Ep 83 "Menoplause"

an actor. She's a producer and motivational speaker who has been featured on HBOS, That Damn Michael Chi Show, Time, nar Change. Sorry, I told you I care read. Listen. The listeners know, they know, they know my heart at all right Heart having Hearts, l A Network, and more. And she currently has um a new special mental Clause on all your favorite streaming sad Yes, yeah, give her a proper auction, honey, thank you for joining us, girl.

We want to talk about everything you've done, especially mental Clause. I watched it and I laughed my ass off. I was high as hell, and I watched it and it was so good. I want we have so many questions for you about the one hour special, but first we want to talk to each other about We always start our show with talking to each other about our weekend. So how was your weekend, this past weekly, this past well, today is what saturday? You mean last weekend? Last weekend past?

It's Tuesday. My birthday was on Friday. That's why I turned up. I don't know where, thank you, I don't know where I am. I just stopped ringing a few days ago and got back to work yesterday, you know, Monday. Comment like, all right, all right, enough of this, back to being a freshman woman. So last weekend, this past weekend was great. I was in I live in New York. That was mine. I was with my guy, you know,

having a wonderful, loving, peaceful birthday. And then I had shows a lot of shows over the weekend in New York. So I had a great, a great, blessed, healthy, loving weekend. That's congratulations, heavy birthday, guy, yo, My man, my man. J Well, how about your weekend? Girl? She'll be lying, she'd be lying every week to be in my business, Like I don't feel like explaining ship to X or explaining ship to somebody who think they my boyfriend. Like, I just don't feel what the hell you? What the

hell you did? You got to explain to any man? What what you do? You gotta explain ship? Girl? And I did a lot of water, water, water, want man over here? Watermelon. Well, I didn't do ship this weekend, y'all. I didn't. I really didn't do nothing. I stayed in the house. I had been drinking all the whole month of July, Like I swear, I drank the whole in time. It was my birthday, July sixteen, and that's where I

drank the whole fucking month. I just needed the talk to My level was hurt, and I was like, I'm just gonna drink water at home and watch shows. Being at home is the best, though sometimes something I remember being home coming after work on a Friday night and being in my pajamas, are not showering until Monday morning.

Those are the best weekends where you don't do nothing. Literally, Yeah, no, I don't know about letting my coaches thank all week about staking if you are if you are almost naked for two days, the vagina is getting a lot of air, not around anybody activity. That's what my sister would do. She'd come home from work Friday and only get back in the shower on Sunday selling drugs. That's the type of your drug dealers, dude. We're having a same on Friday to Monday. Let me find out Jackie sells drugs.

Do come? You don't go nowhere? If you don't go nowhere, Okay, Usually Sunday I feel like, okay, I should probably shower, but I haven't. Yeah, exactly, if there be a weekends where I'm like, I don't have anything to do, I don't have any sex to have, I might as well. Why would I clean anything? I might as you be a grown man Monday. Why do you all assume not everybody be funky as hell? I got i'd. I don't sweat much. I'm not a sweater. I sweat a lot.

After after a day, I squad, I'm gonna start smelling my coochie. I got to go ahead and get me down, squat down. I'll be like, oh, let me go get my ass in the smelling During the quarantine, y'all, y'all stay like you know, chilling for a day or two at least a day of not caring about that stuff. Yeah, maybe a day, But after a day, I'll tell you that squad gonna hit me different. After a day, you do get kind of tart. Yeah, but those be the best ones that you have nobody else to worry about.

People watch your shows and get some work done. I love the whole weekend, but not me too, Me too. I enjoyed it. Yeah, let's get in the stupid internet news. What happened this week? Listen? So based on your your your show, let's talk about Mindy Kaling. Mendy Kaling explains why she wishes parents of college women would take them to freeze their eggs instead of giving them regular gifts for graduation from college. Do you think about that. I didn't.

I didn't know that was a thing that's eggreasing. Yeah, and the Underwatch, Mindy is probably saying, I want all young girls to avoid the lights that I've had where I've tried to find someone to help me have a family, And maybe you should take precautions because you know, we still have the mentality of let me wait to find a man to have a even though it's changed now, we still have that mentality and I guess she's like, why don't we change was this way of thinking we've

had for decades and prepare her to have babies whenever she want, with or without a husband. She's a very you know, she's not a millennium at all, but she's very like progressive of today, and today women are freezing everything because they're like, I'm not waiting on a dude, that's what that's what it is. They're like, I'm not waiting on a man. That's the mentality. So my thing is, I do want kids, right, So I'm in my late thirties.

I do want kids, a kid at this point, but I don't want the kid without the husband, like I don't want I want a family. There you go, I don't just want a kid, I want a family. So if I don't get the husband, like I'm not having kids, and I'm okay with that, I wouldn't say I really want a microwave baby. But you never know, you never know. I turned I turned fifty one on Friday, and I'm of the mentality where I'm like, I would yet down, yeah, and I'm like, I don't think I want one. Now.

I've gotten pretty useful life without But if you had caught me like three or four years ago, for five years ago, I would have been like, I'll do what I gotta do to at least have one, Like you're at least one. Can I have one? Small one? Can I get a seven year old? I like seven year old kids. Oh, they're conversations. That's why they can talk exactly. But at nineteen are you thinking about like, for first of all, and freezing your eggs are expensive. It's not

a cheap process. You gotta have some money. And nineteen year olds want boot jobs. They don't want the free day eggs. They don't care about stuff like that. They're gonna spend their money on procedures. They're gonna spend it on some other bullshit that don't really matter, not freezing their eggs. They're not concerned with that. Maybe they should sell some of their eggs. That's what you needed to do. That's that's a comment. Should have been doing that now.

Women sell their men sell the sperm. A lot of nineteen year olds assume I'm going to get married and have at least four or five. That's the way they think. He assumed, And then you hit and then thirty five, and you're like, goddamn it, I'm almost forty and I ain't got nothing, and now I've hat want one. I gotta buy them exactly at least by that time you might have the money on your own to do it, right. I always made jokes I'm gonna buy me a baby next year. Shit, I don't want to like next year.

I don't necessarily want to be pregnant. If I do have a kid, like, I would definitely have me a little microwave baby and love that little come in here a little yeah. Yeah, you know who had Adrian from from that's the talk. What's the other on the real she had a surrog baby baby boy recently. Yeah, it's all on. It's all online now said five years of IVF and struggles and stuff. And you know, I nineteen

is too young. I would say by thirty if you have the financial means, I would say at thirty, at thirty nineteen, don't let go of hope so early, right right, Yeah, I definitely had me a little call that baby, whirlpool, come in a little whirlpool. It's stupid. This is what else happening, all right, listen. So Safari denies being responsible for leaking his sex saves that feature his room with girl Frank uh Cambella mitosmatoes. The person who did this

thing is going to pay, is what he's saying. So the whole Twitter was going wild because they're trying to say his dick is not it after that video. But you know what, I'm me too, girl. He's always in the news for some both what does he do? Isn't he a singer? Like do you want to go make a song? What does he do? He's always online for some bullshit. Nikki's boyfriend, Oh yeah, I did see the video a few years ago of his saw his dick pick video or dick whatever, and I was like, congratulations.

But after that, I don't care about him, right, I'm tired to see them all that. I care more about how his dick is doing and how he's doing and apparently ain't doing it as good as it was before because it don't even look like the same day. And don't like a difference. That beautiful video from before that that was him, I assumed Sam, and it was beautiful. It's a it's a dick gate scandal. Somebody got to a side by side comparison of that video from back

in the day and what's going on now? Because that video back in the day was very impressive. I was proud of him. I might do a Twitter conspiracy video video for that. TikTok compared to Dicks. Yeah, you're like, so worry you did you have an accident? Well, I don't understand what's happening since then? I'm so tired and he's I saw another video he's either freestyling or rapping it on the um Charlot Mans the Breakfast Club. He's wrapping online currently right now, and the guy listening to

him wrap they're not very happy about it. I didn't turn the volume on to hear it because those these freestyle in front of their faces were like because I don't know what he didn't have only fans something. Maybe that'll be his claim to fan again, what else happening to? Oh? Channing Crowder compliments, So what's the name of that show? The Pivot podcast? He said that another black man was beautiful? What's the Denzel Ward? Is that okay for another black

man to call another beautiful? Like it's beautiful? I think it's beautiful. I liked it because you know, I want I want men to get rid of the they can't be vulnerable with women things when it's really your friends you can't be vulnerable with. At what point can't you not just tell your boy man you look good today? Like why no, homo? After that? Exactly? Yeah, they think that. No, I listen. I've heard guys compliment dudes before comedians and comedians.

It's kind of funny. But when regular guys that they they're always worried about this game, and I'm like, no, is he's attractive? You see him? You see what I see? Right? Don't like that? Right? It doesn't mean you want to suck his dick? That you noticed that he's a looking man, right, it doesn't mean no. If that was the case, we'd be second day. I tell so many men all day every day how attractive they are. I don't want to

touch him. I feel like I feel like older men are more capable of saying that another man is good looking. It's the younger ones that are like Paul's. Young guys are like I like that cut dog, I like that sharp that's they'll make it be about what they hair touched, like I like your shirt, I like I like your kicks. They won't say like, you're looking really good today. Dog brown eyes. He was like, man, you got brown eyes. Man, you're beautiful. Man, you're beautiful. You know what I'm thinking.

I think that's that's a man probably acknowledging how much women probably like him. Yeah, these guys pay attention to that. They're like, you probably get mad bitches. They don't say that, but they're thinking that. That's the best they'll do is you probably get mad bitches. That's the way they say that. That's it. That's how they're saying, like, you're attractive, honey, you cut me bitches everywhere. That's how they do it. Um, what's next? Ajor? I wanted to say, R I p

to and hat that was a tragedy. Last week she passed away and it's really weird. Have y'all seen that video online with her popping up out of the body bag on a stretcher. Was real footage. That was real. That was her And I need a fucking ex planation right now. Yeah, Like, are we're just supposed to pretend? Like when you see that? You know? He So this video was released it it was released by a credible source,

um verified account on Twitter news reporter. So they had like the you know, the planes flying over to the scene of the incident where she crashed into someone's garage, big fire. They were saying she was basically dead on the scene initially, and then they said she was in um stable condition at the hospital. But this video I didn't see it until over the weekend, so apparently it was posted on Twitter on the fifth. But it's a video of her zipped up inside of a body bag

and a white body bag, and she pops up. She pops up, and the firefighter pushes her back down and they put her inside of the um ambulance. It really happen, that might happen. Well, first of all, why opened the bag to be like, hey man, you're good? Like to ask her? She cool, like why you just but why did you dip it up in the first place? They assumed she was already dead perhaps, And then she was naked also, so you didn't have any clothes on. You could just see her back was beer. And then they

reported her you know, legally dad on the twelfth of August. Yeah, because the whole like, uh, disconnected life support, that kind of stuff. I've heard of bad bodies moving and passing their bowels and all kind of stuff, and maybe the firefights like look, look they lay down. We already pronounced you dead. While yo, maybe we're done, already to be ready to go to lunch. You sold your little bit. Get out of here. Our shift is over soon. May

Now that was not funny. Yeah, her dad, her dad was magic and sad and your family, but the firefighters reaction. Where the joke come from? Not am I'm sorry it passed away. Yeah, I've always kind of liked her. She's a really good actor. She used to date Ellen. I'm very I'm sorry if she's gone. And I heard what she passed away. She had, he had the Sentinel and some of the drugs. I heard she was drugged up when she life is like did you see it? Did you see the video of her driving down the block?

It was invidence she was. He was doing anabe. You look at your outside your window when your kids playing, and imagine the car doing I hearted past the mailbox on your block. It was like that. But just like that, the black girl who right now is in trouble, the nurse who killed for a couple of weeks ago, and she zoomed at a hundred miles our way, through traffic, and the video looked like that. You just see the

car zooming zooming down like a little alleyway kinda. But act accidents prior though the one who Yeah, that one with mental health issues too as well. Yeah, but thirteen accidents got who How you still got a license? How do you still go home and tell your friends? Hey, another one, They're like, give me the car keys. I literally have a friend like that. I literally have a Yes, she has had so many car accidents. I'm like, now she doesn't drive. Her mom helped her, helped her, her

son get a car, but she can't. She can't drive the car either. Yeah, they had all these accidents. Some people really are They drive and they live their life really like a scared driver. Like some people their license. They drive, but they're like they're scared of the freeway. They're scared of, you know, backing up parking. A lot of people if they drive, but they're not confident drivers. I didn't. You can tell a lot about a person. I think you can tell a lot about a person

about how they drive. One of my ex is used to drive so fucking crazy and that's how he was in real life. And I would be clutching the damn door and pressing the fake breaks the whole time. Why he was driving. Yeah, my my last boyfriend didn't wear a seat belt and he didn't signal when he changed lanes, and he was just a very free for all just getting the car, let's go, and he was working man. But I'm like, I was always sitting next to him, like how you don't care about none of this and

I ain't ready, I'm not I'm not dying. I don't give a you're kicking it. And you know how some guys who drive, they put their arm rest trying, you know, like that's gonna that's not gonna help. Put your hand, put your hand back, and that's not gonna do. You're only gonna get to where you're going on one minute quicker and if that second nothing, Like why are people

like that? Yeah, that's someone who probably take short cuts in life overall, to someone who's like, I don't got time to do it the way you're supposed to, I'm gonna skip around it. And the absolutely right, I don't. I don't have a fear of driving just in the rain and in the dark. That's only like any other time. I'm pretty I'm driving pretty fast, but when it's raining, when it's dark, it's granny for me. Uh, let's go to ammercial, y'all. When we get back, we're gonna get

into Miss Jackie Sauda. All right, all right, y'all. So Miss Jackie Fabulous has just done a one hour special called Menoplause, and uh, it's so funny, y'all. I was high as hell watching it, and I really enjoyed it, and I had a couple of questions about some of the content from this. So I wanted to talk to you about first dating outside of your race. You said, Uh, you wanted to date a white guy. I never have, no, no, my I'm I'm engaged, and he's a very very thorough

black guy. I just I was just I never tried like. I feel bad that when I was out there dating and trying to find whatever it was meant for me, I didn't. I had a very tunnel vision. You gotta be. You know, I'm obsester black dude, But I and the white guy's never hit on me, and I've never had one flirt seriously or really try and make I don't know what it is. I think I'm cute enough I'm fantastic enough, alright, said okay, but they just don't holllight me the way you know black guys. Black guy let

you know, like ay blah blah blah blah. White guys are like conversation forever. But no, they don't actually go to the next level of do you want to go get something to eat? Nothing? Get what was that too? I never have I just that those jokes. It's just about me. I never tried, and I know what to do because I have so many white friends. I know how to connect with them, but I don't really want them. Hopefully you know, I'll never have to try. But they

probably never hallowed because you know, the confidence. I think black men just have a little bit more confidence the usual. Yeah, I think, yeah, I always hear that. But but I'll hang out with a white guy used years ago. We'll hang out tough for for hours, and they will never like cross the line where a black guy will give you about an hour and after that whatever. Yeah, but white guys will go to every movie, a dinner, They'll they'll hang out with you for hours and you're like,

I have a girl, what's going on? You want to do? But they they'll be shy or not. I'm not that type. I don't know what it is, but I wish I had tried more of the world of men before I settled down. Do you think that maybe it's you? Do you think that maybe it's the black men that intimidate them from actually approaching black women, because I remember going to this this bar used to frequent a lot. It was like um, like a top of his little wine bar,

and it was owned by an Egyptian guy. And he told me the reason why he never approached black women is because you know that thing about black men having all this dick That's what and that's what like intimidated him, like he wouldn't be able to please a black woman. First of all, that every black guy gotta is packing as exactly I don't know. I wish. I wish it might be on average, they might have the biggest peace.

On average, most of them more than often, more often than not, they're packing, and by packing I mean above average. But are all of them gonna whip out a big night surprise cable for you? I wish. I've had so many disappointments and I used to be my guy now is is he's six four, so he fulfills the stereotype. When I had tall guys prior to him, where I'm like, you're a big one. It's gonna you know how many tall ones I've been like, what is this? You so tall?

It's a waste of space and air and oxygen, you know, big feet, big My and guy arrested my ex husband. He was six flour Everything about him with gigantic except except what I needed. I cried, but we were together for a long time, boyfriend and girlfriend. He overcompensated the way you have to. But I but I realized when I was with him, I'm like, I probably can't be with this guy forever. At some point I'm either gonna cheat and that's not me, or I'm gonna be really

unhappy and you know, leave him. So you married him knowing that you would no no, no, no x X ex husband he's dead. He passed away and I did. I'm sorry. We were a boyfriend a girlfriend for nine years. I'm not gonna tearing a good man away. If the six the actually good, I'm not gonna turn you away. I've had great sex with guys. It's very mediocre dicks because I think a big day does not necessarily mean you're gonna be like this is amazing. You don't correlate

where big don't mean great checks. There's such thing as like boyfriend dick. Boyfriend Dick is like that nice, good, good size. I can live with this dick forever. You gotta at least to have some boyfriend dick. Right, Yeah, and I or I had plenty of orgasms, so knew what he was doing. He's a very confident man. And you know, if you get a guy with a small one, but he knows what to do to make you happy in every other way, you'll be here. You'll be with them for as long as you can. So you realize

I needed Dick now right, he's gonna cheat. I'm gonna cheat. I left before I cheated. I'm just trying a girl where I'm like, when I start feeling like I want to wander, I'm like, I'll to the karma is too much, I'll leave. I'm like, I gotta break up. I can't be lusting for every guy and meet because you don't get me happy. I'd rather leave you and be alone and try over again. Yeah, me too. I would pay you and jas I've never had no like uh Dick, where I was just like, oh this is small, but

he's so nice. Never know, my husband was a very caretaking, big guy, smart, intelligent, funny, y had He had everything, of course, but what I needed to stay hang in there. We hang in there for ten years. You were both for a dolfriend for a decade, and then we got married. And then I realized I've made a mistake. Shames. I saw you on the Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon. Are you getting married in September? Was that a part of

a joke? No, that's real, But September was not a realistic It was too close to when I right announced it. So November ten there is the date. Hey, what about you? Two? Are in love with anyone? Not you? Interview and the interviewers, what the hell I love? I want to know if y'all in love? To girl? Know, when you're in love, you want everybody to be in love. It's very corny. When you're in you're in love, like everybody being loved, Like me, right, I always want people to be in love.

So no, I'm not. I was engaged over a year ago and I'm no long I'm single now, So I'm not outside for real, but I'm like a little bit outside the door cracked, the door cracked open. I'm on the porch a little bit, sitting on the student who're coming through that type of ship. What she don't but she don't trust you at all, and she's like everything. This girl has a lot everything. I've been single since two thousand sixteen. Okay, I've been single a minute now.

I'm ready for something real. But it just don't seem like realists being available to me. Why, I don't know. I just keep me. I keep liking the wrong type of the guy. Say what are you attracting? Like? What do you want of the choice as you're making? And I'm just lacking the wrong ones. Girl broke, Yeah, but the wrong ones are always so much fun. That's what it is. I'd be having phone phone with these wrong guys names wronger. That's why you're in there. I'm ready

to be right though. I'm ready to when when you are ready and you tell the world the universe you're ready, then you see a difference, right, hopefully. Yeah, you gotta open yourself up for that stuff. Man, I'm always open listen. I like being in love. I like it I like, I like, I like new dates, I like first dates. I like all that ship. I never I look at it a fun girls who freak out guys and girls too about going I'm like going on days with somebody new,

even if you have no plans. But it's fun. You get a meal, you get to drink, you have I think dates are fun, you get to hang out. Because I'm so shure, so I know how to make I know how to make a guy on any day, first day blind, they'd fall in love because I know how to person, because I know how to focused on you know women, what a week, But I know how to flatter the hell out of a guy and get a dick marble conversation game. I took a nick on the on a damn bike ride. Is ass acting like he

love now? R If you give them what they want and be, you know, fun and frolic with them, that'd be like, I want to know you be funny too, Funny. They love funny funny. Get that dick out. That's that's the thing. I don't be wanting the dick out all the time. Just laugh with me. Put your dick away, sir. Oh, that's that's the problem. When you're beautiful and personality and funny, they get they get confused. They're like, this is we're

having a great time. We should be a tumple and you're like, that is not why I'm here, right, go away. So I saw that in your especial you said that you had almost had to go back to work, and he was like, Ship, Oh yeah, yeah, you had left corporate corporate environment ten years, like two thousand, tens, twelve. Yeah. I worked at cal Tech in Pasadena and I left the job because they told me too, and they fired

the crap out of it. And during the during the quarantine, you know, money got tight, and I had all this. I was on tour heavy before they told us we can't go outside. I did a lot of zoom shows and after while, I'm like, I wonder none of us knew. We were all kind of at home, like I don't know what how is my life going to be when it's so in case I can't go back the full time entertainer, let me find I have many skills and

all that. Ship and I had an interview and the lady was like, so you know, what have you been doing to that big gas gap? My resume, and I'm like, uh, the best I can. What I gotta do, what I gotta do, kind of trying to be in the in denial, you know, having a good time, having way too much sex, not focused on work, ma'am. That so you didn't get the job? Assuming No, she was a black lady too, and you. I was making her laugh at the interview, and I'm like, in my head, I was like, she's

having a great time. I ain't gonna get this job. She was kind of like, it's so funny. And I'm like, oh damn it. Skill out now. She's like, you can't work yet, but you know, do nothing right. He was right, I'm alright, go the job to have fun, not to work. Yeah, me too. That's why I don't need to work in Nobody corporate off me. The last time I had a job. Oh my god, I'm sitting like, why the funk am I hair? Why the funk am I hair? Like I knew deep down in my soul this ship is not

for me. Like I know this is not for me. A life of working and ship that is, ship is not for me. You know What's funny to the reason why I really didn't want the job is because it was at the Getty Is it the Getty Museum in l A. And you have you got to park your car in one place and take a train tram to the actual office. Oh and I'm like at the interview, I said to her, so it's my car. Does my car have to stay in the parking complex because I I got to take a train from there to the desk? Scared?

She's like yeah. And my thought was if I can't get to my car for either taking naps, orditions, escaping whatever, we didn't work here, okay, zac, wait, you don't know what I want to do. And she's like, no, the car is kept over there. I'm like in my head, like, bab I can't work here, about to be trapping. I wonder I would have been in my vehicle? Are you ruding by? So that was my saying. I was like, no, no, no cars where nom That means I gotta bear my

desk all time. I don't know. I ain't done that since the nineties. What who did you get into comedy? Oh? That's sound was about to ask her, go ahead, boredom, just for fun, just I worked in some places on in l A. And my girlfriends worked at the job and everyone there was an actor, so I was the only one who was like, what's that? That was the funny ear and they told me try this class. I took a writing class and performed the improv and my friends.

My friends told me to stick with it. To be honest, they were like, you're funny, you just figure this out. So it was that why I did it after work for years until two thousand in town when I got fired, but for fun, no career aspirations. Didn't know you could be doing this. I lives in the Bronx, and you know, when you're from a small town in any state, it's always feels like a small town mentality, like how do

you get out of here to do this? You didn't know you could right for work with no goals, And that's how it turned out to be, like, oh, I could probably make a living in my house with this. Who knew exactly? Yeah, I saw I saw some of your clips from America's Got Talent? How the hell you end up on there? I didn't even know they had comedians on shows like that. Oh yes, how well, living in l A. Everybody everyone in l A entertainment wise,

that had taken the decisions. They know who all the comics are, so when the show came on every year they were like, you want to try now, And for years that was like not my thing out the reality dude. And then finally I was like, I need exposure and I need to work, so let me try. And I

did it. I did it with a whole like that, this just have fun and yeah, because I didn't do it with a whole like I gotta win, because anybody's gonna win against sucking poodles and camels and opera singers and little kids and ship all kind of ship going on. I'm like, who, how would Comedian went over this? That's why I did it to help me get work. That's that's why. That's why I get it. And here we are and here we is. So no, I saw that you said that you moved back to the Bronx back

home and you were living with your mother. That I never intended. I lived in l A with twenty years and when I decided to move back, nothing bad happened. Nobody died, Thank you God. I was just bored. I wasn't booking. I was auditioning like crazy, not getting shipped so I'm like, let me try. It is a change. I moved back to New York October, fully intending to live in l A and New York have that life style,

but COVID was like, what are you doing? So I had to move back into the home that I own in New York with my mom, my mother, and father, the child house I grew up in. And I haven't tried to sign a place until like now, I'm really trying. During I should have moved like when everybody was dying, because the rent was like three bedroom and now they're like three bedroom, five grand. What I will bury my mom, we'll live together, matching plots. I will never move. I'm

not paying my grand rent. So I don't understand what iving to live in New York? What the hell? I know? I know, and I the York right now. People left New York and I left Cali for everywhere else because now you with this, you don't have to live anywhere. You can live wherever you can, where you where you're comfortable, where you're comfortable. So I live in the Bronx because

I just, you know, had to. And now that we're allowed to live our lives again, I'm looking for a place with you know, and I don't know whether I want to buy. There's nothing to buy. If I wanted to buy, ain't nothing, ain't nothing exists. New York State lations got sold up. I know they are. They're investing all and now we can regular folks can't buy, so they want to hold up all these investing properties. It's stuck right now. So my next step in like every

day for me, is a mystery. I have no idea what's gonna happen day to day. You better move to the mecca. You better move to the mecca of Atlanta. There's no room for me. If one's fall apart, it's gonna fall apart. There's no there's nowhere to go there. And I thought about it because I want to be around my people, But I'm like where And the crime on guys, y'all crime stories are making me cry daily. It's terrible. Now, you said, you said you wanted to

do Heroin like living with your mama? Is that like the two grown women in the same house. You know what, you know what it is. I haven't lived at home for twenty years, so my mom don't know. Yes, you don't know me. You don't know that I like Scotch at night and I smoke weed sociality. You don't know any of this. So when I moved back home and she's like, I'm going through the kitchen, She's on the cork and she hears me in the kitchen, and she can tell when I'm pouring kool aid or pouring pepsi

or pouring real ship. She can tell by the sound of the liquid hit the glast that I'm drinking again. And I was like, she finally trying to ask me, like, Jackie, is not even noon. And I'm like, Mommy, I am what I'm a forty eight nine fifty. You're lucky I'm not doing coke in front of you. So you have to realize when you move back home, your family don't know you at all, joint secretly. And my mom's in the bathroom. What's that smell? What's what are you doing?

You smell? You smell smoke. And I'm like, now, your mom is Jamaican, she know what you smell it. And I didn't denying you know what it is. I'm in here watching a TV in my any bitty bedroom. Of course I'm hot, all right. They just gotta escape Okay, so technically how long if you've been doing comedy, then it'll be seventeen years and yeah you've been at this, yeah, I mean at this uh grinding. But in the last since I moved left l A to come to New York, a lot of things I've had on my vision board,

let's have happened. All I did was make a change. Sometimes people gotta package it and try something different. And as I have moved back to New York, the bookings I wasn't getting are happening, the special, the tour and talent one after the other. Because I was in l A and board and like, how can I get my career moved? And then I moved And that's how things are way better now than it used to be. Thank God.

What advice would you have for like some young people, young women, especially because comedy is a male dominated industry, So what advice would you have for young women trying to be out there in the world. You gotta have fixed skin because these comics, whatever race they are, it will say things around you, in front of you and to you. They'll make you be like where is HR? And they're like this your eight? No HR? So you gotta get some six skin, because they're gonna try you,

they're gonna challenge you, they're gonna hit on you. It's all. You're got to be comfortable being a woman who knows who she is and what she wants and and treatment like your colleagues, not like you know, I'm a girl and all these boys be like, hey, we're doing and we're all doing this together. We found and that makes men respect you when you're like, hey, I'm one of y'all, and nobody fucking and nobody who's stealing, and nobody whatever. We in this together. And when they get an idea,

you know. And and I'm one of those where I don't. I don't get this to share a lot. But I'm like, and if you are a woman in comedy and you want to start the business, this whole thing is, you know, don't date comics, don't whatever. I'm like, I'm a woman. I look at these male comics as men first, and then you know, and if you're a ground up you should be able to do date and whatever whoever you want and not have druma. So if you're a female wants to be in the world of comedy, have thick skins.

Know how to make your own decisions. Ignore the opinions and the veterans opinions. It doesn't apply to your life. You know what to take and to apply to you and what to be like as you dog. But this is this is my world, and focus on the funny because you are going to be objectified, discriminated against. All things are gonna happen to you. And if you are want to break down with the first or second or eleventh, you know whatever, You're not gonna make it. You gotta

have thick skin. You gotta be a bad bitch to do this. What about when you happen to have to smack somebody right quick? What do you mean, like literally to smack another comedian? And you know what, for some reason, or maybe I know the reason, I don't attract that kind of attention. I do attract people who are supportive and respectful because I am that way, and people know that. I think they know low key like I'm from the Bronx. I'm not really, I'm not a pussy, but I'm also

I don't but I don't. I don't get challenge. I don't do the challenge, and I'm in this for fun. I want to make money, make you make lay these laughs, by myself, a house, marrying my fiance. I just wanted the simple, you know, luxuries. So nobody's test me because you know, they don't feel like they need to. And

if they did, I'm prepared. Now. You told one joke, and you was like in my twenties and thirties, if someone said, hey, you gotta suck a dick to get ahead, you would have been like, no, I'm a woman of integrity. And then you said, now, well whose though, So my question is have you sucked any dick to get ahead? No one I did. I did fool around with one thinking that it would help, and when it was done, he said, girl, you bet on the wrong horse. I have no power. Damn. He was a friend of mine.

He is a friend. So it wasn't like suck this get a movie. It was somebody who was more advanced than me in this world. And we were friends and hanging down one thing left to another, and after we over, I'm like, So he was like, I ain't get no help. I can't help any any help with guta himself. This is like a decade ago. But I have never I've never even and I'm not gonna lie. Part of me is like I wish I had been offered. No, won't

even offer me. Now I'm like maybe, I'm like I am wron don't assume that I'm gonna be like, oh, I'm so offended. I'm going to sue you. I'm like, hey, what movie is it? That's what's up. That's why I like, Okay, I don't want to correlate the two. But I've met people with power and I've been you know. Part of me is like, I mean, if we're both single, or we can keep this quiet, you never know. I never have and was like I was open maybe if it was a really good opportunity. But now no one ever,

no one ever hung was at me that way. They know they're gonna get a No, I didn't have one. I had one. I remember he was playing around. He was a producer on some TV show, a popular one, and I was like, hey, watch I had and he gave me your role on it. I'm real quick speaking you row and then he was like I'm like, hey, how about a regular I want to be on it all the time. He's like, well, how about a hand job?

And I'm like he was yeah, I was like, and I said to him, I was like, first of all, I'm not saying no, but I need to sign the contract, get a call time, and actually get the deal done. And then I'll do I'm to give your hands out in the back of this sing car and I leave here and nothing happens. Yeah, I need a contract sign and the agent was involved and closed the deal, and now I'll be like he was a nice creep. He

just asked for a hand job. Hand job, and I was like, the way he asked for all was so like whack. I was like, I could you have some more swaggle with that? I'd have done it. But did he get to a roll? Did he get no? No? No? Nothing? I wrapped. I said no. He was like all right, No,

I was We weren't really serious because we're friends. But even though part of him like five percent like would you no, you know, they definitely with everything going off, and then like I was kidding, that's why, that's why your man don't never want you to have guys guys as friends. Girl. He's so jealous. But I've learned how to maneuver. I know how to get around that. I just lie to him. Now it's easy. I used to

be I used to be an honesty girl. My ex husband, I told him everything in the courtship part in the beginning, when I tell you that all that ship came back and made me in the ass, I adn't tell him nothing. Ever again, I'm like, how was inviting it? Because the first one, when I told him everything, he used it against me in arguments, and that was part of why we got divorced. That that was the part of our demands. So that's yeah, if you not love that, I used

to do that. I don't do that anymore, but you so, But don't assign that to yourself. You probably did it before, but that's like that that was a characteristic of yours. Don't say that. Okay, no I did that, but I've done that. You've done it. Yes, I believe everyone's done it. But in the way they try to make it like women just always throwing up men's vulnerabilities in their faces. It's not true. I've never been a man. I've never been up with a man who didn't you tell them

some ship. In the midst of an argument, they're saying, that's craziest ship back to you, Like, yeah, clay to win the argument, like what I'm living, Like, what about that time where on Friday you came home from work and didn't wash the pussy again to a Monday morning shut up like like my shrong. Yeah, because they love nasty ass like that, like they'd be liking you sweat they wanted from the gym, just nasty exactly down all day. Yeah, yeah, like got watching me. I feel clammy. They wanted girl.

I just I just figure and then I'm not trying whether this is a healthy answer to it. But I just don't tell him my current anymore. It's just I rather not deal with it because I think that most men when they really when the men fall in love, and my opinion, they fall in love really hard. So the idea of you in the past, even even if he's a healthy guy mentally, he's still like so I told this guy when we started getting serious, I'm like, look, whatever I did before you, it's none of your business.

I'm not gonna discuss it. You go hold it against me. If we come across the dude that I whatever in the past, I'm gonna let you know maybe or may not, but it's nothing to do with you and now I got a gang because my last selectionship, he fucking he hated the fact that I had a life before him and during him, and yeah we we didn't. Oh aries both of them aries the arias and the new husband's areas. So they're both a little bit psychoed to me. I I gotta figure that out. I ain't gotta figure it

out yet. Is it okay for him to have female friends? Oh before, I'm not gonna lie my current fiance. He's so fine that I'm a little I probably would be jealous about it. I'm not. I'm I'm not a jealous person where you can't live your life. But he likes to walk around with a tank top. But he's real tall, he's a good looking. But it's a little bit more understanding when they find right. It's when you like, lower your standards for a nigger, and he's still do a

little shit like if you find right. But if you're ugli have friends that are women, I'm like, I'm like, I don't know if that you can have. I gotta know her and be around them. You can't like. And that's another thing I had to change. I had to change how I handle my friendship with men because I prior to him, I was kind of like, I'll do what I want to do, hang out who I want to hang out. But now I really care about this guy's feelings. So my text messages have just gotten appropriate.

Like in the last week, you would go through my phone. You'll be proud of me. You're like, you are really growing up. Now there's no there's no you up. There's no happy birthday, and there's no you had congrass all that with guy that talked before. All good or at least the two. They're too far down to scroll. You can't get him anymore. You'll be like my ex and this nigger was all the way back and my goddamn Facebook two two thousand nine, I don't even know he

existed at the time. Every now then they no snoop and they will ask you questions and I'm like, how the hell where do you get that question from? How do you hope by that? Because they're snooping, but they're two jobs to hide it. Well, they don't hide this and they don't want they don't want you to know that they actually snoop and men snoop them. Look, they looked through all your ship, I said, I see him

over my shoulder. You six floor, I'm five for I'll be on my phone and I can feel your fucking breath right here. And just like trying to look and not look. There's the nosiest. And I'm very good at not being nosy anymore because I feel like when you search a snoop, you find every every time you find a family in Virginia, I don't look until I'm ready

to leave. When I when I when I ready to leave you, I'm going through all your ship looking for a reason, and I'm I don't want to read and find out or look about looking exactly what I'm ready like. I'm like you, I'm like, I'm getting bored with this guy. Let's see what you're doing. I win. I'm the same way I look. I'm a incriminating evidence. How did you

come up with the name? Men? Applause? I was doing a show on Rhode Island and I was having a hot flash on stage sweating and told the audience, Hey, that's how you guys know I may get undressed. Congratulations and you're welcome because I have sweats and this guy in the backside of clapping and I said, why am the hell are you clapping? And he said, I'm giving you men applause. So I said, I am taking that name and not giving you a goddamn doctor man name.

That was nice. So okay. Speaking to women who are like, we're a little bit younger, but we ain't that far from menopause, what is that like? I don't, well, this is my first time probably admitting it, but I haven't had my period now and about well over a year. I think my body is probably in the next phase of life. It's if there's no way to compare it, because there's no comparison. Everybody's body is different. You might have hot flashes, you might have nothing, you might have

vaginal dryness, you might be normal. Thank god, all I have or hot flashes and sweat a little bit. Vagina is still very much And so it's really there's no way to predict what will happen to you? Is it depends on your diet, Like if you're somebody who drinks a lot, you make up when you drink alcohol, it makes it worse. And I keep forgetting, you know, I'll have a glass of wine and then have my name announced and then get on stage and be like, why

but I feel faint? How are you forgetting change? Okay, so it's it's your Your diet helps. They're ways to come to fix it or to manage it. But everyally I'm still learning. I'm new to it, and I know I'm not thinking. I'm not on any kind of drug prescriptions. I don't want to be, so I got to look for the natural remedies. So far, all I'm doing and suffering but playing a natural ways to fix this. You don't do any sufflashes saying I just vitamins and hair pills.

That's it. I need to I need to try hard. I'm not trying because it doesn't happen. You're okay, okay more more more. Honestly, I have lost weight with the sweating all the time, and maybe I'm low key happy with it because I sweat a lot and not in a way where it's gross. But you know, my clothes are looser, so that's where at night under the sheets or whatever, and I'm all it and that's water being lost and the majority is looser. So I think I want to, like wait till i'm down more kep more

found twenty five pounds. I'm gonna I'm gonna look for something until man, I'm I'm gonna put it out. All right, Well, let me tell you, you can't be uh leaving there pussy on clean for the whole weekend. If you sweat like that, you know I really had more clothes, you said, the whole week, every one day. And he don't be showering either. You meet him funking together. That's love right there, That love which one of us think, don't matter. Baby,

we love each other. But you had to go up stopballers time, yall, y'all, we're gonna have to break right quick. When we come back, we're gonna see if Jackie has a dumb bitch story for us. Okay, dumb bitch stories, so because we've all been a dumb bitch at least once or twice, all right, so we have this segment. It's called dumb bit story, and um, it's where you are one of us share time where we got played by a man, typically like where you were a dumb bitch for a guy. Oh god, I don't even Oh

this story is so embarrassing. But I was, I was beyond lived, but I was I was a dumb bitch. Who else dumb. Okay um, I'm trying to figure OTW Can I tell the story and not incriminate who with it? Who who's in the story with me? No? No, he deserves it, but I won't bother I. I went on a trip with a guy and we were all we

were only friends. They do different rooms, and when we got there, he kind of disappeared because he Originally I guess he had let a girl know who lived in the state and he was gonna be there, so he was in this room. I remember I heard him in his room through the wall, sucking the girl and he went there to go that he arranged to visit when he came to the state, and it was just me this being mad, like why would you. We're not a couple, so you ain't gotta do a whole bunch of hiding.

But in his mind it's for him. It was better for him to just be deceitful and hide rather than be like, hey, Jackie, I'm gonna go, but I got this girl waiting for me. I've been like, hey, cool, you know that's how we get down. But I heard them through the wall, fucking I lost my ship, tried to and I heard her sneak out the door that they were adjoining rooms, and I opened the hotel room door with the intention of going out there to kill her,

to murder her, him, everyone on that floor. But you know that you know that that the wall locked on the hotel door, that you don't move it aside you came open the door. I was like, when I had that lockday, I was too mad to move the lock open. So the rest of the weekend I was like, you are a piece of ship. But I but I'm a dumb I should not have gone because I'm lying in that I had feelings for this guy. I lied to

him to I didn't. I wanted to go on this trip and make it a romantic knowing god fully well he cannot do that, does not want to. But I went on this trip thinking that he would change and we've become this couple, or at least couple for the weekend. But instead we went got on a plane, went to the state. He found the girl fun through in the adjoining room. I heard the whole thing. I tried to kill him and her. He was like, why are you mad?

And from that point on, I was kind of like realizing that was my that was my last, real, real, real dumb bitch moment, and that was only it might have been five years ago, it wasn't that long ago. See, that was my dumb bitch moment. Get on an airplane with a guy who did not want me picking He went when we got there, that's dumb. And then you know, that was my last example of extra dumb bitch behavior. So were you and this guy intimate at all before

you wanted this trip? We were buddies, Okay, that's what I wanted to ye like, I was trying understand what it feeling it right back, and we were buddy for a long time, reliable blood funk by the friendship first fucking every now and then. So we had this trip and I'm like, well, we're gonna go on the trip and be this fi, gonna our lives away and have a great time. But he was like, I'm a boat on this trip. I'm don't suck you too. I'm gonna suck her and I'm gonna su her. I'm gonna find her.

He had y'all fu on the trip at all. No, no, no, it was complete drama. Me like I want I wish he would die. It was the worst. Well, I feel like he was wrong. Why would if you having titches to fund somebody else, don't bring your funk buddy, Like I feel like he was wrong for that. He was wrong, he was I was wrong, I was dumb, and he was wrong. It was all a cluster from the beginning. Then the whole thing wasn't mess. You know, I should have realized, Jackie, this guy is fun buddy in l A.

Leave him there. Don't get on the airplane with the fun buddy because there's no commitment. There's no respect, you know, when we get there and then to have the talk. We're buddies. You don't really have to have a talk your buddies. But I realized you gotta have a talk with everybody had over communications. How you have success in romance, commitment, sexual only you know, fun buddy friend, You gotta have communication so you know where you're so you're on the

same page. Right, So y'all, y'all did go like on this trip, right? You ain't pay for the hotel room for him to yeah, okay, okay, so it was a work trip, so we we earned money while we were there. Be there. Okay, that's kind. But but I chose him because I was the headliner, thinking, okay, I'll bring him. He's amazingly funny, but he's a print, so that's okay. Yeah, you out the show my nigga stage. No, he did the show. He was mediover because he was an asshole.

The owner was like, your friend, he's has attitude and he's not a really nice guy, but he's funny and that's all that matters. But it's over. I learned from that point on. I ain't talked to him or seeing them pretty much since then. It's kind of, you know, severed our friendship, but we're not cool anymore because of that, And I'm like, why did he suck it out? He was going so well, that's what That's why I'm more mad.

I'm more mad that we had a cool fuck buddy thing and it was fun for years and had my reason to end, but because he's a dick, it ended. Let me tell you why I ended, Because you wouldn't like with your fiance right now if you were still sucking your fun buddy. Oh look at you. That's Jesus, that's great. You're right. I believe you. If I didn't have to learn to let that guy go through painful experiences, I wouldn't be like, Okay, maybe I'm ready for actual

respect and love now. And now you gotta go through a lot of frogs to get your care. Have to. We'll choosing you don't have to be sometimes you gotta learn, get the rough lesson. You gotta go. You feel that's so good sometimes, ain't it the hurt? We feel it's so good, So gus the pain. And then and you know why, I'm gonna be real with you, because I'm all about truth now. I did him again after that weekend. I know you did, We know you did. We we knew.

It's never the dumbest story is never over. And at the end of the store, etcetera, like like, you give y'all some dumb bitch grace then. But I don't feel any shame, really, I was kind of like, hey, I was making decisions based on my I believe that you make potensions based on where you are self esteem wives in your life period. I always said that that felt low and hungry and thirsty, and I'm like, whatever, please anything, And I picked him because I was there. I would

never I wouldn't consider it now at all. But you want you date where you are, exactly where you are whatever date means to you. You date where you are. Yeah. Yeah, And when you're feeling like you the ship, niggas can never see your pussy. No, y'all, just get a migrator. I don't even want to be hugging When I feel like I'm the ship. I'm like, Hey, let's pumping outright, monkey playing back. That's why I was selling niggas all we can anything. You can try to damp me or

hug me monkey pox. Hey, that's all I got for you. Yeah, you can't even touch my elbow, nigga. If you want to keep a cold like many salute, but don't touch me. Don't touch me. Don't touch me. Jab Tell everybody where they can find your one hour special and everything that you're doing. Go to my website at Jackie Fabulous dot com. Allegation like like Comedy Special, Menoplause and comedy album is

also called Menopause, said both out on my website. You can get it everywhere, So go to Jackie Capulous dot com. It will lead you to the world of me. My next show days coming up, uh the album the Special. I'll be at the DC Comedy law. It's my first or the third, and that's really it. I had fun later. I rarely get to do these with black women. I miss you white always want me on the podcast. I want more podcasts like that. Ye come back then that

wants some black people. Oh yeah, and she's at Jackie Fabulous on Instagram. I don't know if you told everything. Yeah, y'all follow y'all yep, yep, yep. Yeah. You ever coming down to Charlotte or Charleston. We need to come see I did. I did the Comedy House before COVID. Is that South Caroline? That's Columbia, South Carolina. Yeah, yeah, I was there, but I'm I'm touring. The tour days are coming up because you know, the special or whatever and things come up in the future, so I'll be on

tour more. But I want the South and black folks. I've been doing more of that and I love it and I want more. So Yeah, because they're gonna have it. They're gonna have a grill outside the comedy house with the ship and chicken. That was fine. I loved it that when I was there, so I look more to more. Yeah, we appreciate you. Come back and see us. Okay, lad you think you had a great time, a lot of honest discussion, and I hope I was get in trouble

after all this. Yeah, just tell your nigga, don't listen to this episode. Nothing. I'd be like he'd been like working on I'm like nowhere. I don't like nowhere nowhere. I'm in front of you right now. My next nigger gotta be able to deal with this ship. Listen, I explaining a motherfucking thing. Okay, you know what my guys now he's done on social media. That's why I'm marrying him. You know you don't, but you don't like all this stuff When you got a guy was like I don't

do that. I'm like, oh, I mean couple now, But then I don't like people who don't have a blue like a little footprint online. Now I need to be able to see what the funk you got going on? How you interact a little bit it somebody. Some people really don't want to do it, though, And when I meet that, I get it. I understand why, Like I kind of respect that I can't do it now, but you know when because you know, if I'm if I'm jealous and he's fine Instagram, right, keep it real facts, okay,

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