We're just too unapologetically black women with an opinion to talk back. All right, y'all listen, thank you guys for tuning in for a new episode that we talked back. It's your girl a j It's Tam Bam. Y'all. Guess who we got. We got the pen we talk back. To be confused with the pencil or the typewriter, bitch, it's the pin. Okay, Yeah, we got super producer, super songwriter, multi platinum hit maker, and four time Grammy nominee Sean Garret. When we talked back, thank you for coming on, Thank
you for coming to celebrate with you. Like the introduction we did good. I appreciate it. I definitely appreciated. Thanks for the love. Thanks for the love. What did you're here? We'd be going to in Atlanta for that here. Man. You know, so I just speak. I just speak doing things. YEA. Last night, while I was high, I was researching you, right, and I saw that you were a military rad d you seen some time in England? Germany? England? Absolutely? Last night, yeah,
I was, man, I was. My dad was stationed min Tobies Biden um number all over the place. Okay, So you weren't. I saw you were in England. I don't know those funs. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah No. I saw my first record there when I was in Um, I was fourteen and that was um every LBMG, and I was actually out there going crazy as a youngster. I used to live right by Wimbo Studios. First shout, first video. So on, Uh the Mountain Washed Rushmore, Mountain of Producers.
Where are you at? And who up there with? You? Better have me up there? It's only four right, Uh, let's see man all time. You gotta have Quincy Jones up there. Number one. You gotta have Quincy up there. Then you gotta have um damn, that's oh that's hard. Um, there's so many, um damn. I would definitely go with Quincy. I don't even belong up there when it comes to Quincy, or when it becomes when it comes to oh he's humble actually ye just been real. Um, there's so many, man,
I could just I could swizz beats Timberland. Um just I mean baby face, um je Jermaine Duprix. Um, there's so many. There's so many. Oh yeah, yeah exactly, I'm thinking, you know what I'm saying. Like one of the best producers ever. Keep my friends up ever personal. Yeah, we've been cooking because your friends where y'are from. I'm from Charleston, South Carolina, not from Columbia, South Carolina. Okay, right o, country girl, I'm not country. I'm southern. Let's get that
straight from country. Country is a state of all people try to make that a derogatory term, and it is not on it. I'm like that with a country girl. God dog, we'll be cooking in it. Yeah, we clear, let's take that plate, bring that plate to the table and take it away. But we're gonna talk our ship too, and you're gonna eat and you're gonna Yeah. Let's talk about Hey, young world man, let's talk about he rectly
looking for a legends. Let's talk about that. Yeah, man, looking for a legends man is a very very important, uh perspective UM for today. You know what I'm saying. We got um so many different opportunities today to really like build we haven't seen I think in this era, um outside of young money, I think young money in cash money really built and QC QC starting to building
a building a really nice legacy. UM. But I would say that you know, Hey, young world is about, you know, signing and finding young artists who have the ability to become a legend. You know what I'm saying, And that's from the gate, meaning like people who have UM sort of like have that that special talent that it's hard to find, you know what I'm saying, Like that that
type of talent. You're like, Yo, if this person had UM a team around him, that could help, you know, give some artists development, UM if they got their head on really really right in reference to how they take how serious they take their performance, how serious they take their recording, how serious they really you know, study the craft. UM. You know, just smart artists, young smart artists and people who are really interested in and somehow becoming UM not
just a household name, but someone else that's around forever. UM. And I think it's a time again we haven't UM. We have a quite quite a few in my opinion, UM artists that today, like Drake stands out to me as a legend, Kanye West stands out to me as a legend UM. But this new generation, even after after Drake UM, it's kind of you know, I don't know, I don't really know who I could say that it's going to be a legend um a lot of times you'll be killing people with the autom do the ship
like you know, autot to. You still gotta, like, you know, I don't tune. You still got to kind of be able to hold a note that you know what I'm saying, Like it just I don't really just tightens your It tightens your your voice a little bit to the point where it kind of sort of like grips it. But you know you can alter it a little bit, but you still gotta be able to hold it, not like people talking about teeth hand Yeah. Really sing yeah, hold on. J J fish As can not sing in They put
auto tune on him and he sounded good. I was like, he can hold it, he must be able to hold Instagram Yeah, they was in their doctor and on this ship. Yeah. Yeah, you had a good an R. I mean, he he had a good engineering there working working his thing. So last night, Man Ashley, we're watching videos from your auditions and have you baby, and some people like Nigga's played too much. That's all I'm gonna saying. Listen, I got
even gonna make the cut, even get seen. Have y'all found the thirty qualifiers because you can't tell me I'm not an n R like I really I have a good ear for good music. I don't wait, actually want to audition. You want to audition? Plan then I might go out. It did go out when you were singing, and that might have been a good thing. But let's try it again. Okay, you're ready, you're ready. It's gonna
be bad. I ain't doing that ship y'all trying to let always I have enough one saw last night you say your heart out like this is what I'm gonna do for Sean. That's what I do for Sean. Look, Sean, if you need somebody to go through the contestants, okay, hit me, let me so. Let me get this straight. What qualifies you? Because it is a good point, it's good. This is a good question. What qualifies What qualifies a person to be a great? A and R? Alright? Because
A and R do do? A and R is really even exists anymore, because these kids out here doing the only thing the most they come ready made them. But they do need artists in repertoire. They do need somebody to put them there. So they definitely need that, and
they need producers. They really do need producer, especially like a lot of you know, like a lot of um, I won't even just say rappers, but you know, a lot a lot of rappers are pretty good if they have producers to really help them sort of like make albums, and then they're making great albums. Uh. Speaking of great albums, I wanted to talk to you about this great album
we just put together. Um. But you know, when it comes to making great albums, you know, producers really help you sort of like make different cover different lanes, you know what I'm saying. Of of of of an album. You could be you know, really working on a great body of work, but they continue to push you in ways that you can't even push yourself, right, And so
I think that's the part that's really missing. And you know, today it's like, I don't know, man, people they be wearing their their their their emotions on their sleeves and shipped to the point where they don't really want nobody to really help them. And I'm cool with that ship, but it's like, at the end of the day, you're gonna be competing with someone, you know what I'm saying. You you know, people forget that you're competing on those charts.
You're not like this ship, ain't like putting it out. And I think it's got to the point where people feel like, you know, I'm gonna put my ship out and it's gonna do what it's gonna do. But eventually your money give sucked up. You know what. Everybody want to be. Everybody want to be the chief. Yeah. So for me, like a good n R is like like um or what a good n R is looking for? Right?
You're looking for something different for one, because you have a lot of people right now sounding and saying like I mentioned auto tune, um uh. Let me just the person's look. They have to be marketable, you know, So aesthetics matter. I don't care who say what. Like your niggas can be ugly. We like ugly niggas, like, but niggas. I don't like ugly niggas. So you don't like medium ugly niggas. Okay me, you said ugly, you don't say medium ugly. Whatever child can't be he can't be too ugly. Yeah.
So like the person's look, we're looking for a different sound um, A teachable person, you know. Yeah, I got a couple of people. Now, I went through twenty pages of of the the the commission commissions you. I went through twenty pages that it's a lot of foolery out there and there's only a couple of people, A couple of rappers, a couple of singers, um, a couple of alternative stars like I put star buddy names. You know what I'm saying. I really like, I don't what. Check
this out. Just check this out. This is what we're gonna do. We got to get you involved. We got to get you involved. Yes, need you to help. We need you to help us put this ship together because we need some entertainment, need some vibes, we need some conversation, We need some fucking like we need we need. We need somebody to come out there and had that big as broom when that ship wrong, just squeak that ship right on. You can't tell me I wasn't Simon last night.
You were Simon Cow and I was drunk. So I was saying, man, yeah, yeo, we have both of y'all. Why would you have both of y'all? Like, are you guys coming? Are you were coming? Say when we're there? Hold on, y'all got the thirty people together because because because what I what I read was you guys are looking for thirty qualifiers, right, and you're gonna narrow it down to five people. So have y'all already done the thirty qualifiers like this three day showcase? Yeah, yeah, we
don't know. We don't ship. Now. We got we probably got about probably got a few more than that, but not qualifiers don't mean getting to the last right, right, That's that's what I want to be involved. You know, you want to get to the real ship, like you basically said, Hey, I don't want to know. I want to do all of it that because I want to see the bad that's the funny ship, that's the that's you know what A want to be a boss to
your boss. Want to look this one dude, This one dude said he had a dream and he got a regular that he got a record label from Sean Garrett. I'm gonna you dream of Sean for me. Names Nathan, I go work, Mike Melonio. I'm from Costa Rica and I would like to meet Easter with you. I ain't got the Monoli something, Michael, Yeah, chake your money right here. First of all, yeah, it's not real he manifest opportunity. Yeah, he manifested that opportunity with his dream. He definitely got
some positivity going in his mind. But that that I don't I don't really know. I'm gonna let you'll see that's the good thing about I'm gonna let you all just ext it out like that. No disrespect to him, No, no disrespect because he manifested and that's beautiful. Like, let's see somebody say, eight months ago, I dreamed of this and look at it happening, right, and man, you know what, I ain't gonna lie. I'm manifested. I feel like I'm
manifested my my career, to be honest, my beginning. Yeah, man, like it was. It was really amazing, um, because you know my mom, I lost my mom like a year to the day that. Yeah, it was leaked, you know, yeah it was leaked. It was never you know, the label never officially put that record out. I'm sorry about your mother, Thank you, thank you. I mean, you know, my my story is. You know, I'm gonna do a biopic,
um on my life. You know what I'm saying, because my story is definitely um, you know, it's definitely something that um, I feel like you know, people can look at and say, damn, you know he really he really went through Yeah, like and you know what it's not. I don't feel like my my life is more of a typical story. Um, you know, because I am from the hood. I'm from Counting count Roll, Atlanta, Jordan. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean gratty baby saying.
But then you know, but seeing my you know, most
of all, like just seeing my mother go through. Um, you know, my mom was like raping, left for dead when I was like four years old, and um, I remember everything, everything distinctively about that situation and like you know, police come into my house and you know, my mother went to the to the she went to the grocery store to buy some cigarettes and um, you know, you know somebody walked up to her and and put it down in the stomach int order to get in the car.
You know what I'm saying. And it was really you know, for like that's something that I never forgot, like it never, Um, it's never really lost my mind. It was such a motivation for me, you know to never quit never um, never stopped dreaming. Um. And then you know, to lose your mom eventually, Um like I lost my mom to cancer because she liked smoke cigarettes, you know. Um, And you know, I just try to you know, I try to tell you know people and I don't even like
to say younger people. I just like tell people like man, you know, life is about learning from other people's experiences. So you know, I like to write, you know, I love to write you know, songs to help, you know, to help change life and shape shape culture. You know what I mean? She she what what our next um day is looking like you know what I'm saying about next next week or whatever? You know. But I didn't mean to go sad on y'all try because your cigarettes
was a coping mechanism for her own trauma. Right yeah, you know you know what was music and that was something healthy and it helped other people with their trauma. So that's the blessing in that. Yeah, Like I like y'all. I like, I like y'all show like I like you both of y'all. Like what's your sons? I'm a Gemini. I'm a cancer, that cancer see that Gemini? So wow, she's so out of control. It's not wait a minute, wait wait wait wait figg Right here here, hold on,
who do you think. I know I'm the Gemini, but who do you think more wile i'd be in the house, I don't even be going but but you know, don't be the ones. Don't be the killers though, don't be the ones the ones that be in the house. Why get you a girl to be in the house where she would be going on in the house? Right, Sean? I Pisces? Oh, I like that's piss all right, Cancer
and pisces, those are my favorite. I likes that's my favorite. Honestly, yes, it is, um not because you know, I can see why you like pisces, because you know, cancers are really like my mom was a cancer. By the way, my mom was her birthday. I'm okay, she's the beginning of cancer. Yeah, you see almost of she was a gemin nancer because when your birthday June eighth, like, I'm a real Gemini June eight, Kanye West birthday, Oh my god. You know
what ain't gonna with geminag geminage? They wow? No, like wow, you don't geminis. I feel like Geminis are like they reciprocate your energy, right, So if you're working on that though, because I'm working on not letting other people change my energy. You know what I'm saying, Because I always say, like my attitude is depending upon you. I want to be like for real, when I say I'm the same person every day, I want to be that way every day. But boy, my fucker's be trying it. Yeah, you you
ain't gonna be. You ain't gonna be. You ain't gonna be the same. Yes, I am usually the same until until yeah, well yeah, that's until it happened. Every day. You got to slap them off the biggest we'll try it. Like people be man, people be trimmed. But you know, like I was just saying, like my mom was really like my most influential, Like that was the most influential. My dad probably be like, man, this thing I always talking about his mama, but don't never talk about me.
I love my daddy too. My dad was my dad. My dad's super cool. He he's super cool. He'd just be chilling, you know, he um. You know, he really worked really hard in the military, and it was like really smart and you know, just he just laid back. He was always you know, he was he was always positive about whatever I wanted to do. He was like he was always sort of just there and supporting me,
like you know what I'm saying. But my mom was more like, you ain't even to do this, You're about to do this, and you need to do this, and you need to do that, and I was it was really, it was really, it was really great. You know that they have an Armstrom mom. Who ain't nobody like mama? Right, So let me ask you this, which one which parent do you? Alright, So to be a producer and a songwriter and artist like you are, you have to have like a level of emotional intelligence, right, So which one
do you feel like cultivated that for you? Was that your father or was it your mother that helped make you feel like passionate in your words and cultivate their emotional intelligence? That was definitely my mom. You know my mom, you know, because I always love women, like you know, I always love women. All successful men are surrounded by women. M good women. It's defined you know, you know what
it's you know what's messed up. It's like you'd be like, yeah, you know, I'm sort of like one of those guys who try to be in a relationship. I'm like I'm a one. I'm a one. I'm a one. Woman's man. H m hmm. But it's just be hard. It's like the one the more you like, the more you like with that one woman. It's like the more women that like really like you, and the more that that woman is like feeling like insecure, you know what I'm saying, or like like feeling like you know, like she's not
enough that it is tough. So are you making that woman feel like she's not enough because you're sometimes you would be insecure. It's like really nothing you can do about it, Like you're gonna be making yourself miserable trying to make her happy when she's just she's she's going through it exactly like like like like like that's that's true, Like that's the ship that's hard. Like and I'm not speaking on any thing personally today, it's just in particular.
It's just it's just you know, it's a it's a good point of view, like it's I've definitely experienced, Um, you're right, like like it's just like you know, it's funny that tell me you like you're saying, oh, is this something you're doing I'm playing like you could be like you know what a man don't want. A man wants a strong ass woman like a man I don't want, Like my mom was strong ship my mom. I'm sure my dad was like ship, I know I got incredible
ass woman. You know what I'm saying, Because you want to one mean that's strong assertive about about her ship as certaive is cool, like, but it's just like I don't really like something, like I don't like being pushed around the ship, like you know, some girls just bosxing his hell and they just want to tell you what to do all the time. And I'm like a man, like I already figure my ship out, like I need you to figure your ship out, like you ain't gotta
be bossing me around. Like let's like let's be a let's be let's be a team, you know what I'm saying. And the team don't always necessarily mean like we got we should be like we could be sweets to each other all the time. We ain't gotta be sweeting to each other sometimes like you could always you can make it like I think I think someone don't like you gotta key, so I feel like some girls feel like I disrespect this just on the date like once a week.
I gotta disrespect who are these women and how old them? Listen, women don't and they're probably be light skinning with a fat ass, ain't it. I'm the one that brown babies overhead yead, I don't know, ain't doing no more light skins? I don't. I don't like. I just love my sister's period, like man, ain't nothing like a you know, like a big as like a like a like a brown skin with a big as. You're crazy, But I like, you know,
I just I don't have no preference. Just love my sister's period like fucking chocolate or or or fucking light as motherfucker. I don't like. It's not even about that. It just man, what's your relationship status right now? Damn man, come on to this chill like let's just keep the ship moving, you know what I'm saying, They keep this ship. You see, you don't have got a girlfriend? I got I gotta go, Oh good, what's her sign? What's your what's what's your girlfriend's song? And no, like why, I
just want to how what's that? You don't even know her birthday? On her birthday coming up? Oh past I passed? Yeah, yeah, no, no, I just passed virgo virgos pimping careful virgos, the men and women. They'd be pimping burgo vigo women sometimes that pee standing up sometimes and next question we can go to the next questions to tell you something. You know what's funny. You know what's funny. See, don't take this the wrong way, like, don't don't y'all, don't y'all take
this ship weird, like it don't not weird. Don't y'all take this ship too far. But I remember, like I used to be, like, man, Beyonce is so amazing, Like I used to be like, oh, man, one day, I want me a fucking virgo, like jay Z is the luckiest nigga on earth, Like I'm for real, Like I was like man, man, like man. She used to come and smelling like you'd be like where did they even make that? Perfect? Like is that a that's just her
aura smell? Her ship needs to be like I used to be like, Damn, I don't know, man, I always looked at her as a sister. But but I'm just like man, if I have you know, if I ever dated, I mean, one day I want for my baby so your girlfriend smelled like Beyonce. That's what she's saying. Uh, you know what, my baby dode. She she definitely she definitely keep herself smelling amazing. I will say that, like, I ain't going a lot, like I love how my girl take care of herself. She really takes care of
that body. That body beat right, okay, girl, Yeah yeah, So I like, I like, I like to go to before we get into anything else, let's pay some bills real quick. I have a game for you that was inspired by the hair queen Big Moyo. Shout out to Big Moyo, he has a Dirty thirty. Shout out to you. I created a game and based off your game. So I'm gonna ask you a question, is this or that? And you're gonna pick which one it is? Okay, which every one? All right, my god, it is just a
few alright. So so what's your best work hours early start or night out? It depends. It really depends because when I'm in like my my physical regiment, like I gotta get myself like a super duper good ship because you know my record me and take that record call call open. Okay, Well we gotta talk about that. But go ahead, go ahead with the game. Talk about it right now. Let's talk about it. What's the concept of that song? And let me show you. I'm gonna play
you a little something, you know. Go ahead. You know I like your words. You know, I like y'all ship. You know. You know what I'm saying. You're here for it. So you wrote on this or produced it? What you do on this song? I'm singing on it. Yeah, I wrote it's my it's my singles. It's one of my Okay, yeah, so it's it's me intanke. But it's too edgy'all. I might get too eddy for your show man whatever. And we will talking about coaches all types of stuff. Ahead,
go ahead, go ahead. I ain't asking you the questions yet. Okay, So we're gonna say that. We're gonna say that I'm gonna do I'm gonna do that. We do that answers, okay, okay, alright. But I was saying to answer your question is I would say it varies because you know, sometimes in the morning, I'll be sucking with the um. I mean, sometimes I'm I'm really up early and I'm focused on my ship, like I'm just in order, you know, what I'm saying. And then sometimes you know what I'm saying. I'm just
I'm just living life and and and just enjoying. So I like to work late. And she's like, yeah, okay, that's fair. Monogamy or open relationship? He first of all the time, you gotta stop talking sexy, like, stop, what happened? I listened? You can you can pass on any one of these quests. He started twinkling your eye. That looks just ain't gonna look away like I'm looking at it. I'm leading computer. Hey leok as virgos be fighting? Why
so which one you're passing on? That one passing on? No? No, no, what's the question. Monogamy are open relationship? No? Definitely, like I'm nice, Yeah, yeah, I mean open relationship. I don't know. That's crazy here, open relationship like that you don't relationship. I thought that's what the song was gonna be about me too. What is it? Ain't about relationship, It's about
the vagina being bus wide open? Hello all right? Um fucking or love making mm hmm, like y'all show um damn food fucking ship saying what if we tom out don't cook meal or fine dining oh man, fine, I don't cook me on. I mean I fought with that too now, But I mean fine dining. I like to work hard, you know what I mean. I like to work hard, play hard to my girl out. I love my girl out, and have a good you know, have a good meal. I like I enjoy that. Yeah, I
like to see my baby kid. You know what I'm saying. Let's get a little stuff together. So in a movie, would you rather be the villain or the hero? Generally? I want to be the hero. I want to I want to save the day all the time. But I don't mind being a villain. Don't mind. I feel like, you know, I feel like Loki. I'm a villain. I'm the villain in the game. Like I feel like I'm I'm under I feel like I'm underrated because I ain't really like one of those people like the kids have.
So I don't you know what I mean. Like, I'm just I'm definitely I'm gonna go against the grain sometimes just because I'm gonna try to do what's right versus what is popular, you know what I'm saying. And by the way, y'all, when you talk about the Summer Walker album, manout Love, Summer Walker, this game, let's talk about that. She's going crazy. That's gonna be Like I think this is like one of the best R and B albums, the last she got her shockers together. She's not playing
with these niggas out here, this ship right here. Now, I'm gonna tell you all something like I'm gonna keep it all the way real for like, for real, this R and by This motherfucker album is hard. It's hard and girls gonna go crazy? Is there some is she going through some ships? So I feel like it's gonna be some pain in there and really not she got a new man. She didn't really she had to go.
She had to writing right. Maybe when writing right, she going she going through some ship because I mean heartbreakers, motherfucker. You know what I mean. Sometimes you go you know you you you tend to you know, you tend to um. You know, you're tend to rely on other things. You know what I'm saying, because you like, like I ain't know a lot, like like like I didn't like I didn't really get any business like that, you know what I'm saying. I just was supporting her, and I was
trying to support the situation. You know what I'm saying as best as I possibly can. But um, I love I really did. I really did grow to love Summer Um just as an artist. And this is a person, you know what I'm saying, because I felt like for a young lady that that's this young m she's light. Actually I can feel it through the phone, like you know, like she's light to feel it through the music. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She She definitely is a like I've never in my
life for it with anybody like her. I thought. I just thought that I like, like, like you know, you get to a point where, like you know, my career, like you know, fifty two number one that I don't know, you know what I'm saying, Like hands down been the
most successful songer and producer of my generation. Food them, right, But but you think you'd be thinking like yo, out of out of seeing it and this just girls like she's just a different because she's an emotional she's she's an emotional person on a different level, you know what I'm saying. But the way she sees ship is what is what is what? Really those are wrenching it, you
know what I mean. Like she's already she's very passionate about love, but then at the same time, she would kill her you know what I mean, Like I just can't hear vulnerability and her voice when I listened to her music, I can hear that she's being her authentic, true self. I can't hear pain. I can hear like all this stuff in her voice. And that's why I love her so much. And it's so and you know what, you know, it's it's like it's like it's like she's
it's so effortless. It's like it's like working with Summer. Her voice is just so effortless. It's very effortless. Like she don't she don't like to get out of her pocket, you know what I'm saying, Oh, what she likes to do. But then when you can take her out of her pocket, it's still it's just her and it's just beautiful. Like it's just it's just an acquired and it's gonna be hard to me. It's it's all up to her because you know, to me, I feel like someone could be
one of the biggest artists in the world. She don't want the fame, like she don't want the publicity that comes along with it. Like she wants to be able to make good music and have the people that funk with her that she enjoy it. Yeah, people with her. You know. The key to life though is understanding right and understanding that when you do become popular to a lot of people, you're gonna be jo you know what I'm saying. That's the hard part that comes with it.
So I think she you know, she's just really a dope as. She's really a dope artist, and you know she's really sweet. She just tried to you know, she tried to express herself the best way she can. I mean, you forget some time. She's so young too, you know
what I mean. Well, we got some fucking bombs on this joint like this, I can't wait to be holding my costum me goes and live juice in my house like ywhere Yeah, off cost of Me goes now because I feel like when when everybody started getting on some ship, I'll be like, maybe I shouldn't be drinking this. I'm back to my dog Huio because I'm scared now y'all, everybody on cost of Me goes. I'm like, I'm good.
I like drinking that right now? You like that Cosmy goes, but that girl right there, boy right now, I know she'd be having period. So yeah, So so the album, the album is really really good, y'all on the person who comes out really soon. I want to lead a surprise y'all. I know, like like because y'all seven y'all seven girls. So you're gonna definitely with the first single, oh yeah, oh yeah, and it's gonna catch you all by surprise. I think I think it's gonna catch you
all about surprise. I don't I don't think that. It's definitely what y'all expecting interesting, but at the same time, at the same time, you're gonna feel the conversation. I want you to tell me. I really wish I really wish I could. I really wish I could have a closed session. I wanted to get you all opinion. I really wish I could. Yeah. Yeah, we come in the day like there, we could have did this live? Is that a problem? Man? I would a lot of role here.
You ever get any type of writer's block when you're making music, like how long does it take you to make a song? And like, um, because this is your first single single since when was your last single? Right? Man? But you know, you've been making me the music for other people. But yeah, like no, this is my first single that's gonna be coming out like probably in the
last six years. Thing. You know what, I just I just just kind of unselfish too with myself, you know what I'm saying when it comes to like given, I really enjoy making music for artists and helping them get to their uh you know what I'm saying, get to the get the where they're trying to go. Like I enjoyed trying to help artists meant, you know what I'm saying. And um so sometimes that's more interesting than me than
performing on stage. I enjoy it, I really do. But you know, I like trying to help artists get to they get to their goal. You know what I'm saying. Shout out my man usher um ship like he just you know, he's going, you know, going going crazy in Vegas and doing you know this crazy books. I want some musher bucks. Goddamn. Uh yeah, you know, have y'all got a chance to see did you get a chance to show? No? I want When is the next one? I think it's like November December, right, Yeah. The big
thing is like so he's doing this. Um. The finale is the New Year's the New Year's Eve Show, the New Year's Crazy but bananas. Yeah, so that would be something that would be real cool um to go to. So you know, y'all got a man. Y'all got now a j you quiet? You got a man agent? No, I don't go on. I'm tired of these niggas. All right, That's where I'm at right now, just for a little while, ye sabbatical, she did. I'm ready if you are, I'm waiting and whatever, and youven be calling me like, man,
I'm sick of this nigga. Man I want I'm ready for They're gonna be sick of real. Yeah, man, y'all love me. Look, before we move on to the next segment, let's have a word for our sponsors. I got more questions, all right, drink or smoke? Drink? Okay, smoking smoking? How you man smoker me? How your girls go crazy? I like we did sex. That's the only time I like, Mari wanted. That's it ship to do. I can't be walking around high in the middle of the day, I
mean neither, but at night I'll walk around just fine high. Okay, Acids come on, ask me all right, mega megatory what you get passed? Okay? Going on in that game? Right? Driver? Car service Ship? It depends. I'm to drive. You know what I'm saying. I'd like to pull out my ship. You know, Man, I got the Batman, I got, I got the back, I got that g H stage. That's like the black This is Matt Black nice and I got a big and I got a big. So you like being behind the wheel? Yeah yeah, Drake, car you
can pass if you don't wanted to know. Hell no, you gotta tell us what was it? Drink or Kanye? You know what it would like? Hey? Not both of them? Niggas like ship, Drake, I'm born crazy period. Kanye Ship going nuts. But Kanye, Oh man, I ain't gonna lie. Man, that drinkes it going. That's where I'm at in my life right now. You know what I'm saying. That ship drinking is talking about. That's where I'm at. Kanye doing Kanye. Kanye is just Kanye is in space like he's just
a genius. AJ is in space with Kanye. I'm here with you, Drake, were you and Drake? Netflix? M damn? Is that a thing like Netflix? What you Tube like, so what made things more to get movies on there? So it is a thing. Yeah, net, let's be Netflix. I'm probably gonna go I know, I know, you know YouTube the future for sure? Um ship like Netflix right now they gotta Netflei's gotta ask new ship they like, we always added some new ship. All the house parties
just winning on there this week. Oh the house funnies, the things you're trying to make you stay in the house on Netflix. Man, they don't want you to go nowhere? Are you still watching? Yeah? Yeah, I'm still you know what? You know what, you know what? You know what? I wanted more on Netflix. I wanted more comedy shows, like you know what I'm saying. If you want to watch comedy shows like, yeah, we take it too long for the new comedy shows. That's a fact. Have you watched
um What's Today Miss pat On? BT plus? It's good, it's real. Yeah, it's funny as hell, but it's a real it's a real nigger ship. Okay, y'all, Like for real, y'all check that out. Okay, all right, steak or seafood, I'm straight seafood, but I will tell you it's one steak. I really fun with that wine steak at Houston. That's your ship. How you getting cooked any Well, my nigga, don't worry what that bloody asked me. He didn't. I can't do that. You gotta ask me. You gotta put
some found that all right. Democrat a Republican, I mean ship, I'm still Democrat no matter what, because I was. I can't from the Democratic House. Like. But you know, but that motherfucking income right once that income getting to a certain level, the Republican Republican policies just say, you you allign yourself with policies as opposed to people or parties. That's like, that's how you appease black people. Okay, because
I don't ship the Republicans be on like the people. Yeah, but the money okay, yeah, but the people all right, so happy and poor? Are rich and sad? That's a good question to you thought about teh damn. I guess I'd be rich and uh. I don't know. I like being happy. I'd rather be happy. That's what I said. A said she'd be rich and sad. I'll be happy. What I saw was it depends on what country you in. If you in the United States. You know this ship, how this ship said up doll, you want to be
hella fucking depressed broke? Okay, it's a happy I still want to be happy though, Yeah, happy over money. Happy I figure out how I figure out how to get some money. I'm gonna figure out how to get some money,
but be happy. Yeah, it ain't nothing worse than being in a mansion and miserable, right, you want to be miserable, you can figure out, you can buy in the shack, happy, dancing around and think about yeah what you you know you gotta Yeah, I rather rather be me and my girl figure out how to you know, card and try to figure it out with my baby. Yeah, m hmm, okay, vaccine or trust your own immune system? Mhmm. You know
I'm gonna trust on God. You know. It's amazing to see like the people that that's from, like the mindful, this community and ship, like y'all begin vaccinated. Ain't no way y'all trust yourself not to speak against vaccinations, like because I mean, by all means it's your choice, but for whatever reason, your choice is being taken away. And when we're talking about this damn vaccine line. But you
can have a question. I mean, what y'all think about what y'all think about the vaccine, like, because you know what's throwing me the funk off is like I mean,
hows people die from the vaccine like that ship right there. Well, what happens is because when you okay, if you people who got the virus, they have more immunity than people who got the vaccinated, because you are enabling your body to produce the antibodies, not to anybody, sorry, to produce like the yeah, the antibodies to to to kill the to kill the disease. So what your body is now dependent on that vaccination. You know, people virus absolutely and
they're and they're taking it harder to you. Still you still got underlying conditions. You know what I'm saying. You still gotta eat healthy, You still gotta exercise, You still gotta dream is out here. Don't drink water, dog just just causing me goes. I can't go to sleep with out water. There's people who don't drink The big goes is my vaccine, bitch, I ain't got it yet. It's like stupid, all right, regular club or shirt club mm hmm,
club pushing up? Okay, Um, artists makes me tripping too much, and then it ain't got time to be club. All right, everybody focused on the ass around in the stroom. Club. Nobody's focused on each other. Yeah, I'm here for that artists our producer. You touched on it earlier. Yeah, Um, it depends on what it is, you know. I'm really I'm really really focused on my out to coming after this summer. So I'm definitely focused on my artists ship. I gotta come back outside and see them. Yes, I
know we're excited for that, alright. Heaven or reincarnation? Which one do you believe? Heaven? Okay, do you believe in reincarnation? I do? Yeah, explain it to me. That's why I don't kill bugs. You want to come around, come back as a damn Charleston cockroach. I don't mind that. If I come back out of the roads, it ain't gonna be that long and ain't gonna step on you, and right you come right back, right, y'all? Really y'all really do y'all really do believe that people come back in
different forms? Yeah? Yeah, I just think that we're energy. We go back to the source and then we come back again and then we go back to the source when we come back again, unless you kill you yourself. I think if you can miss suicide, like you don't keep coming back with the same transgressions until you fix You're still gonna come back. We got to fix it. I think you might you die black and you come back at some little Asian little girl, little are you
come back as a sad roach? Just a sad roach? All right? Is the Earth flat around? I think it's around me too, AJ think it's flat. I think it's around. We never see nobody fall off the edge yet exactly right. It's big the fun you're surrounded by water, but it okay. Why would you think you'd fall off the edge of a flat earth, But you wouldn't fall off the edge of a round Earth because it's around Earth and it's keeping the what is it the force? Gravity? It keeps us?
Girl theories whatever? Girl theories? Girl? Pro choice pro choice or no choice? Pro choice? Facts? Yeah, I can't get beat up? All right? When you in your car? What two songs are you playing on repeat right now? Playing Drake's um? Uh? What's your name of a song? It's my jam? Yes? Like yeah, I like uh, raise my mind. Oh yeah that is going raise my mom. Yeah, like I just really like, I don't know, man, that's just it's just a uh to me. It's just you know,
it's just like I just like chilling. I like chilling, you know what I mean? Play yeah play yeah yeah yeah Gray Mine. And what's the second one? You got another one? I like? Um Drake Whole Ship is on repeat. I probably will go. You like tears you like? I think I like I like that one too, but I like the one him and jay Z. Oh. Yeah, I just got the Whole Drake album. Whole Drake album right now. Yeah, it's crazy. And then what is your favorite song of
yours that you created? Wow? Man, um, do you all remember this song I did for This Kid and the Teeth? That's your favorite song? Where you emotional that? How when you wrote that? I mean love, I'm really like a lover. Oh, I don't know, man, A lot of them songs I just really love, like I love of course, I love, Yeah, I love. Breakup was like one of my favorites. That's one of my favorites. Breakup is she the reason you
wrote that? Right? That was the Yeah, that was like what I remember going through it to that motherfucker's song right there. That was like you was going through some ship. Yes, man, I ain't gonna lot like. That was the first song that I ain't gonna lot like. I was a little scared because that's when I first went in with um that she Charlotte. Honest, I didn't know what the hell I was gonna do. Um And that was the first song.
And that was just kind of like, uh so did that song come before being a mortgage broker in South Carolina or after that? Yeah, Like I was just kind of h I was just kind of like, man, I used to write some real fuckings, Like I used to write a lot of real emotional songs, songs that really made sense to me from the perspective of like how people really feel saying ship that they saying ship that um that people felt but they were kind of afraid
of saying it or didn't know how to say it. Yeah, I think and she the reason is it's like a Yo, I can't wait, y'all hear this one. Just something walk out. It's it's good like that, Like it's it's like them kind of songs. And it's like she's too hard, like she got them songs. Yeah, this is why I remember being laid out on the floor like why this bit not me? Yes, right, you're gonna have me called that nigga.
You're gonna have me text that nigger right now, Like boy, fuck you for that old ship from a long time ago. It's still fuck you. You know. It was just it was really like you know what I'm through with love girl T shirt? H sold you lose my bread? I was like it was a great time alright. One last question? What is the creative process to write something like that? Like are you just like in your room like button naked and some cowboy boots and it's sitting in the
Indian style, like what are you doing? Like a lot of times, um, you know, it's kind of like if I'm in with an artist like be or the Girls or something, I kind of do a lot of probing, you know what I'm saying and just kind of like ask a lot of questions, ask uncomfortable questions, like you kind of like you sort of like take a perspective on what you kind of think is going on with them or with the artist, and then you kind of like evaluate, um, their situations, their scenarios and find a
clever way of um putting the perspective to it. You know what I'm saying and saying it in a way with it makes a lot of sense. But I've never been said before. You know. That's why a lot of the titles that I sort of came over. That's a true talent. You're very very talented, very talented. Because that ship had me laid out. Yeah, man, like I'm through it love? Did you like? Did you like I'm doing? I did? That's another one. That's another one that had
me drinking too much all yeah. Yeah. It's amazing how men can right, you know, feeling out? Yeah, because they Yeah, maybe the wife put us in our feelings. That's why. Yeah, you know it's like yeah, like seeing you know, it's almost like you know ship, It's like what is my sister going through? Or where is you know, what is my aunt's going through? Like ship, my mama? You know what I'm saying, right, my my my access or like you know, how did y'all like um Blige enough crying? Yes?
Mary J Blige already so arrist man. I think the Summer Walker, I think like her her next album because of what she was going through. With London on the track. I'm anticipating hearing some of the pain that I heard in Mary Jay's songs, you know, like when she was going through you could feel that ship. You know, want man, I want to play you some ships so bad. Yeah,
don't do it. Look we come into Atlanta. Don't even worry about it, because we're about to come to this showcase and we're gonna we're gonna listen to these these people. Now tell tell our listeners, is it's still open for submissions right now? Listen, don't stop putting in your submissions. You know what I'm saying, Because as they say, there's rules and then there's rules to be broken. Mm hmm.
So continue to continue to submit your because we're always looking for that next You never know who that next person is gonna be in the next next opportunity. So ship, keep keep spending your ship. There is a deadline, so you know, you never know. You might just squeeze in it. Right if you're good, If you're good, see your ship in. Shane gonna pick you eight y'all, y'all gonna help us
take though, y'all gonna help us pay. We got some we got some super cool people gonna be there too, Um like my man Dallas Shaus and the Legend the Hall of Famer, Um Dallasauce and the Hall of Famer, um CeeLo Green. You know what I'm saying. We gotta bring then a t l out. You know what I'm saying,
like you feel. Look, so, if y'all, if y'all put your submissions out there, if you're doing a YouTube video and it's the video you already created, skip to the part where you start singing, ain't nobody gonna be listening to them long as intros? First of all, I care about there all right, If you y'all want to put your entries to U, I heart dot com slash looking for legends, right, you can upload the thirty second videos there. Like I said, no longer as intros. You want people
to get straight to the point. Makes you put your name on it so people know who the hell you are. These are just the things I saw while looking because I'm an n R. Right, like you really you you really are showing off your skill. You know, that's how you suppose it. That's how you're supposed to cut the fat off and just skip to the mother. Yes, right, Look I want to let me before we get off and we can actually do this after. But this is the one person that I liked right so far. I
put star by her name right. Her name is Lily, all right, she's giving the del vibes you see exactly. Let me say, I'm saying my notes. Don't even worry about I got the notes for you. I got on page day on and everything me in there. This is what I do for real. Let's cut on a bullshit. That's what I need to do to stay focused on your job, girl, right, do that ship? Fred? Let me see, Yeah, Lily is super dope. Lily is super dope. Hey what
is she like? What she looked like? She's white? Yeah, white girl, so that would be like a more of a and that that sounds like some stuff is out here. But she has the range and she's very pretty. Youngerl y'all listening to y'all submissions? Man, Hello, hollo hord dog. It's a real I wish I could say it's a funny one dog didn't get his old town road vibes together. Don't hate on him, alright. So I'm always taking the country, asked Nick, and trying to make it off the land,
come trying to get off the port right? All right? So one last question we do this, we do this uh segment called dumbing stories or simp series. Right, So a dumber story or some series is a time all right? We all got played? Right, everybody's gotten played? You know got played? Yeah? Yeah, I got played before? Not that
much right, the get fucked up? Right? Right? Can you share with us a story where a time where a girl might have finessed you or made you think that she cared about you, or just did things that wasn't okay? Can you think of a time and share that with us? Man, let me tell you. Can I think of it that that ship was probably like I don't even think you really realize when you were getting played because you know,
you always discount that ship. It like, right, yeah, you played right, but they see it was probably more so when I was young, because I ain't never I feel like every relationship that I've been that I actually of late like probably in the last you know, I don't know, eight ten years, they were good relationships, but I just sidedly was like, hey, despite not the best, should I need to be in you know what I mean? Um?
But I remember when I was younger, like eighth grade, ninth grade, and this girl I was so in love with man I had went to I had went to Germany and came back and she had a faith ye damn. Uh so yeah, getting played. I don't really wait did she tell you the baby was yours while you was gone? And then that ain't my damn baby? Like this ain't this ain't even my vibe? Uh No, you know, I mean I really try not to. I think that's the hard part to what relationships today. It's like, you know,
you really be trying to. It took you know, it takes time for me to get into relationships. Like I like to kick it and just hang out and ship, you know, have a good time, and then you get a chance to know a person. But it's like it's kind of sun up sometimes when girls be like trying to rush into ship even like like let's just right, yeah, Like so it just gets a little weird like that.
So those are those are the signs that sometimes make you feel like so I hate to be in a relationship when I'm kind of looking at a person like out the side of my eyes ship all the time, because that's the ship that I think some people don't realize, like that's the ship that that's uncomfortable, so uncomfortable I feeling. I just like to kick it and have a that's
a really good time. And yeah, man, she get the person that don't get to know you, and y'all just build and be cool and you know, rush and then that's when the ship is really fun. It's like a lot of women women are rushing men into situations and they didn't stay too long. Sometimes it could be sixty five and I'm ready now, damn viagra no more. So what does that so? What does that mean? That is
that being like y'all should be so good? Job ready to like y'all be at that point we are like, damn, really, I'm really ready to go back. I can see a future with this person. Let's build. Let's see if we can build. It's hard to build when you don't know where y'all at as far as commitment, like you just be uneasy. Like I don't think women like to feel uneasy about whoever it is that they're exactly time, Yes,
but come on now, like I get that. Yeah, because the minute she pulled away, then you want to get in a relationship the minute. This woman you've been chilling with next flip flicks and chilling and traveling within all that the minute like she starts pulling away. Now all of a sudden, you want to be in a committed relationship with the next Yeah, I think was important. Also, it's like, don't make somebody feel like they gotta do some ship, because that ship's not really real, you know
what I'm saying. It's almost like if a man is making a decision that okay, cool, you're leaving him, and now they all of a sudden want to be in a relationship with you, that's not really real. That's just like trying to hold onto you. So really, you know what I'm saying, You definitely ain't getting the nigga, Like you're not getting the whole person. You're kind of getting a person who's just latching on to the idea of
y'all being together. You want to, you want to you want a person to buy into you, you know what I'm saying on their own, like, hey, all of this like I'm sucking in here, like you know what I mean, And that just takes a little time, Like, especially when you're dealing with nigga with money. Like there's so many people putting on you know, different faces and for different reasons,
you know what I'm saying today. So it's just like, give a man a chance to just like enjoy the idea of you, the essence of you, like getting to know, you know, getting nigga want to love your dirty drus, you know, giving the opportunity Like that's fair, But I'll be taking too long. Man, you don't take too long. The philosophy, philosophy, Why I buy the cow when I'm getting the milk for free, and y'all will milk the cow forever until a woman will be like, look, the
motherfucking milk is closed. Got damnit, nigga, there's no more milk. The milk is done. Let's see. That's the point though. If it's good milk, the nigga gonna coming back for that bil. Why not trying to make a nick because you can't make a man. You can never y'all, Mama told you all this. You cannot make a man do ship. Stop trying to make a man do something. That's that that think the nigger you want? You do not want to nigger to be under pressure like I'm gonna tell
you like like I want to. I want to like I want to, I want to love my girl unconditionally, right whoever my girl? Maybe you know what I'm saying, because you know what you've been a relationship with people that the worst thing is like you're in a relationship with somebody three or four years and ship and you realize they said they are who they are. You know what I'm saying. I should make you mad as motherfucker.
So you know you did all this ship or the who they are, you just realize you don't like with it, y'all exactly, you know what I'm saying, And that should take a little time. So it's like, I don't know. I just think, you know, if somebody's forcing me to do something, I'm y'all in the same way. If theyre trying to force you to do something, generally, y'all gonna pull back. Don't think we should? Then why are you rushing?
Trying to create healthy This is my ship. I'm sorry, I'm just trying to create healthy boundaries and what you're saying just doesn't align with those. That's my ship fucking as down, all right, Sean man, we got to wrap this, shut up, listen. I want to be a part of finding a legend. I don't know how we're supposed to make that, Halfred, you already got a job. You have already. I just want to come and be there for comedict it with you. We're in there. We talked back. Okay,
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