eye see the ship, you just gotta know what you're looking at. I don't know, but um, Canada's ones was digging in. Kim Kardashian asked, because she put a statement people was looking for her like to denounce, like they'd be trying to get uh, the presidents and stuff like

to their ounce white supremacy. Denounced this announced that denounced them. It's just a goddamn clothing line. Isn't it. It's just a designer. How much money you are really tied up with these people because they definitely denounced Kanye ass after one tweet. But this is the type of ship they can get away with. It's disgusting. The host the whole ship is discussing it's weird. Damn. I bought some Valenciaga sneakers. I can't wear them, no, moha, you better put them

on the real real the big clunky as sneakers. Those ships is the workout, yeah, they have. You never have to want to run in those that stump a bit though. So Yeah. During the last Monday's Night's episode of Loving Hip Hop New York, Chrissy shared over the first dinner Jim Jones had prepared for her in their sixteen years together, that she no longer felt it necessary for them to marry, despite the huge engagement ring one on her finger for years. Damn,

that's crazy. I think they did. I think they actually married, and they do the ship for show, because there's no way you want to be like the dumbest bit of the century for this man. Remember she proposed to him one year, Yes she did. Well, maybe she just fed up she's fifty one. She's fifty one. That's just fine. She's nice, Yes, she's very because you don't have no kids and she never got married, never been married. Mrs would never have kids and don't get married. I always

look good for some reason, less stressed. But he's definitely been stressing her, and that's just unfortunate. Like that's what I feel like. I feel like it's just like for show, like y'all, damn their family members at this point, Damn near they are. They've been common law husband and wife for a long time, regardless of the paper Jim Jones. So she I'm little older, and you know, the mom kept urging her to have a baby and all this stuff.

Like back then on the show. Maybe that played a party because I believe he has a kid, at least

one or two kids. But I mean, if you if you don't want to be with this one, you should have let her go a long time ago, you know what I'm saying, Like what he was doing to her at that table, Like he got so upset because he was like, well you want to get married at and she was like, you haven't even asked me if I still want to get married, Like you're skipping ahead some steps, that's what she said, some steps, and that's what men do.

Like he was gas lighting the hell out of her ass at that damn table, like all of a sudden, it's just all the problems he has, just just some real I hate to just be calling all men narcissists, but it was some real narcissistic behavior. Mm hmm. I have nothing to offer, but you brought it up. You brought it up, and still nothing. Can Christie move on? I need I need her to go get her like a little sixty four year old daddie. Okay, no, she

needs to get her a thirty two year old daddie. No, so he can fund the ship out of her m. I don't know. Jim Jones being the gym girl, he probably got some stamina. That's probably why her asks can't leave him alone. Maybe that's what it is. I'd like to think that's what it is. I don't want to think about that. What else happened? Child? So, just like a little while ago, Meg the Stallion put out um

opposed to her social media child. She's the first black woman I hate those terms, but she's the first black woman to grace the cover of Forbes thirty third. How about that. That's congratulations to her and real hot girl ship she had. I think, Megan say it had a decent year in spite of all the bullshit. So little Man is in court today also in court and her homegirl umxl right had the parent court today, UM for

the assault of Magna Stallion. I really want to see what comes out of that, and I hope, you know, when all the truth or whatever comes out, um, people apologize to her because I really feel like she was violated. So I'm happy, like she still pushing forward. She got hern old label so funking with her all the time. She had to put a restraining one on those niggas and with all the ship that's going on in Houston,

people was like, are you a snitch? What? Like they literally like people literally dying and she has like all these different men attacking her from every every is a lot of you know what, It is weird that there's so many men. I didn't know the stand that is nothing but men? Why are not so angry with her?

Because she's too powerful? Right now? Um? And I guess we may get into this and our main topic tonight, UM, But right now is like in our main topic today, we might get into this and I guess right now and we might get into this and our main topic today.

But men may not like this. But the world was better when you can check history when it was like matriarchal lead leadership, Like there was no wars, none of that ship you checked the fucking history books along with all these the three major religions came patriarchy and it's

been held ever since. And I feel like men think they're losing some power somewhere, Like they don't even see the benefit of, you know, not having to carry the load themselves, the invisible load for a lot of these guys, you know what I'm saying, because a lot of them not not really showing up. But you can, you can lean on your your woman, you know what I'm saying, Like women are very very powerful. I want to lean on you. How are you gonna lean on me? If

I'm leaning lean on each other? You know what I'm saying, Like either one of us are the type of women I just want to be out here is just straight for ness and niggas, I don't think anyway, not once we define dress, rest foriness and let these niggas do the rest Hey like that that really was my mantra like in my twenties. That's terrible. Yes, but anyway, Yeah, she better stay prayed up. And yes, the goddamn um

frustrating order. There's nothing wrong with that, Like she needs to do whatever she needs to do to protect herself because the nick is stopping the check threatn her via social media even l whatever, Like, no, you can't do that. It's restraining orders are hard to get if you're not a celebrity. But that's a conversation for another time. That's gonna put you out there to restraining order. I try. Oh bitch, I remember, I remember. Let's not even talk

about her, just in case. Here as still stocking and be listening and then she starts listening up, I'm gonna pull up on her. I don't want to parts of that lady. All right, y'all, So we got some very amazing gentlemen on today. They're gonna drop some jewels for y'all. If you haven't heard of slimming Huskies pizza, you will

learn about them today. They're super dope, y'all, stay too, all right, guys, we're back and we're with the Gentleman from Slimming Husky co founded by National Natives Clint Gray and Derek Moore. Emanuel Reid, he's not with us today, but thank you guys for on your thank you. Thank you. So, okay, tell our listeners about Slimming Husky and how y'all got started. Yeah, So Slimming Huskies. Um, it's not just a piece of company, it's a story, a story of one skinny dude and

two big guys and Slimming Huskies. Right, And so we've been entrepreneurs since we started off with a moving company, built that up from the ground up. Uh, just three thousand dollars, sold that for seven figures seventeen, turned around and reinvested in ourselves and opened up a piece of shot. And we didn't want to just open up any type of pizza shop. We wanted to represent who we were. We had a love for pizza, art and music and

also our community. So we put our first, very first concept in the middle of northern Nashville zip code three seven two zero eight, which is historical African American side of our city. Nashville isn't really known as a black city, but we have a lot of a black heritage home

in Tense State University, Fish University, Harry Medical College. Uh. And so we wanted to basically put a super dope concept that we had worked hard for and reinvested our heard hard earned money into into our neighborhood and in return with rather to provide jobs, um and just become a beacon of light to a neighborhood that didn't have an open business for sixteen blockers consider the food desert and uh, you know, just really just wanted to pour

in our neighborhood. So that's our stories. Three guys on a mission to provide economic development, education and opportunities, uh to people to look like us. Okay, how did you meet? Uh? So e J and I man in second grade? So e J really originally from acron Ohio. So he came down his mom had a job down here, and so we made a second grade. So we've been friends since elementary school. And then uh we made Clint each actually made a first high school. They within this program was

in Row in Rows. Yeah, they were in Rods together. Um. And then uh and then Clinton I. Actually we ain't battle it out, but but you know we got a little story where where growing up. He was in his high school fraternity, and I just so happened to just be in the place with some armies that was that I went to school with. I was cool with. It was beefing with his high school fraternity and just just some big brawl just happened. Now, I mean, clan ain't

fight now. It was like it was like, man, like fifty people in the middle of downtown Nashville outside of the crazy going crazy. So but now I me and Clinton fight though I found a couple of hommies when I don't to fight him, and uh, but I was hot because I'm like, man, I ain't got no problem with none of these people like y'all bringing me to this,

you know what I'm saying, You know I mean. Anyways, but it was like probably like our junior year then senior year, we both end up signing uh football scholarship to go to the shoot, and so we just got tight. We just he hit me up. We were sprunning the same circles anyways, but he hit me up, and uh, when I sat can't pulled up on my He from my South Nashville, I'm from Eastern Nashville, pulled up my apartment and smoked the j and drank some some some

creature cooler vodka type ship. We've been since. So, y'all, the two Huskies are was one of y'all wanted to slim in two thousand seventeen and became the US. No, we slim. You know when you see slim, you're okay. O. Modem bumped up a little bit and I didn't slim down a little bit. But we're still on the two. Yeah, sure, sor right, Uh y'all. Why pizza? You know, like you know, like that any money y'all worked at a pizzeria or something. No,

I never nah no, um. I mean so when we used to uh be on the trucks and stuff with the moving company, we had, um you know, we'd be going to all these different cities in New York, Chicago, Houston, you know what I mean, we'd be all over the country and um on the road. One of the quickest things we can give us peace to go to the gas station get pizza. And so anyways, we started doing

some research. When we have made the decision we wanted to get in the hospitality industry, we start doing some research and uh, you know, figuring out what do Americans eat. So you know, it's hamburgers, hot dogs, pizza, and tacos. So it's like, right, you know what I'm saying, We're gonna beat the tacos to who's supposed to have the tacco you know what I'm saying. And then hot dogs,

we didn't really want to do that. We didn't really feel like you know, we I mean, we grew up on eating hot dogs, but like there wasn't a fun food for us, you know what I mean. And then Hamburger's it was it was at a time in Nashville when we had Hamburger spots, craft Hamburger spots popping up every corner. So it's like, man, we do pizza, and that's something we grew up on, you know, we eighties

nineties babies, you know what I mean. So you know, w WF WrestleMania parties, it was pizza, you know what I mean. Nicks, it was pizza, you know what I mean? So yeah, t J M, you know what I mean. So, so that's what we grew up on. We feel like we could we could make a splash with that, have some fun with it. Uh, slim Huskies not just about us, but also the size of the pieces and slim muskie. Uh. And then that's something that we felt like we at

least understood. It wasn't a steakhouse, it wasn't a seafood spot, you know what I mean. So we understood a piece and it just worked for us. And then we understood the margins too. Uh So we gotten like deep down and scientifically financially like, you know, the margins and pizza are are are much better than you know, a lot of other restaurants and foods out there. So that's why we jumped into pieces. So how much does it cost to make a pizza? Like, what's the average cost for pizzas?

Around three fifty uh four dollars with the box included. So we have all different kinds of pieces though. We got everything from uh just a basic cheese pizza to a meat lovers to a uh smoke we kind of smoking nerve but has smoked salmon on it. So you know, we have high end products, chicken, sausage, things most people don't put on pizza like and we do it completely vegan pizza with vegan pepper oni, vegan sausage, um and everything you know that you know, our plant based family

can enjoy. Yeah, they can get expensive. Man, when you start adding salmon and shrimp, you know, premium meat products and stuff like, what it's a vegan sausage, What the fun is that? Right? So so so I was and I was pestkeytarian and slash vegetarian for like six years before we started the piece of company, right, and so, one thing I've learned is that, you know, it's hard to transition from just eating you know, from going to eating meat um and chicken and poultry and things like

that to just you know, right. So I think a lot of times it's a mental thing, right, like making people feel like they can still enjoy um. You know, they're old diets and the old habits, but without all of the you know, the fatty um you know, things that make things unhealthy so um. You know, when people replicate different foods to make them vegan, I think it's more so to help people transition and then people continue with lifestyle that makes them feel normal. Um so ire beg.

In sausage, we use a p plant, a pea plant protein so um. You know, we don't use a ton on a soy because a lot of people of view soy is unhealthy. But we have a company here locally that we work with called the Beehive, and they sell

some really good, like being alternative products. Something about sausage made out of peas just don't sit right with my because, like if you think about pizza, pizza flavors can be hid in pizza because the core thing to make you a piece of good as your dough, your sauce, and your cheese, anything else on that it's gonna get blended into that flavor. So when you take that bite, you're really tasting the dough and the sauce and the cheese,

not necessarily those ingredients. So as long as we can mask you know what the piece, it may taste like, Uh, you can still visually see it. Man, it tastes really good. It tastes like our regular pizza. Right, So you're kind of psyching your mind out, like this is sausage but it's really peas. Yeah, I might have to try that, you know, you don't try some vegan stuff, some vegetarian stuff. I never tried. No vegan sausage. You probably the ingredients.

Usually it's like peas that soy. I'd be weirded out by that because it's like vegetable, but it's a burger and I just can't wrap my head around that. You know, y'all, y'all ever tried our home Girl Slutty Vegan, I have not. They're about to open the location here in Charlotte. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I see y'all have locations in Nashville, Atlanta, Sacramento, in Memphis. Are y'all gonna franchise perhaps? Or how y'all moving with that? We uh left out of Chattanooga, Okay, okay,

get me together. We got to two concessions and uhs Formers Place six and State and whether type play one in vanderbil State. You know, we got one going up. Uh it's the latest one in the same Timea's Hospital here in Nashville. Um, but franchise And to answer the question, Uh no, not right now. We really want to keep corporately on m M. You know, perfected. Um. You know you would think with nineteen stories, you know, and then all these concessions, you you gotta perfected, you know what

I mean? But yeah, you know it's a changing world. That change is fast, so we want to make sure before we franchise to do anything like that we want to make sure it's right uh and ready for the for the franchise, Z for the consumer and uh so yeah, we want to keep it keeping court before a while and we made never a franchise, I don't think. Yeah, we're going to uh, we're gonna a tour next year,

so we gotta pop up. It's gonna be based out of Austin, Texas, and we're gonna do pop up, like a pop up two across the country with pizza, art

and music. And so we'll start off and like in Houston, Dallas, we'll go for everywhere from New Orleans, Miami, uh and also all the major festivals, so we'll be in Chicago, will be you know, you'll probably find us at you know, One Music Fest in Atlanta and Essence Fest in New Orleans and Rolling Loud in Miami, Dreamville, you know fest, dream Fest and uh and uh, I think it's a

rally North Carolina. And yeah, we're looking to like go all over the country next year as a major marketing component too, like introduced everybody who may not be in the markets that we're in, introducing to who we are pizza and also just our vibe, so you know, we have our own live music series we host here in Nashville. We want, you know, to introduce them to that, you know, when we come to town. Um as well as our art shows that we do. Like we're in our um

our gallery right now. It's called Inca Gallery. So we've got one here in Nashville, another Membis, Tennessee. And uh yeah, we're just trying to you know, spread the love and introduce people to we called the pream world everything someone huskies, progress rules everything around he So y'all also are in some locations grocery stores frozen pizza. How did that come about? And how long have you all been doing that? Man? We started working this pretty much pretty much a pandemic

type business venture that we started. Um, we always want to dive into products. You get Master Peak talk about all the time products gonna top back, so you know, so we always want to dive in the products. You always want to be on the shelves. Um and uh.

We built the relationship with a friend of rus at the term truck uh and he was like many I wanted to see y'all pieces of work on the shelves and so we got a food scientist and whipped it up and star freeze and putting on the shelves, doing great. And then we also uh work with gold Belly. Uh so you know people can shield pieces all across the country and also slim Huskies dot com. Uh you can get pizzas from there as well, and the sauces in the Sentinel roads too. Damn. So you said, y'all, y'all

duties festivals are y'all mobile? Do you have like a food truck as well? Yeah, we got a food truck is based in Tennessee. We got another one that's gonna be based in Austin, Texas, and that's gonna be the one that moves around the country. Okay, go, so when y'all when you're gonna put one in Charlotte, because I like pizza ship hungry as fuck, chucked up to my stomach is messed up. I was drinking last night. A slice of pizza would be good right now to help

me with what I mean. It was about it was about a year and a half, we'll we would be in Charlotte. We we're gonna start doing some some site selections real soon. Yeah, the next couple of months. So we hit up Charlotte and d C and you know, go back down to Atlanta and you know what I mean, We're gonna keep moving around, um, you know in the Southeast South Way, so Houston, Dallas. Bum. In the meantime, it's adult Black owned pizzeria down and Charlotte. I checked

out called Bird Pizzeria. Y'all tried, Tom you No, I haven't heard of that Bird Bird. Yep, Bird Pizza. Rea Black as a husband and wife. Uh, the slanging pines. I just I just window out there, so it looked them up. I'm definitely gonna look them up because I need something on my stomach right now. I'm like, all right, y'all, we're gonna take a commercial real quick, and we're gonna come back and talk about relationships in business and relationships period.

So y'all stay tuned. We'll be right back. So, So, like with owning and operating a business, it is essentially like a marriage. So how did you pick your partners aside from just going to school with them? Like, how did you know that this would be a good a good union? And it's like, like, what are some of the biggest challenges you guys find in business together? Um? I don't know. I don't know if I don't know, if we picked we picked each other like that. I

think it just came together. Um you know, I mean, you know, I always you know, we got a good thing going, man, And sometimes you really can't take you credit for it. I'd be like, man, that was God, you know what I mean. So I feel like just just from growing up going through trials and tribulations separately together, you know, on the football field was roommates and in college, Um, you know, we we all went off to do our

own thing. I was at traffic controller and uh, you know, left they got a law school, had a bunch of jobs I got fired from. Uh. Clinton Clint was in sales. It was in finance and he was a financial analysts and uh and the pieces just kind of got kind of got put together for us to like come together and do and do our first business. And uh, I think that a lot of the kings got earned out in the first business. Um, you know how we word like,

I can't honestly like I know my partner. So if it's something like six in the morning, five in the morning, I'm probably not gonna call Clinton, you know what I mean? Because you know that's I mean. And uh, and the same thing with e J. If it's like some hippie lifting or even if it's an event like EJ don't always want to be the most social. Now you put some numbers in front of it, or he want to panel about numbers, He's gonna talk all day. But you know that's just not this thing. And so I won't

call him. And you know, I'm sure there's things about me that they won't call me for, you know what I mean. So man, it just really just came together just to trial and trip relations. Like I said, the first business we learned each other, learned a lot about each other going through some very very hard tough times. Um. And then that's when we really start seeing like who're

gonna really ride for? Whos gonna stick around? Uh? You know, who were for a long haul when it gets tough, and we we've been through that time and time again, and we just keep rolling so um, you know. And then on the business side of it, you know, separate from friends, we always want to make sure the paperworkers right. So we got with our lawyer, you know, we got by sale buy out agreements between us. You know what

I mean all that type of stuff. If he ain't holding up, if I'm not holding up, EJ not holding up, you know what I mean, we can buy each other out, you know what I mean. Operating agreements are right, um, and the paperworkers on point, you know what I mean. So we hold each other accountable, not just as friends and not just looking out or brothers, not just looking out for each other's family and well being, but also on the business side as with um and uh, and

we made a pack, you know what I'm saying. Like, you know, we won't let business get in front of friendship, and friendship get in front of the business, you know what I mean. Now it's challenges, of course, you know, some some some things with a friendship, some hard, some conversations that are hard. Uh. You know it's a little bit harder because we are friends, you know what I mean.

And we do understand each other's plight, you know what I mean, that what we're going through personally, um and so yeah, in plus, you don't want to be an asked out to your friends, you know what I mean. So, um, you know those conversations that we have, what we have to have them because we have a business. We have to run them. We gotta be around each other all the time and talk to each other no matter what. Yeah, yeah, I think I think our friendship makes us stronger as

business partners. Honestly, Like we go through some things that people that haven't been through our struggles are new to working together in business, they don't quite understand yet. Like I got the story our typical a lot of time. Like first thing, trust an accountability to me, like the two things that we can't lose, right, I got try some dudes, you know what I'm saying, My life, my kids,

you know anything. And so an accountability side is very important too, because you know, just like in any relationship, you got to be able to hold somebody accountable when they do ship wrong. Right, so we get never again, were over to my first story. First of my huskies, man, I was. I have been in there all day, like testing products because I work on the product side of things and marketing and stuff, and I was testing, testing, testing.

We had an artist and on some on the ladder like painting the ceiling, and when other home was just in that we were talking and more walks in. I ain't seen all day. He walks in and he's like a bro liken. Hell long his cheese been sitting now And I'm like, man, I've been working man, the chiefe sitting now here like man, you can't leave the cheese out like this. I'm like, bro, I've been working on this all day. May ain't chill, you know what I'm saying, Like, na,

you need to put the cheese up. In trouble. So so looks so we're going back and forth like brothers, right, like we areguent customed each other out. And you know, you see the artist starting to get down off the ladder because he's like man to break out, is about to fight already. Humble was in there, was trying to figure out like real, like do I need to break it out? Need this up? You know what I'm saying,

what's going on? But like this ship, we've been doing for a long time, so you wouldn't we knew we want to throw no blow. But there's some things that need to be said at the end the day. I was wrong because yeah, the Hill Department walked in on day one day too, and the chiefs having Man, that's wrong. But that's me saying, all right, you know what you was right I'm gonna be you know, I'm gonna be wrong on this when he was holding me accountable. Let's

move on to the next time. Yeah, we had several moments when each of us said, you know, in the wrong. It just always like a right a wrong thing. You're just like, you don't got to hold each other count you know what I'm saying that you gotta be able to take it. If you can, you gotta dish it out. You gotta be to take it. So uh yeah, that was funny though. But that back into the culture, right, Like that's one of the things about our culture that

we got to improve on. Like every argument ain't got the n N a fight or break up on shooting out, you know, so somebody having a you know, an issue with the entire world here is about you know what I'm saying, Like, we gotta learn how to hold each other accountable as a community. So for us, it just starts with the yeah and to communicate effectively. Oh yeah, yeah, but like I didn't, I didn't jump right out to the porch or how to talk to Clint, you feel me or e J and and they all had a thing.

We've had these meetings and they all had a thing about me like I would come off like too hard or too harsh or or not even you know, not even feeling like I wouldn't listen to the other side, you know what I'm saying. So like these are things that these are conversations that we've had with each other that we had to like grow and get to. You're talking about, you know what we thirty eight. Well I'm the youngest, so I'll be thirty eight and a couple of a couple of days. But I feel like, right,

that's what you just said. Couple of days and I got about about a week about a week ago, and then Clint just turned thirty eight, and uh, what you're talking about? You know, we started with our first business, you know what I'm saying. So that's a long time how to communicate, you know what I mean? Because as as as men as people like, we need the same you know, five years ago, two years ago, you know what, I'm used to change and evolving. You know, it's just

you know, it's just like that. So yeah, yeah, I think the most important thing is learning how somebody wants to be talked to, you know what I'm saying, how somebody wants to be treated, you know, because they say, treat people how you want to be treated. Now you have to treat people how they want to be treated. So it is a learning curve sometimes for some people when it comes to communication. Yeah, sometimes you gotta get it to them now, even though they might want their

ship soft. We might have to get it to them hard though. You know, you know that's real with men. But I think when men will end up in a real fist fight, you start giving it too hard to each other. You have to be a little bit more delicate with one of you. Don't think men fight. I feel like men all get into a fight quicker. No, No, I don't know. Y'all stop being friends quicker than men. Yeah, Like sure, gon, we're gonna have a draink to like Clint. They might have Clint put the cheese up and they

went and had a beer. You know, we wouldn't speak for weeks and probably won't even eat cheese no more. Like cheese. I don't even like cheese no more because of that motherfucking bitch vacations everything that. There was a time though, there was a time I would fall out about bit you had this and you didn't pay for this, just put the cards out the question being successful black men, how do you feel about dating or being with women who make more than you? Man, that's what I'm looking for.

That sounds like a whole lot of success in the household of me. And also, man, it depends on it really depends on the type of the type of man you are. Honestly, I mean every man ain't the same mentally, you know what I'm saying, Like you have to you know, there's some man that might see that as intimidating, you know what I'm saying, But for me, I'm personally just just not one of them dudes like to me, I have to take that as a blessing and a challenge

at the same time. You know what I'm saying, like do I do I want? Do I want to make the most money in the household? Preferably I would? You know what I'm saying, But I ain't tripping if I'm not. And what I gotta do to either work with you is my partner and or you know I'm saying work on my own, but your support to you know what I'm saying, to change things? And um, yeah, man, I got a home girl. Um, they got a big platform. We were just talking and I'm like, yo, you know what,

I'm single man. I'm looking for you know, I'm looking for somebody that ain't gonna be so attached to me because I'm out working every day from you know what I'm saying early morning to sometimes late at night, Like I need somebody to got some business about. Yeah, and so you know she's sending me people. I'm like, send me, send me something else whatever. But but like you know, don't be like that about everybody. What I'm gonna scorpion up ship. I'm a little self, but I'm loyal up. Yeah,

you loyal to the bob on on the tip. I mean it's been times where where it's my wife. She she as an awesome job and makes some great salary. And um, it's many times where you know, pandemic or whateverywhere where you know, we we didn't know whether next dollar might come from you know what I'm saying, or as a business right or or you know, we get paid lass. You know people don't understand about entrepreneurship is like we as the owners get paid lass, then just

get paid. Worst employ easy to get paid first, keep the lights on. Everybody get paid before we do, you know what I'm saying. And so it's many times where it's like she had to hold it down and I was grateful, and I was thankful for that, like because you know, it's it's it's like Clint said, this is a whole lot of success in one household under one roof. And you know, as far as men, they can't handle that.

I really think the way the trend is going away women coming up, just black women, like everybody, get used to it because you know, it's i mean, y'all popping right now. And so you know what I'm saying, from education to being is and and just all platforms like black women especially are all rising through the ranks right now.

I think that if you were a man, especially a black man, and you can't fathom your woman making more money than you, and you need to reevaluate what's your purpose is because if you purpose, if you think that it's just finances that makes you a man, then you already lost, you know what I'm saying. So I was out last night with a couple of friends, um with a girlfriend of mine and some guys she knew, and

the relationship conversation is just gonna always come up. If you got a couple of women a couple of men, like, it's just gonna happen. And I was trying to explain to them, like how you know, like black women gonna die alone, We're gonna die by ourselves. Always bullshit, right, But you were explaining that what they were saying, that's

always the rhetoric, right. So, um, I was basically trying to explain to them, like the men that y'all say that women Black women like our our expectations, our standards, boundaries, everything just too high. Right. But the men y'all want us to marry are the same men you wouldn't go into business with, you know what I'm saying. I don't

understand that what you're saying. If you would you have went into business with either one of these guys, if they didn't have a track record of anything successful, you know what I'm saying, If they didn't have any means you had to help build them and all that stuff. No, No, I mean, well, I mean we don't have nothing success

other than graduating from college, you know what I'm saying. So, but I understand what you're saying, But for us, it was just a little bit different because we we had to What I think is, you know what we have to think about even we're talking about relationships, like sometimes you gotta grow with each other. Feel me, Like that's what we did, Like we grew as businessmen with each other. You know what I'm saying, We grew in you know, successfully with each other. We can start off like have

you know what I'm saying. It wasn't the book to this. You know what I mean. We didn't have all the answers and we weren't always right when we grew into who we are together. So I think that's part of a black household or any household. We we all got daughters. If I had to consult money question, I got ways

to go. She's about to turn four. But if I had a consult or, you know, you know, like he said, like we started from the ground up, you know what I mean, Like I've you know, I've been to the dude that had a lot of ambition walking out of school. But you know what I'm saying, I was working hard towards those goals. But you know saying, somebody with you know what I'm saying, fast money might have picked my crush about the school and they're gone, and I'm just like,

iust what's saying. But but but you know, like I think that if I had to consult, I would say, hey, look, look for somebody who has ambition first, right, but then and and support them in their ambition, because everybody's not gonna start off with everything you know I'm saying given to him. But then also as that relationship progresses, you gotta identify whether or not to have execution or match

that that bit what I'm saying. And if that execution isn't there, then you can support them and try to get them to that point. But if it's not comfortable, you don't like the way it's moving, you got to

keep it. You got to keep it going because there's something big and better out there for you, right, So, like you know, definitely, uh, you know, pay attention to the characteristics and not just to talk, you know what I'm saying, and uh, you know, make sure somebody is gonna be able to grow with you and not just

you know, make a bunch of promises. Right. So I have a question with um women making more and um, would y'all feel do y'all feel like men should be the head of the household for the relationship to be successful, or should should there be a hierarchy of things, like the man should be the head and have the final state,

or it should be like an equal partnership. I can't I can't really speak for I mean, we're from the South, you feel me, so you know, we it's a little bit different Bible belt, Bible belt, so you're getting taught all your life in me and out ahead of the household.

But that doesn't just mean like it's like you running that thing with you know what I'm saying, Like that doesn't mean like submission doesn't mean like you know, she walking in there joint and you know soon she come in, she bound out that you're like, you know that's that's taking all out of context. You know what I'm saying. I think that I think that you for anybody, you

gotta work with what work for y'all. You know what I'm saying, Like I don't even know how to put it other than that, I mean, as far as me and running the household, it's something about a man being

protecting your house, protecting this woman and this fact. You feel what I'm saying something about a man, provided you feel me not being the number one provider, but provided you feel what I'm saying, like, we I know Clinton, I mean, we believe in that co hardly his dad is an o G. You feel me like this one of the man that I've always looked up to. Daddy married. Yeah, But but I don't know if it's every time. I'm sure it's the time Mrs Brady, maybe more than Pops.

You feel what I'm saying. But he still hold his household down, you know what I mean. I think that and she honors him, and his children honor him, and I think that's that's that is more important than having to put a title on hierarchy, you feel me or granted, it's some things that that a man will do that a woman won't do in the household or not won't do. Excuse me, just may not be a favorite of I mean, if if I got to go out there and paint the house, I'm not expecting my wife to go do that,

you know what I'm saying. Like, but if she want to join, come on, you know what I'm saying. So, but you know it's some things in my household that they may think she I mean, I take care of the plants in the house. You feel me, you know what I'm saying, And you know I got a green thumb. But that's somebody enjoyed doing, you know what I mean.

So you know, I don't know. I just think that that we we lose as a community when we're started trying to put these titles on who's supposed to do what in the household, and man, y'all come together, y'all, put you'all resource together, y'all grooving, and y'all making things. Worn't how y'all want to make their joint work. You've got a successful household, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, I completely agree with that. I think in business, whoever

controls the finances controls the business. Right Like, if you in the charge of the books, you can you can make pretty much every decision that you want to make, uh, you know, for that company at home. I don't think it should be that way. I think it's you know, we always talk about what you bring to the table. It's like, all right, let's lay out when we bring to the table. Let's make it a good ass fucking table.

You know what I'm saying, but it doesn't mean, well, I'm bringing the finances to the table, so I'm the one that's calling off the shots around. To me, that's a little unhealthy because you know there's times where you might be bringing all the money, but something may happen, like like most saying like I've seen my family, you know what I'm saying, grow together, and you know, Pops bringing in the big check. But my mom also had

a really good job. So when things might have stole down for Pops, my mom, you know what I'm saying, stepped up. So it was never about who about the money, and it's all about how can we build the most love often in this place. And so yeah, I think, man, just like you said, man, share the resources and figure out how you know what I'm saying, you can make

the housework for you. How do you all think we ended up in this situation though, because I feel like it's only in Black America, Black in America, black amongst black Americans where this discussion about who pays for what, who whose plate get fixed first? Like how did we end up here? I disagree with you, j J. I think I would have to disagree with what you talking about. People's fight. We live in a capital capitalist society. Like it's just American. It ain't a Black problem, it ain't

a white problem. It's just American. It's an American problem. But you don't really see the public discussions amongst white women and white men about what's going on in their community. And I feel like all of our ship is on display. So if anybody wants to come in and really dismantle our ship, we've given them all the ample. So that's on us though. That's now that's a media question, you

feel me, that's what What are we pushing out? What are the things that we're pushing down about our community? I made a post on my on my story the thing about like highlighting the the positives and the good things about our culture. Feel what I'm saying, man, The black family is strong, and this is something that the media doesn't like to talk about because it's threatening. You feel what I'm saying, A strong back. A black family is a threat, and it's strong and it's getting stronger.

We just like to push out all these negative topics, and that's what we lose as a community, and then we entertain it. That's what we lose as a community, and we entertained hal for that it's coming out about us, man, it wouldn't even be a story, you know what I mean. So that's that's something that we have to fix in the community. But as far as like this hierarch and all that type of stuff, like that's an American problem,

you know what I mean. And I think it's the countries that you know, you look at what's going on soccer, you know what I'm saying. You talk about Iran and and uh and what's going on over there with women's rice and all that type of stuff, Like it's a world problem. You know how I get get pushed back, you feeling me into the front. But I think all of that is on a positive trend. Change. Yeah, go ahead,

go ahead, I's gonna saying. And we're just getting to we we're We've been working hard as a coach for years to like to fight the odds and the challenges in front of us. We have more educated you know what I'm saying, millennials now than every before and even more the next generation coming to the pipeline. We've got more African American women make money now, you know what I'm saying. That ever before and have an opportunity to you know, run their household as a what I'm saying,

a married person. Right, So it's like we're getting new issues now that we've never had to deal with because we've been growing as a culture, you know what I'm saying up until this point. So it's gonna be more and more challenges to come, new issues to come about, just because black people are becoming more and more successful, and you know what I'm saying to you know recent uh,

you know topics. I mean, if we don't control the media is being pushed out on us, they're going to try to you know what I'm saying, crushes because they see that grow and they see what can happen when we work together. So I mean, we just gotta be prepared for what that change means in our society through the successful being able to guard. Can I just admit something. I don't want to be an equal partner. I don't want to Hell no, I'm tired of running this ship.

I want somebody to come in here and take the will first. Will Yeah, right, like people gotta have their own preferences to Yeah, you know what you're saying, wrong, You ain't that ain't nothing to admit too. Yeah, but people, some people would say that's weak, you know, like she wants she don't want to be equal. That's the dumbest ship.

We signed up for the same way. That the same way I said, I'm looking for the same way I said, I'm looking for somebody who ain't gonna you know what I'm saying, be on my coach at all the time, and like needs so much time because busy I am. I'm also saying to ship, I worked long hours, you know what I'm saying. And when I get home sometimes you know, MO go home, it might be dinner on the table or he might you know what I'm saying,

be making dinner for the family. Who knows when I got pizza one of the frozen pizzas and the oven off here, ain't nothing doing. I got to clean the house up, cook the meal or go out to eat what I'm saying. So yeah, like there's value in that too, or you just get or you just get your paper. You just got somebody outsourcing. Yeah, but Tama, it's it's

no switch now. So you say you want somebody to come in and and and control things, But do you think that there's an internal switch that you can turn off to be able to deal with that. And that's the problem. I don't know. I don't know. Can I just let somebody take control when I've been controlling ship my whole life, you know, my whole adult life. I don't know, but I showed would like to find out. I don't. I don't want somebody to come in and be like, this is your bad time. No, I don't

want it to be like that type of control. But I just want someone else to like lead. You remember when I used to have to get off the phone. She used to have to like she was in a relationship and she's like, I gotta go, it's bad time this. I was like, what, turn the light off, turn the TV off. It's like stop talking now. Yeah, that worked for you. They ain't together no more. I'm not somebody that's easily controlled. I think that was a surprise for him. Yeah.

It's one thing to set boundaries in your relationship, but to tell somebody when they need to go to bed, it's like a whole different kind of level of control. Like I don't want to be controlled. Enjoy that. Yeah, they probably like it. I didn't because, like then you also don't want me to go lay on the couch so I can still do what I want to do and tell him, actually, sleepy, you want me to still stay right here in the dark, just laying in the dark. Nah,

that's why, just laying there. That's weird me some melotonin or something like they do these babies, you know, to like your relationship or past relationship with them. Did he feeds? You don't say? Like life y'all? Oh goodness that partner selection boy in business and life? That ship is hella important? Yeah? Do you do you guys take therapy? Have y'all ever had to take therapy as business partners? And do you

take individual therapy as a group? Nam? But I think it's I think we should though, I think we need to start um and I've been thinking about that a lot. But individually I have I'm sure, j No, not individually, not to score. I'd like to do things. It's therapeutic though, h Yeah. I think Black people need a different type of therapy anyway. We need like spiritual therapy, not like yeah for sure all this so I mean, but you know I'm set on some couches for sure. That lady

when you're talking to the lady, the ladies. The lady said, you don't have you through some things, you know what I'm saying. And uh, but you know what I mean. Also, like Clint said, other things is therapeutic, like this art gallery, just being here around art, the visual arts therapeutic. Um think therapy. Yeah, cleaning a lot of tattoos, that's his therapy, you know what I mean. I might smoke with Jake probably just about any night just to just to vibe

out and just chilling. I listen to podcasts and using that therapeuty. Cleaning up is therapeutic for me. Cooking, Believe it or not. It's the weed that makes you want to clean up. I've seen that and started cleaning the baseboards and ship like goddamn cleaning. You know what I'm saying. Working out of therapeutic, running this very therapeutic, just to get about it all. But does any of that stuff

really help you yield? Though? I think a lot of that stuff just helps you get through to keep going. I mean, doesn't really help you heal from ship. I mean stress management healing. You know, it's you know, you either manage it, deal with it, or you heal from the worst thing you can do is just deal with it. So if you're managing it, then that's that's that's that's a good step, you know what I'm saying. Now, whether you heal from it or not, I think a lot

of times it's all up to us. It's people to heal, you know what I mean, and let things go, uh and don't let things hold on to us. But I mean, if you're managing your stress stresses you you can't run from it is here, you know what I mean. So if you're managing it by running or smoking a j or cleaning or whatever your stress management is, I think that's that's the focus that that we should have even as a community, like learning how to manage the things

that that's gonna come that's inevitable, you know stress. One thing I know we don't that well is take advantage of like vacations, so like must you know, yeah, man, like I can probably speak the all three of us, like you have you been on a vacation and now we now we got work trips, you know what I'm saying. Or you know, like you know, fellas trips and things like that. But man, that ain't vacation like we we haven't done a good job, but like just shutting ship down.

You know what I'm saying, turn the phone off and like you know, just connecting and so like that's for me, you know that's something in twent twenty three, Like I really want to like practice a little more little vacation. It's hard to disconnect because I feel like on my vacation, if I can't share it on my Instagram, is it really a vacation. I can't help my phone off. You don't need everybody keeping up with moves some That's that's

I don't like that. We gotta we gotta like this, and that's I think we got too much access right now. Every people got access to you all the time. People access to mean to us all the time. If if I post something and I ain't reply back to a tick, somebody hit me up. Hey you see you see my ticks? You know what I'm saying, Like the access man, we got to cut that off sometime and just disconnect. I think we we as a people, it's just as a race, we gotta learn how to do that, because that's a

formal stress all all in itself. We ain't meant to be contacted and connected and access to all the time. What was we doing before cell phones? You know what I'm saying, Like exactly down now niggers want to be in your bedroom. They want to be on vacation with you. They want to see what you eat, and like, I cannot get with that ship at all. And it's if somebody has had to wait till you got home to talk to you. Yeah, you feel me or talk to Yeah,

that's true. Now you got talking people on the iPhone, you can get into your thoughts. You're thinking all through the day. It's about you. You know what I'm saying. You get home, but you you're taking on somebody problems like this way. You know what I mean from a relationship standpoint. Man, Think about how many people's grandmothers and grandfathers didn't have to deal with some of the stuff that we was dealing with. It Like you could tell somebody like, hey, I'm gonna be gone, I gotta go

to I'm saying Memphis for the weekend. I'll be back in seven days now, Like it's easier to cheat waiting. Wait a minute, now, take this, take this picture with you. Nigga could not face time person I'm just saying you have to worry about somebody like looking at your story or you know what I'm saying, like looking at looking at your sunglasses when you take a picture to see

back there? Who took that picture? Right there? I know once I'm really called it, Nicku, I was dealing with doing something he wasn't supposed to because I saw in his sunglasses a bit in the background. I was like, hello, that's a bit in a bathing suit. With the follow through and with the iPhone, don't mess and running do those live photos. You can hit like hit play a little bit, hands but shi in the background right quick?

You can hear the background. Be careful. Now you can see somebody's location if you got the wrong settings on your phone, right wherever they be. Yeah, you can go through and see all the places that they've been. How don't try to know, ben, I need to make sure on my phone or had that type of stuff on it. Oh no, with these air tags. Have y'all seen that. That's a new thing too. That's like, Yeah, people follow

you home and stuff like that. They can put it, slip it in your pocket and you don't even know it was came on my phone at tag, I stopped the car, got up on the car making shot and the man, that's crazy, it's getting crazy. He's did crazy out here. Even the headphones. I was with somebody who I don't have, like the pods, the and they connected to my phone connected and so they was here in

your conversation, not like connected in that way. Like the map popped up on my phone showing where the headphones was at, Like I didn't set that up. So how did all this access? I just you know what I mean. It could be used for for good and bad. So you know, I don't even want to go to Machgo no more. Man, everybody makes go posting it. I just want to and I just want people to go somewhere that good time and go to the Caribbean islands, go where black people at well, go with good black people

know your people. So so we have a segment on our show called SIMP Series and are a dumb bit story And it's basically where you share a time that you got played by the opposite sex. Can y'all share a story? And please don't do it? Every time we have a guy, they always be like, yeah, when I was in the ninth grade. This girl did this like no tell us a story adult story at a time where like, damn, I can't believe she did me like that. Oh I ain't, y'all, don't just play that. Ain't no

ego ship or nothing like that. It's just, you know, I've just eve been playing It's too I'm too cool, man. I don't get played that ninth grade was the last time you got the ninth grade? That's it. I played myself. You see what I'm saying. Tell us by the time you played yourself, right, But now I didn't know. I ain't. I can't even be thinking no time like that that I got played neither. You played for a girl to fly out somewhere and then she kind of ran off

with somebody else nothing, you know what. I might have had one time where uh, it kind of goes two ways that at one time it was like last minute we was taking the trip, I end up flying somebody out of randomly. Um, we get out there and I wasn't hearing from where she. I think she might have, you know what, connected with somebody else. Really cool. I think we got into like a little back and forth before she flew out, and so I really wasn't tripping

about it. But it worked for me because I met somebody while I was out there, and you know, right off the rip and things you know, fell in place, So I don't really apply. Yeah, so you make up some ship. Nah, I ain't really interesting. I mean, I could have been getting played and just didn't know it. But I ain't looking for nothing. I ain't. I ain't. I'm not. I ain't looking for that. I'm sure I've gotten played, you feel me, But I just don't know

everybody everybody that got played. If you ain't know it, yeah, I ain't. I ain't trying to be that invested to the wall. What's your sign sagittariums? Okay, yeah, terrorists sagittarist that's I was thinking. You know, there's good people, Yeah, for sure, as long as y'all are saying a query, that's be good. They all never got played. Okay, we're gonna leave that one alone. It's hard to get me

to tell a story when they're on the show. Honestly, women, what kind of what those games you got for that ship? That's the only game we got. I guess you gotta come up with some games like well, yeah, I gotta come up with turn well, tell everybody where to find you, Huskies everything. Yeah, PRM we got some gear coming out, some merch coming out. It's already on, it's already out with the PRM released something first. So if you you know like the caps, it's about pr caps we've got. Uh,

we're practicing like lux comfort. So same ship we wear every day on day to day, trying to build our empire, your dig and we help you add that to your lifestylele so kind of work. E G. And M. C R bar you can check this album. Come to Nashville's on History Rejection Street. Uh you know we bought the building, historic building. Uh you know, slaves building slaves put the bricks up. Feeling me so, um, that's what the architect for the state Capitol he lived in that in the

actual building that we purchased. E G. M C educated give the Melanati creators. I'm proud of y'all. Yeah, proud of y'all. From the INCA Gallery, Nashville, Memphis, Tennessee. Um Stimmer, Huskies man, you can find us. We out we out here somewhere so where at right now? That's your art gallery. Yeah, that's the art gallery. Buckand Street. We're in the neighborhood right now, North Nashville. Y'all hiring. Let the people know if you're hiring or not. We always hired. Yeah, as

long as we keep going, were hiring for sure people. Okay, I got one more question. What's the last book you read? Like that? Um? Last book I read? I'm currently listening to uh shooting the last book I read with Danny Meyers see it at the table. That was it? Well, I didn't read it. I started reading. That's like, man, I can't keep stopping and going back. So I listened to it. So I've been on audiobooks real heavy. Um,

So that's that was the last book that I completed. Yeah, yeah, saving me more actually got me this book The Time of America by Steve Stout. Reading that just talks about you know, the power of of you know, African American culture and the marketing of you know, things within our country. And it was a great book. But I'm also I like to just kind of continue to educate myself on different things. We're jumping into a lot of different sectors of business, want being the music industry, and so I'm

kind of reading books right now. Music publishing. So I was trying to continue to educate, don't get more knowledge. That's my thing about a lot of people. I care about it or take a liking too. Books. So y'all do audibles. I got a log in for that. Got a lot of books in there. If y'all want it. Yeah, I know. I Um I saw audible start. I'm gonna start jumping in that. Yeah, that's that's how That's how I think. Man. We we like to to be on the same page, you know, and always being curious. That's

the reason why we asked that question. And e g. What's the last book you read? Because you know, a curious mind, you want somebody that's curious you want And that's and that comes from Howard shows uh from Starbucks. Uh, you know he hiring somebody. What's the last book? So hiring people, relationships, all that type of stuff. Make somebody to read and read the same books too. If you're working on something together, like read the same book and

on the same page. Mentally, you know, I'm saying, learn together. Yeah, that's something that we did at beginning for sure and still do so m hmm. Thank you all for coming on. Man, we really appreciate you'all for Yeah, glad you like it. If you enjoyed this episode, please tune in every Thursday on the I Heart Radio Apple wherever the fun you get your podcast that this is your co host AJ

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