Hello Food Fam . This is The Walk and Talk Podcast and I am your host , carl Fiedini . Today we are podcasting onsite at Ibis Images Studios , where food photography comes alive . Get with John Hernandez . Check him out at IbisImagescom . Chef Jeffrey Schlissel , how the hell are you my man ?
A little tired today , but I'm fabulous , oh man especially after that espresso John gave me .
I know it's great , it's great . So we're talking brisket today right . Yeah , and some chicken and some alote .
Right , yeah , we had a little function over at Cahaba Club . It was helping Marvin out . Yeah , you had the Columbia Restaurant Group folks , those dudes and those ladies over there , wow , they do a great job . They're fantastic people , yes , and the hospitality they were so just thankful for getting fed today .
So you know , you know , appreciative is , i guess , the word we really want to use .
I think that they are a terrific group . Casey he's . He was great to work with . I don't know if Chef Jerry was there . He's another good guy .
I was introduced to some corporate chef there , so a good most of the sous chefs were there this time around , but I was introduced to a corporate chef . They had a grand old time out there . They really did .
Marvin did a phenomenal job showing them the ag B&B that he's got there And he was talking about a little bit of you know what he's going to be doing in the back part of the portion of the property with the Airbnb . They love the cows next door So that was pretty cool to have the cows walk over to the fence or the bulls walk over .
So that was cool for some of them because they never saw that before .
So you and so we got you a gig to to cook over there for the group right .
At first they were like when either it was you or Marvin were like , yeah , they're the Colombian . So I thought like Colombian meaning from the country . I didn't hear Colombia .
Right , so I'm like oh yeah , we'll just do some .
Like you know Latin , you know cuisine , this is easy for me . And then it's like no , no , it's the Colombia group . And I'm like , Oh , this should be fun , because me , being from the East Coast , you know , you and I and actually John Hernandez all of us being from the East Coast we don't have salami on Cubans . Yeah , that's your story .
So I didn't want to do anything like that And I made a joke about it , like listen , i'm going from the East , this is the West . I didn't want to have the Crips and Bloods get into it , so I just did Floridine barbecue .
Yeah , that's what we kind of . Yeah , we don't get biggie over here .
No , no , not at Marvin's Farm , no way , yeah . So we just did a . We did a really cool rendition of the brisket we did in the orange classical fashion . Hit it with a lot of bourbon . We did a barbecue beans that had the bourbon there as well , a little bit of molasses and brown sugar .
What else was in ?
the beans . So the beans have like four different or five different ones . I do pink Dominican beans , the butter beans , pinto beans , red kidney beans and then some baked beans in there as well , but I drain out all the Le Corre that's in the beans , so that's kind of neutral flavor profile at that point .
And then I add in all the stuff that goes in as far as the original , the OG rub that John got a little bit of . So that goes in there with the barbecue sauce , and then you just heat it and let it go . Yeah , and then we did chicken . The chicken I did , i did in agave and tequila . So , but I used two different types of tequila .
I used an Anyeho tequila . And then I used a Moscow And the Moscow um . I marinated Mandarin oranges for about three or four days And then we did roasted or grilled corn And that was the alote .
He used some um coletija cheese and some cucumbers and sliced those up And then we did a rendition and the guys from um Yuleli , they were just freaking out over the watermelon feta , cucumber kimchi that I did . That I actually compressed with the Anyeho tequila So it had that flavor profile in there . They were just like this is never even thought of .
Feta and watermelon matched that well And it's really cool when you have somebody that's in the business that validates some of your flavor profiles .
It's really cool that way , especially from an outfit like that .
Yeah , i mean these , these guys and the gals over Columbia group . They're doing some fantastic stuff over there .
Yeah , um , yeah , i mean , the original one has been around for a hundred years . Yeah , yeah .
I was . I met the guy on , ironically enough . I'm like how many ? I was just talking like how many different restaurants , because I know there's one in St Augustine . He's like , oh , that's my store . I'm like you came over from St Augustine . He's like , yeah , we drove over and just to see the farm .
And I think the building that it's in too is , you know , a couple hundred years old or something .
The one here or the one over in , in , in .
St August .
Oh yeah That , that one's like one on the runner right on the main strip , If I'm not mistaken . Yeah , But it just . It's really cool because not only the validation , but for chefs to see , like I mean , Marvin has right outside his farm where he's you know , that's his home He has those Barbados apples that are like the cotton candy .
Yeah , Man , they just freaked out over those . Every single one of the cooks and the chefs walked over .
They were they were , uh , they were on the tree .
Yeah , so they were . They were popping , i mean the pinks and reds , and some of them were green , that were just coming in .
You know , i , um , we were just talking about the farm and Marvin and , uh , what we might do , right , you know so . Uh , you know there's a we've got a lot of chefs that are part of the walk and talk alumni , right , chef alumni that have been on the program .
Or , you know , we're culinary partners , whatnot , and , um , i want to get , i want to bring them all together and throw a bash and throw a bad ass party , um , you know , like a food food industry party , but I want to have all our chefs over there .
Yeah , It'd be cool if we could do it like towards , you know , August , September , October , because that's when the season starts to go . So it's almost like kick off the season bash kind of thing .
for before it gets busy . Yeah , exactly , of course . Um , maybe a Sunday or a Monday or something like that .
Yeah , Definitely , And have some of the vendors and do it like potluck .
But would be really cool if to throw it in there for everyone that's local , uh , to Keystone , because that's where Cahaba Club is , If they're local in an hour driving distance and they are hearing this and they want to meet some of the alumni and and taste some of the phenomenal food and and introduce yourself , you know , to the , to us , And so we can get
some feedback on how we're doing And what a great opportunity for people to come out to the farm and actually have some fun and and then have some really cool food . Yeah .
Well , yeah , and you know what , it's probably a good idea We kind of hinted at it in our conversation , but you know , might be a good idea to , um , you know , to have some of the you know walk and talk vendors come out to you know , peninsula food and , um , you know , i don't know Malina , the whole crew , eight , one , three Tequila , like just have
everybody come out , maybe put up a booth or at least use the product and uh and everything we're doing .
Right And showcase , showcase . And also , if there's a chef out there or um people in the industry that want to get to know how to get on the show , or actually look at some of the vendors we have , this is a perfect opportunity for them to come out too as well .
Yeah , true story . Um , i mean , it's definitely something that we could . um , we need to put this together , man , we have some time , but you know , as you know , time is uh , you know , runs through the hour , the most expensive thing we have , indeed it is . It's very expensive .
So is my wife , but you know , that's another story for another time , right , that's not for today . You know what I'm saying So but , yeah , man , I mean , I was really excited about that brisket . You were talking about .
Yeah , it just you know when you do something and you have some fun with some flavors , it's just amazing when you do .
How long does it take you to do your brisket ? 10 to 14 hours .
Yeah , and it depends on the brisket , because sometimes you can go 14 hours and that brisket is not done .
But I am going to procure a Creekstone Farm brisket for us to play with . Okay .
Yes , I can see where this is going .
Oh , yeah , Yeah . No , baby , I want you to do something stupid with it . I want it to be amazing Like the best thing you've ever made in your you know culinary career Challenge . Accepted Per se .
I can't say I've never accepted . Okay , i can think of a couple of different things . We got to have the baked beans , whatever we're going to do Those beans ? sounded right . That is a barn on I didn't you know . I went in there thinking there's no way the group's going to want to eat beans . They see beans every single day , bubba , bubba .
Oh my God , they love those beans . So I'm like happily tickled in pink because , again , when you have butter beans mixed in with some of the other smaller beans , just the mouth feel , the texture is so different . But the ingredients you throw on the spice because I called them Diablo and they're Diablo because there's a habanero pepper in there .
Nice . Do you know what they did once ? So this is a . This is probably 15 years ago . There was a Cisco show up in where was that ? North Carolina ? Up somewhere in one of the North Carolina spots there , and I went there representing a cafe , don Pablo .
This is a coffee company , so I'm up there and it was right around the time of whatever the World Cup was for that year . I don't recall exactly the date , but Argentina I think it was was in there And one of our buyers was from Argentina , you know a coffee bar , so they were handing out jerseys of all the teams And I was like oh man , look at that .
So to get one , you had to eat a habanero . I should have just went to the store and bought one , but I decided , no , i'm going to do this . What the hell ?
It's a stupid pepper you know , Tough guy you know .
So I threw this pepper in my mouth and immediately swallowed it And I was like this is nothing Until tomorrow . No , until 10 seconds later , oops , yeah , no , it was . It was an overwhelming . The feeling was literally from my scalp to the end of my feet And and it was terrible It was .
It was exactly 10 minutes of torture and pain and bread and milk and none of that stuff does a thing . It was horrible . Now I will tell you this as soon as it went away , as soon as the , as soon as that , the pain and torture and , you know , crying and gnashing of the teeth , as soon as that all Gnarled up in the fetal position .
Right , i had , i had about a hand on three or four minutes of the absolute , most clarity I've ever had in my life . My vision was crystal clear and my thoughts were . So it was , it was precision , It was amazing . For a moment I said , wow , i got to do this once a week . Naturally not . I'm going to do that again . But yeah , no forget it .
But you know , at the end of the day , man , it was really an amazing feeling .
Yeah , yeah At the end , right , and there's there's funny story . when I used to work for the previous employer I had they came out with a ghost pepper cheese and then they got into partnership with a guy named Ed Tuie .
And Ed Tuie has a farm in North Carolina called Butthpucker And that's the name of the farm , his specialty and his number one customer for his farm is the DoD Department of Defense And he has weaponized peppers where he came out with the Carolina Reaper , which is about 2.2 million scolvane units . Well , pepper spray from a cop is about 2.1 million .
And one of the things he came up with this doing the farm was he was going to medical school but flunked because he was dipping into too much wacky weed .
So he kind of flunked out because he wasn't going to class , obviously , but he was hypothesizing that people , somebody in his family , developed cancer and he would hypothesized that around the equator that's the least amount of cancer . So he thought it's got to be the cap case him .
So that's why he started it And he crossed a scorpion pepper , which is Trinidad it's naturally occurring , one is about 1.2 million and 1.4 million scolvane units and crossed it with a cayenne pepper to get the 2.2 million the Carolina Reaper , but he has a pepper that's 5.5 million scolvane units and that's going to the DOD . We met him .
He's a really cool cat and you get to . You know , i love Scotch bonnets , which is about 650,000 to about 800,000 scolvane units , and I was at Publix the other day and I'm like , hey , why don't you guys get Scotch bonnets ?
I don't want any lawsuits .
Well no , because here's the thing . They got habaneros and he's like , well , you know , they tell us it's the same . I'm like go ahead and tell that to a Jamaican , because it's completely different .
Listen , habaneros are terrific and they meet the needs of both sides .
Yeah , but the Scotch bonnet has a wonderful flavor , truanness to it as well as the heat , and that's what I love about that pepper . You know I can't go anywhere . I can't use a habanero . I make a habanero sauce . That's the Jamaican sauce . It's going to be a habanero sauce . Ironically enough , everybody today was like how spicy was the beans ?
And I'm like I didn't realize you know , because most people I deal with that I don't like to go full on with the what my spice palette is . So I kind of made it like a one or two . Somebody took it . Somebody took the little magic . That's why I called it El Diablo . I left it whole so you can pierce it . Somebody first went off . It was gone .
I turned around and I'm like I have no clue where it went . So the first five people must have taken it .
Marvin has it Right . So I was on a phone call today with a chef that I haven't spoken to in a long time , who's a good friend . His name is Chef Kurt Hicken . He's from South Florida and he used to work . When I met him , this was like 2011 , 2012 , something like that . We met .
He was at American Social down there on Las Olos Yeah , hey , he's a good dude , really good guy , and we wound up having a conversation today . Haven't talked to him in years And he was telling me because he may come up here , there's some circumstances there And but he was like , hey , did you know ? it was in a car accident several years ago .
I was like , no , i want to get this guy . I want to get him on the podcast because this story is phenomenal . First of all , he's very awarded in terms of chefdom down there in South Florida , and so he had a great career . He's very talented , knows what he's doing .
A few years ago He he's changing his tire on Stay road seven and he gets plowed by a car . He's in a coma for five months . Right , went to sleep five months , had all sorts of challenges , of course , with that . You know , he's working , not on disability , none of that stuff .
I I'm so impressed by the , the , the , just that level of tenacity , like , just to like the fortitude , you do that Yeah like right , i mean . So anyway , i want to get him on a show coming up here in the next few weeks .
Whatever , he's a cool dude , so we'll see what happens there , but no look him up , though .
I will check him out .
We definitely got to get Manny on the show . Manny is the gentleman that the chef that I flew up to Detroit . Oh , yeah , Right he is right now . I want to do a big shout out to Robert and John . John and the guys over at Arrow marketing , along with Manny They're up in the Wisconsin right now . They're doing it , so they're doing it again .
So the next one is going to be over in Nashville And my buddy , art led , is going to be over there this weekend and he's gonna be throwing it down with Manny . So it should be some fun . But that , let me tell you something that cooking for 165 people Three times on Saturday , three times on Sunday It's , and then the timing that you have .
People don't realize that what we do is chefs and how much control we have to have over things . And my wife She hates how much control I have to have over certain things , especially when I'm dealing with the kitchen , but I mean we literally serve food from 545 until 2 o'clock .
You know , but this is why I think that there should be more female chefs , because they want to control everything . You know what I'm saying , like every chef does , yeah , i mean , if I , if I , just to you know , attribute this to my own life , listen , i got there's one you , you actually , you actually , john sitting here with his hand in his face .
You actually follow one of my good friends , michelle Matthews , and she's a traveling chef . She's another great person because here's another opportunity for people and I'm talking male , female who want to get into exploring what the culinary So she's cool as can be . She has you there were some stories even better .
Well , yes , You need to go back and check out , like the Facebook . There was something .
She posted something and I just all the time .
No , no , no , but it was . I saw your comment , You did yeah oh yeah , but did you see , but then there was like this whole yeah , 15 other comments fiery thread about it .
I'm like Like your comment was good . It was something to do with how to talk to something and you made a comment and I went oh , just sat back . It was literally the poop show eating popcorn .
By the way .
By the way , john was the model for the emoji Face hand of the plant hand . Well , yeah , yeah , I saw that just a second ago what we but Michelle and I were side chatting , right .
You know it's like , she's like . No , i didn't take offense to that .
I was like no reason well there was nothing to yeah , i know , but you have to like a sidebar .
You need to find out , my friend really protect me .
I'm like She . She has been through Just , and there's a lot of people out there have been through the ringer and she has and she's got a wonderful story .
You know , i check on my peeps all the time and she's one of them that Every once in a while I'll leave her alone for a while and then all of a sudden she gets popped in the in the Facebook messenger . It's like meant to help check up and Then she just hey , this is what's been going on .
But I love when she gets to back to the lady lair and she shows like the feet up on the couch .
She's like .
I'm . I'm back here , but I guess the reason why I love it so much is because there's so many different avenues , so many different Gateways for chefs to do stuff that you never even thought of . Like , i never thought I was gonna be cooking for team McLaren .
That is such a great experience Yeah , never in my entire life and I didn't realize how Many other teams do the exact same thing .
They all do it , mm-hmm , never knew it . Everybody has to have catering , right ? people need to eat .
Never thought of it , Yeah you just would have thunk it . But the imagine , you know like we were talking the last time , you have what ? three , three trucks just alone For where they fix their cars , repair the cars and everything they do and actually haul the cars . That's not even including everything else that goes along with it .
Right , like I didn't even like when they said 90 people for the crew , i'm like , i'm sorry , what ? mm-hmm and then you have 75 . I mean I know in Indy I think they were cooking for upwards of 120 people Plus the 90 , and Again it's . You're doing it out of a back of a truck , it's a quarter of the truck .
I want to go to an after party at the weather you know for the well , that's got to be sick , right ?
You know what's funny ? I didn't tell you this , but There's an F1 racer and I might his name slips my mind right now on director X LinkedIn . He heard our podcast , hit me up on LinkedIn because he was the F1 . When I showed the pictures of the McLaren rate , he jumped on the board .
So , if you're listening , thanks for joining us to Following us and listening to the podcast . Now I , he , he messaged me Oh kid , yeah , right out of the blue , that's so cool .
So it's like , oh my god , this is really cool and he's , he's like in the trying to get to the big leagues , whatever you know , like these , like I guess the What do you call it ?
in baseball , when they're not in the major league , minor league , minor league , yeah , i guess he's a minor league dude , but it was so cool to get his information like pop up on my LinkedIn account . I'm , as you're gonna go ahead and talk all up for him .
Oh sure , right . Well , that's what I was actually trying to find , michelle's thread because I wanted to see what the topic was And I don't remember what it was , but it had something to do with like a strong You know female trying to have a find a strong male or right , you know something like that , and . I don't know .
So that's , that's Ray . Ray , she hand it . So , ray , thanks for following man . And then in , elaine , who also listens to the podcast , is the one that introduced Ray to us because she saw the Pictures in the film that from from Detroit That's so freaking amazing .
Yeah , so it's really cool that the the family's growing From just not only culinary but people in different industries , because they hear us and they want to know what's going on .
Do you know that we peaked In this month , that we're at number 35 ? on Apple podcast in the food category not like overall , but still like the food category we were 75 .
Yeah 74 .
Well , it goes up and like it changes every day , right , so you know , there was a couple of days where we dropped out , but then we came back at , like you know , 185 or you know . Then I went to 77 , whatever you know , but we peaked at 35 . You know , we got to pick a little bit more .
I'm saying , well , yeah , but I'm just dude , that's such a big deal . Oh yeah , well , you are a big deal . Nobody's reaching out to me , they're all reaching out to you . And John , john got , john got a thing to do yesterday from a magazine . Amazing , that's awesome Yeah nobody cares about me , and that's fine . I want everyone else to win .
I don't give crap , you know so , but I'm available people , no kidding .
You know it'd be , you know it'd be a win-win for everybody . Huh , the kaha ba club alumni party , and that's gonna be badass .
Whatever we're gonna call it , i like what he said . What are we gonna do though ?
What ? what did he say ? He said in the heat tonight . And I was like do you remember that show in the heat tonight ? Yeah , remember that show back in the day , vaguely , hotly , heat of night , the heat of night . It was the guy who played Archie Bunker .
Oh right , yeah right , he was copper .
Yeah , yeah , yeah , my mom got , she loves that stuff every time I hear heat of the night .
There's that . What's ? who sing that song ?
Um Glenn Fry .
No , no , it was one of . the heat is on Oh it's the heat of the heat of the night . Oh , it's like not the scorpions , but something like that .
I don't know . Oh , you're gonna go back , hmm .
Why ? why can ? David Coverdale ? It was white , yeah , white snake . Yeah , david Coverdale . John with the random facts .
I love it . Remember that old game called you don't know Jack ? Yeah , john does , i don't know . It was the best because it had the most random stuff . Just like that , what you just did with John Trivial pursuit .
That was cool .
So it was a play on trivia pursuit , but it was . It was more of those things . You can know . The top it was like history or whatever .
Man , i was a kid when trivia pursuit came out . I mean , i chewed up all the pieces you know like literally .
My uncle was awesome at that game and he still is awesome . He probably watches the what's that one where I feel like an idiot . I'm Jeopardy . Jeopardy is awesome .
You want to hear something . You know it is a kind of cool thing . So I've had a box of toys for when I was a kid , like just , i've been lugging this thing around for years . You know what I mean . And the other day I was like you know , i let me see what I forgot , what's even in there . So I break it open And there's about 15 or so transformers .
I have these like they were huge . They were huge W W , f wrestlers Oh yeah , giant , heavy rubber , freaking wrestlers . So I had like Hulk Hogan , i had got the iron chic and Ric Flair .
No , was it Roddy Piper ? I don't know , i forgot There's another third one .
Whatever the hell that one . Oh it was .
Andre .
No , the one who jumps from the ropes .
They all did . No , he was the ultimate the , the , the ultimate warrior .
No , man , it was the the . He was like from Hawaii or something , the rock . No , dude , i'll remember it in a minute . No , no , and I wish you , of course , you would remember that guy . No , damn it , i'll remember in a second Anyhow , but these are things like . They've been in there for 40 years almost right .
Well , my son and daughter freaking love it , like they're playing with the like , like it's brand new And that makes me happy . It's coolest thing ever , yeah , so yeah , the transformers are in pretty good shape , surprisingly .
I wish I still had my Star Wars stuff as a kid . My dad , I had the .
Millennium Falcon . I'm so pissed , you know , because when I was a kid John can attest to this And I thought I was , i wasn't a bad kid , but you know , i wasn't a good kid either , right ?
So there was a full of poop in that , just looked that he just gave over here to my left . I used to get in trouble quite often . And I gather that .
I had every everything from Star Wars . My , my uncles used to bring me garbage bags full of everything from Star Wars , and I'm talking about the giant ship , everything . Well , one year I didn't do so good in school , like whatever that semester was , and everything got thrown out of the way . All of it , everything . And I didn't just have Star Wars .
I had , like you , remember when , oh God , what was it called ? The Medusa came out in like 1981 . The movie .
Clash of the Titans . Clash of the Titans I had all of that .
They were cast iron like , like , made like , amazing . Everything I had sets from all these different things , everything got thrown out , all of it .
So my cousin's . One of them is 10 years older than me and the other ones a couple years older than me . So I used to get the hand me downs . I got all their matchbox cars from like the 70s and 80s . Yeah , i got their wacky pack cards to . I still have the wacky pack cards , brought them out recently and showed Jillian . She's like Oh , those are cool .
Dad , i found some garbage bill kids to that I had to . I threw , i gave away all my matchbox cars , all of them . Yeah , stupid .
I gave my . I found a bunch of those two . I still have my comic books . You know I would . Yeah , i believe it or not , i still have a like a , maybe like a foot or so worth of comic books .
I only had a foot . I have to go where John sold his because I want to sell mine .
Yeah , but mine were in like terrible condition because I used to like fold them , put them in back pocket , like I was , that you know . I didn't collect them , i was , i collected them .
They're . They're all in the special plastic that doesn't , you know , have the acid on it . The paper doesn't have the acid on it . These things are like 40 ruined .
It's people like you and you that ruin , like comic books , because you're supposed to beat the crap out of your pocket and I read one and I saved the other one , so I have the number four addition to Teenage Mutant Ninja .
Turtles in men condition . The thing's worth I saw recently was like a thousand dollars , but I didn't sell it . So until I sell it , it's not worth anything . That's not like you . Well , yeah , this is true . Let's let's be honest . Yeah , that is true .
Thank God he's not a shark , because we would be there every day , You know everything I can find for these things . Right .
Yeah , thank God , we're going to email .
You know we should get a little more comments and emails when we post to like you know , if you listeners , you want to know what annoys the hell out of me .
Let me tell you , besides me , well , no you don't annoy me ever really , but I will tell you what . Well , there's a couple of things , But I mean there's very few barter tree spiders .
So we have so much activity that swirls around what we do , you know whether it's the dirty dash cocktail hour or if it's restaurant recipes with chef Jonathan or chef Matt or whoever . You know , the podcast , all this stuff Like nobody comments . Yeah , I know that was wrong with you .
There's some people that do comment I mean they're out there . Yeah , I mean , you know , but Susan , that reposts from okay and she doesn't hold on , it's not so much .
Oh yeah , I'm not talking about when . I repost right on the social media platforms . If I , if I put something out specific on like Facebook and I or ask a question or something like that , i get tons of response .
It's ? it's on the Spotify or the Apple .
Yeah , that's what I'm talking about , like on the actual platform itself . Right , you know on YouTube and you know on Spotify . I Don't understand . I don't know what I have to do , but I'm keeping my clothes on . I can tell you that , thank you .
You're not talking me . You're not talking me out of my Pajama , Yeah , yeah you know , I've had a couple farmers that ask real nice . See ask me real nice and throw some green at him .
Yeah .
I've had a couple of the farmers that have like said , hey , listen when you talk about mental health . It'd be good if you ask the question and see if they can respond . So I know that they want the act . You know people to kind of talk back . I do want to tell you it was funny .
It was me Sorry , the rock in the chair Many had called me when he landed in Wisconsin . Yeah so he's . And I took the phone calls like oh my god , what happened ? So I answered the phone . He's like hey , i got a funny story to tell you . I'm like okay , so I'm getting off to plane , i'm in the jetway and this woman is being pushed by .
She was in a wheelchair and she's being pushed up . This You know the sky jet , skyway . And she looks over at me . She says excuse me , sir , but what is the bacon caterer ? and so he turned around . he goes no , it's actually the bacon cartel . And Funny , you should ask me , because I can't make this up .
I have a Jewish friend that loves bacon and he started a company called the bacon cartel . He goes needless to say , the entire jetway was laughing , hysterical , and I went you're kidding me ? He goes no , I go . Did you tape it ? He goes no , i go . Part of wearing this merch Is you have to tape when certain things happen like that .
Yeah , you gotta capture that . I mean that was absolutely hysterical and I did it to myself too in Detroit , that in tape . And the woman looked at me and she said bacon cartel . And looked right at me And I had my picture it on and I started to walk . She goes is that your real name ? I go no , it's my company's name and it's my street .
Right now , the King pins the street name Yeah . So I say , or ham Hawk , as you called me , what was the other one you just gave me today ? I did yeah , john , he said today my new nickname is gonna be It was something that wasn't with Facebook , it was just today .
You like , we're sitting across from one another and he went and you called me the name and I said oh , that's like the ham Hawk , i have two different right and I know it's it's lambda , lambda lambda .
Oh my god . Yeah , we're talking about my my pie lamb defy days .
Yeah , my fraternity .
That's right . Well , so great , i didn't remember .
We were talking about a party a party .
Yes , yes , a party and when I wasn't invited to a party .
Well , we were talking about Bolero , mm-hmm . And if my fraternity brothers are listening , please let Carl know that you hate Bolero . And why ? lambda , lambda , lambda . I love it I gotta watch that movie again . I know revenge of the , revenge of the nerds kids Look at hub .
Yeah , if you don't know , that's if , because if you don't know , now you know and listen . At the end of the day It's . It's a wonderful insight as to how life used to be , pretty much very accurate .
You mean imagine some of the shows back in the late 70s , early 80s and they tried to put that on today . I'm for those movies possible like . Like porches .
How about porches ? great movie .
How about blazing saddles ? Yeah , but you know , you couldn't play that today . You know what I think you can .
Yeah , i would love it . I would . I'm good , i'm fine . My skin's thick .
Being from South Florida , that has to be you know saying .
You know it's funny . Here's a . Here's a funny piece of random Carl knowledge . So You know what my backgrounds ? a freaking Italian , right . So you know whatever . So I Live in New York for , you know , about five years as a kid , right , it's born in South Florida , moved to New York , came back .
Well , in the period of time I was there , i picked up a terrible , you know , accent you know you know one of these shit should have . Actually , you know , and when I , when I moved to , you know , davey , the Davey area , it really it didn't go over .
No , it wasn't a smooth , it wasn't smooth .
So they were you know , and you know , growing up there , you become friends with everybody you know , but first you got to fight . You fight people because they don't like the way you look , where you're from , your accent , none of that stuff and that was me and and you know .
But as I'm talking about like from third grade , like this stuff starts young , oh yeah . But by the time you get to high school , like you're everybody's family , you know your friends with everybody from every walk of life . You know from . You know local , you know local sort of farm boy to . You know whatever , everybody , everybody in between .
But yeah , i mean , i had a fight , i had a fight everybody , usually the good old boys from the neighborhood .
Yeah , they were like . You know you're . We don't where that accent from New York City . You know , like one of those like the pace salsa commercial .
Yeah , exactly , think about like growing up in Hollywood and then you would hear people from northern Florida And they had the twang and you're like where are you from ? They're like , oh , i'm from , you know , you know , oh , cala . And you're like Why do you , why is your accent so thick ? like you live in South Georgia .
And then I realized it's kind of like South Georgia .
Well , for people who don't know the Davey area , that was like like everybody had horses , you know , like even the McDonald's had the the what's a call there Yeah where you tie the horse up and member cow armadillo cafe with Kevin McCarthy They that that whole strip mall had the same thing .
You could wrap your horse .
Yeah , it's your post , right , John , with the what the see , i'm telling you who needs Google .
Don't know Jack you got , don't know he needs .
Google WWWJohncom . Look it up . All right , love it . Yeah , anyway , that was . It was a crazy time . That was , like you know , weird to be Weird , to be from somewhere else and live in Davey in the late 70s , early 80s .
Well , we've talked about it before . I remember going out on University Drive and Sheridan Street And it was actually just dirt road after that , mm-hmm .
Yeah , I mean where we were Sterling Road , We were like towards right before flamingo and it was basically dirt road out that way and then it all got built up . Yeah .
I mean especially in the last 15 , 20 years .
But everybody knew . when you said emerald Hills , we knew where you're from , we knew , we knew what , we know what school you went to you know , we knew your religious background , doctor and it was your parents were lawyer lawyer or stockbroker ? Yeah , true story , true story . Oh , yeah , yeah it's cool .
No offense to anybody that lived over there .
What's the offense ?
That's all great stuff . Yeah , I lived over in Hollywood Hills .
Mm-hmm .
So I live closer to I . I live closer to the Hollywood Hills high and was but I had to move and go over to South Broward .
No I went to high school and I never really wasn't South Broward man either , am I ? I'm from City . In the house , baby Yeah .
I know , i remember , when you guys went on the lockdown where you guys couldn't go out for lunch , what you guys , you were during the day . Back in the day , when I went to high school , we were open for lunch , meaning you could go to churches or nothing .
Yeah , you can leave right .
We Cooper City . They had to close it down because there was so many accidents in the kids and there was that one bad one .
We're gonna keep flipped over right now . Yes , yes , yes , yes , yes and then they stopped doing Right lunch .
I do remember that .
Yes , you're correct , yeah , but you know what You know what I do remember . This is way off the track of food , but Do you remember ? do you remember the there was a football game between Western High School and Cooper City High School , which is , of course , the rival ?
right right huge rival .
where the , the bench is cleared , and Not only were the for the teams fighting , we get by everybody the chance the coaches and the stands , everybody was yeah , that was when they called the cops in and had that huge . It was a huge thing , that was like every Friday night . No man , this was serious .
This is like , that's like that's like MacArthur playing South Broward or Hills playing South Broward .
I'm talking about coaches , everybody's got a clocked in the head with a helmet . You know , like everybody was fighting , everybody was called crew fighting exactly , but Yeah , all right , so what do we cook it next ?
I Heard brisket . Well , i mean , marvin was talking about a whole bunch of different things that he wanted to do , and so It doesn't matter to me , it's whatever we want to do , but I'm telling you for this party that we're gonna do with the alum .
You know , each chef gets a different course or different protein , and they have their way with it , and so that way , each Person that wants to taste it would be so much Do we know , god , think about the culinary talent that this show has showcased and what they can do .
I mean between Kevin all the way to the gentleman that we were at the Grand , the Windham Grand , in the clear water .
Yeah , you just published .
Yeah , yeah , his talent , just imagine that .
And Jonathan , And Alex Mm-hmm . Yeah , we're gonna have a good time . I mean , how many chefs are too many ?
Well , I had close to 30 today and they didn't spoil the stock . No , no , no . I mean to cook , though , yeah , i know , i don't know , It depends on what kind of people we're gonna get And I think if we're gonna open an invitation to people coming up .
Is this gonna be for the random foodie , or is it ? are we doing this for like a you know , appreciation day for chefs ?
I think it's appreciation for chefs , but I also think we should get some social influencers , like the Tampa Bay mom that does Oh yeah , tampa Foo mom .
Yeah , yeah , yeah .
Who's a friend of my nephew . I think she should come out . I think she would have a ball last .
Oh yeah , Yeah , now you're talking .
Now you're using your noodle . Yeah , i think if we get some of the social influencers and then they can showcase some of these talent , management might come out there . Yeah , michelin star Mike . Oh yeah , calantus , that talent alone it'd just be amazing . Yeah , but not just to have like him . Do like Michelin star , have fun .
Yeah , no , I want to have a good time .
But everyone to make craveable food , because I don't know many places where you can have that much talent in that .
I am like I am . I can't stop thinking about that sandwich from the other week . I'm not even kidding .
Well , John's still thinking about the dumplings .
Yeah , look , the dumplings was were fire , but that sandwich was something else . That was a different sandwich . That wasn't a normal good sandwich . That was something else . Man , like that needs to be in a menu . It will be . That needs to go on a menu .
Yeah , it would definitely will be . Again , like I told you , there's chicken's not sexy . No , there's nothing about a yard bird that you look at and be like , oh well , i got to have that . And fried chicken yeah , every day you can definitely find something that's really good about a fried chicken sandwich , like your love birds right Over .
That's local by you , john , but I still have to try them out , check them out .
Can you ever get in ? Every time I go there there's like your parking .
Well , i still need to get to that brisket . What is that thing with the Yeah What The brisket stop ?
Oh yeah , the brisket shop .
Yeah , the brisket shop . I got to go to see him And then John went over to Marcos's place last night . He had a great meal over at 1961 in downtown Lakeland yesterday The Cuban restaurant Yeah 1961 . Yeah , we need to get him on that . That's another one that would be great . On the show He's got such hospitality .
Did you tell him that you were part of the show or anything like that ? Yeah , we should have . Now , john doesn't do that kind of stuff . He should have . There's times I do . Well , i try not to at all .
Sometimes my daughter kind of like oh , he's the chef , i usually wait until the end of it And then I usually say it , but like Marcos caught the tattoos and asked . So I was like , yeah , so that's when I got up from the table and he was like here let me show you my test kitchen and my catering hall .
I went around I was like holy cow , this , i mean , on the outside it doesn't look anything . What it does in the inside It's really especially for downtown Lakeland . What's that one on the corner ? That's like the . it's been , it's iconic .
It's on the yeah , it sucks when you're like , oh my God , it's iconic , everyone knows it , and then you forget your name . I don't have any to talk about .
No , it's , i think . Well , when I used to work for the previous broadliner , i worked for Archie , me rest of soul used to go there all the time . He had like a seat with his name on the back of it . That's how he had been going there that long . So it's been there for years And that's usually the icon that was there .
And until Marcus got there and you know there's , there's diamonds in the rough all over the place . You just got to look for them And Anthony Bourdain says the best you know support local you know , what's what week is today ? The restaurant week , right .
It is , it is indeed .
So this is the perfect opportunity to get off your butt . stop calling Uber , save $20 on those , those fees and go give it to the restaurant , Go give it to a server .
Don't forget what we have coming up on Monday , on the 19th .
Oh , did your shirt get tracked yet ? or your jacket ? I haven't heard about it . I got my jacket coming in tomorrow .
Oh , I don't know . I didn't order one for me . Don't wait a minute . What are you talking about ?
I ordered it the same time you probably Yeah , so it should be the 16th , right ? Yeah , but I think I had a Yeah , harry , see for bar and grass , i think I didn't get any tracking information . You didn't ? I don't think so . Check your spam . It was from Jennifer , jennifer Rodriguez , i think it was Okay , just check from Jennifer , because I got it .
It should be in the morrow . Okay , the new cartel one . But then the merch from Walk and Talk is coming too .
Yeah , he did a You need to post that You gotta say it's dope , it's dope , yeah , especially with the on air on the back , like with Patrick , yeah gave you the on air . Yeah , patrick Kelly , with the on air side It matches perfect . You didn't see that I did an audible at the end .
John Yeah , John hates when I do that . It really It's cool because from the back you won't have to have the light . It's gonna be there .
It doesn't flash , it just red , but the battery is like . I'm kidding , no , but it's basically the on air sign . You know how like Under Armour has the thing right back here ? Well , back there , right on the neckline , there is the An on air . It's pretty cool , man Yeah .
You gotta post those pictures so people can see it and kind of like this is the merch and you know what I mean .
Yeah , yeah , but that's not for me to wear . This is . I got that for Jeff .
Yeah , it's Chefs . Yeah , chef , alumni and stuff like that . That's gonna be great , because that's You gotta talk to those cats . Well , victor , he listens , he vicks .
You know , I know you guys aren't cheap and stuff , but neither are we . Let's work this out .
Yeah , we will Lucien , and over there , a new chef . I mean , you guys need something done and they've been with the ACF I don't know how many years .
Yeah , we gotta work this out . And I'm not I'm not playing games here .
Oh , I know , I'm like okay , buddy , i'm dead serious too with it . Yeah , especially with the . You know I love when Victor said , oh , this is the one I made for somebody who's famous , and he had like the trim of the color and I'm like , okay , it has to be pink before I would get it , because that's the brand for me . It's pink with a pig .
And he did a mock-up almost immediately . I'm like I hate you , take my money . He's like John .
Every time I come over to John's studio I just got a Willy our production guru , Free a wibby . Yeah , we got the white claw .
Uh-huh .
One of the From the Dirty Dash series we put together for white claw . Yep , i just got the link which I'll be posting . That looks so good . Oh my God , what's that with Julio ? That's with Julio . It's the watermelon . What's ? What do they call this ? Yeah , watermelon sugar . Oh watermelon sugar from like this one .
Oh , right right , right , right , right right , Watermelon sugar .
Yeah , he had no idea what he was going to call it right . Yeah , yeah , yeah , man , that's beautiful Good pics , john . Look at that . Look at that photography . I'll post this up . Hey , john , can you get that posted on the website , man ? No , because that could be , I don't know . All right , we're working on that .
Listen . for those of you that are listening and you want to see really something that's behind the scenes , we should really take some shots and show you John's been working . It's very difficult because the scheduling and doing everything he's doing Tirelessly . Yeah , definitely tirelessly . The back part of this website is just going to be incredible .
All the alum's going to have their own pages . Well , our Most Culinary partners are going to have .
Because so what we do is we put , we'll take like our one of our series , restaurant Recipes , and we'll give that show to a chef , like Restaurant Recipes with Chef Jonathan Rodriguez , right , so he cooks all his dishes . We make that series .
He gets his own playlist , so it could be Restaurant Recipes with Jonathan Rodriguez or Restaurant Recipes with Chef Matt Brennan . There's a whole different catalog of chefs who are part of our part of our team really , and it's great for everybody . You know , i mean the property that there , whatever property that they're at , gets promoted .
The chef gets promoted , the dishes get promoted , even the cocktails from that property . Also , everything gets marketed , promoted . All the you know , all our video is broadcast quality . It's good stuff , man . Yeah , everybody gonna get out there and get on our website . We're redoing the website , but get on the current one . Dub , dub , dub .
John hates when they do that . Thewalkintalkcom .
Yeah , we still gotta get Sammy from Detroit , from Sahara , that meal . You wanna talk about ? Crabable He and he's just a great dude . The having that conversation , that's what I've been experiencing when you travel .
I mean , when you travel , it definitely marks your soul , it puts a mark on your soul And some of these people that you meet out there are just incredible what they're doing . And I was talking to Manny about it And I'm like you know what I loved about his food .
He had such a passion for his food , being Lebanese , that he didn't wanna like dilute it in any form . And he just does it because he loves it And that's what his parents cooked .
You know what ? I gotta see what month that was in . But once a year there's a big Lebanese big party out here through , you know right ? Well , joseph told me about it . I would love to , because that food to me is- . I didn't get to make this last one . I wanna say this was about four months ago .
The food is just exceptional . You feel good about yourself after eating it . It's not heavy .
And you know I feel like such a dirt bag after I eat stuff .
Sometimes When I'm alone I do damage , so bad Oh yeah , having a food addiction does the same thing to you , man . I know It's terrible .
You look for that high . You know what's things is . You know I'll call my food addiction person and my sponsor And I'll be like , hey , i got a flat iron steak , can you do it ? And we end up getting together and we eat . You know what I mean ? I'm kidding And this is made up story , but that's what would happen If I did have that .
That's what would happen . It would be like , man , i was thinking about barbecue , this or that , and he'd be like , yeah , me too , the coleslaw with the drain . You know nice . Like , all right , meet me at Flanagan's You know like all right . Forget this crap , all right . But with that said , jeffrey Schlissel , you are an advocate for all sorts of things .
How can you help people ? Where do they go For ?
everything . If you're in the industry and you have some mental health issues and you don't have money , chow is one of the resources you can go to . You get to Ben's friends , not nine to five . Food addiction , you know . Reach out to me on my social media . Handles the bacon cartel . You can go anywhere .
You can see the bacon cartel or underscore bacon cartel .
Well , the name likes a bacon cartel , though It's almost like you're the pusher Yeah , because you are Sort of You know , listen , we're also a farm out . You're like this is like the new jack city of the restaurant scene .
You know what I mean , yeah .
I'm just saying .
It was funny because I was telling the guys about the difference , the sauce and the different names that was going to come up with , like the CBD and the other slap that you know , and they were like , oh , definitely do the slap that .
And I'm like , okay , well , i'll have to get with John because he's going to have to do the graphics on the label , so that's coming next . So , yeah , john's not going to do that . He's not going to do the SHIT one , though , but No , i think so , all right , yeah , oh yeah , i like this one .
Yeah , it's cool , look . so what I want you guys to do out there I want you to go to the walkintalkcom and just keep an eye on what we're doing . We've got the podcast , the walk and talk podcast . We've got the dirty dash cocktail hour on YouTube and we've got restaurant recipes on YouTube as well , and this is all broadcast quality stuff .
It's like it's like one of those big networks but with , like your local chefs who work 80 hours a week and slumming can slum in it , but the food quality is fantastic And in some of these places , you really need to go check them out .
You know , what I love is I had a friend of mine call me that her day . That music is pretty badass . Thanks , pablo . This is what's really cool . One of my friends called me that her day and , like you know , i listened to the podcast , but I really like watching the podcast on YouTube , so that was really cool to hear . Yeah .
So thanks for the feedback . Yeah , and I appreciate that as well . I mean , you know , once we get to , once we get to a you know like we've been actually been doing here at Ibis Images Studios .
It was only four . Fifth time .
Yeah , well , you know what We just you know I want to start . when we talked about this a little bit , john we're going to bust out the cameras when we go on site to these beautiful hotels and restaurants . Well , when we're not doing that , we don't need cameras , because you know we're a couple of ugly dudes anyway .
Nothing really matters . You know what I'm saying . I'm fine with that .
All right , now here we go . I listen , jonathan , you over there And Jeffrey over here . Oh my God , i'm losing my mind , losing it , or lost it . It's gone . I don't even know where it is , oh my goodness . All right , so listen , keep a look at what's going on with with walk and talk .
We are going to put on an event and it looks like it's getting closer and closer , and pretty soon . It's just . There's no denying it , it's going to happen . Oh , it's going to happen . Yeah , and people out there reach out to us . I want a freaking email or a text or any damn thing Like message .
Carrier , pigeon , whatever .
Smoke signals . All right , appreciate you guys , we are out .