Dapper 101 with Kelvin Davis

I went to Nashville and I participated in the Thrill of Possibilities summit hosted by Nissan on her radio and Black Effect, and I got to speak to some young bright at Bushy Tail College students on a panel about h b c U S And it was so much fun. I really enjoyed it. The students looked like they enjoyed it. Everybody from Black Effect Network really had a good time. I'm so I was grateful to be a part of

something so monumental in our black community. Thank you Nissan, thank you Black Effect, and thank you our Heart Radio. For having me for that. That was great. That sounds super dope. Glad you enjoyed yourself. Yeah it was great, man, it was How about your weekend? I didn't do much chill out prepare for this week that's it. Um. I really want to come to your your stock class when you hosted, I know you were doing preparing for that.

Oh yes, okay, so this is what i'd be preparing for all right, So yes, y'all, and I have been meaning to mention it. Thank you for in minding me. So I have finally started putting together curriculum for my options traded and UM class. I'll put some notifications at LOOT that out soon for anybody who would like to attend. Even if you don't ever trade options, I feel like all black people should know how to trade options, especially

with our declining economy. The stock marketing ain't going no where. So if you can learn how to make money on the downside of the stock market, like that's where it is at, so you still make money even if the stock market goes down with option trading. So get in there. Check it out, man, that's abuton, it's for me. Oh yeah, it's not free. And look niggas. It ain't free, you know. I just want to get compensated a little bit for

my time. But for the most part, it definitely is going to be a well put together, comprehensive course, inexpensive in comparison to a lot of ship you might get charged for out here, because I have seen some programs upwards five dollars. He would be out here trying to charge people. I just want you to have the knowledge that's where my love comes from. I don't be there seeking some of that little bit. What happened is stupid internet news. Okay, so the Internet isn't a frenzy right now.

You know young Miami's baby daddy. So I was I I know on Instagram he's eight or eight, my boas, but his son and friends in the class and recorded his teacher, their teacher basically saying that how he's racist. Essentially, Yeah, I did see him. It's a Texas middle school balls bowls b O h l S is that bowls whatever? Middle school? The teacher balls to the wall and they're gonna like he's on administrative leading for admitting to his very young, impressionable class that he is in fact a racist.

And I was trying to, you know, listen to the discussion to understand the context in which he was saying, because there is a point where he says, I don't hate anybody. I don't. He said, I think I'm ethnocentric, and which means I do think I belong to the

superior race. What do you think about that? I think what the teacher and that situation was trying to explain could have possibly, you know, he could have explained things a little bit better, but I think he would was probably trying to tell them a difference between prejudice and racism, maybe a little bit, because I think that most people are prejudiced. We do have prejudices against other groups of people that are outside of our group. That's like a

real thing. We have prejudices against our own people. Yeah, so especially in a time like we're in right now, right all the ship that's going on with the j community or whatever, however why we can't say it, but yeah, so with with that, it's almost like, um, and then now we're saying we're the real ones we on this earth and all that stuff. Everybody probably practices, Um, what is the word you use? Ethno centrism? Ye? I don't think that. I think everybody practices that, but nobody wants

to be honest about it. Mm hmm um. I was like, what play for? I meant for the team. Yeah. So even like when we get mad when we see black men with white women, like why can't they do that without our group feeling some type of way about it. So there is the prejudice because I ain't got no man, right, if you had a man, you were feeling type of way.

But that's that's really where it stems from. But I don't know, I don't think that was a conversation for Yeah, yeah, that was, you know, because a lot of adults aren't, you know, ready for that conversation. So to be having this conversation with these kids and their parents aren't present probably wasn't the best idea, you know, he would I don't know, mm hmmm, because you don't need to be sitting in the school with kids that black kids majority.

It looks like the classroom was full of black kids. I saw hispanic, yeah, but for the most part it was black boys. I did see a little Hispanic boy in there, so it's probably and they were the most vocal. But yeah, if you say he didn't say he was prejudiced. He said he was racist, And it was that word that was like triggering for me, like racist, right, I don't know, he did say he was racist, you know, people adding white supremacists on top of that and all

that should just have a negative connotation. But I mean, I might could be seen as a black supremacist. Yeah, a lot of black people could be seen that way. M but I don't like to put labels on stuff in that way. I'm definitely not racist. I'm definitely We're not in a position to do anything really systemically racist to another group of people at all. I don't know if I think I'm better because I'm Black. I just think I'm better and black at the same time. Period

just happened to be that way. I'm sorry, and the black was just the icing on the cake of all. And who's to tell another group of people they too can't feel that same way. I feel like us being that way in America is shunned on a lot, Like you can't display black power and proud to be black without another group of people feeling like you're oppressing them, where we are not in a position to oppress any body. But you know why, I feel like white people might

feel like they can't have white pride. They do. It's a whole movement right now. Yeah, Oh, you feel like there's a white white men in particular feel like they no longer have a voice in America when y'all still like literally running or are they? Because the ship we've seen in the last couple of weeks, I don't know who running, what what's happening? I don't know right, but I think that anytime going forward, black people need to look at things a little bit more objectively instead of

having so much emotion. Because don't forget, like, even though it's a black person and the black kid experience, who put this ship on the internet, Like the ship stole makes its way out there to force us to have all these emotions about ship. Just sit back and be a fucking observer. So how do you feel like if a white person call you the end or with the hard e R or with the A on the end, how would you respond to anybody's saying that word to me, um,

especially a white person. For sure you're gonna get smacked. I would. That's that's the derogatory word that they shouldn't not they should not use. Yes, we've found some type of way to make it a positive thing, because you gotta look at where the word actually comes from. Like some people it's niger I think that. I used to feel like you call me the N word, I'm punching

your mouth right. But now I'm in a space where I'd be like, who burn Like it don't have no power over you, Like, try again, bitch, that don't hurt my feeling even the er. Yeah, I feel like it wouldn't burn me no more. I don't feel like it has that type of power. But it hasn't happened to me, so I can't speak to I might be just sitting here saying like, oh, bit, that don't affect me. It rolled off my shoulder like water, you know. Like, but I might be wrong. I might take it to your

motherfucking ask just out of anybody using that. Anybody using that ere gonna be a problem for me. I've seen when Kanye was, you know, all in the news a couple of weeks ago. I forgot who it was, but it was a celebrity. Um, but he tweeted, he said, fuck you nigger? What the er? He tweeted that, yeah, it's still like it's a black man. Don't get me wrong, it is. I would not be okay with it, but I don't know if it would be powerful enough to

take me to be violent towards this ignorant person. You're the real nigger, right, that's true. So I don't know. I'm still I'm still a w P working progress. I was watching SNL. Well everybody's probably seen as SNL. Dave Chappelle, Um, I guess, yeah, stand up recently, and it's I mean, it's still relevant to what we're talking about about. This teacher in Texas. He found a real comedic way to have these uncomfortable conversations. Mm hmm. He always does, but

mm hmmm upset him right now. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, because everything is anti semitic at this point. I Um, I saw a video where they were literally listing all the black people throughout history, you know, from Civil Rights on down that were called anti semitic. Girl everybody Oprah. Oprah was called anti semitic for having a Jewish family. Are multiple Jewish families on his show one time, and they were literally talking about how they secretly worshiped the

devil in the house. She got called anti Semitic for it though, and these are Jewish people telling their truth. Yeah, that's wow. Uh. Day Chappelle made a joke that he said, when black people do it their gangs, When Italian do it is their mob, and when Jewish people do it, it's a coincidence. Ever, again, that's funny. I mean if a comedian, we're just so sensitive. I mean, you can't even be humorous anymore. There was a time when a comedian could like make fun of anybody and it would

be okay because it's out of humor. Not anymore. They about to cancel Dave Chappelle to man, Dave Chappelle cannot be canceled. He's proven that multiple times. He just is battling the l g B d Q e O g B t Q community last year he can't be canceled. But don't y'all think it's kind of weird how we're laughing at it though? Why Kyrie and Kanye they're really

going through some ship right now. But a comedian can come out and have an audience that is, you know, diverse, the diverse audience and everybody could laugh together but these two black men, Like we're laughing at it, but these two black men really going through it, the truth that Dave Chappelle is now telling. And y'all can laugh at it because it's in a him a comedy. This ship

has happened to two black people. Well, all right, we're laughing, but this just happened this week, you know, this Saturday. We ain't seeing what they do today. Chappelle, he might go through it too. We're gonna see watch what happens, you know, watch what happens next. No, but why are we even gonna watch what's happening? The thing is, I feel like the only way that outside uh forces could do anything to us is if some people within our group are complicit. If everybody be like, no, y'all can't

do that to him. Everybody gotta be like that, though, y'all can't do that if they come agrees, because all right, when it comes to anti Semitism, only a Jewish people can decide what's hurtful to them, right. I can't tell you that that's not a hurtful statement, or that that's you know, they can't tell you that there's Jewish people actually right now and trying to take down to a d L. That's a real thing because they are essentially extoring people at this point. Well, I mean that's similar

to to black people. And and you're proving what people are saying, by the way, y'all are trying to punish them. You're proving what people are saying. You're proving the power that you have every time you come at somebody. You're proven what people with the joke is. You're proving the joke is what I'm saying. Do you see what I do? You understand what I'm saying? So? Yeah? So is it is it even needed? Is it necessary? Do we need a league like that? We need something? Good? Prayer? It's

just not enough. Um. I also saw on Instagram that Savage said that NAS is not relevant. I know they were on a clubhouse forum and they were talking about what relevancy is and NAS is impact and it got into like a heated debate, and he says that NAS is not relevant. He only has his fan base. Do you agree with that? So? Okay, we know we're talking about two different people, two different rappers, from two different erarors. Okay, twenty one Savage came up on the mumble wrap era.

I like twenty one Savage. I can tell twenty one Savage was raised by a man you know, based on his conversation. I don't think that, um so okay, So twenty one Savage. NAS may not be relevant to twenty one Savage and twenty one savages fan base, right, but NAS is definitely relevant to a lot of people, especially maybe our age group and older. And that is one

of the things that twenty one Savage said. He was like, you know, if I if I were to have a concert and I came out of ninety five and I have a concert in two and all of my um fans from from came to my concert, does that really make me relevant or do I just have a strong fan base? So I get that, but relevant to who? And I feel like social media now maybe it's NAS is not relevant on social media as much as but if you have a strong fan base, that would make

you relevant. These people still align right right there because they over thirty, you know. So I think because we don't see nas fhase plasid on social media all the time like we see other people, or maybe when a jay Z does something is a little bit um more profound. I don't know, but I listened to nas last album. I haven't listened to the most recent one that just came out. But that last album was a fucking hit. I don't know why, Like I still listen to it.

I don't know why people ain't on it. Maybe it's just because it's not their age before, and maybe they don't like the flow anymore. I don't know, but I listened to learn things. That's why I like NAS album. Yeah, I'm you know, I'm a fan of Nas. I haven't listened to like none of his new ship. I'm illmatic, still mad, you know, all that ship. But I guess you can be relevant to forty year olds, but there's a lot of us. I mean, I know, m a

R forty. I'm not That's why I said, y'all like that we're adding on to my name numbers, but not to me. NAS is relevant. Nas is so fucking fine. I like NAS, like I want to haul at NAS, but I could. I just think Nas might be like a little bit socially awkward. You don't get that from him. Oh, I don't know. You don't know what to know about Nas, right right? Yeah? But I mean he's in all things tech, like all the things that young boys are doing, like Crypto,

all these tech things. Like NAS has all types of businesses, all types of ship to make him relevant. So it just depends on what's relevant to you. Because I don't think Nas gonna ever not be relevant, especially in hip hop, right. I don't know there's some little nigga ship, but I mean he not headlines in those shows no more. I guess that's what he's meaning. Like, do you think like these big ticket shows, Nas is not gonna be a headliner on Do you think that this new album with

Drake it's kind of helping twenty one Savages career? Absolutely? Because I listened to Savage albums like I like twenty one Savage as a person, I don't necessary like his music like that. I haven't listened to the album yet, though you know I like the album. I don't know if I'm the target audience anymore. Because he was talking about tell me your fence to show me who you really are, and I'm like, bit, I'm too grown to

have no fence to that. It's not that line was not for me, no, But you know, offenses like you got like a little secret account where you could be your cell phone. So all right, but it's it's grown. It's grown. Yeah, especially celebrities like they can't. They gotta put on this image as as a celebrity. So what are you saying is let me see that of fences,

I can see the real you bitch, be yourself. These bitches don'ta being a self, so they you know, grown ass Listen, I thought Fenster was for bitches who was hiding from their mama. You hide from the world. Yeah, so they can comment and say that ship they really be wanting to say to people. So basically, that's the first problem. If you're a grownass woman, you gotta have a fence that you need to reevaluate your life. You

out here faking my page is my page. You're gonna get who I am all day and the same, the same person. Yep. I don't know. Sometimes I be wanting to say something sh it now, I wanted to be my face on it, so I can understand having offense to it. I am about to go create one. I got several accounts, but I'm not about to be uh, I just say that ship. Maybe that's a problem. Maybe I need me offense to because I just be saying

whatever I want under anybody post. You don't like it, go to church about it, talk to the right all right, y'all, we're gonna go to commercial. But when we come back, we have the amazing Kelvin Davis. He is the author of Notoriously Dapper. He is a man who's all about body positivity for men, and we really want to talk to him because we want you all to stop wearing them shirts in the pool. Y'all don't need them T

shirts in the pool. So come back and listen to Mr Kelvin Davis so he can draw some jewels for y'all. We'll be right back. We have a special guest on we talked back this week. Okay. He's an sc native and he'd be putting that ship on. Okay, we got the we got the expools it. Mr Calvin Davis, also known as a Notoriously Dapper. He's a founder and creator of Notoriously Dapper, a super body positive style guide from

men of all shapes and sizes. And essentially, you are here killing it because you're like the first black, big and tall model for Gap and Target tar J. Right, y'all welcome Mr notoriously zapp until we talk back. Kelvin Davis, thank you for joining us yet, thank you guys for having me. Yeah, I'm exciting. You look good, goddamn it I do. Yeah good. You know I'm I'm sitting here

in my enchanted for us, as you call it. Yeah. So, being a man from South Carolina, from Columbia, South Carolina, you know that eating is like part of our culture, is like entertainment, and gaining weight is part of our culture. You know. We like we we drenched everything in butter in the South, you know. And rice rice go, Like at my mama's house, you will order a pizza and it will still be a pot of rice on that

for whatever reason, I don't know. So with that being said, do you feel like men can feel like conscious about their bodies Like I feel like when we were growing up, they weren't allowed like if you gain weight and you got big or whatever, you weren't allowed to have like insecurities about your body as a man for sure. Yeah.

You know, I noticed when I got to high school, really was when I started to feel like a little bit of insecurity towards my body because I was surrounded by like what this societal standard of male beauty was because I like worked at Abercrombie, I worked at Like Express,

I worked at all these stores in the mall. So every time, like we would put up these ads, I would be like, damn, you know, any of these dudes look anything like But there's dudes that look like me coming here all the time, they go shopping, you know what I mean. So and then, um, it was really around like my sophomore year of high school when I started, when I started developing a lot more stretch marks on my back and stomach. I started to, like buil a

little bit insecure. But I come from a family where both were like both of my parents are very body positive and they're very much like you know, love who you are, Love the fact that you're black, love the fact that you're big, all these different things. So around like my senior gear was when I started to feel a little bit more confident in who I was. And obviously, like later on in life, you know, things changed and

I started to feel insecure again. But I do feel like being a man in South Carolina, especially since our food, like you said, it's so heavily and doubtsed in our culture you know with rice and you know, grains and butter and carves and all this stuff, right and yeah, vibration. Yeah, and don't ever go to Big Mama house like trying to like turn down some stuffing or some rice because because people get affected. Right. But it's like and like, you know, God forbid you tell tell them I'm trying

to watch my I'm trying to watch my weight. They'd be like boys, you mean, like that's so it was like one of those things where it's like you have to like to like because you know, like you don't want to feel like roasted, because even though you may feel like bad about about your body in that moment, they'll make you feel bad for feeling bad about your Yeah. Boy, if you don't get to sit down and eat thisse motherfucker part at bit of food on your plate either,

you get roasted for that. Right. I alt talking about this blog? How did you? How did you start the blog? So the blog, y'all is notoriously dapper. How did you come up with your blog? Tell us a story about it? So I went to USC and uh I graduated with the art education with the miner in oil painting. I got my first job over at St. Andrew's Middle School, which you know, y'all probably familiar with being and from,

I mean being in the Colombia area. Um So, when I got my first job, I wanted to get like some stylish clothing, you know, look fresh to death, because you know, like you said, I always get that ship up. So I wouldn't go to the store to go get like a red blazer. And I asked for a size forty eight and they only had a size forty forty two that was on mannequin, and I tried it on.

I was like, this is definitely not gonna going to fit so ASTI Later I said, hey, do you do you have like a size forty eight or maybe even a forty six. She was like, no, we don't have a larger size. I said, well, can you check online, maybe checking another store. I'll drive to go get it because it was just that fresh. And then she looked me dead in my face and told me, well, maybe you're just too fat to shop. Yeah no, she was

white for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Like the fight though, y'all y'all went to jail, you might not even have so like after that, like that was really my first time being like publicly body saying, and I tell people that I think it hurt even more than it came from a woman, because you know, if it came from a guy, I would have took it with a grain of salt, being like whatever, like Nick Hayden, like whatever, you know what I mean, But like when it comes from a woman,

there's obviously a little bit of truth that's behind it. And then I started to feel like do women view me this way? Like do women that give me attractive? And you mean it's just like being like fat because I did had gained a little bit of weight at that point, and I started to feel like really insecure, and I was like, man like, I couldn't like And this was a point in time in life. I had just had my first daughter, so my daughter at the time was about a year and a half year years old.

I had just gotten um and engaged to my now ex wife, and then I was just you know, I was just like feeling very down right, and I was like, I can't shake this feeling. So I remember going on Facebook and trying to type on status being like, man like, black men need a safe space to talk about how they feel. But then I deleted it because I knew as soon as I posted it the comment sex, it was gonna be like you saw, get your ass, go go to the gym that stop eating all this, you

know what I mean. So I knew it was gonna like it wasn't gonna be the same as if a woman didn't. Right, Like, if a woman did it, you know, other women would come on there and be like, that's so city that that happened to you, Like that woman should have never did all that. But if I were to as like a man, especially a black man, come on social media and then about that, people be like, if you don't get your ass, I mean, there's plenty of other stuff for you to worry, we'll worry about, right.

So it's like y'all are not allowed to be going right exactly down because y'all hear his story. And I always say this, and I get pushed back, is it women you couldn't be vulnerable with? Or is it men that you can't be vulnerable with? Because that's the narrative is pushed, that is women that men can't be vulnerable with. But I bet you you had posted that thing maybe because this woman did do that to you in the store.

But if you had posted that on your social media, I bet you you would have gotten the same response from women, and you would have gotten that negative response from men. So who can't you be ving? Is it

us or your homeboys? It's definitely men for sure. I mean I feel like I mean because I mean, that just goes to show right then and there, because I was worried more about the male perspective rather than the female perspective, cause I knew females understand like body shaming, especially like they and they will understand how it feels to be insecure or to compare yourself to somebody else, right, But men, even though they do do it, they like

feel like they don't want to talk about it. I'm too games to like I don't care, Like, yeah, you do, like you care about your body? Like even like to dude, what's what's what's his bad man? Kevil? Like didn't he just get like some or some something? Yeah, So it's like dudes are out there roasting him. It's like, but dude,

let that dude live his life. If he was feeling some kind of way about his body and he wanted to do something to make itself feel good, let him got her homeboy right now, walk around here looking like a bad bit He got the chisel, he got his abs done, he had he got lightful. Yeah yeah, look no but she said the bad bitch. He just did what we're talking about, you know. Yeah, but he don't mind. He didn't call it bad bage, like you don't care. Like it's funny because we know that thing like the

surgery and stuff is associated with bad bitches. So yeah, right yeah, because like because they're starting to call Kevo's transformation the BB man all instead of instead of the BBL, they called the BB male, which I mean, I'm like, okay, that's cool. But it's like a lot of men though,

are like checking and like roasting this man. But it's like if you had the bread, if you had the money, and if you had the chance to do it, you probably would do it too, you know what I mean, But just because you ain't getting the bread, and like, you know, like this dude out here living his best life, like you're kind of hating on him. He just got

a White Lives Matter tattoo. So I don't know how much we can we will, yes, any who did he get tattooed on his body, Um, Jeff Bayes, No, no, Mark Zuckerberg, Yeah, it was Mark Zuckerberg, yes, and a white Lives Matter, White lives yes, nigga. He really I would want to hear. I want to hear whether like is it supposed to be like funny or what was the Like I don't understand the psyche behind that tattoo, Like that's too permanent to be funny, guys, okay for real?

Yeah for real? Yeah? Yeah. So pretty much like after that, I wanted to start like a a a blog, you know what I'm saying, because I always wanted to start a fashion blog because I've always been into fashion. I always was in I was always into art, so I knew how to take good pictures. I knew how to pose good. I knew what looked good in images of what did it? So I started? So I started this blog. I started in two twelve actually, and this was like

be four. Instagram was like, you know, it's the thing that it is now. I created like a similar Instagram profile which I have like now, like the same one, but it was pretty much just to help promote what I was doing on my blog. Right, And it was around like around two thousand and sixteen. Really when like the women's movement got really popular and started trending, I guess like people exactly yeah, like like like the first

plus sized woman for this and that. So after that, people just from a natural curiosity point started googling male body positivity. And when they did that, my blog was the first thing that came up. So just out of like societal like cure curiosity, I became this this sort of like spokesperson and leader for like male body positivity.

So all right with that, I have a question. I have a question about body positivity because some would say that, you know, people are promoting unhealthy lifestyle by promoting body positivity. What do you have to say to that. I have to say that I don't necessarily agree with any of that.

I feel as though if you are requiring people to be a certain size, whether it's big or small, and in order to feel good about yourself, I feel like that's unhealthy because I feel like everybody is built differently and would never weigh under like two d and thirty pounds. This is not possible. If I did, my mother would look would look at me like like the black community, let the doctor, yeah, like yeah, like she literally like,

are you sick? You know what I mean. So it's like there's some people that just aren't built in that way. And there are some people that I feel like, take body positivity to the extreme and they do things for clout or they do things, uh that necessarily aren't body positive, and they try to claim it as being body positive.

And I feel as though, like body positivity is for all bodies and all races, because I feel like it gets trapped in to like this curvy white woman mindset and when everybody thinks about body positive positivity, they think about a curby white woman. But it's like, why is that, like the why is that the mold for what body positivity? Because Lizzo, it should be what body positivity is to, you know, because she's very healthy. She lives a healthy lifestyle.

I mean she's she can literally play play, play the flute, dads do all this stuff, and there's women that are half her size that can't even walk up again exactly, and she'd be performings for real. Yeah yeah, So let me ask you this because all right, your established black man from Columbia, South Carolina and Colombia. People might think

that a South Carolina country. They can't dress. But it's a lot of flyers people coming out of South Carolina, including us here on talking right now, How did you turn this into money? How? Yeah? So so people don't. So from when I started my blog, from two thousand and twelve all the way to two thousand and seventeen, I did all this stuff for like free. I didn't get paid for anything. So I was buying my own clothes, my own ties, my own hats, everything, and I was,

you know, just showing different outfits. It wasn't until I went to New York Men's Fashion Week and two thousands, like late two thousand sixteen, almost two thousand seven seventeen when I met a couple of like other mail bloggers and they were, you know, talking to me about, you know, how much money they make. And they were like, you must make tons of money because you everywhere. And I'm like, I don't make any money and these dudes are making like six figures and I'm like, how are you guys

making this kind of money? And they're like, well, whenever a brand like reaches out to you and stuff, like if they offer you free clothes and say no, they need to pay you conversation for using your for like using platform, and I'm like and I'm like, you can do that, and they're like, that's what you should be doing, Like aren't you making Like isn't this your job? I said no. I was like, I am an art teeth the teacher, Like this isn't my job. This is like

a thing that I do for like fun. And they were like if you care this much about it, and you're creating this amount of content for fun, like and we everybody here thoughts like you were getting paid for this stuff because your stuff is great, like you know. So I'm like thinking, like in my head, damn, I'm

not getting paid for none of this stuff. So this company reached out to me about a week after that, and then it was like a sweater brand called h Rivington based based on the Santa Barbara, California, and he wanted to send me his sweater and like me like take a few pictures of it and write and write like a blog a blog a blog post and then posted on my Instagram and Twitter, Twitter, and I was like and I was like, let me just test out the water. So I sent in my price. It was like, well,

I'll do it, but for this amount. And he was like, Okay, I'll pay you whenever you get the sweats, or just send me a picture of it saying that you got it, and then I'll send you the money. I was like yeah, and I'm like, day, I'm like, you know what I mean, Like I'm thinking, I mean, I'm I'm like the middle school art teacher that's barely making like dollars a year, and this dude's about about to pay me almost for like this stuff, and I need to keep this starting yeah, winning.

So I was like, okay, so this is how people

start to monetize this kind of stuff. So after I did that a couple of times, I did it obviously like on my own, and then like the contracts got a little more trickier and I had to like actually learn how to read them and learn how to like, you know, say you need to change this purpose to this because there was one con contract that I signed with the gene company based out of Oakland that basically, if if I wouldn't have read it and signed it, they would have like used my name and likeness all

the way to two. Yeah. But I but like, you know, being like this, you know teacher, like, you know, like you're just happy to get extra money. You're just signing everything, right. So then I started to like something like it was almost like God told me. Like God, I was like, hold on, brother, slow to slow up. Yeah, it was like slow down. It was like reading. Yeah, it was like read this, Read this, brother. So I read it

and I like send them email back. I was like, hey, yo, this doesn't sound right, like seeing y'all can use my ship into like two two thousand and seven, like two thousand seven to like, oh, it's supposed to be only for two thousand and seventeen. I say, ain't no way, y'all missed the one in the two ain't no way perfect? Yeah, right, So then they sent it back. I signed it and

then I like did it. And then around two thousand and seventeen, and in the beginning of that school year, so the two thousand and seventeen eighteen school year was my last year teeth the teaching. I signed with Bridge Models and two thousand seventeen, and then a week after I signed with them, Target and booked me as their first like big and tall male black male model, and I went to I went to New York and did it and it was awesome. And then I come back.

You know, it was really strange for me at first because I'm still a tech teacher. I'm still teaching these badass kids like that don't give a funk about anything that I have to say or do. They're like Mr David is looking like, you know, saying like they are seriously, like they were always on the ask, like they were always on me right always, I know, like they were

always roast me. So I was like, I go from like being this like yeah, like the celebrated black male like Target model, this and that, and then I leave and come back to the castroom when they like you ball head up, I'm like, come on, y'all. And then around around like around Thanksgiving was when a lot of my students started to see some of my ads and they started to like be like, you know, Mr Davis, uh,

do you have like another job or something. I was like no. And then like this girl one day she had like a Target catalog come to her house and she brought it in the classroom. Was like, y'all, look at Mr milk dud up in Target Target and stuff. And I told them I lied to him and told them that I had I had a twin brother. So they're like, oh, ship, like you got a twin brother.

I said, yeah, his like his name is Kevin. Like we looked just like obviously because we're twins, but that's not me and they and they're all like, oh damn okay. So around like around like March of two eighteen, I was about to like it was two months before I

didn't sign my contract to come back. One of my sixth traders was like, yo, Mr Davids, so we like follow you on Instagram, right, and every time that like you're gone here, we noticed that, like your twin has gone too, like your twin is like wherever you are, but y'all never posted pictures together. All right, I'm like, you know what, that dude don't make a lot of sense. And he was like, so we all came up with the conclusion that you don't have a twin brother, and

that's and that's been you the whole time. I said, yeah, come out, yeah yeah. And as much as they roasted me, they also like loved me, right, yeah, like love loved me. So whatever I was thinking about, quit quit quitting, I would ask them. I asked him around April. I was like, look, y'all, I'll think about not coming back. You know, I'm gonna miss some of y'all. Some of y'all, man, you know what I mean, right? And they were like, Yo, Mr Davids, you always tell us to go after our dreams, so

why wouldn't we encourage you to go after yours. It's like, what from reading me? You know what I mean? But then I was like wow. I was like, and that really meant a lot to me to hear six seventh and eighth eighth graders, girl, we want to see you with like, we want to see you represent all the stuff that you've been teaching us and all the things that you've brought us to do, and all the confidence you've given us. Because I was like everybody's favorite teeth

the teacher. Everybody would come. Man. I would literally have kids skip class to come to art. Like, they wouldn't leave Jim. I'm like, who doesn't want to play basketball? They would leave Jim and come to be and in my art class. I like, you ain't supposed to be up in here. They like, Yo, just just let me hang out for like an hour. I'm a class only minutes, right, and it's still kind of like Jim because I'm making

a paper mache basketball, you know. So you know, in the past, um men didn't I guess really until your blog, as far as I'm concerned, or until you this personality now didn't have like real life representation for different body types, not as much as women do. So do you think that social media kind of help with that? Do you think social media played a big role in now men

being able to do some of the things that women do. Yeah, of course, yeah, I absolutely do, because I feel like if it wasn't for social media, a I wouldn't be as known as I am. And a lot of people, like a lot of men that uh follow me on like,

you know, look at my look at my stuff. It's because they see not only the positive interactions that I have with women, but also with men, and they're like, if this dude could be like as vulnerable as he is on so social media, be you know, feminist and be pro all this stuff and still be a man, Like I could do this too, Like there's no reason for me to hide underneath the shell of quote unquote black and masculinity. Like nah, Like I don't want to

be that way, because that's this and that. Like my daddy told me nine not not to be soft. My mama told me that boys don't cry, but I'm like as black men, and I honestly did. Didn't even start going to therapy until I got divorced. In you know what I mean, I was like, I need to go see somebody because I'm about the like I'm about to lose my motherfucking mind. Like I literally was like literally

going crazy. I felt like, you know, so, I like encourage not only men to love who they are as far as body wise, but to also take care of their mentals. Because you can work out and be as physically healthy as you want to, but if you don't work on that mind, if you brain that body, do

mean nothing. Like you can have the biggest arms, the nicest body, or you can feel as body confident as you want to, but if your mentals are not right, like if you are narcissistic you treat women back gas like you are not yeah, like you are not a good guy. Like you can look as good as you want to, but if you don't treat people nice, it's not great. And I live by I live by this motto. It's nice to be important, but it's most but it's

more important to be nice. And I really I live by that in my everyday life because it's like it's nice for me to be important to people and people be like, you know, Kelvin is doing the stuff. I love it. I love to see it, but it's more important for me to be nice to other people and to like show other black men love. Very adamant a gentleman if you're just a whole asshole out here, yeah, like you have tips to be the modern gentleman and

that sounds like one of them. Do you have any others that you could just share with us, Like, yeah, yeah, I do. Um so for so those listening, I do have a book. It was a Image Award nominated book. You know, yes, I was nominated for Most Outstanding Literature two seventeen, but I lost the Oprah shout out to Oprah. If if you lose to anybody, let it be O. Yeah. Yeah.

But I tell man that you have to be you have to define what a man is for you, right, and if being a man for you is being gangster and you know, doing all this stuff and bad mouthing people and living a lifestyle that necessarily could get you in a lot of trouble or could hurt people around you or even hurt yourself. You're not really a gentleman. I mean you, I mean you can dress like a gentleman,

and I like, start off. I started. I started off by telling people that, you know, a gentleman back in the nineteen twenties could be a guy that could wear a certain tie and still beat his wife, be racist. Uh like hang peeple people be he could even be as far as go and be a part of a

clan meeting and still be considered a gentleman. Right, So I write this in my book, and I'm like, we need to redefine what a gentleman is because all these men out here just thinking it's about dressing, because it's like because like yeah, because like you can dress nice and then take a woman out on a date and then you know you'd be nice to her until she doesn't give you what you want, and then all of a sudden you turn into somebody that you never even

be out and it's like, look like, who the funk are you? Like, first of all, that's somebody's daughter, Like that's somebody's like that's somebody's everything, and you don't talking to people like they don't have no sense because you brought them crab leggs. Like you know what I'm saying it seriously like yeah, like these dudes really be out here, like be like, oh I bought this girl. I'm like, okay, thinking, well next time, don't buy if you like we need

pulling up. Yeah, all the crabs yeah right, I mean, thank you for the crab leggs, but don't act like I owe you something because they want you want you to pay him pussy exactly. Yeah. And it's like, dude, like she can pay you in conversation, she can pay you on other forums. And how do you not know that if you go out somewhere else, like like if you go out on another day, she might pick up

the text, right, you know what I mean. It's very transactional in that one, you know, and breakfast and holidays I got you, breakfast, and birthdays I got, I got that ship, I got lets. I'm not about to just be going to my pocketbook on the date. No, yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel you honestly sometimes I will. I have because especially if I had sensed from the person that you think I told you, like I gotta pay you back and put you tonight. I might go ahead and pay for it and I just want to talk to you

no more. But yeah, I would be Yeah, sometimes I do it just because I feel like being nice, you know, honestly, not like a typically not a first day I'll pay, but I might. Let's say we go out, and I'd be like, you know what, I got it this time. So I was married for ten years, so I haven't dated. I mean, so what now? Zero stars would not recommend ghetto. Okay,

it's definitely hard. It's a different world because sometimes, you know, a lot of men do treat it very transactional, like especially if they go take you to a nice place and the tab is expensive, they do feel like, you know, damn, I showed you this nice time, show me a nice time back, and it's like, damn, I thought I was telling all my best jokes, right we had. I thought we both had a good time. Why do you need

to come up to my house at this point? Like, and I feel like I don't know if it's the young girls, And y'all can correct me young ladies if you're wrong, But y'all, it's giving up the pussy fact, like y'all really the game. So it's like people think that that is what it's supposed to happen now, like you need to sleep with someone instantly after going on the date. I think I think most men, if the problem is their coin, right, they don't want to feel

like they're getting finessed. But you don't. Why are you dating? Are taking ten different women out in a month? You know, pick a couple and then it won't hurt your pocket that much because what they're concerned about is how much they spent on you. Right, So now you're not giving up nothing out that spent all my money, but date with discernment, date with purpose, and you won't feel like

you get in finesse. You won't be taking all these different people out because they everybody shouldn't be worthy of your coin. But if your goal at the end of every date is to get pussy, that's why they're mad, right, And then aren't their websites exactly to those grinders and all these all these different ways want regular women? Right? Yeah? Yeah, it's like it's like the same dude that like don't want a respective woman whenever she gives it up and

it's like I can never wife her out. But it's like, dude, you live like a double Standard's like, do you want to take this woman out on a day and get to know who she is and you can eventually see her as a potential partner? Are you just trying to get some If that's the case, then you don't need to take nobody out on the date. I had a guy tell me over the weekend that out of sixty women, fifty seven of the women that he dated was just for sex. And maybe what potential I got, I got

to get my glances off of that. Hold on, hold I did. I really clashed my pearls. I was like, why are you telling you a group of women? And he said that was common for most men, that typically it's just about the hunt, and maybe two or three of the women that they date in their life is really for real relationship and everybody else is just about, you know, a man's desire to have sexual relationship with

someone and that's it. I can see that from some men's point of view, but I feel like a lot of those men need to go to therapy, Like I honestly say, the therapy, like and I know in the black community is like look down upon us, like we don't go to therapy, like praying about it, Like that's what my grandma used to Amos say, pray by the baby, pray yeah about But I'm like sometimes got busy, you know, sometimes got busy sometimes God like you need to go

you mean, you need to go to somebody else for you, you know what I mean. So therapy for me has really and I and I really encouraged not only all men, but especially black men to actually go because it's I mean, for me, the recent like trauma with black men being killed by the cops and Takeoff staff really arnestly, really

like really hurt me a lot. Like I'm not gonna lie like a lot of like a lot of the other rappers downs, you know, like you know, didn't bother me as much because you know, I wasn't allowed for PAULK. I wasn't allowed for Biggie, you know. I mean, I was alive, but I didn't know who they were, Like I wasn't a teenager. I wasn't do you know what

I mean? But take Off in the medias to me, it was like everything It's like that's what all my students would listen to and like we will always play stir Fry in the classroom like we would like you know. It's like whenever he passed to me, it really really hurt it, really it really did. And I I really I like craft like a couple of hours because I was really hurt. And I feel like a lot of black men don't want to talk about that, Like they don't want to talk about how some something like that

can hurt them. Yeah, because you know, we look at George, look at all these things, and it does hurt us. I don't feel like black men are comfortable talking about any pain, you know, any kind of pain, especially emotional. I don't. I don't think y'all are. No, You're right, like especially I mean, I have a cousin who's pretty much like my brother because his mom, you know, like didn't do her thing, you know, raised them and stuff.

So my parents raised them and we're like brothers. And he just recently started going to my therapy therapist about six months ago, but he was but he was like the same kind of guy, like you're always sucking this

and sucking that and doing this and doing that. I'm like, you need to combat, like you need to you really need to unpack what's really feeling, like how you really feel about things, because emotional intelligence will change who you are because once you can realize that you're not angry, that you have anxiety instead of being angry, or that

you're nervous instead of being angry. Because for me, it was like all these emotions were to me anger because I would just feel some kind of like I'm angry. It was either anger or sad. I didn't realize that anxiety, nervousness, and depression like all these different aspects of like yeah, yeah a lot of times, yeah, like I would just be mad. I'd be like, wait, but I'm really feeling nervous. I'm really feeling nervous about this outcome. I'm not really

I shouldn't be angry, you know what I mean. Yeah. Yeah, So with the blog, because I know we talked, we mentioned like toxic masculinity briefly, so I I wouldn't he a blog is a really really nice blog. I suggest everybody to go check out the kids really nice. You know,

it tells you like ship, the pack and all. It's all kind of like mentally things we're talking about, Like I just saw some information about ancne and I was like, oh, because maybe my nephew just started day school and over the summertime, I'm like, listen, I'm gonna saying you some stuff because he had really bad acne and like, you don't want to go into high school with that. Like I I possibly could have been a little mean girl a little bit in school, but it was just like

the thing, but I wanted to make sure. I wanted to make sure, like, you know, he cleans up age. It was roasting the stand up comedy for that ass. Okay, people, just I just you know, my ship hit a little bit harder. It's just different. But yeah, I sent him like some you know, some products to make sure he can start working on the skin. My sister ended up taking them to a dermatologist though, But y'all check out the website. But let's talk about check out his box.

But let's talk about the toxic um masculinity for a second, because did anybody actually ever tell you that you couldn't express your feelings? But I know people say that, oh, my teacher did this, They rap about it. My teacher told me I wasn't gonna be shipped. Does that really happened. So how did how is it really developed? Yeah? So I would say luckily for me, both of my parents have never done that. They've always been very much like express how you feel, see how you feel, It's okay

to cry, like all these things. Right. It was more of like the outside society like teachers, friends, uh, counselors, like you know, the people that watched me at daycare, you know what I mean that would tell me boys don't cry like man, not for you know, I had I honestly, So this is a funny story. So at RMO, I had a guidance counselor and she was my freshman year guidance counselor counselor. And I'm not gonna live like seventh and eighth grade. I was sucking around like I did.

I made terrible grades. I was like, I mean, I'm not gonna lie to you. I just wanted to possibly I was trying to find out how to have sex. I'm not gonna lie. I was like I was really out there, like exploring sexuality. I was just a horn dog, right, So I was not focused in school in any kind of way. So my freshman year, you know, we like get there and like the ladies going over my transcript

from ERMO Middle and she's like, like the dog. She's like, you need to be in these classes because you know your grades were terror bol so obviously you know you're very much under performing and you cannot be in these great level classes. I'm like, but I'm smart, I could do whatever I want to. I'm just horning, okay, right, you know. So I'm like, so I'm sitting like these classes. Yeah, so I'm like in these classes, like I'm like, I

know all this stuff. I'm like surpassed this, right, So I'm doing like this lower level work knowing that you know this stuff is like elementary to me. And I went back to her and I was like, yo, I think I need to be bumped out to other classes like this stuff. This is way too easy. Like I need algebra, neied geometry, I need other stuff. And she's like,

you know, you're lucky. I I I basically even put you in these classes because I was about to call her momental and tell them to retain you another year. It's excuse me. She was like, you would be lucky. If you ever make it to a four year institution, you'll be lucky if you ever make it high school. Right. So I go home, like, Mama, She's like, well, I'm like,

you don't believe what the lady told me. She's like what, I'm like, this lady told me I'll be barely like I'll be lucky at if I even make it out of high school. And my mom was like, whoa god damn. So you know my mom, when up there, we had a conversate, say say station, and this lady was so bold she said the same thing in front of my mama. She didn't even back down. She looked at my mama said, Mrs Davis, I'm gonna be honest with you, I will be very shocked if your son ever makes it out

of high school. The way his grades look, the way he came in here, entered. I mean, it's almost like he it's almost like he takes everything as a joke, this and that. Right, So fast forward, right, I get my first teaching job, and guess who the guidance counseling the same lady. The same lady I would have been trying to get her as out of that. So I didn't notice her until about the third week of school, and I was looking at it because you know, like

time had changed. She got a little older and stopped and I was like, are you missed such and such? She was like yeah. I was like, probably don't remember me. I was like, you used to be a guy guy guy discussed at IRMO, right. She was like yeah, I said, you probably don't remember me because I was thinking that she probably said this to like a lot of kids, right, And I was like, you told me that I would be lucky if I even made it out of high school and this and that, and she was like, I

do remember you. I said, well, not only did I make it out of high school, I made it through college and I'm here teaching art. And she was like, oh, okay, really you know what I mean. And it was like and it was like one of one of those moments for her, like I cannot continue saying this stuff. Two kids, I can continue, yeah, and parents, right, like I cannot continue doing this because I have this exquisite college graduate of a black man here teaching the same kids that

come to me for counseling. And I with him. He wasn't gonna be shipped that and didn't imagine how many other people that she told that to that, right, yeah, And imagine how many students believed it, oh yeah, oh yeah,

oh yeah plenty. But for me, I luckily have parents that were like, you can do whatever you want to and I have parents that always told me go after whatever you want to write, because I had like a lot of kids whose parents were like, if you want to go to school for art or fashion, I'm not paying for it. Ain't no black man going going going to be an artist and this and that, like you

need to play sports and all this stuff. Right. So for me, I was lucky enough to have parents that really disembraced who I was as a part of the person and did not try to mold me into what society or what they think I should be. Right, Yeah, was this woman black or white? She was black? It was a yeah, man, I know right now kind of figured she was black, And she probably felt saying that

to you. And that's why she felt comfortable saying it to your mom, because it's like saying it yeah in her mind, it's like, yeah, you can't tell right, don't do that, yeah, right, as counselor is supposed to guide give hope to these kids, exactly, Yeah, you're sucking out now, but you can't be better, you know exactly? Yeah, right, And like she never once told me. It's like, if you try a little harder and get this grade, you know, I'll bump you up. She was basically like, nah, you

ain't it. You'd be lucky if you even make it to you know what I mean. And it was around my junior year was when she left, so she never got to see me graduate because I feel like if she was still there whenever I graduated, she might have, you know, said something to me and been like, you know, I want to you know, but I never I never saw her again until I became a teacher. Yeah, and I felt like that was God's plan and so kind of way. Well, so what for now? What is the

modern gentleman? Now? The modern gentleman to me as somebody that is so I tell people that you you don't have to agree with what everybody does, right. You can have your own views and your own way of how you were raising your own morals. It's okay to not agree with everything that the world presents to you and

tells you that you're supposed to be okay with. But the modern gentleman just understands that even though people don't necessarily agree with everything that the same morals, because you know, you can be you cannot agree with gay marriage and not be homophobus right, Like there's a line, right like, you can like, you can believe that marriage supposed to be between this and then, but you don't have to be homophobic and be angry and transfer that energy in

a negative way and tell people how they should live and be nasty. Right. You can have your own beliefs and agreed to disagree, but live your own life, right, And that's what I feel like. Being a gentleman is a modern one is it is understanding that I feel this way, but I can also understand how this person feels this way. And I'm not mad because I do what's best for me and they do what's best for them. But I don't think the modern gentleman should be transphobic, homophobic,

anti feminist, anti man. Like you shouldn't hate any group of people, you know what I mean? You should you like, you should look at them like I wouldn't do that, And you know, if it was up to me, as somebody did that to me, it might be something different, you you know what I mean? Like There's been plenty of times where you know, I am a modern gym gentleman. I do conduct myself as such, but I will not

tolerate disrespect, especially and in public place. You know. So if anybody were to ever, you know, try to use intimidation or try to use or try to you know, racially attack me, it's game time. Yeah, yeah, like it's game time. So I don't want people to think that the modern gentleman is like this soft man that disagrees for everybody, because hey, modern gentleman agrees and disagrees and understands and loves people and respects people's opinions, but he

also does not tolerate disrespect. He also protects what's important to him. And if violence were to ever be the ultimate outcome, that's just what it has to be. Yeah, Because I always conduct myself as such. But if I'm with both of my daughters and somebody disrespects my oldest daughter, who's in middle school but she looks like she's in a high cool somebody says something to her that's disrespectful, do you really think as her father, I'm going to say, listen, man,

I understand where you're coming from. We're gonna talk like that. No, who are you talking to? Brad's game time? Don't you ever talk to my kids and my way ever? Again? She is not only a female that is my daughter, She's a Lebritears. Oh, are you trying to get sucked up? Right? I think a lot of you know what I mean? Like, I think a lot of time people only respect the people that they know and love. That's why it's so easy to go about and disrespect somebody else's mom, sister,

daughter exactly. But if we look at all black people like that's my sister, you know, maybe get the rid of the word nigga and this replace it with brother and sister for real, because it just gives this different thing internally for us my sister. But you know what, I have embraced not nigger, nigga in a way that it's like it's determining of endearment from me. When I'm amongst black people, I feel yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean definitely when I'm with other black people people

I say nigga all the time. I mean, I'm not gonna cat I say, you know what I mean, Like I'd be like nigga, please, like you know what I'm saying. But like if I'm like, if I'm in a public space, I am more cautious of how I use that. And I do call people brother like whenever I see like

another like guy, but like your brother. You know what I'm saying, Like brother, right, Yeah, But it's like for me, like the modern gentleman has to always be you always have to be kind no matter where you are, Like your initial thought process is, no matter how I'm feeling, somebody else is probably dealing with worse right and you And whenever you leave your bubble, whenever you leave your car, wherever you leave your house, you not You not only have to be on guard, but you have to be

kind to everybody else around because it could just take one thing for you to be in a bad mood and you not and you bump into somebody and you have words, and that could be the end of that could be the end of your life. Dude. And I think about this a lot. I'm like, do I do Do I really want my daughter daughters to not have a dad because somebody cut you off? Somebody? Yeah, it's like small things like that you should like you should, but let it go because chances of you seeing that

person again and in traffic very unlikely. But it's no really easy way to say this. Alright, So we have this segment on our show called SIMP Series. Alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, so we want you to share with us a tale of when you got played by a woman, Like what happened? Oh oh Jesus, okay, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, alright, Um, so in college I definitely got it played. So I

was dating this girl. Uh, she was from Russia. So there was like a little bit of like a language barrier, like a little bit a small one. Like she was like she had just come come from Russia but maybe a year in a year into the States, and she was a little fluid in like English, but like she was getting better and stuff, right, Like there was still

certain terms that she didn't understand and stuff. Right, So there was there's sometimes I put the fact that she played me on the language barrier, But that ship wasn't it that that did do what she was doing round you know what I mean? Like she knew what she was doing, right. So I dated her for about a year and a half and during the time I was dating her, you know, um, we will always eat lunch at the US Rush Russell House, which if you are

you are you familiar with? Yeah, So we always eat lunch there, right, And she was always very particular about a certain time that like we had to eat because she had class. Right, I'm all right, all right, so we can go there, right. So we go there and we eat, and she said, all right, I have to go. I I got to go to class. Da da dada. Right, I'm okay, Well I'm gonna finish up here. And she's like, well, how long are you gonna be How long are you gonna be here? Because don't you have to go to

your to your class? To him, like why is she suppressed about what I'm gonna do? Like she has to go to class, right. So I'm sitting there eating and I'm not thinking anything about it because I actually believe that she's in class, right, Like I believe she's like really in class. So I go to mick Master to my art class, and my art professor had to cancel class.

So I'm like, all right, I'll just go walk around campus for a little bit blay some time and tell him and tell my other class starts and I go on the horse shoe and I see this girl on a blanket on the horse shoe on top of a man kissing him. Right, So I'm like looking at the thing, I'm like, is that now, I'm like sitting on the core. I'm like no, she says she had class, that can't be her, right, So I text her right, sister her right, And then I watched her look at the phone and

she puts it up. I'm like, I'm like, okay, yeah, it really really did. Right. So at that point, you know, most guys would have went up to her confronted her then and there. Right, I was like, let me see if I asked her about it what she says, right, Because I just want to see a secul lote of me. Obviously I don't seeing a lot of me, But what is she going to actually tell me? Right? Because I was just curious of where her mindset was going to

actually be. So later on she texted me like nine something that night was like, oh my god, has been such a busy day. I'm like, okay, yeah, I bet you know what I mean. I'm like, so, how is your class? She was like it was great, Like I got so much work I have to do. Listen that I said, were you at the Horse Shoe today, like during like after you know, after we had lunch. She was like horsehoe. I said, like question Mark like questioned me,

like horseho cors Mark said yes. I'm like I'm like, yes, the horse Shoe, like the place that has grassed that you like hang out with the stuff. And she's like oh no, no, no right. So I'm like I call her, right, I call her immediately. I'm like, she's like, what's wrong?

I said, Natalie, listen. I was like, I saw you at the Horse Shoe on a Blake card with another dude and she's like no, no, no, no, no no. I'm like, no, that was you, And I like I felt so play because it's like she met all of my roommates, my friends, and it's like I gotta tell my friends, like bro. Girl was like yeah. I was like whoa. I was like, girl was really out here like dogging me, like she really out here, like you're me wrong? You know. I glad it wasn't a white woman.

I did it, yeah, and honestly, like honestly, like luckily for me, I wasn't in love you know what I mean. I kind of was like, like, like, even though I dated her for like a year and some change, I wasn't like in in in love with her. So I was a little upset. But at the end, but at the end of the day, I was like, now I could truly live the college experience and I can. I can be I can be this college board. I want

to be exactly right, Yeah, exactly you can. You can be the guy you were trying to be in seventh grade getting in bad grades. Noies, I love it all right, Let's thank you, Calvin. I really really enjoyed you had any of my question. Stam No, I was just gonna ask them to like just leave our listeners some with some advice, especially our gentlemen. Listeners are men who want to be gentlemen. You know what advice would you want

to give them? The advice iver want to give them is to be who you are and do not feed into your like to what your friend group or what other men defined as being masculine. And it's okay for you to have feelings. It's okay for you to be who you are, and it's okay for you to like the things that you do. It doesn't make you less of a man, It doesn't make you less of a

black man, It doesn't make you any of that. And another thing I want to leave people with is if you have a dream, And I know people say this cliche thing all the time, if you have a dream, follow it, do everything you can. But I really tell people like, you really gotta if you really have a dream,

you really gotta do. You really gotta do that ship because the worst thing for me is that if I would have never went after this dream, I would still be somewhere teaching art, being probably custad by somebody's mama, watching somebody else live the life that I wanted to And that to me, like it is the most like heart wrenching thing. And I also want to tell the last thing, the last thing. If you think the price of winning is too high, just wait until you get

the bill from regret. You know what I mean, because that bill from regret will hurt you a lot more than the price that you would ever pay for winning. You got that out that book, don't be a same? Yeah? Can you tag like your social media telling? Yeah? So you can find me on Instagram I'm at Calvin Davis all one word. My blog is No Tourist Dapper dot com. The book is also called No Torst Dapper How to be a Modern Gentleman with Men of Telling Body Confidence.

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