EP 20 " A Seat at the Table" with Jeanine, India Monae, and Davonne Reaves

they're all booming in real estate. One is even a hotel owner, right, So listen, these are women who are getting to the bag. They're sharing their experiences with us. Um even a little bit about their relationships. You know, you can't come on we talked back and not talk about these niggas. So we'll be all in people's business because that's where we do. So tune in. Thank you ladies for joining us so much. Thank you have you,

thank you for cutting here. So um, tell us all your names and how you got started in the real estate industry. So we're gonna start with India. Listen today, I am staying investor here based in Atlanta. My entry into this game is a little bit of a hell of a story. It's a long story, so um, let's see if I can shorten it. So I was an entrepreneur, right, I was a fashion stylace and um a clothos store owner of Bouti owner and I owned my store at

the time for a few years. And I was working full time, and I did a pop up shop on right, So I did this puple shops, worked all day with starving.

I was leaving a pop up shop at like nine o'clock um, on way to a restaurant, and out of the blue, this this car comes flying up the street doing like almost ninety on residential street and smacked the car that I was in, super super super hard, so hard that my car went back up the street and ended up in the patio of a restaurant here in Atlanta, and our car hit a waitress and she broke some

ribs stopped because of a tree. Right. And so I was a passenger at the time, and I guess I was just in shock because I tried to jump out car. Our cars like smoking. It was just a bunch of chaos, you know. It was a bunch of people outside of the restaurant and I started to like pull myself up out of the car and I couldn't move. I was stup um. The car was smashed down on my feet literally, so I'm saving to pull my left foot out of it,

but my right foot was stuck. So it took forty minutes for the paramedics, firefighters, the police, pedestrians, white folks, strangers, all trying to get this car off of my foot, cutting pieces piece by piece because they didn't want to cut bridge um. And so that happened. And by the time I got out of the chair, I mean the car,

my feet was both of them were completely shattered. So I have like eleven metal plates through my left foot and a couple of schools my right foot and had to get emergency surgery the next day and I ended up in a wheel chair for about six months. Wow. So that that that kind of begins this charity, right because in that chair, I realized I had to create passive income. I had to create strange the vicom that

we're gonna flow whether I was walking or not. Especially just dawn on me, Like you know, I had always want to invest in real estate, but we always think we have time got started that's an amazing story. A lot of people may not have made it the way you have have that to have that happened to them. So yeah, that's where that financial literacy coming because you know, a lot of people come into money all the time. You know, we like to think that, oh, there's no

money in the black community. It's plenty money. We just have bad spinning abits. They get their bodies done exactly and guess what, that ass ain't even working And I don't know that as laying on their stomach riding home. Okay, what'd you say, hey, j to walk in a call center, Yes, to get that fat ass to sit on it all day in a call center, Like, it does not make sense to me. If you're gonna use the ass, if you're gonna get the ask please, you're bit God, I'm

sorry something. Tell us your story how you got started. So I got started act. I started working as a front that's agent at the Higher Regency Atlanta. So I've been in the industry for about fourteen years and I probably was at the High for about six and a half years. I mean I worked probably every position you could think of, well, I want to say every position, every shift, because I mostly stayed in the front office. I did cast force, meaning I travel to different hotels

to help open and to help train. And I was just like, you know what I need, I need to do something else, right. I love the benefits, I love the people that worked with but I just needed something that was a little bit more challenging. And so an opportunity came and it was an unpaid internship. UM, because I knew I wanted to get out of operations, but it was hard for me to you know, go into corporate. It was like, oh, staying operations, right. Um. I didn't

go to school for finance. I didn't go to school for real estate. So I had a lot of strikes against me. UM, which didn't help me, you know, trying to transition into commercial real estate or trying to transition into investing hotel investing. And so unpaid internship came along my way. I took up for about three months. UM, that was part of about three months, and UM, I was like, you know, I like this, this is cool. That was my introduction to the merchant real estate. That

was my introduction to the hotel ownership. That was my introduction to the transactional side. That was when I saw the possibilities of actually developing and owning a hotel, and so I took that. I paid internship, like I said, stay there three months, and then I they kept me on and UH say I stay there for about two years. I went to Boston. Uh and I was there for

about two years. And at the time, my portfolio or hotels that I was asset managing was about probably north of a billion dollars um that I had to oversee and help oversee and oversee the portfolio. And I just saw the amount of well, you know, because we had access to folks, you know, uh, professionals shaking the council. I'm like, what is that is? It's real like you had there many zeros. I had to do a deble check. Right, it's like over like sixty millions at back right a manute.

Now I'm in the wrong I'm in the wrong position, right, you know what I mean? Because it was the actual it's like you know, bank Satan and everything. And so I was like, wait a minute, I'm helping these folks bill they brand, you know, I'm helping oversee their portfolio. And I was like, you know, that's something that I would like to do for myself. So two thousand and seventeen, I've ventured into entrepreneurship right and now started my own

company called the Varne Group UM. And then two thousand nineteen UM I partnered with one of my UM college friends, Jessica Myers, and we formed Epic Collective where and UM in two thousand twenties when we acquired our first property partner with NASA invest nets I don't Ohio and we acquired our first hotel property and UM L ringo U Oklahoma, um so home two seeks eighty five round. So that was that's my story, when my journey into a hotel

on the ship. That's amazing. That's amazing story. Now, who asked you this? Because that's something like really huge to jumping too. Were you affected by fear at all like I did? UM, I was a lot of people told me I tried to partner. Was so funny, right, I caught a partner with a lot of people because I wasn't. I was fearful that I couldn't do it. I felt I felt like that I had to do with others. I didn't have enough money like I just because this is what I was surrounded by you know, I didn't.

I wasn't around people who looked like me. I wasn't around a lot of people. I'm not really around a whole bunch of old white men that's goes around, right,

white women, And that was it, right, Um. I mean I would go to conferences, will be four hundred plus people and I'm the only black person, right, and then you got that, you know, the servers and everything over there, But wasn't it was just me, And so I was fearful and finally, um, and then I even tried to partner with black women who were season who at and then you and I in it right, working each other, helping each other, and they're like no. And then black

men they always I don't want to I'm not downing them anything. It's just that they were older and you know, and my in their opinion, I was in experience. I didn't have access to capital. You know, there's just so used to doing They're used to a certain system. And I respected, I respect them, not talking bad about them anything, but I just realized that I can't wait on them for my dreams. Right. I knew I wanted to own the hotel, and so Finally, I just had to do

it on my own to figure it out. Right, Um, I had to figure out how to raise capital. Really your really, your network is really your network. And I don't people realize that, right? People think I always say that, right right, this is way way, way, way way, this is they're worth way more than anything, exactly money right now. I didn't when I was starting off. I didn't have millions and millions of dollars in my bank account. Like,

well the kids know about it, so too. But what I was able to do, I was able to pull people together. I was able to pull my network. I live for my network, and we were able to collaborate. We were to come together and we were raise capital together. Um, and then the deal just made sense. And that's how we was able to acquire the hotel. So did your network consist of any other brown people? Girl? All of them? Honey, okay, some brown people to work with. And the thing is, wait, wait, wait,

wait wait, these ladies they're not on this deal. No, no, okay, we actually make this year is so funny. But you know what what I did was I remembered how when somebody didn't really did me a chance to partner with them on the deal or didn't with me an opportunity to really invest. And so what I did was, um, I partnered with people. I worked with people who really wanted to invast who had the capital to invest, and

they're not necessarily have been knowledge. I knew I had the knowledge, UM, but partner with people who had more capital and not either were more capitalized and they would have better relationships with the banks because of the side of the NY they were on, And that's how we were able to quotes want to do. So did you have do you have any formal education? Like did you have any um? I know you said he didn't have

any education in real estate? Or did you do any everything for like hopcility and sociology but nothing like so what I do I'm doing for like finance even though you don't need to go to school for finance, economics or real estate. Also self thought right operience? Yeah, well, you know what I mean. The people who I worked with, they went to Cornell and Harvard and m I team.

So that was that, you know, I just thine, I hate to say that kind of peggy their education, but no, that's that's the that's the thing is that when Black people get ahold of anything. And that's why I think a lot of people outside of black community they're afraid of our potential because when we get ahold of some information, we excel. You don't think you're listening. They don't think we listen. I'm sure, I'm sure of people like to engratually. That's a part of the cool. It's what you like.

You can't even let them know, you know, a lot of times, alright, Janine, alright, tell us your story. All right, So my story probably falls in line with our topics night about relationships and business and all that. So um mine actually came out of, honestly, one of the worst times in my life. I was engaged to be married, planning a wedding to my daughter's father, and I was coming out of work and I got a call on Valentine's Day from another woman, and I can a hundred

Christians say, um, it spiraled me. I was like, you know what, I'm sticking working at this workerate job. I'm sticking taking their crabs overweight, UM, miserable. I don't want to do this anymore. Um And you know, like I was definitely trying to stand and depressed for a couple of months. Probably smelled like a lot of tequila. Um. But at the time I had a nanny, Mashila, who she still to this day. She's been with me, um

with my daughter. One day she came in the room and she was like, look, Um, so I think you've been in here long enough, Like you cried long enough, they did the room long enough. She's like, yeah, dressed and go out. The best thing ever happened to be um going out and getting back out kind of re sparks um my drive my desire for my life. And literally two weeks later I put my job. I took a new job. On the first day of worth, I met my now Beyonce. I was absolutely not expecting to

meet anybody. I was like, I'm just gonna you know, we always said my foy saw me, I'm gonna do me and my daughter and my friends like, oh my god, You're gonna believe in love again. It's like, yeah, girl, just gonna work out doesn't mean it's not out there for you know, God told you what I'm supposed to have. And I didn't like my now biaf at birth. I was like not sure. He was a financial advisor, and I was like, I need more, more schools, I need

life insurance, all these things. So I um get him all my business, did all my life insurance with him, financial planning boxy, and I in college plans like you just like bought me in line. And so then one day he was like, you know, what do you really want to do? And I said, well, I've always wanted to do real estate, but I just at the time didn't have the money. Um, no education whatsoever. It's that all the HDTV I have watched while I was depressed

in bed, I can't do it right. So um, he was like, your one k looked like what your equity looks like? That's the equity I who had some of that? And at the time I have been printing rooms at my house like friends, old co workers, um, people like that. And I was charging them basically my mortgage. So I was just paying my mortgage down, pay my horgage down. It's like, yeah, let's check it. He's like, hey, you know,

give about the thousand right here. It's like the markets look good just several years ago, Like we could just kind of use your house as your first one. Let's fix it up and it's like, yeah, I got some bonus money coming. I was like, I didn't have about like Tempytee grand coming, Like yeah, it's like could fix my house. Instead it's doing ugly furniture that I'm not gonna keep from American's signature this year. So well, we

got Dad in my piance. We paint at my house, my mom came, We planted my cricked yard, changed out cabinets, carpet everything, put my house on the market. I wanted their contracts above asking in three days. Ten days later, I had a little verse seventy thousand knowledge in my bank account. IF and Nick we moved in together into an apartment with my daughter and we launched business and

um from there. As I was going to do this thing, I was like, Uh, it feels like there's no other black women that I see out here, like trying to go networking events and things like that. I just didn't see us. So it's like, I wonder if I should start a group and find other women and if they want to like hang out, I get educated, teach and talk, and honestly that's where black grows. The real estate group.

So I've had black from the real estate program year and we're now at forty two thousand black women in roald Estates. It's turned into a huge platform. I teach, I coach, UM, we connect, we do deals together with a development deal on the table. UM. I mean all these chasing women I've met Sevan and India UM through

the platform. So honestly, it just changed my life. It was just one of those moments where I was like, Okay, I'm just gonna try to give you something different than to continue to like live what I call a ordinary life. I'm gonna still pratraordinary, schochtraordinary. That's been my plea focus legacy buildings for black women and family. That's what I'm feel. Not so you're you're your group doesn't consist of black

men at all. No, okay, But to my conference, I have a conference and um Kiku and have reference resorts ron August and actually a lot of women are bringing their husbands, so it'll be good. But they're literally it's just there and all sorts mentioned. So so isn't that is it not open to men? Or is just okay? So the reason why I'm asking these questions is because I have a few friends in real estate. UM A couple of UM women. But one of my guy friends, UM,

he's out in the Midwest. He does really well in real estate and he just mentioned it is crazy. He just mentioned to me a couple of weeks ago that, um, he finds like the like that the black women that are in real estate in his area, they kind of like keep secrets. They don't they don't really like, they don't really like message the men. You know what I'm saying, something like, how do I that I have some like they network? They don't network network with the only network,

you know, amongst themselves. So I do have one on one students that are males. I have a couple actually I have mails that come to the classes, but the group is specifically griven towards us that it's no shade. I love our brothers shade with them. UM. I just think that's like when we need to leg up to right. UM. I think maybe the guys may feel like a shade is mad, but the thing is like, it's no, it's

no competition. Right. So, because recently I've gotten into stock option trading and the guy I've been working with, he really just wants to mentor black women because he feels like, you know, Asian women have their Asian men, white women have their white men, and I don't know if you guys on a clubhouse, but it's like a constant battle between black women and black men on display for the world to see at this point, like what's going on. It's like, I do like clubhouse, but I feel like

everybody on there is being competition. So it's like everyone wants to level up the last speaker. So if you're like, oh, hey, yeah, I on a hotel, well I got to the booth last year, I don't. I don't. I'm sorry, I don't get that on my slone when I say I own hope real quiet, like I thank you, ridiculous. It's like, I don't know. It's kind of like vanes City, and I have a lot of friends that are like, don't

you use clubhouse? Why don't you do this? And then I'm like, I literally organically through my entire platforms up forty two thousand people with no outside marketing, no promo, just me and word them out like not that's yeah, Like there's no shade or mediafa because that you know, I could probably leave the figure if I did do some of that, but I just don't know, like that's face all the way. I know some investors from Climouse.

I had some folks investments in some of my hotels from club House, so I don't Yeah, y'all are going on tour soon, right where you're going in? Like, what's that gonna look like for you? So we're going to Atlanta. We're going to Charlotte, Charlotte. Are you Charlotte? Yeah, I'm coming. I'm coming. Charlotte's gonna be in January. Okay, that's in September. Houston is in July. Yeah, me, Miami is in Noami. So what do we have like five yeah, not including

the conference. Yeah yeah, hold on, before we get into anything else, let's pay some bills real quick. So I got a question going back to Jenny. You said the woman called. You can tell us what she said. What that woman said? You girls see how this show trying to look because we could still pull up and fire here. Now I know you already, but did you a last weapons? So all of this stuff was a minute. I he mad,

don't worry about it. He made two says you came all the way Like, yeah, wouldn't be I said that she wished I was, and he wished I was his baby Bama. Right. Basically, did he try to join your group, Petty mayonnais? I would just say, oh no, let me do a charge your super premium. Tell you more. I'm telling you, well, let me say that. Basically, she called and was like and he was a crazy thing. The number was one of those numbers where you like, it's

the same digits as like the other person. So it's like the family plan where like digits are off with the same numbers are on like the first for you. It's not like I'm like like hey, hey, like it is went from there, just like I've known about you all these things. I mean it was I mean, honestly it was crazy be so my daughters seven. So we were together almost six years and in his true land of fashion, just you know, double life in it and being messy. Okay. So wait, so the woman knew about you,

but you didn't know about her. So essentially she was a side bitch. She stode because she came into the girls. Yeah wait, it's the movie. It's you funny it out even getting the club. You know, I'm Patty, I'm already look were Donna have to bleep her name out there name. I don't even know her. I don't even girl, I don't even know her, not even like her. Look, we don't want no legal issues over here, no slander, no libel lawsuits listened, I will bleep that didn't friend, thanks

for me to real quick? Are you are you all exclusive to black men? Are we on date outside of your race? Oh? Janie's on. Janine is in a relationship, she's getting married, indeed. But I had this moment when

I was in college. I went to the Paul University, which is like a predominantly white college, and white boy he was he was outside the club and when his friends ran up to him, and he was like because he was looking at me, and I felt like, oh, maybe I'll say something differen was like, hey, bro, there's born for that. And I was like, oh not. And after that, I you any white man that everyone has like me look at me? I was like, oh, well to them, it's your fish. Yeah that's crazy, Like, yeah,

that's you know what, bitch. I probably would I probably would a hockey spin on his ass. That's what I got. I'm sorry. I could be really disrespectful. I would have did something. I was like, what, Yeah, it was like it was so shocking actually, and I was younger. I wasn't like mode, but like, I cannot believe somebody had said that it was like that. To me, it was so disrespectful. M hmm. What about what about you India and Davon? Are you always sposive to black men? Yeah,

I don't do others. I don't know what. To me, it's like, oh, let's do cute Like it's kind of like seeing kids just like you know, attracted, you know what I mean? Like like that, But we as brock women really exclusive to black men, but they aren't exclusive to and that's why we end up sharing so much more than we would like to. I think I love my brothers, I support I support my black man, So I would date, you know, I've never actually dated that. I did go back when I was young. I did

day That's how my race. I dated as someone who's cubing. So that's probably the only time I dated outside that's still like a right, still a minority. Yeah, but I never like, don't you feel like white men always state

women that looks like really more like ethic or African? Yes, I don't think they're really attracted like like brown girls, I don't I haven't seen so why guy never really tried to I say that back when I was in Boston, I had like a couple of white guys trying to talk to me, but real dark skinned girls with big titties and naphew, that's what they like. I haven't seen some nap we've like this one girl had like a mop on her head, like like, let me tell you.

I have a whole theory about that. And why when you see white man with a more ethnic looking woman, because you know, the whole thing out here, the whole conspiracy is that white people numbers are declining. Right when you especially like in your places like that, you see a lot of black women with white men. That's they're trying to survive. At this point, I really feel that way. I really feel like it's like a vival of the fittest at this point, because over here you you'll see

more black men with white women, right. The genes are stronger that way. But I really feel like, like these white men, they're trying to survive, so why not get with a white woman? I mean, a black woman that can produce a black woman is not going to create a white child. I don't understand what you mean by that. Yeah, but then the man in the home is gonna have like the biggest influence on the house. Right. So science says it only takes three generations to change the race.

So now if you have the black man to the white white man to the black woman, three more generations, you should get another white person. Oh god, I've never heard, never heard that. I read it black black black. That's not true, which is not true. Look at look at Mega Marco, Look at Mega Marco. Her baby is white. Her baby is white. Right now, that's why that black women's children will then be part white, and then you

so on and so forth. So now if your father is white, usually so you have in America, you have black men that are with white women, right, so they are there're nine times out of tend are more inclined to then be with black men. If you are a black woman with a white man and pro creating, because the man is still going to be the head at the home for the most part, your children will probably be more inclined to be with white men. Do you see what I'm saying. So you have by wracial children,

then going with white men. Are they gonna go back to a black man? We don't know because they weren't even raised by one. That's what that black point was like. Typically, if you know a bi racial male who has a white mother, he could women and as much as he like black women bodies, like you, you let your seed going too. I don't want to call it a seed, you let your air because we're talking about somebody who's

worth millions and millions of dollars. You're now transferring for in that world to this Caucasian woman or whatever her you know, whatever it is that she is. So um yeah, like you, you like black women bodies, so you get you a white woman who has the features, and that's who you procreate with. Like that's a white man. Drake is a white man, right, Daddy is always black, he is not white man. Alright. Question, So do you feel a ladies are India and Davon are y'all single? Y'all single?

Do you feel like it's harder dating now that you have you know, greater wealth? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I mean it is. It's kind of Yeah, where where are you located? Both of you? So? I know it's harder because especially when you just want black men, because the numbers are slim out there. Baby, The numbers of men out there that are actually interested in women and then actually as interested in black women is very small out there. No, you have the cipher through. Yeah, guys that have gone

to jail. There's guys that are bi sexual. There's guys that are just um, you know, straight gay, um, guys that have a lot of kids. Like, there's a lot that you have to kind of um doubts through and Atlanta. To me, I'm originally from Chicago. This is a very big difference and I got here, but I think men here are for precied with who you are. What do you do when he brings this table? If you say, if I hear that one more time? Yes, because why can't women just need women? Why we got to bring

the table? Why do we have to about that table? I'm like my lady Star hotel, hotel, how about right up? Say you're like what you's got going on? The friend it's hard, You're you're lovel and eating, like you need a very submissive man that can just go and I can't. I can't date it like a nanny that like I'm with you and do what you need to do or you're gonna have to get like a fault. Would y'all not date men that make less than you know? No,

not me? It can make your net worth, right, Yeah, when she said you can have a high network, you can make less only if you got a high net worth. That's what you're saying. Well, I mean because it's kind of hard because it could be intimidating, right, you know, it could be intimidating, you know, because technically the man is supposed to quote unquote make more, right, and it could be we can say this, but will a man

really truly feel secure that his woman is men? I hear him saying, and then when it happens, it's completely good. It's it's different. They can't handle it, you know, especially if they want a hard work a woman. But if the woman gets the spotlight and if she's doing this and she's doing that and she's making more, it's it's it's it's you know, why do you want a hard working woman? Because that's all they saw their mom doing. Right, So you say you want somebody there? What you bring

it to the table? Like ship? What's want? Like you said, you know what I mean, like, you want somebody that's bringing a lot to the table. So then you get a woman who brings a lot to the table, but then you want her to be some That's the whole other conversation, right, So maybe you have somebody who does bring a lot to the table. Book in you know, I have meals from what is that fresh to go fresh? Whatever? I have, I have a nanny and the maid and

the maid companies. Like there's some difference things you really are like the superwoman uh syndrome, in my opinion is very real. I think we've all done it. We've all tried to kill ourselves our business and we know that that's not a healthy space to operate with. The self care and being able to look at that back is important,

especially when you have a platform. You know, people said, oh yeah, guess what, that's thirty two thousand women that are responsible a certain things that you're a certain thing that you're working with. It's a non stop factor. So self care really comes this that we have have a partner that understands building and doing and hopefully you're supported absolutely. So Indea, what were you about to say? Because when asked that, yeah, you you had you look like you

had a difference in opinions. Maybe so. At first I was saying, the reason why they are so big on this table in Atlanta, and I think it's because there are so many successful black women, so they almost can have a choice. They know that they're slim, and there's a whole lot of us. So I called the playground. Atlanta is a playground because they have so many choices, right, And they come from like Jane's from Chicago and from Ohio.

Those smaller areas are you know, like hoods. They kind of get with the people that they're with early and stay with them for a while. And you don't like elevate, right, like go to college and get your masters, you don't get to experience as much, right. So here you have a lot of educated women, a lot of black entrepreneurs, one of the highest This is probably the highest concentration of you know, women entrepreneurs. So they got a whole

lot to choose from, so they can play more games. Um. But aside from that, you were saying what I did somebody that makes less to me. My thing is I know how to create income, right, and I know how to purchase assets that are going to create more income for us as a couple. And so sometimes they just don't have the knowledge, like so it kind of depends on their drive, Like they're found their shoe, right, do they have any type of correlations? If you don't have anything,

you can have no educational background. Most of the time, you don't have to discipline to do what I'm gonna teach you how to do it or to maintain to teach you how to get so you can't be like making a whole hundred thousand now less than me, but you know, maybe ten, ten twenty grand less and then we're gonna love that. You know what. The thing is that I never really had a project before my man like that, Like they don't make some money, they're gonna

have a business, but they're gonna sell drugs. But they they're gonna be a real bullshit because you know, most men who get money, they're gonna have women. They're just like it's like now, it's like, ah, what's the damn trade off? Like you santity, you get your bitches or like that part it's having a woman outside of you. Let's that you're with the man who's making you very happy to nan you are Um, if he has a woman outside of you and you find out about it,

is that a deal breaker for you? I'm out and I have not about that man. And even when I found out the first time, that was the final day, broke it off ended, got like engagement, called off the wedding. All that was done within two hours. I had nothing to think about. It's not a deal breaking from you. A little would be so pussy on the side. It's not the deal breaking from me. You should have gotten enough. I can't been. I ain't family oriented it, but I

just don't have. I feel like sometimes you said, our realistic standard form one another when it comes to our real human nature. You know, I know, I used to go that way until I've seen man. You know, I've seen you know, relationships and and and and mayorages have been together for years and years and years, and the men didn't. Of course they look, but they didn't. They didn't cheat, they didn't step out, So I didn't. Growing up, all my friend's parents were married. I never saw the

board parents thirty four marriage for thirty five years steel sweethearts. UM, I really firmly believe in the power of marriage and the power of like the right person. I think it just takes the right person. And you get that, you might feel a little biggle girl like who I might when you get that one nigga, that just does it for you, girl, That's a different a different feeling to be person love done like it, sir, thank you right now, head toodnight. Really fine, but changes your mind. You just

got me the right one. He's out there for you. Dam to know that the right one or the right too. And the three let me tell you stressful man, I'm telling you one nigg is stress enough. Have like five women because I would be thinking of me because they love headaches. They love headaches like they like I was. You know, I was just talking to one of my ex is recently and I'm like, you know, you should just take a break because he's not a bad man, but he runs through women and I'm just happy I'm

not one of those women no more. But you should really take a break because how do you, I said, are you playing on um? You know, getting some real money? Because I mean he owns a home, he has a job, you know, but you cannot build no type of wealth exerting your energy on bitches all day long, like how you're not focus focused like we're getting and you know what,

I'm gonna think about it. You're right, I'm gonna think about it at the letting all these you you putting your demon energy out there and receiving all this demon in energy, like you're gonna always be confused. Like, just take a break from fucking bitching. Sometimes you're about to be forty years old, so I can smashing everybody get his hand on. It's ridiculous. I'm going I like that. Are all of you mothers? Yeah? How do you feel

like juggling motherhood in business? Our artn't ever feel like you you're failing on one in the Yeah, So Davon and India, you guys are not in relationships, right, How do y'all feel about proposing to men? I'm half What do y'all feel about the phenomenal India proposing? Huh? Halfway in one? But you will never getch me getting on my knee. That's I'm proposed now. I'm not doing grab who don't have to worry about it because it's not

gonna happen, right because yeah, I'm not doing that. I'm already kind of like dominant now I could be you know, you know tis if well, if you're not get married, but I'm it just it just won't work. I feel like it's there's definitely a balance and there's definitely roles. I believe in that. And that's like the man they really like playing really big two big things that first day in that proposal, and that's something that they should have that they should playing and be in controlled because

the now just messed up the dynamics. And yeah, and it's just it's it's almost the same thing as a man taking on a date. Like you on your cell phone looking through all the all the different niggas like let me see sending mass text messages out to people who won't take me on a date. You want to go out to eat, Like, it's the same thing that's getting on your knees and asking a man to marry you. Like if that man wanted to take you on a date, and he would have planned it and he would have

hit you up. If that man wanted to marry you, he would have planned it and he would have got on his knees to marry you. That's why I'm act vampion And wasn't her name? Chris Jones. Sam Bam okay, Sam damn. I mean there's a reason for it, right, like I need Look, y'all should have told me to bring my tea cup, my mug because this is just a whole little conversation right here. It's not all rated for me. Okay, clutching my furls right now. Okays, any liked von Boo, I got you. I'm drinking it tea

for us, but I got I got you. Bum dates my fad. Is it okay to wear a bomb in the airport? No? No, no no, I grab my hair, So like if you go take that decent here, huf you out of this conversation. Okay, exactly high school he was coming the rocks. Yeah that a dubie or something. Goes like next three years of that duby. Yeah, but that's like, yeah, that's over. Okay, I'll know about a hair wrap. This girl in the store and the airport, going shopping to the mall. I'm like, why it's not okay,

I don't like it. And that's that's been wearing your bed clothes outside and I've seen that dude, they when they put yours, I mean it's sad, you know in sands and you're not on the binding baby slipper and the first that's because we live in Lena's Strippers. They got off and work took the money right you in there. It's like you don't know what people got going to, like somebody could just pass the win they're hopping on

the flight. You know, I don't. I just I just don't care that much about other people, like with the body like I don't. None of my friends would ever wear a bonnet to the airport. Those are different people. Okay, we we need a different alien over here, like they need something else. But I don't really care about what they do. That would your grand mother would turned over in her grave like I was raised it. You couldn't even go to the kitchen table unless she brush your

teeth and wash your face. So band it couldn't even come to the kitchen table. So you think I'm going outside with a buy it eat outside, like like chips and stuff outside. You have to just eat in the kitchen. And that was it, absolutely outside. But I feel like these are P P P travelers. I don't want to say you did. I don't want to say it, but she did. If you only people leave the people alone in Nay chip Okay travelers, they're going over there the

Dominican Republic to get the ask done. Hold on, before we get into anything else, let's pay some bills real quick. So we have a segment on our show called dumping Story, right, and it's where women and we have also shared a time where we got played. Oh man. So he says, look at my best friend. My best friend, she was like, wait a minute, let me call in. I got a story for y'all. Let her do it, like several stories,

y'all get here, right on here. If I left Indian Indians the cool and common collected one out of us, I'm just laughing. I'm trying to think. I'm sure I got a couple of you know, I have relationship with my exces great one of them was my mentory. He has like ft two properties. Okay, let's talk about that just right quick before we get because I do have a sam series from a man. So sim series is going to be like your equivalent to a dumb bit story,

but just right quickly. So you're in a situation ship, you're getting into a relationship, right, how does your significant can other feel about you having uh contact with men that you've been with before. He talked, ship and that's about it. He can't really stop it, so you know, like we kind of like out of females. I'm a GYMANI too, So I mean, I love you girl. You talk to him, but you can't shut down, you know, Like I said, my texes are like business partners for me.

You know, I always have good relationships with my exes, So I don't you know, it's not something he can really stop. He hasked talking about it. But then one of them, another one of my exes own so hundreds and owns the dealership and he had me have him looking for him a BMW last week. So hey, their resources for both of us at this point, because that's that's always my thing is like I don't want to

get rid of good people, you know. You know what I'm saying, Like that's a that's an on guard argument in my relationship, Like I don't want to get rid of good people, and I'm asking you to either, like you know some people that are good for you, good, resourceful people, good and also just even meeting new people new friends can oftentimes give you played his old friends can. So we just limit ourselves to each other for fifty years, Like how to funk? Are we supposed to grow our network?

Our network? Everything? You can't follo? Let me find this uh this simp story right quick. So this guy's name is I was born fly eighties six on Instagram. All right, So he says I was dating this girl in two thousand and seven. After a few months of talking, she asked me could I help her pay for school and pick up a few bills in the house because she was going to cut her hours from one job to focus on school. So I did pay three thousand dollars

for one semester of school. Took the money out of my four oh one K and I was paying And I was paying her rent, car note and car insurance for six months, also six d a month rent. I even pick up a second job to support her in her dreams. After a few months, something wasn't adding up. To make a long story short, the money I gave her for school, she used it to help her boyfriend get a lawyer to fight a drug case. She was

also selling drugs on the side for him. Once he got out of jail, they started back dating, but she called me and said he had been beating her every day since. That sounds like some series and a dumbing story. When you were telling the story back when you say he took out his four O one K, I knew where it was going. I don't gonna go to the jail,

but I knew it was gonna be. She messed up, and so poor poor boy, Now he ain't gonna trust exactly because that could have been somebody who was willing to go in his four on one K to help y'all get a property, you know what I'm saying. So now he's not even trust trust the word trust worthy of women anymore because of one bit as do our own work, right, we gotta tell who are these people that's a problem. Just give it up, do all this stuff, like we gotta check it was good it was our

he went. It's like even with him, he should have determined to know what you got going on, you know, like she could have been a con artist. But one day, let me say, let me say something because this is not Let's feel bad for you, Terrence, but I feel bad. You don't just give money away, right, My brand is called labels. You create in constraints with the money. I would have said, I'll give you the money to start an Airbnb, and that'll create an extra cash for your

bills or whatever. Now you know you gave the money one time and the money just got blown. This is why even when my my parents go, family members come asking for money. Once you give that even waite at one time, they're gonna come back after some exactly teach them what to do with the cash. Is that the cash creates ongoing in whether it's don't over to the airbnb, a four row started, e book, e plumos, busy whatever.

This is why you don't just help people by giving out money or just spending the money because we suspect expect you didn't got to spend Sarence, stop spending money over girls. But Terence, we appreciate your good heart. You know. Okay, let me plug yourself again. Tell Jerry that's the graund Tellers where everybody can find you. Um at Davon res d A v O n n e r e a v E s are you can find me on Instagram LinkedIn.

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Instagram and Linda Looks dot com where you can find us. Oh, we just created our new tour page which is Black Girls in Real Estate the Tour, So follow us again. You're doing it lift for Houston, Miami. Cool. I got it. That's the little Hey, thank you, thank you. You know what, bitch. I love black women me too. I love us. We're so dope and anything that we really put our minds to. Oh my god, we're gonna conquer it all. Seriously, Yes,

I love it. It was and you know, I got a lot of um I know, you know, I actually had a real estate license in South Carolina, but I never sold any real estate. I just had my ship on um what do they have it not not suspended? But um I worked for a broker for maybe a week so that I can I guess it's called I can't remember exactly what they call it, but it's like

you make it inactive. Right. But I was in college getting a real estate license, and I really like, I've always known about real estate, like this is how you get the bag, but you need money. I was broke, so I realized that while going through the real estate classes, like I need some fucking money so I might get back into it. Yeah, definitely go to bear thing in January. I'm gonna go. Should. I might hit the one up in Atlanta. I think that that maybe even a little

bit sooner. Oh yeah, yeah, should. I'm trying to go to cancuon so I can't learn in and get my grow back. Oh right, maybe we could do can't goon m h and they said he's gonna have some in there too. Hey. But if you guys enjoyed this episode, please tune in every Thursday on the I Heart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts at. And don't

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