It's hard if this is your first conspiracy. So where are you at just in terms of conspiracies in general? Like, um, what conspiracy do you work with? A J? A J Is my co host. She's basically saying, she's basically saying that most you here is about conspiracies is from me. What she's saying, No, no, I know she hears about. I want to know which one do you believe in? Though? Right? Which one do you be like? Oh yeah, yeah, no, this one right here is real like the rest of
that ship. No, no, no, but I fox with which one? Do you hear that? You like? You know what? I can see this? I can't really think of none of that ship right now? All right, let me ask you this. Do you think that nineteam motherfucker's with turbans and butter knives hijacked four planes and crashed them into two buildings, two buildings, causing three buildings to fall. It's possible. Come on, wait, wait, it's possible. It's possible. It's possible that it's not true,
but it's possible that it is. Did you hear how he asked the question, Yeah, I did, right, So hold on, now, do you know how they found out the identity of those people. No, all right, so they found the passports. Through all the rubble, all the fire, all the debris everything, they found those passports. Does that make any sense? No? But I'm sure maybe there were other passports that were
found too. Right. So remember so here what he said, Uh, two planes crashed in the two separate buildings, right, the buildings that are made of steel and concrete and brick and all of this indestructible material. All of that ship burned up. And yet in the debris they found two paper passports. A paper passport. You get what I'm saying. That makes sense to you. I hear what you're saying. But I'm sure that other ship did not burn. That
was paper on that plane. But how would But if they found thirty passports, how would they pick just the two to know that those were the two on the plane. Maybe there are some other intail that went into that to narrow it down. Can I ask you a question? As a matter fac I don't even got to ask you a question. You buy your phone or your computer. Yes, go on Google and type in um. Just go on Google and type and picture of birds flying into a plane and look at what that plane looks like from
birds flying into it? And then you tell me if those planes could take down buildings? All right? So, um, one of the things that we so we see planes and they look like these big giant metal tubes, right, but in real life planes I really really like especially the nose. The nose of the plane is soft as ship. To get what I'm saying, Like that made from aluminum. Um, anybody like you drink coke cans, I mean you drink cancer this ship? Right, you know how a pliable aluminium is.
Want you to think about, um, how soft that ship is. And the architect of the buildings, um the Twin Towers, said that he literally designed the buildings to withstand planes crashing into it. And so what we saw on that day, right, we saw two planes crash into two separate buildings. And these buildings fail at free fall speed. I don't know. So when I say free fall speed, I wanted to
think of it like this. Um, think about if you drop something like you got your phone, whatever you drop it, it drops with no resistance, right versus you going to the ground yourself where you gotta collapse your legs and then you kind of topple over a little bit. Those buildings fell as if think was underneath them. You get what I'm saying. They failed at free fall speed, the speed at which something drops just out of that sky. Right,
that's physically impossible. Right, So there were things that happened during that day that defied the laws of physics. Right. And there have been many times when planes have hit buildings. This is the first time in history that a building fell because of plane hit it. Right. There has only been two times in history that called that that a building failed because the plane hit it, and both one
was nine eleven. See what I'm saying. So there's a lot of statistical do you So, what do you feel like happens into the right, So right now we're just talking science. I don't when we got into the real ship. Right.
So what happened and what you can see and what the witnesses say on that day, because there are lots of people who were there who survived, people who are actually in the buildings, right, and all of them to a man say we heard explosion, right, um, and the buildings start to pancake, right, So they were boom boom boom, boom boom. Right, So the buildings were laced with explosives, right, and so they exploded the cores of the buildings. I
don't even so. One of the most iconic photos that you see in the Twin Towers is of like one of these still beams and then one of the beams is cut like this. You know what I'm saying. It's like a little slat cut on it. So that's how demolition crews wired buildings with thurmite. They wrapped these thrmite wires around and steal columns because when it explodes, the they went the beam to slide off if they if it's like this and then it explodes, it's not going nowhere.
So they wire it on a slant so that us it burns through the still being it slides off. And so that's why when you go back and look at some of the pictures of the beginning of the beings sticking up, you're seeing with this little slant. It is because that's how they were white with thurmite. So they put bombs in the building. Third light around the cores exploded them. Use what you saw as a plane, because we ain't even got to the fact that there were
no planes or not a letter again. That's next level ship. That's next level ship. Right us again, hold on, you give your speedball it again? Use again. Now I know some damn planes. It's real people died on on planes. Real people. You wait, wait wait, wait, wait wait wait, I don't want to get too fast. Hold on. So what happened was, um, it was explosions in the building. Um that they used what you saw as a plane
going into it. Um, explosion goes off and then the buildings collapse apps due to the thermite on the core, like on the still beams. Right. So that's what happened, right. What we were given after that was the propaganda around the event. Right. Every video that we have of the event shows the planes because it all comes from the same people that put it on. Right. Um, there are a few independent videos that got out right, um, and you can see an explosion happened, but ain't no fucking plane.
It's like, yeah, where the fund is the plane? Right, because this wasn't one of their videos. All the videos that we have on nine eleven came from the people that orchestrated the ship. Right. All the way, it looks like it's just a random camera on the street that somehow magically caught the fucking um plane that was there. Right, All those people, that's that. All the interviews of people that you saw on the street who say, oh I saw the plane that was them, those are all people
in on the ship. You know what I'm saying. Oh oh, it gets deep in this mother. I'm trying to tell you, right, um so um. The reality is that there there's lots of video that exists where you don't see fucking planes. All you see is an explosion and then later on you see the buildings fall, so you you feel like none of the people that were said to have died in the plane crash are real people. All right? Before you answer that one, now, you gotta get to why
it happens so that she can understand why. Uh you you're saying that there are no people and no planes. You gotta get to why it happened. That's the important part. And hold on before you respond, um chop, I'm actually the one meeting you because you got y'all can hear that in the background when I when I meet him, is silent, but it's like you can hear like an air. So you know, whenever you want to talk on mute, so then we could just have like the little piece
of the background noise. Other than that, you sound clear, but we can hear like a little buzz in the back. Yes, oh yeah, that's better. Yes, okay, we got the closing
the door, all right. So so what I was saying was, um, you gotta get to why it happened, Like you'll have to look up who Donald Ramsfeld is and how I think it was twenty eight trillion dollars that was on accounting for um and the United States government came out the day before on September ten, came out the day before and was talking about all the money that they couldn't account for. And what Lennelle is saying to you, like two planes took down three buildings. He didn't explain
what the third building was. So everybody knows about the twin towers going down, but a lot of people don't know that Building seven was the financial building that had the financial records. So you got the government coming out saying, hey, twenty eight trillion dollars is missing, uh, the and people wanting answers for it the next day. This tragic event
happens to where it occupies the minds of everybody. The financial building goes down to where even if you know you did want to come out as people and say, yo, we demand to know what happened to twenty eight trillion dollars. Well, we don't know what happened to it because the building that the information was stored in is no longer there. Then you gotta get to the war, the weapons of mass destruction that were never found. You gotta get to the to the um opioid crisis that the world is
currently going through. You gotta get to the poppy fields that are n Iraq. You gotta get to the museums and the artifacts that were stolen. You gotta get to you know, UM cern and the lhc over in Switzerland, like it's so much ship that transpired, as you know, UM nine eleven exactly. Then you would have to get to the Patriot Act and how they're able to spy on you, Like it's so much ship that a lot of these conspiracies, the way they work is not it's not simple. It's not like hey, I can say hey,
nine level and it's cut and dry. You have to talk about one conspiracy that's like a ten step thing to get to the next part of the conspiracy. That's another ten steps. And some people they just want everything microwave and they want it, you know, uh, quickly given to them so they can easily digest it. That Unfortunately,
it's just not how it works. So unfortunately, with this nine eleven thing, like you got to talk about so many different things and so many different steps that happened and that you know are happening now as a result of that, that is kind of hard to just give you everything in you know, two minutes, you get what I'm saying. So before we even get to the planes and c G I and no people, we got to
talk about all of those little things. Well it sounds like big things that don't sound like little things, And there's some big things you're saying, which you know, I feel like it's possible. All these things you're saying are are very possible. And now you know, I don't believe that our our government is just like you know, righteous and everything that they tell us. You know, obviously otherwise
we wouldn't even be here. Let me ask you this, um so, and I want to go to something more in your wheelhouse, right, UM, do you believe that, um the hip Our industry is controlled by corporations. Yes, okay, Yo, that's a great place to start because now we're talking about yo. All right, so how now how did that? Why do they control? What's the purpose of the control? When hip hop? They want us dead? That's what I'm
starting to believe right now. They want black people to be annihilated because why are they Why are they letting us put out this dark as music. It's okay for us to just make this violent music towards each other and music that degrades black women. And they're like, yeah, that's good, that's good stuff. Let's promote that to these black people, to all people. So I agree there, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, go with that right um. And so that's a good
place to start. So the reason I ask you about nine eleven like I would ask you about jfk Um and I think for you because it's something that I think because you're in the industry, right, this kind of hits closer, right, Um, how old are you? We're having a good time? So no, all right, okay, I got you,
I got you. I'm trying to figure out are you old enough to where you can recognize the transition um from music, the musical content, the musical sound, from where it was when it was kind of when it was authentic, when even though we didn't control the business side, we controlled the art that came out right where the industry there was a lot of balance in the music right where it wasn't all bullshit. It wasn't no bullshit, right.
So a lot of mother fuckers like to romantic size um or the old days, like it wasn't no bullshit, No, no, no, it wasn't the fact that it wasn't no bullshit. It's just that it was balanced, right. And so just as much good ship you had bad ship, you had ship in the middle, like it was a ride variety of fucking music, right, And so slowly there's been this transition from balanced music coming from the culture to music that's out that doesn't represent who we are, you know, Like,
are you old enough to see that? I feel like the the music still is like that, there's good ship and there's bad ship, but the good ship don't get promoted like the bad ship. There's a lot of people making good quality, positive music, but we just don't get to hear. That's what I'm talking when I say I'm talking about the ship now. I wanted to add that even though these people are monopolizing and making money off of the music that we are producing, let us not
forget that we are producing the music. So what if we stopped producing the music, but they'd be able to take advantage and make money off of it, they wouldn't be able to. So it also comes with the community as a collective being complicit on the bad murder music making. Let's be clear, That's what I'm gonna say. Um yeah, so I agree that we're definitely making the music. However, and every fucking community, it's always sellouts, and there's always
people willing to do anything right. And what we're seeing are those people, right, Um, the people who because a lot of them. So there are some who recognize that what they're doing is bullshit and that it's part of the agenda, and they're like, yeah, I'm here for it as long as I get paid. I'm looking at me.
There are lots of people like that, right. Then there are some people who they see, all right, well I just want to be famous, I just want to be rich, so I'll just do whatever it takes to get rich, right And so, um, the people that are doing this capitalize off those two groups of people, right, And so what I wanna and so I want to take this right, take that thought process where you have this this group of people who promote because like you said, Tam, right there,
good music is made. However it's not promoted. We don't have access to it. It's not on the radio, it's not on the TV. Those artists aren't given the platform to put out music that has quality content, quality sound. Right, that doesn't take you into it into your lower chakras. Right, that that's not being given to us because the avenues about which music gets to us or about which any media gets to us is contrained. I'm saying, we're getting to the point where the Internet, this wide open that's
fucking Internet, is getting controlled. Right. They've been trying to put forth bills to control the Internet where they can either um speed up or slow down the speeds of what you connect, right, depending on which website you go to and what service you got. Like they're trying they're literally trying to control what you can cert like, what you can see on the internot or um what you
have access to. And let me give an example of that like say first like like TikTok right now, my zip cold to nine zero seven, My TikTok may look this way, your zip colde, your TikTok is gonna look another way. Like they literally, uh, they basically market program exactly. It's programming. So China, their TikTok is totally different. They don't, right, That's what I saw that. I saw that they promote like education, happy things, good things, right, beautiful thing aith
on the music, on the music part of things. How an easy way for you to see how music, how music is controlled. Are you a little baby fan? Tammy? All right? So you know that throughout little babies existence, he only made one song uh that uh that brought together generations and that spoke about topics that are taboo in his lane a rap like he's not drill rap, but he's not um uh what's the word rap? He's not conscious rap, but he's not also not drill rap.
He's in his own little little lane. It's so when he made the song The Bigger Picture. You remember that song, it's bigger than black. You want to know why he never made another song like the Bigger Picture because the label came to him and said we're not doing this. They it was a single, they delisted it from being a single, which I've never heard happening. You still find it on streaming services, but it came out as a single and they refused to let that be the single
for the album that was coming out. So things as little as that where you got a rapper that you know, um, I was born at eighty nine, So you got a rapper that's influential on my age group, the age group before me, and definitely the age group under me, and
as well as the age group under them. Like he transcedes generations because he's like this, he's that generation's uh, I guess you could call him that generation is jay Z not comparing it too, but as far as influence and as far as rapping ability, he's that generation jay Z. The fact that he made a song like that and the label said no, we're not doing this, but that song was so big that alone tells you that that that's going against the agenda that they want to push.
That makes sense, right, So now all you here is you know all this bang bang shoot them up shit if they the ops go do that? You hear the City Girls ship like you hear a bunch of ship that's destructive to the younger and quessionable generation. You get what I'm saying. And you know, you've got people like Kanye that to come out and he'll tell you, like yo, the reason music is the way it is is because of the eight O weights and what they did to it.
They pretty much demonized it to where controls your lower chakra. And you get what I'm saying. He was just talking about energy in the first Drink Champs interview. Kanye dropped a lot of gems in that first Drink Champs interview as far as what's going on with the industry, and a lot of people overlooked it because of the slick ship that he was saying. But if you go re listen to that, you'll see, like yo, everything he was talking about music is exactly what's playing out now. And
you know people are still oblivious to that. So and you know there, oh sorry, So I feel like, um, I don't know, maybe two years ago, I swear to god, I read an article that was saying that Avid Avid that makes pro tools that was created by the government, and I can't find that article nowhere. So they take up exactly so y'all took away the acoustic instruments. A y'all let it literally put the devil into this fucking program.
And this is what nigga now pro tools. Yeah. So, um, have y'all heard about when I know you're seeing articles and they talked about the meetings that were had in hip hop sex um, like the people who control like the prisons and the liquor companies and clothing companies met with like the music exex you know. Actually talked to somebody who was in one of those meetings and he told me, he told me exactly what then they were talking about, and it was a weed out session, he
said pretty much. They came in right, they invited all these influence people do uh into the music because it wasn't just one meeting. There was like a series of meetings that they were holding around the country, right to get all the influence influence with people in right, and so they were weeding people out. So they said, Yo, this is what we're gonna do, and anybody who objected was never invited back to another meeting and they were
subsequently ushered out the music industry. Right. So um, now I want to take that all, right, Tammy. I'm sorry, Tamba. All right, so I want to so I want you to take that process, right, that that thought process. What we understand, we can agree that Um, at some point in time, some people came together for the purpose of controlling the music industry to for an agenda, right, Um, And what we see it looks like the agenda to destroy what we would consider a healthy black community, right
because we see it directed at us. Right. We don't see this um directed at right exactly. So they want to destabilize um so that they can control us as a people. Okay, So, UM, that same thing happens in other industries. Right, It's not just in music, right, it's a that they copy and paste the same format, the same strategies in different sectors. Right. They control every sect of human activity. Right. So this even goes to science. Right,
this even goes to your doctor. Right. So we haven't so when you start looking at why medicine is the way it is, why they don't cure anything anymore. They used to cure stuff, right. They used to They used to go to the doctor and they'll be like, now you take this, take this, you're cured. Right. They used to use natural stuff. To cure you. The medicine they gave you didn't make you sicker or didn't have all these different side effects. Right. That's gone right because that
industry was controlled. It was taken over by what we now call we have allopathic medicine. Right there used to be homeopathic, natural pathic, you know what I'm saying, medicine. They used to have these doctors right who used herbs and tonics and things of that nature that was natural. They got ran out the business, they got qualified, meaning they the media was used to label these people as quacks.
Politicians then came in putting on laws to make you say, all right, in order to practice medicine or to cure people, you have to be part of this system. Right. So they systemize everything. Right. You've got the music industry, right, that's a system, the medical industry, that's a system. Right. So everything has a system to it, including science, okay, and the things that you see right that are science, right, um, do not are not really science for the most part.
And so what they'll do is they'll take something that's actual science and then mix it with some pseudo science. Pseudo science all right. So there's there's two different things. Is that the two different methods of science. You have
science which can pours to the scientific method. At the crux of the scientific method is things that you can um that observable, testable, and repeatable, right, meaning that we can do an experiment, right, we come up with an outcome, and then I can tell you what I did, and then you can go without me, get your own materials, redo the same experiment, and get the same thing I got. Right. That's a scientific method, right, that's perfect. I love that ship. Right.
Pseudo science is when you already have the outcome you want and then you construct a narrative, right, or an experiment or thought process to get you to the to the the end already. And so what people call science, um is really pseudo science. Right. A lot of the things that we see and we think are science scientific are really masquerading as science, but they're really pseudo science.
One of the things, and I guess to the topic of what we're talking about here are the pictures of the earth that you see, right, None of those are actual photographs throughout images, right, And I can give you an image of anything. I have an image of two crabs playing poker. Right, does that make it does that mean that it really happened. No, it could have happened. I did get crab with a knife like trying did
die too, I don't care. Yeah, yeah, he's trying to fight back, so they might know how to play space. I don't know.
