The Black Hair Experience (w/ Elizabeth Austin-Davis)

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who have yet to pave the way. It's the last day of women's history mine and I know you've probably checked out the interview, the hearing, the saga, the whole process with Honorable Katangi Brown Jackson and her confirmation of joining the highest court in the land. There was so much backlash thrown at her, yet she stood in so much grace and grit in the words of Senator Cory Booker, and I broke down in tears of just how he

edified her as a woman. I really enjoy how Corey Booker was able to see her, how she was able to reside in who she is. How was some little girl out there that's saying because she can, I can't too. And more importantly, how we're coming together to her and celebrate a woman about change, a woman who was so well decorated, a woman who has crossed through the fire and actually set fire a blaze of the trail that

she is making. Maybe remember that, maybe we also honor and respect all the things that she's been through and that she's going through using as a means of inspiration. Can you imagine or we see her so we can. So I want to thank you, Honorable Katangi Brown Jackson, for being bold, for showing us with women's history looks like thank you for being you. Maybe we all learned something about what it means to be who you truly are, to stand in your truth and to operating your truth.

Maybe all do that, get your right right with me? I get excited. How are you doing, I'm doing great? Thank you so much. It is a pleasure and absolute pleasure for one to see your face, to to have you on the Vitamin dvadan A podcast. I'm excited to be here. I'm excited to have you. And which makes me more excited is because what you and at least you are doing with the black Hair Experience. We're gonna talk about this um and I have the opportunity which

I'm so excited about. I went ahead and took a visit over at the ball on Hills mall rightf for Grinshaw, Martin, Luther, King, Bilevard. So it was great to really stuff in it. And can I just say, y'all do it to day and all day. Thank you, Thank you so much. From the moment of stepping in there and even before I even got to the exhibit, you know how you grabbed me. You grabbed me with the music. It was so nostalgic being a nineties kind of girl like was immediately taken back.

The lighting was phenomenal, the installations were phenomenal, and I understand that you guys have different exhibits or whatnot based on the location. Correct, yes, yes, And I have to say I have to give a Leisha her credit. I can't take credit for the music because since is all about the nineties and she curated that playlist. But yeah, so each city has their own, you know, different flares to it. We always try to keep some of the

same installations but make them different. And then this is our fourth location, so we've learned some things along the way. So I feel like you got to see the culmination of like a year's you know, um years of hard work, you know, coming together. So we're really happy with that

location and what it looks like. Okay, Okay, So while I was there, you know, I had to dive in because I know that this experience was not only amazing for me, but I'm like, you know, while we're bringing up this conversation talking to black black hair, I was like, well, let me go and ed and ask some of the people that were there if they could ask you to a question, what would they say. So leading into it, I had the opportunity to talk to a young woman

she goes by the name of Queen Being. Her question is what prompted you to create the black Hair Experience? What was the impetus for it? Okay, So Alicia and I have been friends for longer than I want to admit, and I am by trade a photographer and she's a

graphic designer. And we were at a conference and I was telling her like, you know, I'm entering into these weddings and I'm in these spaces where I'm the only black woman and I'm the only black person, and I'm struggling with figuring out what i want my hair to look like. And um, I was gonna do a photo project on black women and their stories with their hair, and she was like, why don't we turn that into us, you know, experiential museum. And it's just like a brilliant idea.

We came together. It took us about a year to figure out fabrication and like get all of that going, and it really manifested from that as we continued our conversation. We started our journey together in corporate America when we were intern Yeah, so we our first corporate job we were together, and then we end up being roommates. So we kind of talked about that experience that we had and transitioning from undergrad to that environment and what that

was like with our hair. So we really just kind of dove really deep and trying to say, like, there hasn't been a place to celebrate our hair. There hasn't been a place that was made for positivity with our hair. We know it's so heavy, we know it's a journey. We both have been on that, so we intentionally wanted to make it fun. We intentionally wanted to make it positive, and we really wanted to figure out a way to connect with people and for them to be able to

come in and laugh and have a good time. So that's kind of how it came about, Like kind of starting that story of going through our journey and making sure I was like, we gotta have a kitchen. I remember those Easter Sundays with my mom in the kitchen. We gotta make sure we have that and trying to make it beautiful and something that should be celebrated. So much love that happened in those you know situations. So yeah, that's kind of how it came about and like what

the thought was behind it. And it's been an amazing journey putting it together. You have me over here clapping and probably everybody once you mentioned the kitchen, because it was between well three, okay, it was between the bedroom. Immediately I heard Brandy sitting up in my room, everybody on the wall. And then and of course everything starts. I mean, especially just as a young black girl grown up, you knew you were in the hair salon. I mentioned it.

Before you get to the hair salon at six am. You're lucky if you leave out by three pm. But hold on, hold on where you got me and Elizabeth, when you got when you hit right here, right here is when I moved into that kitchen, I said it was.

It was just a black history moment in general. Like I'm surprised I hadn't seen a post that said, like like TVT and just the back of somebody's neck that just say okay, because the days of holding them ears down and squinching, and then your mom or whoever was pressing your hair had to hit it on the paper, tie a little toilet paper just to make sure it's

not too hot. Then wait a minute, if you like me, start sweating and you hit a little sizzle, and oh my gosh, I looked this because the sisterhood that you gotts share, that's what you got brought to life. And you guys both being a woman that are bringing something visually. The fact that you were able to evoke that into a conversation that everybody can relate and I think that's the type of community when I think about the black

Hair experience, because we're all just sharing our journey. Yes, yes, you mentioned that this is the fourth exhibit here in l A. Yes, tell me about the others and the process of even securing the space, because I'm sure people were thinking about like what a pop up art exhibit hair? Talk to me. Yeah. So our first location was Atlanta, Georgia. Our second look quication is in Maryland in the d n B area, um so in National Harbor, and then we have a tour of Texas that is happening, so

we just close our Dallas location is moving to Austin. UM. We like our biggest goal was to kind of take it on tour and make sure that as many places get to see it as possible. Um and not to get you heavy and be completely honest, like, securing our location has always been the hardest thing for us. You know, it didn't matter if we had a business plan, it didn't matter if we had capital. You know, we had

black in our title before was popular, you know. So it was one of those things where we honestly saw that that was an issue, but we really persevered found some great people to you know, partner with us. So it took us about a year to be able to find a location that was willing to you know, understand the concept and you know, um like allow you know us to be in the space and get a lease and all that good stuff. But yeah, it was definitely

a journey in the beginning. And I always love to be transparent about that because getting commercial leases and really um regular house you know leases are completely different in terms of the rules and things like that. But we were really happy with Atlanta. Atlanta is still open. We call it our baby. It is one of our smaller locations. It's about four thousand square feet, but it's still it's mighty, has fifteen different installations, So that's kind of where we

started and we've just been growing ever since. I love what you said that because you know, vitamin D it's a pun off my name, and vitamin D is all about shedding line because you get vitamin D for the sun. And the fact that you are transparent, the fact that you can't say and attest to the fact that it took time and how you had to push through it.

I think that makes the reality of things because in the world where everything is so instant, people think that it's easy, but you realize the things that you work hard for are worth having because now here we are talking about something that may here. I am, you know, at the exhibit talking to mothers and daughters and have it just you took me back and it felt good.

It felt really good. And so I'm just curious. Out of all the installations, what would you say the one that really, you know, touched here for you in the inside.

I mean, honestly, I have to do the kitchen, because that for me was like I just remember my mom being in the kitchen, my grandmother, my aunt, like it was like our Easter Sunday, Like I have this picture of of me, like when I was twelve and my whole family were blue for Easter and I just remember, like I was so like dumb by the time the photos came around, but it was such a beautiful, like

experience because like we color coordinated as a family. So just like so many good memories of the women in my family in that moment, like as a child may not necessarily appreciating it as an adult. Oh my gosh, Like that was so much fun. So definitely the kitchen is for me. That's the one that means the most. And just having those memory, especially with my grandmother, you know, I think that that is just time that I will

always cherish. It's the kitchen for me. So since we're talking about family mother's grandmother's daughters, I understand that you guys have a weak care workshops that you guys also um have part of the black hair experience. So tell me a little bit about that and what's that about. Yeah, absolutely, so you know, understanding that the we wanted the experience to be as positive as possible, there's still a level of responsibility. We know that we're up against a lot.

We know that young girls are still struggling when it comes to their journey with their hair. So our workshops are really geared towards sowing self love and furthering that

conversation with younger girls, middle school and high school girls. UM, we talk about you know what it's like or the experience that they have in the media, you know, just building self confidence and team building and UM we bring in you know, UM influencers and just women of color that are out here moving and shaking for them to be able to see, you know, how important it is and what they can do. UM representation matters like UH

so much. And I know that young girls even being able to see, like, you know, like this is ours, we this big facility that you're inside of, this is us. So them being able to even see that, I think it's impactful. So we do those in every single one of our locations. We have a community Engagement manager on staff full time. Her whole job is to do these workshops in each of our locations because it's important for us.

We knew that we wanted to give back to the communities that we were in and we felt that curating this program was the best way to do it. I understand you guys talk about something like a hair trauma. Is this the kinds of things that you discussed in the workshop? Yeah, So for the girls, we try to UM allow them to see it through. UM like seeing

it through more so themselves. We like the one thing that we try to do is we try to focus on reinforcing positive skills when they are in the moment of you know, feeling doubt and how do I get myself out of it? Like what are some affirmations I can say to myself to reinforce those positivities. So we try not to focus so much on the trauma because sometimes just my personal opinion, I feel like a lot

of things are focused on black trauma. So we're trying to, like with the girls, to be able to give them tools to be able to overcome that, and to be able to say, if you're having a moment, what are the steps to be able to take you back to a positive um you know, position, and then also just being able to say, like, your hair is beautiful and you'll be surprised with you know, our younger girls that that statement within itself is like oh really, that statement

just kind of itself is what needs to be reinforced. So we kind of start there, and I love that because know, oftentimes in some families the rhetoric has been like natural here is unacceptable. I was talking to a woman there and she was just saying that when she was coming up it wasn't a thing to wear natural heir, her mother did not necessarily approve. And now she was revisiting back with her daughter and one of her good girlfriends, and she said, hey, don I don't want to repeat that.

I want to create a safe space for my daughter to express herself how she wants to be. And I just said, come on a black hair experience. Yeah, absolutely absolutely, I'm so here for that. And it reminds me of this quote that this young woman once said, her name is Kiva Clark, and just an excerpt of her quote, and she talks about how you can't be what you cannot see and to have that representation people, I can't take it lightly. Um, how important it is to see

someone that looks like you because it's like you can exist. Now, we definitely have those who are trailblazers, but we are people that are led by this, and we heard if we want to talk about the Scripture without the vision of people with perish, So to create these environments that are so nurturing, I can say it's so imperative because I myself have been on a hair journey, like I don't know if I shoot, but I practically had had every hairstyle from We had the natural, we had the

creamy crag with the perm relaxer. I've had the short blonde fade. I've even went completely bald. I've had the box sprays, and now I currently have locks. But catch this, Elizabeth. You may mention about how sometimes a dialogue when it comes down to the industry entertainment as to whether or not your step forward with it. It took me so long to get my lucks because I thought it was going to hold me back. Can you believe that's something that is an expression of me. I withheld me back.

And one thing I always say, even talking about the vitamin D deva Dawn Day podcast, It's just about being a light so that you can shine. And if I come to a point that I'm trying to high behind something, I can't be truly who wanted to be absolutely absolutely And you know, our theme um is spreading the message that all black hair is beautiful, you know, and I think understanding that each person is at a different point in that journey. I have been at a point where

it's like, oh, I hate my hair. Then I've been at a point where I've loved my hair, but I want to make the choices of how I choose my hair because that's what I want to do. And we know that we're not there yet, you know, we know that there's still a lot of women that have to feel like they have to do something just to be in order to provide for their family, like that is a real reality. Or we're still seeing children not be able to cross the stage because they have box braids.

We know that's the reality. So we really want to further that message that all black hair is beautiful and that no matter where you are in the journey, if you love yourself, thenish your choice. I may have braids today, tomorrow may have a wig, tomorrow may have a fathe, I may you know, switch it back up. But it's just as long as I'm happy with me, then that's

all that matters. So that's really the broad message that we're trying to send um because we know that it's not always it's not easy, and we know a lot of our reflection of ourselves is tied to our hair. So I totally understand that and that's unfortunate, and we partner with the Crown Act and the different states that we're in further those conversations because we know that not everywhere.

You know, these things aren't easy for our community, and there's still people today that are facing that type of discrimination just to be able to work. Yeah, and if anyone's unfamiliar, the Crown ex stands for to create a

respectful and open world for natural hair. Wow, it's a beautiful thing to know when you belong or when you have a place, you know, it gives yourself permission to stand in that and the fact that you got are giving these these skills and providing these tools for young ladies because it may not it's not about the fact

that you have bad hair. It's not manageable. Let's just figure out maybe you need some moisture, just a little bit of water, let me get you that good seting called scarf, get your silk pillow, you know, those kind of things that just really helped, like aid in that. And then even farther, it's like, Okay, you had a bad day, since you're still beautiful. You know your hair may not be what it needs to be today, it's all right, we got tomorrow, we got next week. It happens,

you know. So I feel like that too, Like I feel like sometimes just as when we put this pressure on ourselves that we think that it should be a certain way, and it doesn't always have to be that way. So you know what I said, I was like, for myself, I'm learning to embrace the gray. I've been a person that's just very you know, black and white, right or wrong, left or right, And I just had to say, wait a minute, what happened to existing in the great cause?

I think in the gray is with the beauty. Lie, It's the magic, is the art, it is the love, it's the flexibility. It's the reason why our hair can define gravity. It's why it's an extension of us. It is why it is an art. It is a masterpiece on Yes, and the fact that you guys can capture that, the fact the fact that it's women's his three months and this is evoking this much excitement. Thank you, I appreciate you. Hello, it's your girl supermodel. His lyrics cross

representing all my Curry girls out there. Hey, what's up? It's to be ja and you are tuned into Vitamin D the down day. So now that we're invoking all of these conversations, I'm just wondering, like, what's next for the Black Hair Experience. Okay, there's so many things. So one of the things that's really important to us is also UM me and Alicia before we started the experience, we're entrepreneurs within ourselves, so we have a retail inside

of the experience. UM, So expanding upon the retail UM is something that's really important to us. We partner with other black owned businesses to sell their products inside of our retail. So what's really cool is like we have this uh these cards where you can learn more about the person, you know, scan their QR code, follow their business.

So UM expanding upon that UM. We feel like we understand the power of the ripples that we can create, UM in terms of the economic power inside of our community. So we're gonna be doing some really great special things there and UM we are also continue our tour of Texas or Austin location will be opening. We will be there for ninety days and then honestly, we have other markets that we're expanding into, be in Houston this year

and then UM all so New York this year. So we are really excited to you know, continue on and you know build you know, this community of women that I'm so proud of like, our team is absolutely amazing and uh yeah, so that's kind of what's next for us. Well, I must ask, you've named all these cities. I didn't hear you say anything about Detroit. I'm from Detroit. I mean, what's happening, Elizabeth, Detroit is on the list and it's gonna be I promise. Hey, you know I'm from Cleveland,

so I'm not far from you. I got family in Detroit. I love that. And when you mentioned that was something, I brought my assistant Jeremiah along with me and we were sitting there. We walked over. We saw the install unless installations, but the areas that you were showing the black businesses, and that's one thing that I appreciate seeing around every were supporting black businesses. It was it was the love for me and I saw I said, wow, this is sisterhood. This is an actual replication of what

you and Alicia are about of supporting each other. You saw something and you said, let's make it happen. Now. I did ask a question to another individual who also was wondering what's next. Her name is Litha Wells, and she asked, are you going to create an exhibit to approach the hair of black men maybe like the significance of the faith, the taper being bald braided. What's up? Oh,

you know, it's coming. So you know, the reason why we named it the Black Hair Experience is because we wanted to make sure that it was incumbass of everyone right, So we were getting our men's story right. And just know that it is coming. It's gonna be on one of our cities and it's gonna be amazing. So yes, all of all from the barbershopics experience, faith experience to um you're trying to get some ways, like it's all,

it's all gonna be there. We just want to do it right because a lot of men have adjusted their hair whether or not they're going to have the you know, even the five o'clock shoutout. Absolutely, So I mean I feel like our men have been very exported with their hair as well, Like I'm loving that they're getting the braids on top and with the half with the faith, like just experimenting and even getting color. So like we're

really excited about that. But yes, it is coming. It is in the works we are designing, and it will definitely be UM. A few installations in our next location, catch it while it's hot. So just from a historical standpoint, I'm just curious because we're talking about, you know, how our men are wearing braids and a lot of our

women are wearing braids. We understand that black hair has also like historical you know, context behind it, whether it be showing a significance of our tribes that we belonged to. Did you know, and my assistant brought this again to my attention, did you know that our braids were like the maps to escape routes when we're doing slavery? Now, is this something that you will highlight and the experience. Yeah.

So one of our biggest reasons why we have like haven't had like full on, you know, historical things inside is because we wanted to make sure we were telling the right stories and we felt that it was the most important thing to do and to do it right, to hire the right people, to make sure that it's peer reviewed, like all of that stuff takes time. So just know that, yes, all of that is something that

we are very excited about. Um, we do have an installation inside of the Bowing Hills and and our other locations that speak to different historical facts that we felt comfortable with, but we really wanted to make sure that we got it right because those things, we don't ever want to say the wrong message. And it's like one of those like we know our lane, so we needed to make sure we got somebody in the right lane.

And that is definitely something we're working on to do, to do us right, you know, because it's important to be able to have fun, but then to learn why you're having fun as well. I respect that. I love that so much and even talking about that because you know, we come from the rich history that wise, and then we can come from the art and the beauty. Wise,

it's is the encompass of everything all beautiful. But what I'm wondering as we delve into more history, how do you feel or what do you feel about gate keeping some of our terms or what things mean. Because we understand that cultural appropriation is real and it comes to the point that we shed light on different things about our community, the black community. Do you feel like different

things will be stolen? Is there a way that we need to do I want to say hord or kind of be protective on the things that we share, you know, um, I definitely. You believe that there are moments where I mean, the thing that makes me sad and why we particularly chose hair is because we know that our creativity has

not been celebrated right. So like we can go from like the beehives, um, you know, in the adoring those or the braids and adoring those, but it's seen as less than or not as pretty on us as it is on other people. So I feel like part of the reason not to minimize, because I know this is a very complex, you know um issue of why it has been or people feel that way is because when

we do it, it is seen as less than. There hasn't been anything to celebrate the terms or celebrate our creativity or there's nothing like it's not seen as positive when we do it right. So I do feel like for me that that's kind of where the first things kind of came in mind. With that, I do believe that our community should get recognition for our creativity. I do believe that this is an issue that is bigger

than just hair. When it comes to that, we know that if we do a dance and may be seen as ghetto, somebody else do it as creative like those are just that's unfortunately what it is. But um, I do think that within our community we need to like, I don't worry about what other people feel about what

we're doing. I want us to be able to have the beauty inside, right, So I want to say that are what is the hair show culture when they were doing fantasy hair, I want that to be celebrated inside of us, and I'm not looking for other people to validate that. I guess. So what I'm trying to say, it's unfortunate. We know what it what that feels like,

but I'm not I'm not I'm not worried. It's like I'm worried about what they're doing from the outside and worried about making sure that other black people know that what we're creating or what we've created is beautiful. I guess that's the way that I approach it. I know it's frustrating. I know that it's irritating. I know that it's like, you know, we've been over here doing this, So if we've been over here doing this, let's continue

to do it and do it great. So that's kind of how I think about it, because otherwise I would just spend my time being being upset about it, right, because comparison is a thief of joy, and I don't have time to look at what you're doing and what you're saying. If I'm minded what's on my plate. Yes, that's right. I try. I know it's hard, because it's hard over the magazine like, oh, you're calling it something different.

These are box breaks, you know, So I get I get the frustration, but it's one of those things where I choose to move in positivity and I tried to create spaces where we can be ourselves and not worrying about what's happening over there. And I guess that's probably not the easiest thing because I know that over there is where the majority of the capital is. Like we're still trying to get in quality and like bringing us all together, but I still believe that it's important for

us to celebrate us. I feel like inside of our community we still have issues or stigmas about even like you said, like we still have generational things that we need to fix. So I'd rather fix that so my daughter and her friends aren't worried about somebody's empty, you know, saying something crazy about their hair. Because every we've already started these conversations within our community so that when they are outside of our community that they feel more comfortable

because they know that we're getting there, you know. So that's kind of my approach to it. I know that we need people on in all different fronts. We need the clap back queen, we need we need all of it. Also, um, that's what I say about the about any movement, like we need the different pieces and this is just my piece. I love that. And when you talk about creating space, I feel like it's a moment of also saying making room.

We're making room. And one of the things that you said, well, if we enrich our young people, assume we'll be saying young boys too. But right now we're dressing young girls of knowing. That's what confidence is. Confidence is just knowing. And if I know who I am, I know the beauty that are reciting and I know the strength behind that when you put me out there, what's going to happen? It's just getting to the root of it pun intended.

You know. Let me ask you this, what kinds of conversations or what type of dialogue are you hoping that people start to engage in after having or attending the Black Hair Experience. Ah, man, I really hope people will leave feeling seen. I really, I really hope they leave feeling like, oh, this was made for or me, this was made with me, and mind like, oh my gosh, like they put this together thinking about me, And I

think that that is the most important thing. I feel like, you know, um our community and our women and our hairshes So I'm tired of us not flourishing our beautiful bright lights. And I want all of the words of affirmation that are throughout the space, Like I want every black woman to be given their flowers and all the you know, things they have to carry. And it's it's

just I really want people to be seeing. I think that's the easiest way, and just to feel loved and to feel like this is something that is more than it was about. It's more than just hair, you know, it was more than just a place to come to take pictures. And it's so much like as me being a photographer and underunderstanding the power of an image. And you said, my favorite you know Bible versus actually you

know about it. And part of the reason why I chose to be a wedding photographer on that side is because I knew the power of the image of what that would do for black love. So now taking this over here and making it creative and something fun, and all these beautiful images of all these black women just living in their glory and just being just being themselves and like all these big words behind them of black hair is beautiful, bold like that those visuals just seeping

through everywhere on the Internet. Like I couldn't ask for a better way to do that, in a better way to have that message. And someone who doesn't even know about black hair, doesn't even understand what it is to be able to see that message, to be like what is this? What is that about? And learn a little bit from it, just from a simple something that people say, like a simple Instagram photo, Like now, it's so much more than that. So that's what I hope people get

from the space and truly exemplified. You know, a picture is worth a thousand words or billion at this point, who knows no, but thank you, and I just want to assure you that that is what you're doing and it's a beautiful thing. I've been telling everybody since I when I was like, yea, this is so dope. Like, on one front for everybody that loves to take a selfie, but on another front, you know, it makes that connection.

And I'm all about reaching people where they are and then let me take you where you need to go. And then once I found out you guys had the week Care workshop, I was like strength, because there's nothing more beautiful and understanding and realizing how important it is to love yourself and where you are right now and to be in a community of people that support that. So to you and Alicia, I say thank you. Now, is there anything else that you would like to share? Um,

let us know, promote support. This is the moment. Yeah, I mean I would love for you all just to come out. You know, we are really really excited about our different locations. So if you're in the l A area, come out to the cruns Shall Mall. If you're in the d n B, we are in National Harbor, Atlanta. We are over by Emery and then Austin. You guys, we are coming and we are happy to be there. We are only there for ninety days, so make sure that while we're there that you guys get to come

see us. You literally gotta catch it while it's hot. While it's hots hot. Our d m s are going off. We closed Dallas this weekend and people are like, you're gone. I'm like, that's it, that's it, that's it, really Alarm the care Experience dot Com. Dawn Day sent you. Get get your dolls, get your doughs. Okay, now they know, Now they know we can just continue to grow right right, all right, listen, you're done, listen to my crazy solf. Thank you so much for joining us on the Vitamin

D with John Day podcast. Well, thank you for having me. You have a good one. You'd be amazing and keep doing what you're doing. Thank you. All right, Our hair is a journey, and it's a journey that we all should experience. And I'm grateful to have this kind of conversation that evokes this type of thought process to evoke change, to evoke education, but more importantly, to edify and evoke what beauty really is. Black hair is beautiful, and so

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