All Cakes No Dough

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Uneventful? Listen? I am a true Gemini dog. I really be planning to do ship in my mind, and then I don't. I'll put clothes out, I'll do all the things. I look for the clothes, pull them out, all that shit, and just really be renegad all my friends. So I did that all weekend.

Yo, I listen, I do the same thing. I have this. I had this amazing social calendar for the weekend. I ain't do nonhing. I ain't do none of it. I literally didn't do any of it. I mean the weather affected. One night it was like rain and I was like, oh, I ain't going outside in the rain. And then the rest of the time I was just like, I don't think I should, you know, And I just stayed home because you know, four twenty was over the weekend. That's a big holiday for me.

I didn't even realize it was four twenty on Saturday. To my homegirls like, you ain't coming outside for a fucking what for twenty. I don't smoke like that, So no, I messed out. Did you I know you probably was at the house blazing.

I definitely was. I mean, it just felt like a regular Saturday for me, though it wasn't like anything. I just had one little joint lit it up. Turned on my favorite song by Yg Marley Lauryn Hill song praised John the Moonlight.

Weird to me?

Why?

It just it's like the same thing I was saying about Beyonce album. It's like the it's something off in the music. It just sounds I hear something extra in the music. It sounds off to me. And he does not sound like Bob Marley either. I want to add that.

Well, I don't think he's trying to sound like Barb Marley. I think he's trying to sound himself though.

Is he Jamaica? Does he have a Jamaican accent?

I think he's American. I think that's Laura Hillson. So he was raised in the stage. I'm assuming, I don't know.

It's kind of like a nigga making a Jamaican accent on the album. That's what it sounds like to me. It sounds like.

I love the.

Song and listen every time he said thank you, thanks, I hit the joint every time he said thanks.

What that's how you're showing gratitude to the universe or something hitting.

We No, I just was making it a game for four.

Stupid So that was it.

Oh, sorry, I do anything Sunday. No, all right, let's get into stupid internet leavest Oh.

I did buy a box of fucking oysters and fried shrimps. I made me some oyster Rockerfellers. I got a whole big ass commercial box of oysters in my refrigerator and I'm gonna finish up true Charlestonian. That's about it.

That sound good. Did you have sex after?

No?

No, you would be stingy with that pristics that man y'all.

Have been doing all the time. You can't get them to do what the fuck you need. You gotta ration it out.

It's a reward.

Good behavior. If you do get into the same.

They don't.

They don't they be they be forgetting Okay, who the fuck you are? Anyway? Yeah, let's get into.

So what happened. Oh, Chris Brown came out with a this song for Quavo, and I mean he he tried to eat their Quavo. He really did, tried You're getting body by singing nigga God.

They definitely e third. He went too far, did he? You can't tell people how to respond when you tit and I tached your ass.

You can't tell.

People how to respond. And you know, the one line we are referring to is when he was like when when when Offset died? Let me see me? When Takeoff died and everybody wished it was you. I mean some people may feel like that. I feel like he has something.

Everybody I was like, who the fuck are you talking about?

Now he gets that.

I didn't do that survey. No, I can't participate.

I wish no one had died, right right, But something happened with that boy's murder man. Something something happened, and we just don't fucking know. It's just one of those one of those things. So I definitely don't wish Kuaev was dead, Chris Brown quit fucking speak of us.

Everybody. Everybody wished it.

Was you, but he he could be very well talking about their peers though we don't know what's going on.

I don't believe even all the peers wish that, you know, I don't think so that was a mean line. This is rap beef. Why I gotta go there? Like with the Rick Ross, Drake and them, do you feel like anybody could potentially get hurt behind that?

I look, this beef actually made me feel like somebody could get her. And we're dealing with an R and B nigga, the rap beef like Drake and Kendrick Lamar. It's not gonna go no further than that. But you know, Chris Brown is a is a gang member, Okay. I feel like he might turn up on a nigga in real life and crash out.

Yeah me too. I know he's capable. Ever since he threw that chair through the window at Good Morning America, I was like, please don't play with this singer nigga.

Because he crazy. I don't know Mike Tyson or Bobby Brown, but yeah.

But who going off? And don't go carush. She got a restraining order gainst that man.

Right, it should have expired by now. And she I did read an article that said she had put a restraint in order on him in twenty seventeen, right around the time where I guess her and Quavo started like hanging out kicking it. So Chris Brown felt like he violated the bro the bro code.

Kokuchi. I'm gonna start calling her k got.

I swear because every bitch after her looks like her. So she's the prototype for Chris Brown. Women's tight. Yeah, poor Carucci. But hold on. You know how Asian people use toilets. Their toilet is like a porcelain hole in the floor and squatting they apparently the kuchi is different Asian COUCHI is different from anybody else's because of how they Yeah, the squadron, Oh no, man stops.

I do a lot of squad not to use the bathroom. But I'm squatting daily, baby.

And hold on to add on to the ship with Chris Brown, did you see people were coming for Joe Scott because of her Twitter because she said he was talented? Yeah, and basically saying yeahs saying exceptional people oftentimes go through exceptional things, which is, which is true, and I feel like I don't think she should still be being punished

Both victims because he got his last little hit too.

Yeah, I feel like Rihanna probably beat that nigga up first, probably a few times, probably a couple of times before he I swear like, we ain't talk about no little ass people. I remember when Chalice uh did an interview about NAS and she was saying like how volatility relationship and marriage was, and she was like, I'm a big girl. It's not like I was getting beat up. We was fighting or some ship. Okay, So yeah, I believe that it was mutual combat between Chris Brown and Rihanna, and

I don't have them no more because I used to have them. I used to have them, and I used to be fucking my nigga up a long time ago, and then he hit me back one day and I was like, you know what, I'm gonna keep my hands to myself. That's all I need.

And I've been doing it ever since. The nigga hit that re button on your.

Real about a reset, but you always talking about a reset. I knew he was reset you.

You know, he did literally save your life because the next nigga might have killed you.

Yep, he definitely put me factory reset right in the top of my.

Head this program. I mean, you guys put your hands on niggas.

So let's move on.

Let's so uh DC young five, this is same. Yeah. He was on Cam Newton's podcast Punky Friday, and he shared how he is constantly reminded of the loss of Jackie O. He says, basically, anytime he sees a BBL, he thinks about her, and he thinks about like how men, you know, need to make sure they're telling their women they love them often and how much they you know, appreciate the body everything. You know, be nicer because we do do women like to say they don't get the

Heal from all of that shit at once? Can Is that possible? Do people ever have it?

I want to say. I want to say there's a hospital in Augusta, Georgia that does offer that service where you can get a mommy making.

I mean, they already cut you exactly, so.

Just sniff that extra skin and pull it back. You gotta recover from the incision anyway. So he says, I get why women want to hands themselves. I get it. But fellas, we have to do more than just continuously. We have to do more than just continuously telling our women that they are beautiful. Uh, you have to continuously tell them that they're enough. Dc as certain don't make your woman feel like she has to do something, even if you fucking with a bitch with another chick.

Huh.

I don't know what he was talking about. I think he was talking about even if you got a side bitch, make all beautiful or something. I don't know what, but if you got a.

Side bitch, that's probably what's causing her insecurities. Also, like she's comparing herself to this other woman. So you can be telling her she's beautiful all day long, but the actions aren't adding up. Okay, So there's the other there's a bunch of things you have to do. Women have a lot of insecurities. Men have insecurities too. They may not lean into them and admit him as much as we do.

But then social media, I think, you know, outside of your partner, social media definitely affects how we view ourseling.

Yes, you're nf sharing yourself to somebody else.

Yeah, And I think it's really it really sucks for the kids growing up right now because fresh out the gate, they're already having these, you know, body image issues based on being on social media so young. We didn't have that problem growing up because we didn't have you know, all we could compare ourselves is the bitches in our neighborhood. And I don't even think we was really doing that much, you know what I mean. Maybe I think I don't think I was comparing myself as far as like cute,

And I feel like we pretty much the same complexion. I know when I got to Benedict though, because I came with a light skin homegirl and Nigga was like, damn, I ain't never seen no brown skin and light skin geechees before, like, what the fuck?

What he seeing?

I guess black eyed sketchies?

What boy?

What? So?

Yeah, you gotta you do have to do more, you know, And I think he definitely is probably still more than the loss of that woman. They have three things together, absolutely had the last staving and she got a mommy makeover and didn't recover from it ultimately.

You know, I know that that's sad and it's very scary, you know, because I said, I thought about getting me some titties because after my uh losing weight, my titties just shrunk. Yes, goodness, good grief, what is it? What is happening? So I thought about getting me a boob job, But don't do it. I'm scared.

Don't do it. Don't do it.

I'm scared to be. I only been put to sleep one time, and that was for my fiber removal, which I feel like it was a mistaken out too. So I don't know to.

Add int because I mean, I got two close friends who've had boob jobs. One of them she loves her results. The other one she had to grow into it. She cried, she was, you know, upset about it. She was very regretful after having done it, but you know they have to settle in and drop and all that city start looking natural. But when she initially got it, she was horrified. She's you know, embraced the titties now because they ain't

When you change your body. Yeah, I mean, any plastic surgery really is unnecessary because it's all about vanity.

The only necessary surgery. I think when people lose a lot, like you're really big, and they lose a lot of weight, like that.

Skin removal that skin, that's necessary. So that probably shit hurt, you know, carrying all that skin.

Pretty sure it's less than the fat they were carrying around, but.

Yeah, it was just hanging there. It's just hanging off, you know, it don't have nothing holding it hold it. But you lose all weights.

You think that you're gonna feel so good about yourself, but now like you kind of deformed.

Now you look like a melted candle, Like literally look like a meltic candle. I understand why they would want to cut.

Off absolutely I would definitely cut that ship off.

Girl. Yeah, don't get mad at me for saying that, y'all that I'm sorry because I know somebody gonna be in my ideas right now, like fuck you for saying that.

Look like how y'all was all on Charlamagne saying big back activities and now they got all the memes and it's like a real like hashtag now and people like stuffing clothes and tody fucking uh stuff and extra clothes until they closed to form a big black and form a big stomach. That this this proves to you that we could talk shit, but it's like almost like saying the word nigga. Like women, we can talk shit about each other, but y'all niggas better not do it. Mouth

We got them.

When I tell y'all, y'all knew a couple of weeks ago, I told y'all I got a tattoo, so oh, I think I mentioned this, like the tattoo would be looking.

Regular, but when you put your arm down the.

Place like letters no more. And I wanted to get some ship added over there. But I got to get my back tighter. First, y'all might see a little keyloid scar underneath this fucking tattoo for the summertime. Summer time. Fine, So moving along. Neo got no bitchous honey. Okay, we talk about nonminogamy and and oprah relationships and polygamy on this show.

He got you all got him three.

I seen him talking to the TMZ. He had two of them with him at the time. The girl on the left was looking like, if y'all want to get the fuck up my face, get these cameras from around. But y'all, y'all signing up for a shit. I am. I am one hundred percent for that shit. I'm one hundred percent for Neil finally living in his truth. My only issue with it, and the fuck that part about it is the children that you created with other women.

That because it's they're out there, clearly they're out there, but you gotta have you definitely got to have money for that. So y'all regulars, don't think.

Y'all the one you got, like I said, it's not for male sexual gratification. It's for economic buildings. So he has the means to take care of these women so that y'all love to mention what they in Africa now and then, but a lot of y'all don't have enough money to play them type of games. All right.

Would you be in a polygamous relationship?

No, because I don't have to be. I feel like I feel like that women be choosing a situation. I don't have to be in that situation because I don't have to be in a relationship. I like being in relationship, but I also know how to be by my fucking self, and I feel like it's a form of settling a little bit. Unless I eat pussy, Unless I like women too, That's the only way I would be down.

For that type of shop.

I could listen. I think I could do it, but not like that. We got separate lives and you live in Wyoming and he come to Wyoming sometime and I don't even know I'm saying this, but I don't know if I can handle that Wyoming shit.

Okay, I won't say that because see this, this this comes in when you you think about like not owning another human being. You can't really dictate what people do in life. You have to see how they show up, how they love and decide if that's some shit you want to entertain or not.

But every man that I've ever like really been with, get the fuck out of my face.

Sometimes I a relationship in a monogamous relationship where a nigga was a cheating on me. Ever, so that's the part that makes me feel like it might be some ship as long as we know everything upfront. But I still feel like I don't have to deal with that. I don't have You don't have to, Yeah, I have to.

Yeah, So I don't know. That's the only way I think it could be plausible after I've been with a nigga for so long, Like, where's your other bitch at Goldville today, got.

Can you be coordinating with the other bitch? Hey, I'm about to send that nigga to your house right now, like she are.

You free this week.

I just feel like that's the name of a bitch said, is definitely an habitual side bitch name.

You know what that nigga.

That's when they say, you'll be surprised how many women, how many women going through relationship issues with your nigga?

Right? Are you free this weekend? Because I'm about to put this nigga on the plane. I'm sick of I.

Told you a nigga trying to sign me up for some ship to live with him and a woman like nigga if you want to do, how much money do you have? First of all? And I would need my own dwelling. I'm not living in the house of two other grown ass people. That's not how the.

No, not especially in neighborhood.

Look like Wendy William's husband that had moved that girl from South Carolina, they was living, she was living down the street from them all that time. Down is crazy playing in wendy backyard.

But shit, that ain't no different. That ain't no different than what Grand granddaddy used to do back in the day, have a whole family down the street. Not my granddaddy, granddad in general. Back in the day, he would have a family here and have a family right down there. But guess what he did. He took care of all of.

Right, somebody most liking because it was still a baby somewhere, some third fourth woman he wasn't taking care of.

Or the milkman. So one of them babies wasn't his though, you know, because women.

Be why that was like, man, it's a lot of old grandma's out here who had to give a baby away? Who had to you know, somebody else in the family raised the baby because you're done cheated on your goddamn husband like that shit was definitely.

Going on, or your husband raising a baby that ain't his. But you know, he kind of know what.

They his, like I did it to her, so I might as I missed those days.

Like I was there.

I missed those days when people just gave each other grace, like I fucked up, you fucked up, we saw together. I love you, nonetheless, we fucked up.

We fucked up, right, y'all. I've been using natural deodorant and I just can't do this no more. I don't think I could do it like I'm just right now for no fucking reason. I ain't staying with my army.

Regularly ornerant with the illumin in a minute is blocking your pores, It's blocking the glands underneath your arm. That's what causes the breast cancer and shit like that. So you're still gonna sweat, but the natural de order is just to cut the smell essentially.

Yeah, I don't think I don't smell bad, but I just don't like heaving.

Well the.

Time, take that fucking roll off. This is my COCU protection. Y'all were about to get into some real juicy shit. It's kind of messy for us. I ain't gonna lie. It's kind of messy when we talk back, but I'm sure y'all gonna enjoy this. Y'all stay tuned. We'll be right back with Laila Red Cakes down.

All right, y'all, we're gonna jump right into it. Okay, so today's guests, I guess I want to preface this introduction as look, we don't want to my fucking problems. Oh man, we talked back, Okay, Apparently we're dealing with a nigga who begetting ship deleted people pages and stuff like that deleted. But listen, today's guest has had the internet on five.

For the last couple of days.

I cannot tell me how I cannot pay correct me on the smelling heaps of his name. But Kai Tonat.

Y'all, we have Kiara Rush.

Is it?

Okay? We see your real name? Yes, I find it out anyway, you know, we have Kiara Rush.

Okay aka Layla Red Cakes.

And we talked back, Hey.

Girl, okay girl, thank you for joining us. So initially, uh, one of our favorite listeners of the show, she reached out to us and said that her friend was being har rest and people were talking about you on the internet and this is a safe space for black women, you know. So I was like, no, we got to bring her on so she can tell her side of the story, so people don't just to get get to run with their own narrative about you.

Right, yeah, absolutely, And Uh, I wanted to start by listen, who is Kiara Rush? Never mind Layla Layla Red Cakes, Okay, Layla rad whatever, who is ya?

That's the real me? I mean that was before I got in the industry.

You know, just my government, basically the real meaning, without all the entertainment stuff and all the drama.

I guess right, because you're a mom, right, yeah.

That's the number one. Basically I'm a mom. Yeah.

I was like, I didn't want to bring Kiera Rush into the situation. I wanted to continue to be Laila red Cakes. Right, this is not a situation for kier Rush.

But uh, he definitely put your whole name out there, your whole real name.

And now because he did that, his fans are finding my personal embarras on the internet. They're putting my family's information. Now, they're doing all this stuff.

So it's like, but it's real.

Yes, it's a real show.

Right, it's a real shit show.

So all right, how did what happen? Like this rundown? Like really what started all of this? Like, first of all, how'd y'all meet?

We met through a mutual friend who kind of like I was fucking with the friend, and the friend like, look, my homie got a bag.

You ren be fucking with my homie.

Two fucking I'm like, shit, you ain't my nigga, don't give a fuck fucking I'm off the bag.

So I know he kind of.

Like lured the friend into kind of like the situation mm hm. And we got on the live and we you know, chopping it up or whatever, and he like, oh, you know, give me a number whatever. I'm like, okay, cool. So apparently we had to talk before. I guess two years ago he.

Said, I was I left him on red or something.

I never responded, I guess, because I mean I was in a different part of the industry.

I don't really know who he was, you know, so I looked at him as nobody.

So he's like like, you know, let's make up for it, or you know, let's make up for it or whatever.

So we linked that day and he said me like, yes, he did me an uber, Like that's I'm never capping that.

He never sent me an uber and all this, but that's not the only amount of money he sent me. So it's just so funny how you just trying to make it seem like that that was just it. You know, we had like an ongoing relationship. It wasn't just like a one time thing. We did each other multiple times. He was sending for me in a black car.

I was going to you know.

It was never just like oh, it happened last year and or it happened this year. It was a multiple time things see each other, like four or five times m and like it was of course I ain't gonna lie. I was an adult entertainer so before that's who Lailor is and that's what I wanted to get into adult entertainer and some you know, things ain't exchange and it's not.

It's not.

It's like the narrative he's trying to make it is is not fad.

You know.

It's like, I just want to really clear my name because it's like you're trying to make it seem like I'm a liar, like I'm lying on you. And really the agreement was you say you're gonna pay me the money, and that's how the contract was.

You didn't pay me the money, so there's no contract.

So it's like you, if I'm not getting money, I might well come up steel from the situation.

Anyway.

Okay, Hindy, okay, did you or did you not sign an NDA? Or are you saying he breached that any breath might have signed because he didn't come through with the rest of.

Him exactly because it was only an NDA. If I was gonna get my full amount, like it was agreed. We have the messages five before I signed in between and five after, and that was cool.

I was cool with it because how did it break them?

So if y'all were already fucking around, how all of a sudden now.

Then they got out.

We was together. Basically a picture of us got out and he didn't like it. I guess the fans was, you know, you know, they pick up stuff quick, and they floundered around and all over the place. So I of think like when we got together, it was no like like agreement that we couldn't post each other. We couldn't like talk like you know, hang out, blah blah blah. So when I posted the picture of us, it wasn't even a bad picture. It was just a picture of us killing like he tipped this.

The pictures in the band was that it was last.

Feel like we could have placed that off with the publicity, so we both entertainer, like we could have said anything you feel me, just make it like we could have did publicity for my song whatever. You know, I could have made it like that. But it's like the fact that you're trying to make it bigger than what it was, and it was last year, you're coming to me some about last year.

This year they let it go.

Now it's already out like like and then the way you come to me, you talking about something, Oh bitch, this you better do this and this, this and that and now you talking stupid. Now you got me fucked up because now I ain't doing nothing now it could just stay out there.

Mm hmmm.

So so initially when you posted a photo, it wasn't.

Never no, it was like I thought, it was you feel me like he who he is? I'm like, okay, he said fuck you, like if you.

Definitely look Hella comfortable in that picture.

If he felt like I was on board it. Do you think he would have been that comfortable with me?

Got finished breast that it's cats what I'm saying, like, come on now, if it was just only like business or just like that, you wouldn't let hi motherfucker just stay in your crib like that just overnight and multiple times you said like come on now, it ain't nothing.

So y'all didn't have like a conversation before the pictures went up, like it.

Was just like now, we didn't talk about it just since April this year when I signed the contract. We never talked about nothing until I guess when he's seen it. But he said he's been seeing it. So if you've been seeing it, why are you just not saying something now?

Right?

That don't even make sense?

Okay, So the image was out there for a while for a year, essentially right when y'all used to be fucking around last year. The fans get a hold of the image. Now he wants to flip on you, like you doing something to him. He invites you to his place, right, records you. I listened to his thing. He invites you to his place, he records you.

And that was the day I signed the NBA, so I knew he was recording me. It was never like I was trying to hide the conversation. That's why in the conversation I was so open about what I was saying because we had already tasted about it.

So why you're still talking to me about this? Like he's beating you into the conversation about it?

It was cool and that's already care because we already had a text Messa degree already what was gonna happen. So it was like, why are you still talking to me about the same stuff. But he didn't even record the whole conversation. How after he paid me the money, how he asked to fuck me right after that too, Like, so.

The five thousand initial five thousand wasn't for sex. You had already gotten money from him for other things throughout the year or whatever, y'all right, but the five thousand, the ten thousand was for signing the day.

Right, Okay, got it exactly?

Like the rest of the stuff is like like other things that went on between like and our relations part, like that's irrelevant. It's like the part that you paid me and you didn't finish faving me, and then that's what kept it quiet, you know.

So that's when the cock shot comes out with him.

Why there never was nothing to then because I even wrote with my say, okay, are you gonna get my money today?

And because I brought my friend over there with me.

When I got the money, I'll say, you're gonna have my friends side of not disclosure too.

He never responded. I gave it a few days. I said, okay, okay.

So your friend can technically legally still talk about the transaction also, right, because she didn't sign anything exactly. He was just a witness to the.

She just don't want to get any She's like, it's so massy, friend, I don't want to he done.

She just don't want to sew her face.

Mmm, damn call her.

We got third party evidence over here, all right, we got a witness tell me you're stupid.

Like, this is a lot messier than our typical uh conversation on the show. But we support black women.

So it's just like, don't try to catch me out like you got you got a whole nother phone. First of all, you you do the screen recording, it's a whole nother phone. Like you're not even showing the right phone, Like you're throwing a whole nother phone. That's why when they start calling him, he has to get off the line because it was a whole nother phone.

It's a whole lot of it.

I've seen that, so are you a lot of He's not in the fan base, so they're gonna ride with a witches car like I want my fans to ride with me. But that don't make you right or wrong just because they radically right.

Yeah, because we are, We already know people more interested in the lie than the truth. The thing is, if I were a nigga, however it happened, I would be like, yeah, I did that, I paid for that pussy.

Next like it worse.

He's making it way worse than what it is because like the way you responded.

Like sorry, yeah, I paid for that, like that's her profession exactly why.

It's like you mess with the port start and then it just don't even make sense, like how did you not expect any other type of situation that happened?

Like you're paying me to be quiet and then don't even finish paying me. Thought I was just gonna be settled with a five thousand.

No, so technically he didn't pay you for six he paid you for I mean I didn't say that. Yeah I have.

To say that allegedly, but I didn't say he didn't pay. But I'm saying the five thousand that's on the receipts is not for that, right, it's for it's for the help me.

I understand, because how do like a conversation like that like happen like a transactional It don't.

It's just really like in the like when I get books or when guys don't see me I know what it's for.

Like it don't really have to be a conversation. It's really like just give me.

What I want and you get what you want in or it be like you might I don't know. It's like you really don't talk about it. Sometimes sometimes you do. Sometimes you do when they come directly like okay, this is what I want, this I got this about. But sometimes things just happen and then they just give them money after work the menu, or they don't want to be like.

This what I'm I saying, Like how do you know what you're gonna get? Cause the nigga might be like here go forty dollars.

No say what you're about to say? This is this is the part i'd be getting on niggas, go ahead, see what I say't want to.

Feel like they being a trick, Like it's okay, Like you don't have to feel bad, like making sure you're a woman good or like she making sure you straight, Like gods feel so bad, like.

They want to be the ones.

It's nothing wrong with them.

They want to be the ones fanessing woman at the pussy and this how like men they want regular women who work nine to five to be doing some.

Whole ship for free, played with the ads and all these people, but you don't want to cut me a check, bitch back.

Allegedly allegedly.

Oh my god.

So, like, aside from uh, I've been researching you child, okay, So I really wanted to get into who you were before we got to him. But here we are anyway, right, But so you got a BBL and then you stopped doing porn? Yeah, did you gain like more esteem after you get got that BBL? Is that what it was that made you stop doing porn?

I knew I once I invested in myself, I could be bigger than what I was. So that was really this investment move in myself. And I knew I didn't want like I really got into the port industry.

For the money.

I didn't want to get big in it. So I started to get kind of bigger. And that's why I was just like, you know, fuck this ship. I want to get my body done and just be what I wanted to, really be able to do the music. And I know for music, I mean, you gotta look the part, the bitch. You gotta look the part. Like I was so big, I was fat, bitch. So I been like I mean, big Mama, big diamond cakes. But I took what I took the time to invest in myself so I could be bigger than I mean.

If I did, I wouldn't be getting hooked up with Casnat.

Him.

Okay, these niggas be easy.

Yeah, so you know they gotta make they you know, make it look like you know, this is what they be doing.

Like they all with fat holes and she you know, do right.

I know some pretty bitches. Yeah, my whole life.

With this body.

Yeah you're not fan a shut up, but I'm she's not. She's just in her brain.

I definitely got a fat bitch on the inside, all right, Oh I.

Think yeah, there the nicest people have a fat bitch on the inside.

I think.

So Okay, when when you when you signed the paperwork and it said five thousand front of five thousand later, why are you most like most women I know who are in the industry, don't never agree to money later. It's always give me everything up for it.

Don't play with me because it's like when you sign a contract, you think I'm up a gone, not fuck with the contract. You feel me, It's like you signed a whole legal contract basically, if you break the contract, everything's up.

So why would we.

Ten thousand dollars in the NDA? Was that a verbal? Let me that's where you fucked got at if you didn't have ten thousand in the NDA?

Like it wasn't even in the NDA.

Let me even s play it to your hot signed all right, okay, so over when you go over there, they got little papers, little papers that you can't just discuss like what you do in that house that day? Like it never was an NDA that I couldn't discuss what me and him had personally like it was never nothing that was written up.

It was not.

It was like a contract that they are random contract that they automatically had because he was trying to get around his team on what he was doing.

So one hundred real, I'm trying to tell you it was a fake ass contract. It wasn't even really.

I didn't show contract exactly exactly.

It was the contact he had when people come in there do the little shoulder shit, they don't talk about what happened. It wasn't a contract that said we could not talk about what happened between me and you.

This is and that It was never that That's what I'm saying it's all capt as fuck.

He's not even a real on the messages said what what we was gonna pay? That's more contracts in the damn thing we signed. And I'm the only one that side that he didn't sign ship. That's what I'm saying it was. It really was just one of those contracts for when you come in there and you see him at the amp house, you can't talk about what you filmed about. That's what that was. And that's why I didn't care about It's cool. I knew you ain't playing because I'm gonna play.

You right back. It's cool. I knew.

I was like, why why why she letting this nigga pay for pussy by weekly? Like that's really right?

Why?

I guess what I was saying, like this nigga, this bigga after paying. Okay, that makes sense. That makes sense.

Now, So you haven't got any phone calls from any attorneys, none of that ship.

That's just I'm telling y'all, that's just like showing your weed man for giving you bad drugs, Like period, What what's you gonna go to police to tell, oh, I bought bad drugs that make your dumb ass goofy too.

We know the revenge porn because you putting a picture up of him laying in the bed with it like a soft softy is kind of like revenge porn.

It was covered.

I saw that dick girl, you showed my nigga. I said, look at, look at, look at.

I don't know what you're talking about. Okay, Allegedly I saw that on Twitter. All that got out here. Allegedly I see him that same photo. So s he could just be trying to plot on me.

He put it exactly, he could. He put it on the internet, he explored himself.

I don't know somebody did it.

I don't know now, I don't know who's doing that part.

So you just reposted some ship somebody else put on, you know.

So the so the last time y'all hung out, you got your five bands, and then everything was good, and then when was he supposed to give you the next installment? Two weeks? And then it never came, and then and then reached out to him, nothing, no response, and then you didn't heart from him after.

That, no words, and that's why she's turning up on him.

And how long ago was that?

It's like three weeks ago.

Oh damn, you waste no time. I thought you was like, this was last year. I gave that niggas six months to get in give me that five thousand dollars.

I gave him a couple of days then I and then I started blasting. Now now the money I'm suposed to get. Now, I'm finish get from everywhere else.

So it's cool, it's cool, Yeah.

Take the money. I might as well get the cloud. Everybody like, oh, your cloud takes a bit, okay if I ain't getting it, Like, if it's the cloud gonna benefit my name, why not?

What the right?

I just want everybody know that when the New York niggas say on my mother, he can back still be fucking lying niggas be swearing the.

Mom time time.

Yeah, work to my mother.

Lie. Well, I hate that happened to you, because I hate when somebody tell me they're gonna do something and then don't it.

Make you feel like, damn, he just tried to play the funk out of me?

Right?

How do you feel about about because I've seen a lot of videos it's mostly guys like basically saying like, oh, she's down bad, she's a dusty, she.

Don't have ship, that's what.

But first of all, what I do, So why do you expect to be able to finesse me out of kucibody?

If if? If? First of all, Kay is like one of the top of the top niggas, right mm hmmm, soda.

Like internet, do you.

Think he would suck with a bottom of the barrel ass ditch that you feel me? You trying to be the top to fuck with the top, that's all I'm saying. You're gonna give it you a track, That's what I'm saying me. I'm not gonna fuck with a nigga that I know it's gonna take me down. I mean, when you at that statue, you better be thinking like that. I hope that's how you think.

It Like, Okay, well he probably thinking like that now that before, but now he is definitely thinking like that because.

People be dependent on your integrity. Don't depend on my integrity when you know you don't have no integrity right right.

But it's like, don't make don't make me have to be the villain like you making me be the villain. I wasn't even trying to be the villain.

It was I wasn't like I said, I was never trying to just like like just down him like okay, I never like the message, the picture never had nothing crazy saying on it like oh fuck this nigga, or it was just are just a picture and he even sits it back to me like damn, like why you put but.

It's just how to approach you did and how you talking to me.

Like no you have Because then I had to let him know, like dude, if I was trying to expose you, I would have posted this and I'll see him the picture of him naked, because I said, if I was trying to expose you, I would to post this. I wasn't trying to expose you. To the way that you're coming at me crazy is ridiculous.

He still never offered around apologize.

That's what he tries to make it right.

And that's why I was just like, okay, well shit, I'll take it there, no problem, because it really wasn't enough to be I'm like, just take me shopping. I mean, I'm really just being like a girl like okay, this tyke be shopping whatever, just you know, made me feel good.

You're going crazy for nothing, like.

Nigga, chill, just be chilled and then he acting like oh fuck me, blah blah blah shit. So I'm like, okay, well this so he's like, oh, I'm gonna do that. I don't take you shopping, but I got about four or five thousand. He's the one who initiated the money. Like I never came to him about, Like, oh, what does he not want you to talk about?

I want to know what he doesn't want you to talk about. Allegedly, Yeah, he's not.

He don't want me talking about the fucking and all the nasty shit he had me doing the hill you nasty ass to come out. You don't want that shit to come out out. I'm saving those juicy details.

I ain't gonna back.

And like come back to we talk back and tell us, tell us today the reality he don't want me to say about.

And then all the see he didn't told me about all these motherfuckers in the industry.

Now he was pillow talking right.

So that's why, because he don't want none of the ship to come out.

That's why he's got my page deleted and all that shit, because you know that shit's coming.

No, No, I know he's a younger boy like I know he's younger than you, right.

Yeah, yeah, so he guess how old are you?

Thirty?

Yeah, definitely much old. So he felt that's not a cougar.

You a puma in comparison to him being twenty two, twenty two thirty, you're a puma. Almost see your puma and what's your add kids in the mix? You definitely are puoma. Yeah, but he was that comfortable to men love the pillow talk. They actually talk more than women. So he was that comfortable and.

Then all like, Okay, I'm gonna get you'all exclusive on this part because we wouldn't been fucking wrong, that's for sure. Oh you had.

On you So if it wasn't, what if it was something crazy? Do you think we would be doing all that? No, that's what I'm saying.

Oh cause you had to make a music ondum.

Like the first couple times we did and then one time we didn't.

So what's some What's some things that makes Kiara happy outside of her kids and money ship?

I mean, I really love being an entertainer, my music, just expressing myself, being me, Like just being able to have a fan base that really fucked with me and understand like Okay, like I did do the industry ship, but I'm trying to r brand myself and do bigger things and sometimes you get a little bumps along the way, but it takes you to the top some times.

Well, this would be the perfect time to drop a new single, this track.

Yeah, come on, come on, Night Night nigga.

So in the next two weeks I'll be dropping it. It's called night Night Nigga, and.

You will use that picture of hand. I'm gonna run everything, damn right there.

I'm gonna have Yeah, I'm gonna do like a little picture of a little cartoons, don't where I have somebody in the video with dreads.

A little short.

I'm a short nigga advocate. Not too much on the short niggas.

Okay, I love all right.

So I watched you do an.

Interview on somebody show on YouTube and basically your mom found out about you being being in a profession because your cousin was about to have a fucking jerk session and didn't realize it was your ass on the turn around, could you imagine? So he send it to your mom.

He I don't know if he sits the tour, but I know he definitely the one who tore her. I don't know if he sits it though I didn't ask that part, but he definitely the one who told her like Okay, you know, and I was just telling my mom was going out out doing photo streets and shit like that, like well but the whole time, I'm really grown as fuck. But it's really like like, okay, porn is not like a number one society thing, Like right, I'm legally a porn start I could I found taxes on this pussy

Like right, were you always popping up pussy? Like you know? Me and Tom talking about this a lot. Like when I was in high school, it would be bitches who would get trains ran on them and shit like that, And I'm like, how, like what's the thought process?

Like what? But I did have a child early.

I had my daughter at fifteen, so the first time I had six cause I got pregnant, so like I was kind of I really was kind of curious about, you know, other dicks, bigger dicks that his ship was little.

He was like, who's next?

Go?

Right?

Right?

I was kind of curious, but like I kind of was scared too because I had a child, you know, y'all.

I was trying to stay away from it too.

So that's how I kind of end up liking girls in that process, trying to stay away from that ship. And then I kind of came back to it when I had my son, and I had him with one of my tricks unexpected.

Right, So then it's like, you know, not horsing horse, y'all. Ever read that book Horsing by Donald Going's horn son?

Yeah? Yeah, So like how did you, like, how did you embark upon the horn industry? Like, because I mean it's not like you somebody walk up to you and just be like, oh come you know, no, no, no.

They used to have this thing called sexy jobs dot Com.

It's like a craigslist for porn stars and you just going there and you apply it and like or you put your profile up and managers hit you up and different productions hit you up. So this manager had hit me up, and you know, he had took me to what it was in Wisconsin, wis conson. I faked audition, and I can pick audition basically, you know it's fake. But did that and then he started like getting me booked out at different places and stuff, and he just started to make me feel like he was a pip.

Yeah, just missed my level.

And I would never understand why women need management.

For the old girl you.

Don't like, you don't realize that he actually do it. He'd be like, oh shit, I'm clipping. So then I I got on tour with Pinky, and once I got on to a with Pinky, like they kind of make.

My career start going high high. I was the only rookie on tour word.

So it's just I started to get it bigger than I wanted to up in the industry.

And I'm like, okay, let me stop for a second.

Letbe I got all this money, let me just get my body done, rebrand myself and do my music because that's what I really want to be known for.

It.

I'm just gonna take my fan base from over here and take it over there.

No man, so how long were you in the industry.

While I was better than yourself?

I was in industry for three years and I've been retired for four years, so I've been out longer now.

M Yeah. So now, so now your appointments only huh?

Are your appointments only? Now? Is that how this works?

Now? I mean, if they're bad big enough, you got a man? You in a relationship? Huh?

Are you in a relationship? You got a man?

Yeah, I've been in a relationship.

For a year. So how does your man feel about this whole uh debacle?

Well, like when all this stuff was going on, like we was on a break so like all like it's like I kind of kept finding myself fucking back on Ki every time we was going to break, going back and for like okay we're gonna break, well let me go fuck back o cart here. But that's kind of like how it was.

So but let me ask you this, did you like her? Did you like him?

Like the b and energy was great.

That's why I didn't know like how it had all turned to this like it was good energy, good vibes, Like it wasn't like I was trying to be his woman though, Like it was, but it's like, okay, we can have we can it, we could do visit, it could work. You feel me like it's a good music relationship, so why not? And you can get a little person

So let me ask you this with that is this? How can I put this question? So, will you like deal with a guy who you don't like if they got enough money or you gotta like them all?

Like, eventually you gotta like him because when you when you start okay, so like when you're.

Dealing with and you try to fall in love with a trick.

It don't work out because you're gonna always think that they are trick. So when they stopped doing trick activity because y'all in the relationship, it's gonna be a problem because then you're gonna be thinking like, okay, you was just spending.

All this money on me whoo whoo.

But now that I'm your girl, it's shanging or your movement sage, and you're not treating me how you would treat me if he was my trick, because it would just always be like transactional. So it always just become a problem when you get when you fall in love with the finest, you can't fall in love with the finest if it's you gotta keep her separated. You gotta

It was never like transactional with me and him.

It was like him looking out for me, were looking at for each like if that's how it was until the contract came into play.

So so yeah, I did.

Allow myself, like I said, to like come a little bit and shit because it wasn't just strictly just business.

You know, right, But yeah, see.

That's what this is the divide for me. So how do you determine determine like who's a trick and who's somebody you like, and like how do.

How you meet him?

How to how they approached the city, how I approach you, Like if a nigga approached me and he's strictly about fucking, I'm gonna treat you like a trick. And now if you come to me and you you really interested in me, you don't even care about the pussy part, But you know, that's that's gonna make me want to fuck with you. That's gonna make me want to see what you about because you're not thirsty like these other yah you know.

You hit me late night like, yeah, you are pretty? Like what else? Because I mean, other than that, what else could you be?

Right? I tell young girls all the time, if you out with a nigga and they start talking about pussy, automatically start talking about money. Now we all uncomfortably. At this point, they're gonna both be uncomfortable because why are you just assumer how exactly? Because I'll pay for this.

Food, I'm just gonna leave. You're still gonna pay for the food.

Hey, okay, ain't ain't no wrong with me.

Let me go to I'm gonna go to the bathroom real quick, baby, I'll be right back the table.

Pocket book out, Yeah, never come back.

All these people that are like talking ship about you and got all these negative negative things to say about you based on what cos to not have said, What do you have to say to them?

I love it.

I love it.

No publicity is bad publicity, remember that. Guess what You're gonna keep my name circulate. You're gonna keep me going. Like all my shit has went up one hundred percent. Even if you just going on my shit to hate, you still count too, motherfucker. Like all my money is going up. My fitdard went up one hundred times up than it was before.

Like I'm getting books after book.

Is you got only fans?

No, I don't.

That's I don't even know to put the only fans up.

I got just for fans because only fans deleted me years ago because they was mad at me because I was taking cash that payments kind of cut them out. But AnyWho period, Yeah right, how you gonna third third party tax my fee?

Yeah? So yeah, but I got just for fans now. But he even tries to get that ticket down.

They wrote me he got my accounts to spit or whatever, because he was trying to say I was trying to sell a video of me and him over there or whatever.

So but I'll be back up on the thirtieth.

It's cool, like everything he trying to do, like I could come back from like you're not doing nothing that's gonna really hurt me, Like because guess what, really, all this shit is internet shit. Once I log off, my life goes back to real life. Everything is not Internet alone. Nobody's like coming up to me like, oh, you're the one that exposed cats and that even though they might want I mean people might notice me might not, but real life sets scene once I get off the phone, like.

Like this is not my life. This is not all my life.

Like I can live outside of social media, right, So it's really like fuck them, come on, keeop coming.

So how did he get your Instagram taken down? Because our people tried to send us your Instagram page but it was down. So then did you post some image on the Instagram? But why would they take your shit down? He just got that much pulled.

Look, Okay, so he has fans that troll and troll and troll and troll. They wrote me an email and told me this is such and such and such. I'm the one that got your account, took it. So I went to do Instagram, clicked and he got like a telegram link in his video.

I clicked it.

They got a whole conversation on how they kept reporting my ship. They took my count down for impersonating myself. That's why I'm always get my ship back because my ship is verified, like I'm me who I am. So it's like, yeah, y'all gonna get it took, but guess what they send me to late twenty four hours I get it back. So I got it back yesterday and they took it again. So all they just it's just gonna be a.

Keep going back on and keep keeping kill.

For a minute because I don't even got to be on Instagram and I steel busting. I'm gonna let this shill for a little second. But it's like it's the trolls. It's the trolls. Like when you got fan like you gotta say, he's a nerd ass nigga, like he got all these gamers and all this shit. They that's all they doing. All they isntrolling and all shit like that. You feel me, so hacking and all that. So it's cool, but I ain't. You ain't backing me into no corner. I ain't stopping.

I think it would have been easier for him to just have paid the five thousand dollars at this point, you know, but he had excuses why he couldn't pay right.

Oh, she call him back.

His best friend.

Hey friend, I'm on this podcast. You they can hear you right now. We talk about you.

Are you? Information is not disclosed, Okay.

I just want you to confir that he was with me the night that I got the money at costs in that house, was right, And you.

Ain't signed no paperwork? Oh no, no, exactly and how much and how much? Exactly? Tell you how it is.

Come on, friend, go ahead outside.

He walked straight enough around setting them with the room, slams up, throw, bat them up, boom means a little transaction. And he took you in the room exactly. Indeed, that's when we that's when he recorded me. And shit, I've seen him in his phone. I've seen him doing something you not even doing for shick slick and move fucker.

Yeah, you know what it is, and that is what it is.

You know what I'm saying but but he did not.

Have you signed anything either, right, No, I ain't saying make it exactly. We add an house now. He said he have everybody who come in that how fast something.

So he's like, yeah, I guess the only thing he could probably fuck with you on now is the second image that went up.

That's yeah, and legend, which is cool.

But that's cool because I'm again for defamation the character character because my shit out there. So let's go now, let's do it. Guess what, bitch, I'm coming to. You think I'm not sewing you too, Bitch, I'm coming to I just I got to broadcast my ship. But now you know I'm sewing your bit there too. Defamation the character. It's cool.

Well, I hope that y'all can find a way to like because y'all was cool, Like.

I guess it ain't there no, most Yeah, yeah, he's he really was crashing out that nigga slam his little gaming chair into the wall. He was talking to them fans. O can't he have about eighty thousand people on that ship.

To them all?

And Cambra Yeah, when we saw her, we was like, I just don't believe she's lying.

Well, why why why.

Like, You're not the only celebrity I fucked with, Like yeah, Like it's plenty of celebrities out there fuck with and still be fucking and don't be it. Don't be that situation. I never had this fucking issue. I've been in the industry so long, I never had this issue.

So do you One time?

One time, I did expose Zach Brown for the Washington Redskins about five or six years.

Ago, because he did the same goofy shit, the same shit, shang up.

If y'all leading with money, give them money, like stop stop leading with money and then not wanting to pay up, wanting to you.

The only difference with me is Zach it was in the contract about the money.

So did you ever end up getting your money?

No, I did it, but his ass definitely got dropped from the team. He was playing, the Washingtons. He don't play with them no more. And the team manager who set it up, they fired his ass too, Jay Sparks.

So I mean it was cool.

I didn't give my money, but I definitely got to put Busy off of it, and I got a lot of book ins and shit. So it's all the same shit, Like it's all I make the money back.

It's cool.

Like, so you're not afraid that because I mean, you got a boyfriend, you are in a relationship with somebody, but you do your thing whatever. You're not afraid anybody. Other people won't be want to fuck with you thinking that you won't keep their ammininity going forward or you.

Yeah, that's why I've been walking cautiously at this point, honestly, And really I wasn't even moving too too much like that anyway. I really only be fucking kind of with celebrity. I don't really fuck with regular niggas, Like that's not my thing because like you said, they gonna try to probably do the same t shit. So I really don't fuck with a lot of regular niggas like that. Majority of them be celebrities or like in the industry, and they know, like, Okay.

No, I'm saying, are you afraid that the celebrities might not want to fuck with you?

No more?

They think you They lined up in my inbox, they finded me emails, TikTok, definitely Twitter. They definitely ow me that. Oh please, I won't expose you. Look, I mean, I won't pay you, so you'll have exposed it.

Yeah, cool, memory.

They need to cut it out.

Stop acting like met First of all, the fact that I was fucking with him. Niggas like, oh damn, I want to fuck with her too. This nigga was fucking with her, Let me fuck with her.

Y'all got niggas like some type of home onion rockism that goes on because you know, you see this in the industry a lot, like men want to fuck with the same woman just because of the man that they fucked with, Like do you want to fuck that nigga vicuriously through this bitch?

Is that I don't even think it's want of I think it's that it's an ego thing and I want to be like, yeah, I had that bitch too, kind of thing yea, And.

Yeah, probably both of them.

But these niggas gay out here too, No, no, no, I'm not calling them gay, So y'all gotta go gay. But it's like it's like a it's a little low, low cold thing that some men have. I feel like they be on some they may not have actually engaged with another man, but it's some homo eroticism like going on, like I wonder, I wonder, yes, it might be a subconscious thing. It may not even be consciously like I want to fuck with this bitch because she fucked with that nigga.

It's an ego thing, I think it may not admit it though, just an ego thing.

Never going to meet it, right.

So look, when we come back off this commercial, we want to get a dumb bitch story from you. We have a segment on our show was Dumb Bitch Stories, SIMP series for the guys. Tell us the time you got played by whoever child in our relationship. So we'll be right back, y'all. Dumb bitch stories.

So dull because we've all been a dumb bitch at least once or twice.

So let us know your dumbitch story because we all got twenty of them. I got twenty of them.

Well, I used to be in this relationship when I was about nineteen twenty with this guy and he wanted to have a baby so bad. I wasn't ready for that, and we used to always be fighting and just be arguing, and he ended up having a baby on me and I took him back.

He had another baby on me with the same bitch.

Took him back, had another baby on with the same bit kids, three kids by the same bitch, and after that, I couldn't take it no more. I don't even know why I faced so fucking law dumb bitch, because what the fuck this nigga had three babies on you and your dumb ass and say with this lame ass nigga ain't got shit you taking care of the babies like you.

I'm tripping. I was tripping for what dump you was? What?

Yeah, that mama was him. He was living with you but having babies with her.

We was living together together, but I was faying majority of the bill because he wasn't working like how he needed to be.

He's working at Dick.

Yeah, he's working at Dick. And I was falling for it for sure, dumb by not no more that Dick don't work me. I'all worked the Dick period. It maybe learn for sure.

No, well, luckily you learned earlier on, because it's a lot of you know, it's worse being a dumb bitch in the thirties and forties than early twenties, Like.

I couldn't imagine doing that right now. Boy mentally probably flashed out for real. Oh my god, I'm sorry. No, you're not.

Sorry.

Sorry, we all recovered. We all recover periodmen.

Tell everybody where they can find you, where they can find your music, all your things, plug it.

Well, make sure y'all find me everywhere. Leyla Red Cakes, so Kiera Rush as everybody say. Now, I'll be back on Instagram real soon. Lylo Red Cakes three ess TikTok Lala Red Cakes, Twitter, Layla red One, YouTube, Lyla Red Cakes, Apple Music. It tells everything, Leyla Red Cakes.

Just google me, bitch y're fast?

Oh hold on, hold on, since you as soon as you said google me, I'm like you gonna say that cat, he's that nigga boy all your domeins allegedly right.

He's he bought First of all, he bought ker Rush dot com. Who the fuck is going to be looking up?

Asked somebody do that to me before he actually did it, tell a lot of people.

And guess what?

And then he looked up and then he put in Leyla redks dot com, which maybe I might have had used, But at the end of the day, what was I gonna put on the site?

Everything is all my ship.

I used to start party set so I would never have to use like okay, Leyli red k dot com.

I don't care.

You're not trying to have your own domain anyway.

Right, and then when people look me up, they're not putting dot com. So when you just google leylan red Cakes, none of that shit comes up anyway. It's only when you put Leylan Redkke dot com.

Well, it's to have so you can have Internet estate, like an internet of real estate essentially, So you do want to own your domains, your it's your intellectual property.

It's cool, but.

Fly anyway, So it'll probably hire next year and then you can get I.

Could get one of him with his full name and his middle name in there, but what what purpose is that? What am I gonna put on there? His big pictures? Like, well, it's like this is no point, Like you you made all that to because you knew you had to do that.

Now train mark your name, that's different.

My name is our trademark, so he calls that's why, right, See, that's.

Why I don't care about Well, you might be able to sue him for that ship because that is the.

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