Ep. 1 "Cheaters Never Win, Winners Never Cheat"

I dibbling dab and a little bit of this and a little bit of that. Scammer it up, whatever, bitch. I am into white collar crimes. I do like mortgage. Listen, she's just playing law enforcement. If you're listening, just keep talking. But actually I do own and operate a commercial furniture installation company. And I do have a food truck coming in spring to Charlotte, North Carolina, trapped Veggie, so look

out for that. And I'm a struggle meal connoisseur. And I'm just happy to be here as I am excited to be doing this podcast. One of my very very good friends. I wouldn't want to be doing this ship with anybody else. So I just want to tell you a little bit about myself. Girl. Buy, I do not like oysters, I mean on humans. Oh I'm like what you're trying to say about my vagina, bitch. I don't like nothing slimy. Okay, that's how I know I can never be a lesbian. But why you shocking the moisters

at your house? I can't believe that. But I stopped eating when I saw a warm and one those same ones we were get word. Okay, everybody, it's me tam Bam, and I'm that bitch that you don't want to miss every Thursday. Okay. I'm a hair stylust by day and I'm a fucking superhero at night. I wear a smock in a cape. Bitch. I'm originally from the Metro, which is Columbia, South Carolina. Stand up South Carolina. I love y'all so much. I live in Charlotte, North Carolina now

where I have my hair salon. It's Tamla Bow and Vanity Studio. So check it out, y'all. You gotta pay for the hair, but the entertainment is free. And honestly, I'm just so grateful because not everybody has the opportunity or the confidence to just be their authentic, true self because the world around you will stifle you and make you afraid to be yourself. But let me tell you who ain't Tam bam and a j and So we're gonna say this ship. You're probably thinking they can't say so.

The main complaint black men have with black women is that we just don't shut the funk up. So while we're doing why are you doing your dirt? We're just talking all ship, while some ethnicities probably be a little bit more like not submissive, but what's the word I'm looking for, white bit? What like, uh, what's the word passive? Okay,

so we don't shut up, Thus we talked back. Overall, the premise for this show is to create a safe space where black women and women of color can come together and talk shit and be empowered and feel loved and have joy. That's all this is. So we have a a lot of great uh segments for the show. Um one of them we want to introduce right now is our random sex facts. So apparently humans are just a sophisticated animal, and the only thing that separates us from animals,

essentially our laws and religion. So I'm a little slew footed. So apparently I'm related to penguins because the Random Sex Fact today it says that female penguins engage in a form of prostitution. Not to say I'm a prostitute, but you got to have my like a resources cirin so says. Researchers have repeatedly observed female penguins exchanging sexual favors with male pigeons I'm sorry, penguins that aren't their mates, and exchange for pebbles they will use to build nests for

their babies. So essentially the pebbles are equivalent or would be the same as money. Penguins need stones to build their nests, which is where females lay eggs, and if a penguin couple finds themselves lacking in stones, the female takes it upon herself to provide for her children, which we would do because they said, mama's come with a little for bread. Okay, so when her mate isn't paying attention, she'll sneak off and have sex or males that have

a surplus of stones. That's right. Penguins will trade sex for stones they need to build a nest, like I got a pocket full of styles. Yes, yeah, so ship basically with that. You gotta take care of your kids, you know. You know when men pay ch'll support, they always concerned about what money the woman is using to pay for what. You can't differentiate what money is what money? And if I need to get money from Joe smoke and I need that yo'all support check to support these

kids whose fucking businesses that I don't understand. I agree, and I'm here for the penguins. Do what you need to do. Since hold on, oh that's the ductor, I don't know what what sounds a penguin, mate, I don't know. Obviously they'd be moaning all day because they're going with the penguins who got the most sounds? And hold on, before we get into anything else, let's pay some bills real quick. So today we gotta real good episode lined up. Yes,

it's so much fun. You're going to hear from some gentlemen today that are sharing with us why they cheat or have cheated. So maybe the one that's cheating on you is one of these. You know, because my philosophy is women need a reason. Men literally only needed time and a place and the opportunity. Yes, so here's the kicker. We put that witness protection ship over their voice and it got them to be a little bit more honest than someone that you could pinpoint who the funk they are.

So our first guest is your certified hood nigga quintessential hood nigga for sure listening. Thank you so much for joining us today. How are you app good? Just getting up that breath smell like, No, I don't brush my teeth for whatever that make sure. I gotta make sure I keep my diamonds. Wi wait, you have diamonds in your mouth? Yeah, I gotta father's diamonds, tennant tin you know. Okay, well that's like top and bottom diamonds. Yeah, you know.

You could see you on your on your local. You know, I ain't gonna put all that out. I ain'tna say you know, I'm not there with it, Okay, Okay, I see you, Mr marcel Is Brown, so ye okay, So tell us a little bit about yourself for Charlotte, North Carolina, um born and raised, you know, the East Side. Currently at this time, I do a little bit of everything. When they come out to the freelancing entrepreneurs beat this man manager of the music industry. Got a couple of

artists out there who I work with. I ain't gonna put the names out there because they're gonna figure it out too easy. But yeah, I'm hot to man. I could definitely sham somebody. Okay, after it's called, maybe we could talk about some other things. Ship ship, Mr Brown. All right, So the conversation at hand is, you know why you keep stepping out in a relationship, like why you can't keep your dick to yourself? So are you currently in a relationship? Um? I like, I like, I

like to think, so you like to think? So? Yeah, I mean I think, I think, I think she thinks that. You know, we could say that you wait. Wait, wait, so if the woman thinks that y'all in relationship, y'all in the relationship, it's like this, man, I gotta I gotta please my women, you know. So she feels like that's what's gonna take to be happy happy, even if you're not really in a relationship. You don't know. I take I take care, I take care of my women.

So you know I'm in a relationship. But in the situationship. Wait, so you have one main relationship and then you have little outside with, so I think I think that's the way it is right now to do the outside women know about your main Oh yeah, for sure they got to know. But how much do they know? Do you pillow talk with these women? No, they just need to know not to call me unless I can do you know what I'm saying. And the biggest thing, yeah, yeah,

because I take it them as well. Pretty sure they got their own things going on on trip on the too much I keep it playing. Wait a bit, so hold on, let me ask you this, Mr. Brown, How old are you? Kind of okay? Women? How old that? Yes? How did these women are? They range? You know my old lady? You know that's where I like to call my main girl old lady. Reason why I called my old ladies. I spent the most time she stayed down

with what's my old lady? But she liked one. Got me up year old keep me she keep you up to date on the fashion and ship. Everybody played the all row. Okay, that's interesting. And you say they know about each other like they saw each other. They would be like my girl, my old lady don't need to the problem none of that ship. Basically, what I got going on with her. It is a school you know, eventually one day that's gonna be mother and my kids.

And she she knows what's going on, but we don't talk about it, you know what I'm saying, Like it ain't nothing to be discussed. Okay, she gives you zero fuss about your outside activities. She do, but it's like she she should have talked. But at the same time, I know how to handle her, you know what I'm saying, or know how to get her back together. Sometimes she gets she get a little straight. You got to bring it back to the stable man. How do you do that?

Dick and some money? I mean, she had to dicker with got but you know they came up since then, so she seen what kind of lifestyles you're living right now. And ship, I ain't saying another nigga can't give it to her, but they can't give it to the round. So you have unprotected sex with twenty four year old as she she sucks, she's something like digging ship with you know, I ain't I don't think. I think the

nigga game if you were economically picks up. I don't know, but I mean, just think about it, like you have a you have a blue bubble like she sunk around and choke herself trying on my companion. That's on my conscience. Al Right, Okay, I respect that. Do you ever feel any guilt about, you know, going outside of the relationship with your main girl? No, not, no guilt. So I can't because I mean, if if I feel guilt, and I mean I feel like I shouldn't be doing it,

I don't feel like that. I mean I feel like my girl she there for what she there for, and we just to maintain hold hot hope. But a lot of times you don't get what you get in your old lady that you're gonna get out here in the streets, you know what I'm saying. And she's a lot of things, you know, I mean, every man got his own you know what he's talking what he don't like he personally My old lady that she she went to school, you know what I'm saying. She had traveling nurse and she

getting she getting on her day. She's trying to got you and go back to school, get her masters, and better herself. But at the same time, she's born conservative, so you get you have the fun girl, it's twenty four year old girl. You know, I ain't even gonna say, my girl, I fun, we have fun, we laughed, you know what I'm saying. We're gonna little pick nicks and days and ship that ship cool. But you know, my twenty four year old she might she might pop up on me and tell me about the new James is

coming out and my dad. I don't know ship about none of that ship. She really trying to get me stop doing time. Too old to be worried about ship like that. And I feel like I'm only as olders I feel, and I feel like that's the type of ship that I liked. But at the same time, I wouldn't want to let her go because that little stuff. But she don't just have all the qualities. I won't. No one, do you ever like talk with the sad bitch about your relationship only disrespectful. I don't do that

as disrespects. Don't even know she don't know her name right, her Instagram, my grandst She don't do none of that, No Instagram, social media's she focused on guard She's not like, she don't do no social media. But what about Facebook? But on people she follows her opens you know what I'm saying. She ain't. What's the reward for being a

reclusive like that? She don't want for nothing, she don't need for Do you think she would trade the things and stuff like that for her man to be a hundred percent faithful They committed to her alone should be stupid as him. It's like it's like this, It's like this, you would funny, got time you followed, nigga, I've got some way, yeah, because I don't got time to funk with some to else. You got time in money, my girds.

She had traveled, nurse, she had the town right now, I at my shot right, just want to go do her little part of time at the mall watching ship. So let me ask you this, um, if you were to get the twenty four year old pregnant by accident, what would that look like for you? Yeah? I said, y'all, I disguised my ways right, yes, yes, you totally protected. She got she gotta go? Wait what where she gotta go? She gotta go like die go? Or are you just

getting rid of her? Right? I don't know to be a fast Wait a minute, I respectfully respect that that's your name, right, yes, yes, yeah, something they gotta be said, she gotta go. Not even give her an opportunity to say, hey, I'll get rid of rid of it, and she already know that. But if she even come talking about anything else, because this ship, I don't come before what I got going on the home, you know, this ship fund him. I'm gonna take care of and make sure you know

everything taken care of. She good therapy, right. I really think I could be that. Really I could be a thing. Oh God, do you see yourself? Um? Every committee? Yeah? Like how long? How long will this go on? Is this just like a lifetime thing for you? Did you like, could you be in like a polyamorous relationship where it's kind of like fully open with both parties that way, there's no deceit involved stuff on me? Are you dealing with a complex type? Now? At myself? Some things that

my mindkey him, do you keep processed? I don't need to be confused, that need to focus. You almost sound like you speak like a pimp. Almost. You don't have to focus on nothing, baby, follow me and bring me the money back. It's not it's not more, I would say more a god is counsel. I want to get to a common goal, so we both to be successful. Guy, all right, thank you so much, Mr Brown, you have a good day. Did he just boat kiss? That was

a very interesting yeah right now, kind of crazy stuff. Look, these are random people social media. It's not happening. I'm not getting involved in no ship like that. Like he wanted low polyamorous relationship. That's what he needs. He just needs. Like I just feel like, if you're someone who wants a bunch of women, why don't you just be honest and y'all find women that are down with it? Like, why don't we gotta these things? Because, like I believe the deceit is a part of the whole ship, you

know what I'm saying. Yes, I think it makes it fun for them. Sneaky Link is like on all time high right now. Sneaky Link. Oh yeah, it's like if Sneaky Link was a stock right now. But sneaky Link, I'm not. I'm not sneaking to do ship all right. One I decided that I'm going to practice safe sex, right and I'm not talking about a condom, because I mean I am going to do that too. But safe is an acronym and it stands for the ass for it's not secret. No, the seed is involved, nobody's sneaking around.

The A is for um, a's for abusive, it's not abusive sex uh f is it doesn't alter feelings, So like you're fucking to make me feel better over something I'm sad about or something like that. And then the E it's for it's not empty. So how do you have just sex and then not be empty? I don't just have sex. That's the thing. I'm not going to protect cartake insects that doesn't have a meaningful Sex needs to be a reinforcement of feelings that exists with someone.

That's it. So sorry, guys, No frivulous fucking this year. No vacation pussy, none of that. No birthday pussy, No, no vacation baby pussy. You know. So, I'm just gonna get a very high pedigree dog and that brings to our next person. So you'll understand what that means very soon. Our next person is our corporate man. Man, I'm struggling. That's a shame that I'm struggling. You want to say corporate niggas so bad? I just I mean, alright, corporate man, yeah,

I did. But before we get to our next guest. We have a steel words from our sponsors. This is gonna be your your more high value grown man, all right, and we're gonna hear how he feels about high values, more high value, high value, high value to me. Makes it to me based on the conversation, he's more responsible than a last If I was like this nigga would have me right right, But so alright, I want y'all then listen to our corporate man and see and see

what you think in comparison to our street nigga. I can say street nigga, but I can't say corporate nigga like high value. All right, So y'all listening. Hi, this is a J and TAM band from we talked back. How are you doing? Good? Good? Thank you for participating today in our conversation about keeping your dick to yourself. I want to look at so you don't keep all right, we'll get into that. Just tell us just a little bit about yourself, Nathan, Who are you like? Who are you?

What do you do? I'm a four year old guy, um black, well to do a guy in the middle of La Georgia. Okay, And when you say well to do, like what do you What kind of work do you do? Are you corporate or you you know, like, um, well I've been I've been an entrepreneur, meaning I sell for companies for most of my career, which allows me to create a lot of other revenue strings, which that's kind of what I do. So I'm but but I do pretty well for myself. Okay, cool, cool. So let me

ask you this. Are you currently cheating on someone right now? Are you currently in a relationship? No? No, So I am single now and when I am single, I am a whole type of hope and I'm okay with that. But when I'm in a relationship, in general, I don't cheat. I towards the end of my marriage, she became, uh, the edges became a little boggy. But but in general, when I'm in a relationship, don't cheat because I just don't.

My ego won't allow me to get caught cheating. And so it's rare that I'm going to to allow myself to get caught up in something that I would have to admit to or something like that. That's a different way, right, Yeah, I like that. I meantime, people will cheat because of right, you inazing. You don't cheat because of your ego because you don't like to be wrong exactly exactly me. Imagine that what you gotta what you gonna do? Someone dead as catches you doing something, What are you gonna do?

Just sit around? You look like an idiot. Now you're gonna want to flip it on them and make them? Yeah, use it right? Yeah, I think that's I think that's a large waste of everybody. I'm not saying that I haven't done it before, and I'm not saying that when I did it, I felt bad about it, um because I felt I was justified in someone by behavior. But um, but in general, I'm not a cheating in general. Okay,

So let me ask you this. You said something earlier, you say you're a whole code versus a half a home. What does that the whole whole look like? When I'm single, I don't have any allegiance to anybody that I don't have relationship with, and I don't interpt the relationship without some without without a strict conversation, and that that understanding. So I'm okay with you know what, um, and I do whatever I want to, And you're using condoms a lot when you're single, right or no? Do you have

anybody that you don't use economic to the accidental? I'll tell you that. Um. But I certainly we've had drug nights where d you know what the fund did I do? But I but you know, I wouldn't make sure that from a pregnancy standpoint, I've I've handled my side of that equation. So I don't know, no, no, no, pull up that that's so many half plus are born on pullout right, So I wouldn't got to desect me because I don't want any more kids more than more than three,

let's six. Yeah, yes, I'm so. I'm good on kids and I don't wish to be a fifty year old running behind a ten year old somewhere, and so I I'm good and so because of that, I kind of take my my choices of of my you know how he gets my last name very seriously and I'm and I'm good on that right now. So do you want I heard you say you were married once before? Do you want to be married again? Yeah? I would. I would marry a kid. I think that marriage is a

good thing. Um. Now understand that getting married at Gordy um is a different calculation than getting married when I did earlier in my in my early twenties, because we were married before, you're married for a life. We're building a kid to kids, were building children together, a family and tribe together, and now largely we're gonna you know, listen, just let's go on vacation and buck all the time. And it's just a different calculus than that I did

what I was twenty in my early twenties. Right, So basically you're saying you want someone to fucking travel with as a wife, and that's about you know. But so yeah, I'll have fun with a lot of these, um, you know, young women, but in general, the women that I date

are going to be more age appropriate. They're going to be um, you know, mature enough to handle my life, meaning that you know, I have the complex life, a lot of different people that make me money, and so she needs to be able to be with me while we're doing that. Um and you know, and that's kind of you know, that's that's what that's what that's what I have demand now. But you know that's that's not I'm not I'm not not sugar daddy, So I'm not

We like sugar Daddy's over here. I'm sure you think you do, but but that's that's just not what we're doing over here. You know, are you exclusive to black women? Um? During the daylight? You know? No, absolutely, Um, I mean absolutely, very much. Publicly, I only date black women. Um. I I try to be very loyal to black women. I really believe that that's the right. It's very hard sometimes because I've been very disappointed with a lot of the

interactions that I have with with black women. Outside of that, I'm not I'm not a get white women. I just in jail, don't like the vaginas, and I don't want to have sex with them, and I you know, they're just you know, they're they're okay. But I just I think that that that I's not gonna gonna be, you know, waking up to when I'm sixty. Um, probably not. So she doesn't quite understand the struggles. She doesn't understand what

we go through. She doesn't quite get it. And so while it could be a lot of fun, it's just I it's a cultural difference, and and you know that's gonna just kind of limit me from from reaching what I want to do. So, UM, when you said, because you said you have cheated, but generally you are exclusive. When you made that decision to cheat, what what was the thought process that allowed you to give yourself permission

to do Um? It was maker's market. No, I was by the time that I started, like honestly cheating, I had already moved out of my home. I was sleeping in a hotel room. Um, because I was already separated from my from my ex wife. I was like on months to be living in a hotel and basically a girl from work wanted to come over and have drinks after work and and just hang out, and we ended up taking too much. And so cheating wasn't the reason

you got divorced. It wasn't because of infidelity. No, No, it was it was There's nobody that I went to when I left my hope I was in your marriage. Did you cheat on your before? No, There's never been a day where I'm going over to my happy wife when she's you know, we're in a relationship and I'm cheating, I just goft another woman. That that never happened. Um. Certainly when I was in a hotel room, Um, that you know, that kind of started a whole different path,

was like, yeah, well I'm done with this relationship. Living in a hotel gave you the opportunity. Basically, yeah, I didn't happen. I was setting there and I'm a jacking off on myself for you know. And and it wasn't

until that, you know, somebody else is a ball. And then after that it became, um, it became more of a regular current because I was like, you know, so, let me ask you this, prior to you moving out of the house, when was the last time you sucked your wife before you went to that hotel, because obviously out yeah, maybe it was some Uh, it's like we don't like each other anymore. It starts for us mentally.

So if I'm unhappy my pussy now I didn't win. Yeah, it's not damn that makes me Now, I'm just imagining, just thinking about being in a marriage and feeling that way. Yeah, how long were we married? Almost two years? Okay, wow, so a long marriage. Well, I mean considerably because you're only forty so that was a good portion of your adult life. So let me ask you this. Do you feel like because I heard you said you left, you said back home, and now you're saying Atlanta, Um, do

you feel like dating in Atlanta is a different ball game? Um? So I think Atlanta becomes a bad contil of ambition, misinformation, and um, toxic feminism. And so we put all those things together, that is dating in Atlanta. Um. And it's a lot of very inbitious people here. Oh you know, and we don't you don't have to be in a relationship.

And frankly, um, most of us are you know, we wouldn't understand it, but we're all kind of polygue here and it's and we and it's really uh, it's really a thing that we kind of kind of step back and look at. So when you say toxic feminism, it's fine what that is for me? Um, So what does

it mean to you? Because to me, like it's like, uh, too many alpha females in Atlanta, too many women that may have their own So it's like, I don't need a man type attitudes or well you want to encapculate it that whole I don't need to I don't need no man type of statement. That is a statement of toxic feminism in my opinion, because you're you're saying, wow, look at my last paycheck. That means I don't need a man anymore because you've simplified the contribution to I'm

going to tell you just cry at night. Okay, they do. And I'm because I have friends. I have a lot of female friends that I fucking we're just female friends, and I know that they have to struggle, right, And I'm like, dude, you've been like to like, you gotta change. You can't just think of men as a resource pool for you. These their whole human beings that you're not. You're interested in only one test of their life, and so it's just the utility of man that wants to

be exported from them. You see a lot of that here in the city, right, you see that, and the women in this in this age, raams where they should be the Becky's of the world, to figure out how do I get married? And a lot of the black women like how do I get rich? Right? And so those are two different objectives. And so I don't know how because all women are attracted to resources like no, no, no, I'm talking about the Becky's are not trying to figure out how they're going to do. I'm not saying that

women should not be do whatever they want to. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that if you're if you're not focused on a partnering at certain points in your life, women will run out of what they will be more complicated for you later. And I'm saying that there's a lot of that happening with with women right now in the city. And you know, I just I'm from out

of town. You've been through four years now, and I can just see it's a different thing because you know, they will they have their their their money and their businesses and stuff like that, but they don't have relationships. And it makes me sad. It makes and it's going to be that can be good for our people, and that is what I'm talking about, and that's what I'm about,

is how do I be better our people? And I don't and I don't think that's good when women have chosen to not see men for partners but just resources that they can use for occasionally. So when I lived in Atlanta, but I lived in Atlanta for some time in my late journies, and it was the loneliest time in my life, like because I realized there are just a couple of different types of men in Atlanta you have the hetero sexual bumass niggers and to come live

at your house. Then you have the hetero sexual guy who has its whole shipped together. But then he has a choice thirty different women. Um, you got to compete with, and then you have the gay men, and then you know all these other little people in between. But so as a woman, you're getting your own money. I think that black men sometimes have a misconception of exactly what black women want. Like some Black women just yeah, I want somebody to take care of me and I want

to keep my money. A lot of people do have the attitude. They'll well they don't say that, right, but they really don't live their lives like that because nine times of the time they could be taking care of a nigga similar. But um, we want we want a partner, that I would want a partner, not just somebody that I'm running through the check you know. So why but then they're to white women, they are raised and they practice hypergamy. But for whatever reason, for Black women, we

don't have that option. I don't know what that basically Okay, okay, someone would say men are naturally polyamorous. Um, some would say women are naturally hyper and meaning that men want to funk around spread their seeds or in life, women because they want to suck as as the highest status male as possible. And so that is whatever they can get their hands on whenever they can they want, that's who they want to be with is the highest drivers man.

And why is that? Because I can create, you know, come twenty times in a day where you used to be able to probably can't do it more. But but women can't make twenty babies in a day, right, you get times you'll be able to make twenty babies in this world. So you have to make choices around where you put your wound. Do you want to align your wound to the highest value mail that can help north child the best chances of success in this world? And

that's all it is. And I'm not mad about hypergnmy and I'm not mad about I think more women, based on what you're like, I know what a hypergnmy is, and more women need to practice hypergumy because if we did, because we set the standards right, more men would be successful exactly and children would be taken care of. We wouldn't be having just just having a baby. Fan anybody. I can't even argue with your descriptions the categories of men.

That's a good roundbout with thinking those couch flovers, you know they go for wood counsel with others because is you know. And that was so good, Nathan eas thank you for joining us, and we'd love to have you back. One more thing on your treating cheat. So he didn't really cheat, I mean he didn't really talk about cheating

maybe in another relationship. But he spoke about how he was married for teen years and sorry, yeah, so I mean that count he was still married, so that means he's just cheating, right, And he basically said because he basically the relationship was over, even though the paperwork wasn't done, the relationship was over and that's how he gave himself permission to cheat. Do you think that holds value? Like?

I guess that makes sense for me. She probably didn't give a funk no more either, and neither party is in it. Yeah, and especially if a man ain't been at home for two months, right, that's not your man. He butted to the streets exactly wherever he had. But out of the two guys we've heard so far, if I had to kill, like funk with one of them. It would be corporate bro. I think all right, listen, I would funk with the corporate nigga and then oh boy would be my side nigga. Shame. I don't want

no parts to that. I'm jumping street nigga man street niggas. I know. But if I was a twenty four year old fund girl, Hell yeah, I'm near and I don't give a ship about your responsibilities at home. I'm running to check up and damn vip like my favorite is a corporate street nigga. Yes, I love hood niggas that made it. They just treat you so nice that you're just so nice. And even if they did, like maybe three years in prison also just three now a little

bit more than that. They kind of need therapy. Ud niggas who come home with the plan and yeah, I like hooding examine it also my favorite time. But they like they like the smoke weed too. They're not too stuffy, but they're not like they still want to get up and go work the next day. It's great for me. So what do you think about are I call him? I'm calling him high value? What do you think about him?

Um in his situation. I don't know why I'm receiving bitter, a little little little hard, just a little maybe a little jaded perhaps, No, I just I was receiving that in the spirit. I didn't get that. I thought he was a responsible man. You know what I'm saying. He's singles and now he's doing what he want to do. And he said he's the super whole. Now as long as you know other people feelings involved. But can you

really be a superhole and nobody's feelings are involved? I guess it depends on how you dealing with them, how how you sucking them. So that kind of leads us to the next conversation. Listen up, hi, this is a J and Tamba And when we talked back, thank you so much for participating in this experiment with dis experiment with these niggers. Right, so we want to ask you just like some questions about you, your relationship with your dick and others. Okay, all right, so first, uh just

tell us a little bit about yourself, ezra Um. Well, I'm an executive at my company and I graduated college, kind of moved around on the dout West and I live on the on the East Coast. Now, so I'm a black gay male, so I've been in rights for females and with and with I'm a guys. I'm a little bit diversed in my dating population. Which do you prefer guys? For sure? Yeah? Yes, it's my personal favorite. Definitely need more. So we're just going to ask you

like a series of questions. The first one, all right, first, I was what was your last When was his last serious relationship? I'm currently in a relationship. I'm not currently in a relationship. I just got out of a relationship yesterday, so congratulations. I don't know middle things to my old life before night, it was like, uh like three years ago, and that's the last person a couple of years ago.

So question, have you ever cheated? Yeah, I've cheated them, been cheated on, so I know I know boths Okay, facts, I've never cheated. I'm innocent. But when when you decided to cheat? How did you give yourself permission to do that? Like? What was the thought that was, like, you know what, I'm about to go do this? Um? For me, I was kind of like the provider in that relationship, you know, I was taking care of all of this I was like, for lotting at the house of staying and I'll pay

for two cars. Like I had a lot of ships that I'm taking care of as a man take care of another man especially gets real real quick. And then when it came downtime to like, you know, I'm coming home from work or I had to work like an hour and a half. But where I live, so I'm coming home from work, you don't have like ship together. You don't have like the house and order, you ain't cooking nothing like what value or got into my life.

So when I'd be at work, you know, and people showing me love and attention and affection and like, you know, I'm at a place at work where people are like spending on me and I feel good. I was like, I want to do that. And I ended up like working with a guy in the city that I was working in just because I like nice stuff too. So you basically yeah, so because because I've been in a situation like that before and it does kind of put you.

And I'm a woman head of sexual and I was in a relationship with a man at the time and he wasn't doing much. I understand that. So if you wear the pants. You think you can just go cheat. I don't think yes said that you can in goo cheat.

I think that if you're not if something's not being satisfied in your life, like now, I've been through like therapy and ship, so I would know to like talk about it and say, like be more vocal and say like, Yo, this isn't working for me because once to three and four vertu like just being upset about it coming home and like flipping out and then when I get the chance to get what I want getting it elsewhere, Like

I could have just talked about it. Because the sex at home was good, as we had really good sects, like every time we did hook up, like that's part of the reason why I stayed. It actually good. But with everything else, I just wasn't getting a full picture. So I just got that from from somebody else who could give it to me. So it was just about the stuff that made you step out. It wasn't say it was material things that was missing from relationship. You

can't say like material ship because I don't know. I'm not the kind of person that needs material things as much. It was more so the level of affection and like hustle, like that was an attractive traite to me, and I wasn't. I was losing that attraction from my partner. So I found it in somebody else who was hustling on the on and you know that that was attractive to me, and I was able to get that versus at home.

I'm coming home and y'all lady asked me to the house all day, like you know, you like, we ain't got no kids, how you have to like to stay at home mom? But you never had so. Through therapy after the situation, you learned how to then communicate your feelings better. So then at that time, you didn't communicate to the person you were with how you felt and how they weren't meeting whatever expectations you had for them. You didn't communicate that. You just went out and slept

with somebody else to complete your happiness. I mean we had some conversation, like I would express my frustrations in general about like the fact that you're not on your ship, and then I would say like, well, you know, I'm kind of can be kind of an asshote sometimes, so I was like, well, you know, like somebody will make sure I'm straight and just laugh it off. Like a little joke. So I kind of like alluding to that, but it wasn't a joke, right, do what I need

most to it? They do, and mine definitely packed a big punch because I definitely you like, yeah, get my dicks up. You ain't right. I feel like that's even trade, like if you ain't done for twelve hours whatever I want to. Did you possess any guilt? Um? Yeah, I felt bad because I had to come home. You know, I think it wasn't like out yeah, da, I felt bad because I had to come home, like in the spence like I just got my di and now I'm

about to come home to you. It's about to kiss me my face, Like that's that's kind of sucked up, Like, well let's do that. You You know you possessed the guilt because some nig is like sleep peacefully after they got come home and you too, right, they ain't even been. Yeah. I did some of that too. I got that, like when you come home and fitching about like how you ain't do nothing all this time? Did you come home that one time you're cheated? You come home and then

and clean the house, put the meal. I got the whole situation together and you're like, and they want to like funk with you right then, you know, because they're working up to it. So it's like, I just you gotta be able to get it back up, so it's not ideal. Yeah, did you did you build a relationship with your outside partner or was it just you know, like it is what it is and I see you later this ain't that and that ain't this, so don't

get too caught up. Or was it like y'all started building an emotional connection perhaps, I mean bro had a whole girlfriend like situation and we both were traveling for work in town. It was like that was my niggawn something else. So wait, so that makes it all right? So maybe this tell me if this term is correct, that would make him a trade. A trade. Yes, so he wasn't openly bisexual to his girl. No, he wasn't

open to nobody at all. We actually met the hotel, like we were at the hotel, like he was traveling, I was traveling, was at the bar and like, so I'm aggressive with my shots. I'll just be like, yo, would not be cool, like we should hang out? And did We just hung out and he started like you know he had a better job to need. In general, he was just a bean, you know, who was taking care of peace and whatever form that was. So that

was attracted to me that you know. So we're up in town, we were working around, and we go back to our houses and it is what it is. That's so fu scary man trying to figure out okay, because this is going into something different. I'm trying to figure out the and I guess this is not a question for you. We have to find somebody who is a trade basically because I want to understand their dot process when with the same sex. That's a different episode. Well

not definitely took you up for the next episode. Please yes, nigger, please the real yes, okay, And they're not who you

think they are. I already know. I already know already because everybody like the things like light skinned, green eyes, the gay guy know the trade is omar from wire or the nigger riding around here with the don't right here and I'm about to brown thin muscles like you know this stuff, like you know, every girl I know was won the interesting What do you think you were a different person in the affair to the outside partner, like were you the same at home with this person

or did you display a different side of yourself to him, Like were you more the submissive with the trade? I mean not really because at the same time like the trade to think about them, and they usually want you to be like the man when they comes like the bedroom stuff, like they really like Yeah, in the city, like around town, they're giving off like I'm a man, I'm a man. But when they get in that bedroom

down like they turned into a whole ldy. So you know, I was still that I was running it either way sextually, but when it came to like when we went out to dinner or something like that, he's running now, you know. So it's like he was the dude out quote unquote to Doude in the in the street, at the hotel room he was. He was the girl. Interesting. Interesting. See,

I'm gonna stay here for everybody. You know, I would kill my nigga if I found out that he was getting you feel bad if he was doing yes really to a woman. Oh either way, I'm mad. It's the nigga and not another woman. But to insult the injury, not only are you working with another nigga, but you're also getting fun. Yeah, it's crazy. We don't talk anymore because the way I got caught cheating is that niggating stp Wait so wait all right, we got unity the trade.

The trade gave me st Did you pass it on to your partner at home? I did, and that's how you got caught. That's how I got caught. And what was the conversation that name? Hey, my dick is burning a little bit, but I didn't say nothing at first. I woke up and I was like, this ain't the thing, right. I went to head and went to the urgent care, you know, I got checked out and they told me I had gone a real I was like, because I knew I had just like both of my main like

my like to do that with me. So I knew I had just had sex with him. I was like, dang, that means he probably got it. I gotta tell him. And O Loki was scheming on like if I was gonna just like get extra pills and just like put him in a smoothie or something. So I didn't want to have that. I was like doing playing bees. Probably right, you want another mimosa, Right, I'm gonna make that. I think I saw the pizza. Now, yeah, stop babysitting there.

Drink drink. That ship read seventy two hours, right, and we got one more hour before I with daddy, right, you know. But then the doctor told me how to get like a shot to what I'm shot. We had that nigga from the back and stabbing in the button, yeah, I said, I just like accused him of cheating. Oh wow, I was on the most Yeah, that was what boy behavior. And then he probably got it from his bitch who

was getting some dick on the side too. Yeah. I actually did tell him, but he like after that, he just ghosted because you're gonna give me leave me along creek. That made me feel like he knew he had something, right, we knew. I really feel like he knew it. But I mean, at the same time, like I did appreciate the great sex for that time, for that like conference, So I mean the probace you pay for being a home no more. I just have one bit of advice.

No more outside dick, look, because that outside did keep them most sick. All right, thank you so much. All Right, the man, we definitely have to have him back on the trade. I care wait to talk about the trade, because that's a whole another ball game, baby girl, I'm scared of he's scared of the trade. That was very interesting. So basically he said that the person he they had bomb sex at home, but this person wasn't doing anything. So this person was bringing me resources to the pot.

So I'm the man in the house, I'm financing your entire life. I deserve to cheat. So with his attitude, right, and the moral is nobody woman or man wants lazy dick, get up yourself. Nobody wants it gay straight, Well, I'm nobody wants. I wonder. I wonder if society would say, oh, his his standards too high? How they do us? Is that? How you do black women? Out stand this too high? Because we want you to meet us halfway. I don't want my man to also enjoy that. I don't. Yeah,

and I'm not. I'm not opposed. Like I have gay friends. I hate to say it, like that people have white people like I have black friends, but I have gay friends. But I have gay friends. They're not straddling the fence, right, see what I'm saying. So if that's what you like, you need to make you need to at some point, man you gotta come out the closet because there are women out here who are okay with that ship, right, Like,

it's not a problem. You can do both, and y'all can all do it together like a little by little sequel type ship. Right, whatever you want, but don't be deceitful, man. So let me tell you. Let's tell you all a little secret that I do when I'm like getting in all man, before we fuck, Like, oh, I'll put on a movie with a gay scene in it, and then we'll just be chilling. And then when the gay scene comes on, when it's good into it, I grab this dick just to see if it's hard, because if it's hard,

baby sending you back to the straights. But that's terrible. Why is that terrible? I don't know, because I feel like it is there a correlation, Like, Okay, so it's a sexual act going on, right, So should the man penuts not get hard at all? But two niggers fucking no? Oh? No, man? So you I heard porn Hub. Porn Hub said there's a lot of gay porn being watched. So guys, honestly, are y'all getting hard on during gay scenes with men? If you are then you need to explore that. But

they may not necessarily like a man. Then maybe they're aroused by that. Explore that. Because I don't like women, but I like orgy sex. I like to watch orgy porn or every body fucking and touching and spitting and sucking I like, but you don't. You might want to explore that. No, I don't. I like a lot of dick, not like at one time, right, I like um woman on woman porn, and I don't usually watch porn with a minute. But you just watched Lesbie important. That's it.

I don't really watch porn though, I'm more of an imagination. I haven't watched porn in a while. I only discovered poor in two thousand seventeen. Really, yeah, I always use my imagination. That's it. So if you're in a relationship and masturbating and then having a thought about somebody else, and I've seen that you somebody relationship. If I'm masturbating,

I think about him. Okay, you're not thinking about somebody else. No, really, I think about like past sexual experiences, and usually with that person. It's with the nigga that I'm dealing with at the time. Okay, So yeah, that's how it goes. I don't know. I watched I watched the porn. Yeah it's cool, you watched the port of Lot. Who's your favorite porn female? Oh? I forgot. You don't like girls. I don't even know, Like who's the popping porn guys? Now, Like,

I don't know, you're not into it, like not. I used to like Mr Marcus. Yeah that's the old school, yes, but then one day he was like fucking a bit in the kitchen on the scene and he had like this dent in his bowls, and it turned me off from that point, and I did not like Mr Marcus. He had like a little dent in his balls. I'm like, he does not does not like balls. But it's like almost the equivalent to like, like I went, men like to talk to about women who have like longer ladies

or whatever. That's the equivalent, like your dick is ran through? Why your balls look like that ran through? Eat up? I think I've been beat up, Bob, I can't do it. And then you know he'd be ashy down there like that's not cute. And then I remember I don't know if it was him, Oh, what was other guy's name now. I used to like to see this dude. Fuck um oh no, Helen, not viroling. I don't have a guy could be giving you backrubs while he got the dicking, Like,

how are you rubbing the damn porn bitch? You're giving her a back beside with the dick. It's for the entertainment purposes for girls. But man, that sounds really good. So trying that with your lady tonight. You're welcome, ladies. So what what did we learn today? I don't feel like I learned ship maybe either, man, I feel like you need to interview some more people. I don't think we're gonna learn anything different. These niggas just go are we are sorry? These men? We should also do women

to see why women? Oh yeah, we need to talk. I don't want to. I don't want this to be one sided. I don't want men to feel like this is like a man bash podcast, because it's not. You know, it's not because we'd be on some both shoot two. There's such thing as a fun girl, right, and we just wanted to hear him it's truth, you know, And I feel like we got to receive that today, just

the voice, the recognition like so women. If if there are any ladies who would like to participate again, send us an email or you can hit us up on Instagram or Instagram. Is we talk Back Podcast? So it's at We Talked Back Podcast, or you can email us and let us know you want to participate at We Talk Back p o D at gmail dot com and we would much appreciate it. We're gonna be talking some real ship on this show. We have like so many different segments that we've created. There's gonna be so much

fun for y'all to participate with us. Um, we're some of the segments that we got. One of my favorites dumb bitch stories. Yes, we want to hear your dumb bitch stories. You know, not necessarily just you know, trying to play you, calling you a dumb bitch, but you know, it gives us an opportunity to maybe coach you a little bit. I like to think of myself as a whole coach and um, it also gives us an opportunity to laugh at your Yes, we can't laugh at our own ship. What can we laugh at? All of us

have been a dumb bitch before? Because I remember crying in my eclipse bit that was no fun and it was different. Yeah, I had to level up, but them tears and the eclips and clips didn't have no a C. I used to ride with the top by, but when I remember, it was raining, so I have no a C. And I rolled the windows up in the summertime. Bitch almost died. Motherfucker. Guy Steve out and I called the

same nigger that was cheat up. He's like, I can't see and he was just like, he said the same thing that was cheating on you, and he was just like, a bitch, just let me know when you make it home safe like you have. Damn, man, women, do not be out here using your vagina on someone that you cannot depend on. That's our dumb bitch advice for today. Okay, along with dumb bitch stories. The first dumb bitch motherfucking show.

God damn, that's an old dumb bitch story. Know you have that, dumb but that was a long time ago. We're making new dumb bitch memories now. We're talking to any women out here right now who has a quarter tank of gas ball tires oil oil oil, change light on and you're calling your brother and you inig house in those conditions, right, and then when you need to help your brother come out to help you instead of then you're getting the whole attitude because your brother won't

come right. Don't be her reevaluate your vagina. Man. So that's gonna be a real fun segment. Um, ask a Black friend. This is an opportunity for you nine black people to call in or email us and ask questions to us that you wouldn't normally ask the black people who existing around you. Or maybe you don't even have any black people around you and you're in Wyoming or some ship like that, and you want to ask some black people about some ship, anything like why do we

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