Ep. 58 "Saint or Sinner" with Angela Lewis

What did I do this weekend? I feel like, Oh, I went to the Anti Fast. It was Monica Eskate here is genuine. Uh, you ain't telling me about Agetown. I had forgot that, me and my sister guy tickets and she was like, oh, I'm on my way, and I was like, oh, shoot, let me clean what you didn't mention the concert? You didn't mention who was gonna be there? Yeah? And then who else was on one twelve Peaches and Creek Bitch. I was in there getting it. My throat was sore by the time I left from

trying to sing with Kenny Birds too. That's all he was doing a singer and dancing and singing and drinking. I had fun, but it was definitely auntie fist. Was it? A lot of single aunties in there. It was a lot of single aunties and a lot of aunties with the nigger. Yes, it was a good old Where was it? It was at the Spectrum Arena. They packed that bitch too. I wish I was there. Who all was it again? It was Monica Escate one twelve, Ace Town in Jinuine.

I'm mad I missed that Januine? Still fine? You think? Genuinely fine? He liked n like nine five. He's still ninety four fine though, Yeah, ninety four like skin nigga fund. Yeah. Pretty. He's a good look at man, and he's like he seemed like he enjoyed that attention to my boy said, he not even thinking no more. He got during escape that waver there people set your hands down. He want to make sure y'all see him. Shame, but that was that was a good time. What about you? I ain't

too much hung out? What a friend? Uh, just dinner that type of stuff, regular courting, okay, just in case the nigga is interested in knowing. Yeah, that's all chilling out a little bit girl? Why uh? The guy who I was out with gets uh email? Well a text message first, because he posted his food and I even hid my pocketbook in the in the he's something the only person say pocketbook. I even hid my purse in

the right because that's where pocketbooks be. We was at stay girl, I had got like some shrimp and scallop ship. Oh a big fucking bowl of pasta? Yeah, what is that? Why would y'all be selling that? So I did not enjoy my food for real. But the naga posted the food on his Instagram story and then he gets a text message that said, um, can I have your email address, sir? So he sends the email address to this person via text, and about two minutes later, the nigga gets a fucking

invoice to paint this bitch house. She was like, oh you're buying sho Okay, Well I told you see my living room wall? Bitch? You go to invoice? How do y'all ask for money? Because I feel like she she was a nice try. She must have been already asking for that money for a long time or something to be like, so see me, what's your email? That's a lot of entitlement. Bit because that is not a nice way to finesse. And they got the check, she didn't

get it. I would never do no ship like that. Yeah, because you gotta be nice and you can't talk to me no more of you send that money right. Look, I was, I was on her side though. I was like, yeah, bitch, but that is not how you get money at a man. That's real rude, that's all that's like. You know, I've seen people. I think somebody under this to me before. Just send me a cash at request. No, you need to pick up the phone and call me and ask me for my fucking money, just to me sending me

no God to have cash request. Yeah, women do not aggressively asking for money. I'm very sweet. Hey baby, how's your day going. Did you eat yet? Okay, honey, did you eat? Yeah? Let me hang up your coach, coach, your cote, nigga and what else? What else? I'm gonna do it all your pockets and I'll be nice and I don't rub your shoulders and massage your temples and ship make you a drink you want to drink? Would

you like a beverage? And then I'm a fun ah bang, But you fucking actress, Okay, I remember I told you I had the thing. That thing that I wanted to do is in two weeks, and can you give me four thousand dollars for it? Please? Goddamn this bitch was only asked for eight hundred dollars. I told her. I told her to test. I told him to test. Text her back and say, do I live there? Is that my house? Yeah? Did he say that? Because she like you, you'd be eating this pussy over here exactly. He said

he's never been to her house before. Well, shame she didn't ask that for no reason. He made her feel like she could ask for that. That's how I feel, And I feel like a woman ain't gonna ask a man for money in that way, a man that they respect. It's like, let me send this to this sympass and against do and he ain't please nigga exactly, Because that's how when I'm ready to get rid of a nigga,

that's what I do. I'll ask for some outlandish amount of money and either you can come through or you ain't. And it's a win either way. Either you're gonna disappear or I'm gonna get the money right, but I need ten thousand dollars by tomorrow. NULD be like what my enemies are after me watched I watched it. Now you said I'll be watching TV. I watched that ship. I could not believe it. And I need you to take a credit card out for twenty five thou dollars right now, baby,

and another one. And you see the last girl how she finessed his ass back. Don't clothes, y'all, if y'all, if y'all haven't seen yes Netflix, yo, the last bit got all his naked designer clothes and started. She said she's still selling it up until the day of recording, still selling that on eBay could and she was hitting He was hitting her up mad that she had finessed him. You can't get man, that's a psychopath, sociopath, which was going between being nice and being mean back and forth

about them damn clothes. How about finessed these bitches without my drip home. Yeah, we got my whole uniform over there, bitch, dog, I know a bit you got played by nigga like that, Like when she met the nigga. He obviously was finessing somebody else to take care of her, and when her time was up, that nigga started running a muck up on her checking account. And that's probably to take care of the next woman. Like, what is the fucking thought process of those type of people, Like you're just a

whole financial predator out here. That's scary. Yeah, that's scary, but you ain't gonna get me. Not getting me. I got two things for you, baby, I'll make it three. Encouragement, pussy and jokes. That's it. Make you laugh. I've encourage you to go, you give it your best shot. And then I thought it, I'm confused. How the fuck if you never yourself went and took out these type of credit cards, you never took these type of loans. Obviously you can't afford this ship. What kind of dick does

this nigga have? And I'm looking at the women, I'm like, I like judging them basically, Oh, she ain't that cute, Maybe she has low self esteem. I was doing that, but no. Still nobody deserves to get finest like that. But I'm just trying to figure out, because you know, what should happens to you, you you always got to look within. But what is it about me? That allowed myself to

be finessed by this new right. But it was in love and he made himself look like he was he had it like that, but still a millionaire, a billionaire that was flying private jets I built. The weirdest part was how his fucking baby mama was someone that testified against him before and didn't mention it to the girl. And now you were part of the finesse. She's not finesse that they got the whole kid guard your puss, his ladies, they are his swindling boys at about three

million point periods. Another tender swindler, Mary J. Blige, husband can do Isaacs m so y'all. Mary was on the box Andre Martinez show recently and she was talking about how, um, you know, she filed for divorce from her ex in after she caught him basically taking care of another bit off her money and she was ordered to pay alimony for these two years while he were going you um, you know, the divorce whatever situation. How much was thirty thousand dollars a month? Bitch Mary said she had to

go back on tour to pay that ship. How she didn't have money for herself, like she felt like she lost her soul in their relationship racks a month. That's some bullshit. Like, personally, I would have just paid somebody to knock that. Wait, wait, you can find somebody that do not condoned violence or murder friars allegedly. No, but ship, this happens to men every day when they get a divorce. They had to pay that money. But you don't do that to Mary. Mary is a whole national treasure. You

don't do that to Mary. Mary j Blige. I know he's why her ass at the Super Bowl, like, yeah, that's my ex BA, you did a super bowlish it. She passed out because I gotta given listen, that was the two years, during the two years that they were going through the divorce. She's not paying him no more. I'd like to think gee, I would definitely would have had his ass knocked out. And I'm gonna talk for that ship. I know Mary, she's going through that ship.

She had came running around like Lorenzo and Jail, Terek and Diana fucking running them up. And she gotta give kid do thirty am what hey? Like she probably should have been a mona on that nigger had his ass hanging for bonds and something. Your damn goodness, City boys up for real about three trillion dollars? Do we have a batty who talks back? We do, as a matter

of fact. Let me see y'all. All right, y'all know we've been doing for the for Black History Month or excuse me, I like what Kanye is saying, Black Future Month? All right, we ain't living in the past no more. It's up from here. So this week's batty who talks back, uh is Gwendoline Brooks. Gwendolen Brooks. She's born in Topeka, Kansas, and her family was in Chicago when she was Oh, I'm out of breath. Why did I get out of breath?

All right? So this week's batty who're talking at the same time, But we just jumped into that bage like this one. You know, you're family. I aren't even moving around me, and I'm exhausted using my heir to speak. Y'all hit that alright? Sorry? H all right, y'all. So look, this week's batty who talks back is Gwendolynn Elizabeth Brooks um. Her and her family moved to Chicago from Topeka, Kansas when she was a young girl. She was an American poet, arthur,

and teacher. Her work often dealt with personal liberations and struggles of ordinary people in her community. She won the Polar Surprise for Poetry in May Excuse Me on May first, nineteen fifty for Annie Allen, making her the first African American to receive a poet Surprise. Many of brooks works display of political consciousness, especially those from the nineteen sixties and later, with several of her poems reflecting the civil

rights activism of that period. So listen. You've heard her poems on Kanye's uh Dande album on the song Praise God. You heard that song and all over TikTok. It goes something like this, even if you're not ready for the day, it cannot always be night. Pick a back. So that's actually Gwendolynn Brooks, Um, it's a poem. It's called speech to the Young, all right. Gwendolyn Brooks. A batty who talks back. Gwendolyn Brooks. Alright, guys, we got Aunt Louis

from Snowfall on We talked back. Coming up next, y'all. Stay tuned. What's up, y'all? It's your girl. A J and We got a super duper special guest on We Talked Back this week. Y'all, we got the lovely Angela Lewis my favorite show, my aunt Louis. Yes, louis mother, wife, actress, dancer. So tell us about how it's been playing this character Louis in season five? What can we expect a little

bit Louie? You know, Louie is always fighting for her power, and at the end of the season four she got shot and almost died, and so she is really laser focused on what it is she needs to do to have the life that she wants to have and to be who she sees herself as being. She's not taking no for an answer. Um, She's she got a lot of fight left in her and she she got a lot of money, so she making things happened this year. So growing up in Detroit, right, You're from Detroit, Michigan. Uh?

Did Angela have a completely different reality from Auntie Louis? Yes? In that so I'm from Detroit, definitely, from the suburb of Detroit. No, not at all. I'm from the East Side Jefferson and Dick. But having said that, my parents did a really good job of um protecting me from the world and the city and all of the pitfalls of it. They just kept me busy. My dad would always say, and I don't mind as the devil's workshop. And he wasn't a religious man, but he believed that.

So I was always in somebody's after school activity, some summer camp, some performing arts, this and that. Um. My parents were very supportive in the things that I was interested in, and and that kept me busy and kept me out of trouble for the most part. You know, they you know, I got stories they don't know about, but it definitely it kept me alive and and it kept me thriving. Um. We you know I was poor,

but I didn't know it. I didn't know it until high school when I started going over my friends houses like oh oh my Um. But again that's a test of it to my parents. You know, we never felt like we were without and we felt loved and we had fun. Um. Yeah. And so where I grew up. And also a difference between myself and Louie is that I had support and Louis did not have support growing up. You know, she was told no all the time and

I got a lot of yeses. How didn't I think I was in college and and then in New York before I started getting a lot of nose. You know, no, you can't do this, No you can't be that, like right right? What would you say is your favorite part of playing Louis that I get to like Louis is so strong and I think I'm a strong human being a strong woman. But Louis is not afraid. She is not afraid of anybody, and well, she has her fears, but she is able to um work around and through

those fears to really get what she wants. And I think that that's so admirable. And she's so smart, you know, she's Louise. She'd be strategizing and she comes up with the plans, you know, and I and I take from that. You know, I knew your character was going to be a force to be reckon with from the scene where you come out of the room from watching your show and just start being a bit like I was like, oh,

I'm gonna love this character. So there is a intimacy between you and a female character was hard to play or as a woman? You mean, I don't think it was hard to play in terms of, like, you know, woman on woman loving. I feel like, um, that's not you know, my experience or my preference, but I think, you know, people should love who they want to love, and I think that our the way we kind of

choreographed our scenes. I don't as an audience member, I don't know how graphic it felt, but it really felt we um um Judith is the actress's name, Judith, And I felt like it was really important to make the scene beautiful, to um show the beauty between two really different generations of black women, which we don't really get to see that on TV, you know, And so um, the lusty part of it wasn't so important. It was

really about connecting. And you know, I had a sheet wrapped around me, so that took care of you know, that takes care of itself. So I hope and I think that we were successful in that. So No, it wasn't It wasn't difficult in that way, Like I didn't feel like or anything like that. Now, you didn't say that you started. It wasn't until college that you started getting knows Now, were you ever discouraged by those nose

and how did you overcome that? Um? I mean I went to University of Michigan and in Detroit, and because of the community that I was brought up in, they did a good job at like preparing us. And I don't remember at what age things started, but at the very least sixth grade, so like eleven years old. Um, they did a good job of preparing us or what could might happen um out in the world once we are you know, my school was mostly Detroit is mostly black, and so I went to school with all black kids,

mostly black teachers. We had our Black History Month was on jail like nobody do it like babu, and so you know, I knew that there was a thing of you know, being the only black person in your class, but I had never experienced that until University of Michigan and I had a lecture class and this lecture hall was huge, I mean, like thousand kids easy, and I was the only black student in that class, and that was shocking and um. But still it was just the

reality of the situation. And like most black people, we look at our realities and we keep it moving because we got lis live, we got things we're trying to do, you know, and so um. And also there were only two of us in my class I made you in theater,

there were two black kids. Um. Two more kind of transferred in later, but there were two of us in my class, and so that was frustrating, and uh could be discouraging things like um invoiced class, being told that, you know, to get rid of my accent, um and try to sound more flat and American, not white, because that wouldn't be you know, but flat and American. Um. And that was right and and and that that was

the only way we were going to get jobs. And so it felt like, excuse me, it felt like a um, needing to remove myself from my culture. And that didn't feel good. And so I just really and and also I never succeeded in that all the way, you know what I mean, Like my accent is just my accent. And then by the time I got into the work for us, they were like, wait, what you're doing? Where's

your you know? So right, Um, it was definitely frustrating, but um uh and and things still are discouraging sometimes, but you know, we we we keep on. We do it. Anywore, how long have you've been chasing your acting career? Because I think when people end up on like big movies, or big shows. Your viewers oftentimes they think you came out of nowhere, you know, right, So, Um, yeah, I was in New York for thirteen years, um, acting doing

our Broadway plays. Um, just pounding the pavement like every other actress, with my side job as a bartender and the cocktail waitress. Um, that's what I did. And then I moved to l A. And I was here for two years being in the pavement, and I was a receptionist at a gym and a babysitter for two years before snowfall came along. So no, it did not happen overnight, not at all. So let me ask you this, which did you prefer theater like off Broadway or actually acting

in shows like? Which one is more better suited for you? Do you think? Oh? I like them both for different reasons. Um, in theater, you really, I mean the deep dives that you get to do inside of a character and a and a journey is really there's no there's nothing like it. Um, There's nothing like finding ways to keep things fresh after you've been doing the same thing eight days a week for however many weeks, and you still gotta keep it, like when that door opens that's the first time that

door opens. Like how do you keep that honest and fresh? Um? Having said that, you know you make more money on camera, that's for sure, that's the starter. Um. Because being a theater actress, it's no joke, like you know what I mean, Like you doing the thing that you went to school for, the thing that you work your entire life to do, Like I didn't have a plan B Like this was it.

I'm gonna be an actress and that's it. And you get in a show and you still can't pay your rent Like that's hard, Like I was, you know, working in a show and then going to my side job at night, Like that's not it's not fun. Theater actors absolutely, hands down should be getting paid more. Um. Having said that, as an on camera actress, yes, the money is that much better. Um. And I don't mean even just as

a series regular. I mean, you know, you do you know a code a co star role, and you're getting paid more than you're getting paid you know for that week that you worked eight hours a day, you know what I mean. So there's that, and then there's also I feel like doing on camera work is the epitome of the thing. That I love the most about working

in theater, which is rehearsal. I love the rehearsal process where you're you know, with your cast and your director and the energy is flowing, that creative energy that makes all those juices pop up, and you're exploring and finding new things and and you're listening to your gut on camera. When you get inspired, you gotta jump on that inspiration because you don't get tomorrow, Like, oh that thing, I wanted to do that thing, but I got scared, So

I'm not gonna do it tomorrow. When we get to rehearsal, I'm gonna do it tomorrow or tomorrow tomorrow show, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. You don't get you don't get tomorrow. You might not get another take, so you really to like on it. You know. So we know, we know you're married, But how is it working with Dampson? How is it? How is he? Damn? It was awesome? Damnson. He's a sweetheart. He very professional. Um, he is the engine of our show, you know, and

super funny. You know. Man, when we all get together, it's a riot. And I feel bad for the new directors coming in because they it's gonna be hard to like rally us together, like, come on, y'all, we got work to do. Um. He is quite funny and he's a sweetheart. So you are you happy with the direction and show is going in after the passing of John Singleton? Do you feel like it would be different if he was still with us or you're very happy with what's going on? Um? I think it's a mix of both.

I think the show would be different if he was still around because we worked with him at Nobody can replace him. Yeah. He he He was the authenticity of the show. He was the the heart that, you know, the the it was his you know, brain child, So nothing will replace that. Um. Having said that, I do feel like he left behind a group of people, a group of artists who really want to make him proud,

who really understood what it was he was wanting to say. Um, And I do feel proud of where the show was going. I hope he's proud, you know. I do know that when we come, we come with our a game and we do our best, and when things don't feel right on the page, you know, we go in the room and or call up the show runner and say, hey, what what does this mean? You know? Um? And I think that our writers are smart writers and their humans and they want to tell a human story. And and yeah,

I hope John is proud now. A j said she brought up you being married because she wanted you to say something juicy about dancing. But we know you ain't gonna do that. Some we're gonna lead that alone. It's like, my brother, I'm weird. It's like, I don't know if I had anything, So tell us this. How do you juggle being a mom because I see your mom to a two year old and being a wife, so those take huge, you know, amount of time their priority. How do you juggle those with career? Um? I think I

just try to be in the moment, you know. Um, When I'm at work, I have a husband, an amazing husband, y'all. He holds me down so much. I just I don't know if I can do it. Yes, yes it is. And and you know, when I'm at work, I'm at work, and and the baby is at an age where I don't call to check in with her because it just

makes her more mad. So it doesn't yeah, exactly, and it should be crying and I feel bad by the husband and the nanny and so, um, when I'm at work, I'm at work check in with my husband, but not on FaceTime yet not yet. Um. And then when I'm with my family, I'm with my family and and he's in the business too, and so it makes it easier to have a short hand on you know, what's happening and what needs to happen. And um, we just you know, really work to support each other in that way, you know.

And when if I need to take some time to you know, do interviews or to you know, work on some lines or you know, to take we help each other with our health tapes and things like that. We we figure it out. And so I don't I don't know how I juggle it. I just know what needs to get done and we figure it out. That's right. So you're from Detroit and I see that you're a vegan, and I know your aunts grew up. So how did that happen? When when did you decided to become a

vegan and why? Yeah, So, to be honest, I am pesca vegan. I added fish and in my second trimester. Um, but I became vegan because I knew I wanted to have a baby, but I wasn't sure when that was gonna happen. Um, especially once I put snowfall, I was like, Okay, well now I'm in a show. Am I gonna stop to have a baby? But I didn't. I fully believe in energy and and and all that stuff that some people might call who woo but something my friend calls

it the woo. I fully believe in the woo. And so I didn't want to tell the baby energy no to go away. So I said to the baby, whenever you're ready, I'll be ready. And and in that process I meditate, uh quite a bit, and I heard prepare the space. And I took that um to mean not only my home but also my body. And because I did grow up in Detroit, and I you know, I was chili, cheese, fries and all the burgers and all the things. And I just felt like, over the years

my body and I grew up a dancer. So my body has worked hard to to support me and to allow me to thrive. And so in this moment where I want my body to do this, perform this miracle and and and to perform optimally, maybe I should take a break from things that require a lot to digest that prevent the body from healing, because when your body is digesting, it's not healing the things that you needed

to heal. And I didn't have any like major ailments or anything, but I'm sure there are things that you know needed to happen in order to perform optimally, you know, And and and I feel like I did the right thing because my baby came milin she's she's at genius baby, like you know. And so what do you call it? Pest vegan? What you call it? Because I I eat a plant based diet mostly, but I most of the time. I'm um. I never just did straight vegan for a long time, so I do do the fish. I'm from

the South, we from the South. Child, it's hard to just discard seafood living and growing up on the coast. Yeah, it interesting. Yeah, But you know, I think what's more important than and this is you know, completely my opinion, But what's more important than vegan or not being an a keto or whatever whatever whatever you want to be? Like, we don't really need labels that I think the ideal thing is to be able to choose your meals every meal.

Is a choice, you know what I mean. And if you're conscious of what you're eating, what you're putting in your body, then who cares whether you're vegan or not. It's really about are you eating the things that's going to allow you to thrive? Right? You know? But sometimes a cheeseburger helped me, But you don't feel good after it though, you know what I'm saying. Like you don't, I don't know what you're talking about. But I started laying to beyond stuff because it's like three D meat,

you know what I'm saying. So I exactly, I'd rather eat a piece of salmon than eating what did your friends? What did your friends say? My friends said everything in moderation, including moderation. So sometimes it's good to have that burger because every meal is a choice, and in this moment, I choose to have a Burger Burger. So, UM, I see that you're a huge philanthropist. You're doing the Cancer Society of America, Leukemia and le froma society, and most

importantly to me is the Black and Missing. How how did you get involved with that? Um? How did I get involved? It was years ago. It just UM came to me in some kind of way that um, you know, when we go missing, ain't nobody checking. And I felt like, yeah, like that's terrible, and what can I do to you know, kind of help that. And you know, at the moment, I was like, well, I have a couple of dollars and this is long before snowfall, Like, let me just

contribute to them. And so that's been, you know, it's really just been you know, little contributions here and there. My um, I biggest platform right now is UM in the black maternal health space. After having my baby, I realized I just learned so much. Oh my goodness, UM I learned a lot and I realized at the end of it that I spent a lot of money trying to have a healthy birth. UM something unexpected things happened

and nothing like it wasn't anything like traumatic. I had a beautiful experience, but I had reath like sologe I was trying to induce. They wanted I needed to be induced and I didn't want to do it. I didn't want to get induced. I wanted to have a natural water birth, and so I got read lexology, I had acupuncture, I had a massage. Massues come a couple of times, like all of these things, just trying to just trying

to induce naturally, it didn't happen. Um, I ended up needing to be induced and everything you know worked out mine. But I was like, I spent a lot of money. What if I wasn't on the TV show? How would that have gone down? You know? And what if I didn't have access to all of these resources. So I just think it is another tragedy in this country that you know, you gotta have all you know, stacks and stacks in order to have in order to feel safe in the knowing that you can have a healthy, joyous

birth right. That's the tragedy. And so I'm really um working to to educate women on the different resources that are available to them. I'm working to be a vessel for those resources to not be a burden on women at a time that's already so full of you know, the unexpected and the unknown like less you know, we should be feel enjoy at that time, not stressed, you know.

And and and it's important for women, for our women to feel supported, to be supported and to have a voice and feel like they can be advocates for themselves. And if they can't they have support to advocate for them because it's a lot of it's a lot of bulls. So is that the moon Child Collaborative because I saw that Moonchild Collaborative. Well, it's under that. So Moonchild Collaborative is my umbrella production company and houses UM myself and

my husband as UM business entities. And then underneath that umbrella we have Moonchild. Uh yeah, wait, moon Child Group is the umbrella company. Moonchild Collaborative is the nonprofit entity. And then our first program under that is birth Village, which is like what you what the masses We'll see once we are done branding and sounds nice. Now. I saw on your website that you had some core character

traits listed in the Girl. I was researching your girl, the transcendent lover, the survivor, the timid warrior, and the heroine with the forgotten song. Which one do you feel like you resonates with you most? And why? Well, I think all of them resonate with me the most, which is why I UM pulled them out like those are the So in any given UM project, in any given character, if those traits are there, that's what I'm gonna I'm

gonna easily connect to those things. So and doesn't matter, you know, how old the character is, It doesn't matter if the character is is written as white or Asian or or what it is. I'm going to be able to be like, oh, I get what this character is going through because oh, that's the timid warrior. She's the one who like is afraid to speak out, but she's gonna do it anyway, and that that resonates with me.

So each of those um um uh character types are the ones that that I can settle into easily because that's where I go. Because I was gonna ask you, like, what are some of the um some of the things that you've learned about yourself playing you know, such a strong, dynamic character like Aunt Louis. Yeah, I've learned that I don't speak up as often as I should, and that I can and speak up more like I am fully capable. Yeah, I'm fully capable of filling that space. I don't think

I really really knew that before. Um And I've learned how to really hone in on storytelling and this is an actor's skill and this is what also with the help of Aim and Aiman Joseph who plays Jerome he's so good at like cutting through all the other things that's happening in the scene and getting right to the meat of the story, like what's really happening between these two characters right now? Um, and he often brings all of us two that clarity. Um. It's really he's so

good at that. He's going to be an amazing director. Um. He already is. He's directing, but you'll get bigger. Yeah. Um. But in that I have learned a little bit of how to do that too. So it's exciting to tell me this. What what? What's something that people should know about you that they that nobody would know something about Angela not Louis. Mm. What should people know about me that they don't already know? Um? That's a good question. Um, oh, I stumped you on that one. You did? You did?

I what we don't have that? Okay? Well, what is something that people incorrectly assume about you? People? People think I'm crazy based on are but no, they really think I'm like I'm gonna be like beating people up and I'm like, wait, wait, no, that that's not me. That's I mean, that's how it happens right there. Do people come to your social media talking shit like you're the character. No, I mean not really. Sometimes people come out of pocket and I'd be like, well I have to step strate,

you know, in a loving way. Tell us this. What what is your dream role? Like? Who do you want to play? Are? What would it be? Um? I mean I still have a lot of dream roles left to play. Um, I do want to I want to play a character who is other worldly. So I like, I love some sci fi so and I and I love um when you start getting into like magic and and ethereal things. Um, yeah, talk about stupid. Okay, Now, if you had somebody to play you in a movie, like if your lifetime story

was a movie, who would you want to be here? Oh? Man? Um me at this point herself, what are youbody? I'm still young? But somebody else? Who who would I get? Um? You know shan Say Adams. It's from Detroit and she's so good. Um so yeah, I would say Shante Sante Adams. She was in Baby Boy. Um No, Shante was in what's this last movie she did with? Um? Oh god? Um? She was Roxane Okay okay, yeah, okay, yeah she's different.

Yeah yeah, okay, I got one more question. Okay almost, Uh, tell me, like the most cutthroat experience you had in Hollywood, because I know it's a cutthroat industry. The most cut When did when did you almost become Louis in real life? Like? They don't try then out of me and I had to beat somebody up on set. I'm gonna call my husband, right, um man, um, I wasn't about so Okay, here's one.

The carpet, right. The carpet is such an interesting thing because the red carpet, because it's more than just getting pretty for a picture, right, There's a lot of things that go into it, and especially I'm gonna say, especially when you first started out it, You've worked your butt off to get to where you are finally in this position where I even get to walk a red carpet, right, and now you spent all of this money to hire a stylus, the hair and the and the makeup and

the boardrobe stylist to get finally get the look and you get to the carpet. The first time I went on a carpet that wasn't an f X carpet. So with f FX, everybody was are for us. Everybody knows these are the people were in the family. So the cameras are I can't roll my tongue, but you know, it's going and going and going. So my first non effex carpet, I remember what it was, but nobody knew who I was. I mean, my name was on the list and everybody had the thing with my picture and

my name. So the photographers were like, who this black girl? Yeah, no picture. I'm like that, ain't gonna take the picture away? And then finally maybe they would mm hmmm, and I'm like, wait, what is happening right now? It was such a demoralizing moment, and like, well, clearly I belong here because my name is on the thing. I'm Auntie Louie. You're not playing with me, But why would you even do that? That was it was the meanest thing that's ever happened to me.

And and it was though that moment that I realized, Oh, this is all about money, Like, however you getting paid, you ain't really getting paid to take my pictures, so you don't need to. This is not about me. And this is the moment that I learned that Hollywood is not really about you. Hollywood and money machine. Yes, and so I that was the moment I had to like change my focus and and and really hone into what is about me? You know, because even when they don't

know me, it's not about me. But even when they do, when they are like Miss Lewis, Mrs Lewis, ms Lewis taking the pictures, taking the pictures, and you know, and you know, three four or five, ten years, you know, as I get bigger in my career, gets bigger, you know, it still is not about me. I can't take that to my head, you know, and let it get in the way. So yeah, I had to refocus and really figure out what what is about me? What in my life am I doing that's about me? Okay, hold that

thought one second. Let's pay some bills. Your husband, how did you know that he was the one for you? Like? What was it? Oh? Well, there were multiple things that happened aspired to that right there. I even marry seven years, seven years and together ten um. He the it was

just it was healing, that was one. Um. There were dreams involved, um, like literal dreams, like I dreamt about order unlike our second we weren't even dating yet, and I was like, oh so listen, Um, I just dreamt that about our daughter, and because I was like, that's a lot. I'm not holding that by myself, right, um, and he was just he is super sweet, super supportive, UM, super creative. We don't always agree, you know, and we're learning more and more how to communicate better with each other.

But the just the fact that he doesn't he doesn't give up on that on the working towards us being together. We're growing as individuals, but we are growing together. Um. And that was apparent from the beginning. M yeah, m hm. That's because anytime somebody asked me a about one of these niggas, I'd be like, definitely blessed in that apartment for real. So we have this segment on our show, and we do it with everybody. Is called dumping stories,

right and basically I know. So we want you to share with us a time in your life where you might have got played, you were in a relationship where he did some shipped to you that you didn't appreciate, or you made some bad choices behind the man. Can you share that with us in our listeners dumb bitch stories, because we've all been a dumb bitch at least once. Or twice. Oh my god, how long we got? You got you out? We're here. Um. The relationship I was

in before my husband was just a dumbish relationship. And I was in that relationship for five years. So yeah, yeah, he wasn't right. He wasn't right. He was lying and cheating and all the things, and I felt like I had to be able to prove it in order for it to be true. So one of the one of the many things that I learned from that relationship is you know what you know. You don't gotta prove it. You don't gotta come up with the physical evidence. That's it. And that's what a lot of us will do. We

have to find some ship, all right. But I was a girl. I was in this relationship, and that's where every time that man left the house, I was under the bed, I was in the closet. I was looking like, I'm gonna find what you're doing, and I was myself, exactly what you want to do, so I can see what you rather do. I'm not going through your ship because it's gonna knock on the front door. And a

couple of times literally knock on the front door. Right right, No, girl, I turned into expect your motherfucking gadget as soon as that left. And the crazy thing is when you do find what you're looking for, you like no making all kinds of excuses like let that man cheat in peace and you ain't ready to leave. That's what I believe it. When I'm ready to leave, I'm going through all your ship until you're ready to leave. This is why I'm leaving.

So okay, we'll last thing, all right. One piece of advice that you would give to young black people who are interested, especially women interested in becoming an actor, what would you tell them? It's not easy, so don't think that it is. Do not. It just doesn't happen overnight.

So people hit me up all the time, you know, asking me can I hook them up the snowfall, and it just doesn't work like that, Like, hey, I don't know you, and I don't know what you can do, and even if you are the most talented person in the world, it just doesn't work like that. Um it Sometimes it oftentimes takes years and years and years of pounding the pavement to make it happen. And that's okay. It is the rare occasion where somebody gets hits overnight

like fresh out of school or fresh off the whatever. Um, So don't let the fact that it's taking a long time UM deter you discourage you because what you should be doing while things are not going the way you want them to go, is be paying attention to you. Are you living the life that you want to live, because your life is going to um inform your career. Like nobody wants an actor who is you know for all of us, like theater kids out there, who is

just acting? Like? No, you gotta have like hobbies and things that you like to do, and and it's important to do that not only so that you can talk to people, but so that you're not sitting around waiting on your phone ring because that ship would drive you crazy. Right. And then if you're not a theater kid or a theater nerd, but you still want to act, just what are you doing? Just live your life? You gotta and but go hard, you know what I mean, Like it's

a it's a balance between between the two. Um, go hard because this is not easy. And it's a lot of people who say that they're actors who are not really doing nothing, you know. Um yeah, So don't don't even if you're audition given, if your auditions. I have a friend, like you know, she had some some gigs now, but for a long while she was just getting a lot of knows. I wouldn't take that. I wouldn't take like her not being a an actress from her, but

she was getting no for about five years. No, yes, nose doesn't mean that you're not an actors. I mean there are some people who are who say that they're an actress, but they're not going forward. They're not auditioning, they're not in class, they're not doing nothing, just talking about dying actor and it's like, but no, you're not not really, you know that's the only acting you're doing. Yes, thank you so much for joining us, man, We really

really super appreciated. We can't wait to watch you on this happen and I know I hope you'll be tearing it up again. I know you're gonna be tearing it up. Yeah, wow, y'all. I'm excited for y'all to so um. Okay, tell everybody where to find you when the show errors everything? Yeah, so um. You can find me on Instagram and Twitter at love Angela Louis l U v Angela Lewis l E W I S And yeah, that's that's where I

am most of the time. It snowfall. Wednesday is back, y'all. Y'all, just you need to be with my joint and my burger. I gotta binge watch it before it comes out next week so I can know what the hell is going on. I don't watch t V. I to watch the last season over just to be, you know, remember everything that happens, so I can read. Thank you, girl, we appreciate you. Come back and see us. Okay, okay, we'll do all right. So now I guess I gotta binge watch TV. That

should do. Girl, you're missing out on. This show is so good, so entertaining. I don't know. I watched the last episode. Well watch all the rest of them. Please please go back and start from the beginning. It's hard, man. Once the ship is out there, it's like I gotta watch three years worth of TV. It's not three years. It will take you a weekend to catch up. It's three years, girl, watch that ship. It's so good. Yeall.

So if you didn't watch, this was prerecorded, but if you haven't watched it, it came out last night, So y'all tune in. The Snowfall is a really good show. And Louis is dope on the show and dope as the character, So y'all tune into her. Please, dope on the show and dope as the character. I mean she dope in person. She's dope as herself and dope as on Louis. That's what I mean. All Right, y'all listen.

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