Prioritize Yourself (w/ Ananda Lewis)

your throat but just can't seem to find its way out. Sometimes, when we're trying to get that spirit to grow, just adding deposits to your life bank account, you realize that for whatever reason, you've got to go ahead and change it up. Maybe some cattle came out and trampled your fields, Maybe there was a drought, maybe there was a flood. Whatever it was, though, you have the option to get up and find another plot to grow on. When those times come up, it can seem like the world rending.

It feels it's worse sensation and when everything's feel as though it's going backwards. But those same moments are opportunities

to create something that is closer to your vision. Now, with that being said, I had the opportunity to sit down and talk with none other than Ananda Luis, the television host, a carpenter, former model, and social activists came on the show to talk about her life, her fight against breast cancer, and for a woman's health, about getting involved in your own health, understanding that you have a part to play in your own life, how to check

yourself before you wreck yourself, and just trusting yourself more in gentle The amount of discipline I have to have now doing the protocols, doing the treatments, committing to all the hours a day being away from my child. I could have spread that out across like ten years and done it in a more balanced, you know, a little bit out of time way. Now I have to concentrate it in you know, four or five months, and really

hit it hard. You're in for a special treat So, without further ado, it's time for your dose of vitamin D. Get your vitamin D right with me, and get excited about Hello. Good morning, good morning. How are you doing. I'm good, I'm good. Sorry for all the scramble again here. I don't know what happened with the technology. I was blaming on technology. I'm grateful that you arrived. And here's the thing. I knew that we were going to encounter

each other. I didn't know when, and I say that because Porsha Scott, she's my agent, so years ago and I remember I think she said that you were decorating or you were put the count and renovations with her, Yeah, painting and helping her with some upgreating. Just hearing her name fills my heart was joy love and it's so interesting. And then I, um, I saw your video and I saw your story and I said, oh, this is how we're going to connect. It'll be it'll be this, it'll

be this, It'll be magical. So first of all, thank you so much, thank you for you being you. Oh well, you're welcome my own. That's the thing. I could say, you're welcome for kind of what I have to do.

But I appreciate the acknowledgement. Yeah, you know, because I think sometimes we forget to do us, and sometimes doing us as being uncomfortable and and this this stage that you're you're experiencing right now and being able to come forth, it means a lot for someone like me, because as you come from someone like you is exactly why I did it. Other women who looked like me, who you know, we reflect each other in the world. I needed you to hear what I did wrong, so you could avoid

some of these mistakes. You know, the pitfalls are important to share. Hello, and it's how you put the pieces back together right, Yes, yeah, always, So I want to I want to pay a beautiful picture with you today. Um. And you know many people will know you and recognize your face, your voice, your energy, whether it's on MTV, whether we're watching teams, some just the host with them. Most that was the aspiration for every little black girl was like, oh my gosh. In the music industry, I

can do that. So cool. Um, But I came across I I've run the digital cons and for all of Steve Harvey FM loved it too. I saw your video of and you came forth to say how you've been diagnosed with stage three breast cancer, and immediately it struck a chord because my mother passed away from stage four breast cancer. Wow when this was back in but she was first she I didn't think about it. She was pretty much sick my entire life. My mother had fake

hair down her back. I remember as a kid, I was like three years old, and I remember seeing her in the mirror and cutting her hair off. I remember going to school, but my mom that strength that you exhibited in that video, and you said like, I'm doing this for my son. I'm speaking like there was not an option of not to fight. Yeah. Yeah, as long as you're live, if you're drawing breath, there's something you can do, and you better do it. Hello, you know,

I mean, listen, we know this life is temporary. I hope we all understand that. By now, I mean we that enough experience with it. We are born, and we live, and then we die. That is the nature of the human bodies that we get to inhabit. Right. I believe we are the light within the body that goes on. But I also think while we're here having this experience, we need to keep some things in perspective. We're not going to live forever no matter what we do, what

our options are. For me anyway, what what I look at as my choices and my control, my authority in my life is how I live while I'm here. Um. And even when you confront something, uh, you know that typically is scary that happens in your body, like a cancer, And I stay typically scary because I haven't really been assaulted by the fear. I understand it to be. What is normally, Um, how people are, you know, how people receive it. It wasn't my particular experience, and that probably

helped me with how I handled it. But when when that typically happens, we get thrown off, you know, we start forgetting what we know. Uh. What I have always known up until the point of diagnosis and asked it is that I don't come from here, right, and that's not to do some weird like where aliens descended on the planet. I don't believe that. But my spirit doesn't come from here. I get to go, you better say, get to leave and go somewhere else. I came from

somewhere else. This is a temporary situation and how you choose to live it is a testament of who you are and what you believe. And I don't believe in abandoning my fundamental understanding of myself, my God, my experience just because something looks scary or you know, gives me a challenge for me, that's the double down time. But did I believe this before? I better believe it even more wholehearted me. How I better go even harder on it now. And because this is the test of what

it really is, right, So I don't know. Definitely, this experience has caused me to uh amplify my understandings and get real clear on things, real fast. But it also has just fortified what I have always known to be true. You know what I knew to be true back then in those days when you watch me on TV. The reason I was able to get through some of those challenges,

it's the same thing. I know who I am, and I know what I can do, and even knowing that isn't gonna save my life forever, I get that, right, But in the context of what I'm dealing with, I absolutely know that there are things that I have control over that I can do differently. There are reasons that this happened in my body, and it's not some weird, scary mystery. It's a process, and every process can be reversed.

That's what I believe. And you know what stands out to me so much is that as you speak on that and this decree that you've made over your life, is that you've chosen to walk in your authority. You chose and you you made a choice. And I think when we're looking to spare, we looking confusion, we feel like we're lost it's because we don't have a choice, right, or we don't have enough information. Yeah, we just don't know. Fear is a lot of time based on that you

cannot see, just don't know. It's the fair of the unknown. We don't know what's gonna happen next. I knew what was gonna happen next. I had to do what I knew to do next, so there was no unknown, and I knew that if my body started this process, there's an environment in my body that I somehow contributed to. Not saying it's all my fault. But you know, when we talk about blame and fault, I think we've gotten this to this place where we don't want to be

blamed for something, right. But I look at it as well, if you blame me, that means it's my responsibility. When something is my responsibility, I control it. I like controlling things, So I think responsibility is a really powerful place to come from. And it's a good way to switch that blames thing. Right, if somebody blames you for something and you switch it to okay, let's let me play along, all right, I did do that. Now what can I do to get myself out of it? Then? You have

a place to start from instead of being stuck it. Well, they're blaming me, they're staying into my fault. Okay, what if it is? So? What what if it is? That means you can do something? And and so when I looked at it like that, when I said to myself, this happened for a reason, I might be part of that reason. I might be a huge part of that reason. When you look at how cancers or any other chronic illnesses start in the body, they start with an environment

that's been created. We're we're we're in control of these bodies. What you put in your mouth, the energy you allow yourself to be around, how you speak to people, how you allow people to speak to you, all of that matters. And so if you look at all those things as different variables creating this environment, you understand that you have some authority there. So when I walk in that authority, it's because I know it to be true. It's not a false sense of understanding or a game on playing

in my mind. I create my future with exactly how I think, what I choose to do. If I get up and work out, as opposed to getting up and having a cup of coffee. That makes a difference in my body, those little changes, right, my body can't take coffee. I wouldn't have known that until I have this experience and did all the testing that I've done. I used to drink eight cups of coffee the day just to get through the day, like most people do. That was creating an acidic condition in my body I had no

awareness of. But it doesn't matter if you know it or not. Your body's gonna do it right. Your awareness doesn't matter. Do your body. Um, So those little things have gone such a long way for me. And when I saw the difference that I could make in the environment in my body, uh, I knew I I could do something other than what they were telling me to do to start to fix this problem. Now is that

all I had to do. No, But if you don't even start there, if you don't even start with inability to do your part and a desire to do your part and understanding that you have a part to play, then you're just lost in fear and and the lack of belief in what you can do because you're not

aware of it. So awareness, to me is absolutely at the beginning of all this now and That's why I encourage women who I who I talked to, and subsequently I've met a lot of women who are also going through breast cancer fight right now, and we share information and that the first thing we talk about is what are you doing? Like, what are you taking, what are

you how are you detoxing? And in addition to what your doctors saying, which I'm all for doing what it is that's comfortable for you, of listening to your doctor and do what they say, is that that's good. So

in addition to that, what else are you doing? Because more and more, you know, best cancer centers around the country are acknowledging that when a patient fasts before chemo, or when a patient takes CBD before chemo, whatever the things that they're acknowledging are, they know that there's an

impact being had. And so even if it's a little bit of a help to me, that's help still as a build And even as you're saying that I can hear ice cube in my ear, check yourself before you wreck yourself, and that awareness is tapping in and say one, let me assess, am I feeling differently? But that whole notion of go go go, whether that coffee was so you can stay up for this thing. When did I say, wait a minute, stop, pause, yes, let me do a

simplature check. So what was what was that experience? What happened? When was your moment that you decided to pause and to literally check yourself. I think it was in the biopsy, because you know, I had been refusing the mamograms for years. Did your mother have of cancer? My mother had breast cancer thirteen about thirteen years ago, and I went through

her journey with her. She opted standard care um and did all the things they told her to do, and I looked from you know, outside, because I was in the experience with her, but I wasn't her, and so I was still looking from outside, looking at her experience and knowing I saw her do mamograms my whole life. You know, she did them for almost thirty years, just like she was told to. The radiation exposure was different with them because the machines were different. But I didn't

know that at the time. I saw her doing mamograms all this time, and I saw her still getting breast cancer, and I knew as I mean, it's pretty common knowledge that radiation and the human body is not a good A right can cause cancer. We hear the extremes of like nuclear power plant problems where people have fall up with these smaller amounts of exposures to radiation also can cause problems. I knew that, and I directly connected her diligence with her mamograms to her getting breast cancer. Now

that's not a completely incorrect line of thinking. Where I wish I had understood better. And one of the biggest reasons I wanted to share that part of my experience with with other women, um and I guess people in general because men get breast cancer too, was because my thinking was often this way, we need to do ramograms even though there is this small amount of exposure to radiation,

because the risk out or the reward outweighs the risk. Right, The risk of that little bit of radiation is nothing compared to the reward of finding out what's going on in your body so that you can be proactive, maintain more control, and not find out about something when it's further down the I know I'm lucky in the sense that I didn't wait until it was a stage four right, because that's a harder process to deal with in the body a stage three isn't great, so it's in my

limbs and that does make it more difficult. There are more things you have to do. There's a deeper dig uh. And I wish I had found it earlier. I would have if I'd been doing mamograms. And that's the part I needed women to understand. Yeah, there's a risk, but there's a way bigger reward. And it's so interesting because I had to, Um, it's a conversation that maybe isn't talked about too much. And as I was looking at your video and you said wow, I never said that

I was loud because your your emotions were enraged. And I just think of like the shame aspect because like even though I said with my mother, I still did not undersunderstand the gravity of what breast cancer was, even at three years old, even at the point when I was in eighth grade, even to the was last point when I was in school, like just when I graduated. Oh we went to Howard together as well, we're both alone.

So I had said, I know, yes, Um, So it wasn't until and I think, like you said that awareness but having that conversation, but when I hear you say that I knew the next step. I'm looking at myself and when I was twenty five, my mother had first um I think she was probably thirty, yeah, thirty five because I was a few years old when she had it, so she how many years that's from somethody pretty much my entire life, because let's see, probably from eight eight

and she passed away in twelve. She had went into a remission for a few years, and it came back in two thousand and eight, and the doctors were coming in and they're like, oh, you know, the students and so forth, because she was doing well. But it's interesting what you said, and I'm sure that this play is a part and some of the other things that you talked about, which stress would do, because once life came, she lost. I think my mother had lost her fight in a way, her sense of going and why and

how you said that fight for your son. My mother, Janice Hill did everything for her daughter. She lives for us, and I think we got to the point that she just got tired. Yeah, well that happens. But I think as beautiful is that what you said and how you're saying, how you know the next step? We'll speaking to someone like me. I didn't know what the next step was. I'm like, I'm twenty five. Do I go ahead and

get that mammogram? Because again that exposure and who do you talk to year olds now who has the insurance to say, Hey, I'm stepping into a mammogram? Yeah? Not Nie, Well what did you decide? Well, when I was in New York site, I was working at w B L S and I remember it was right before I moved out to l A, and they had a program set up and they knew that since I was high risk

since my mother had it three times. My grandmother had ovarian cancer at a cousin that had kidney cancer, so that cancer, Jean, It's surrounding um my oldest aunt breast cancer. And I found out my youngest aunt, who died months after my other, had breast cancer as well. So it was a situation where they said, hey, you need to go just get checked. And so since then, I've had a mammogram once each year. But I didn't know. I don't know if I really know how to properly do

the assessment. And so that's what I was wondering. Did you feel a pain, How did you know? That something was going on. I had. I had discharge out of my right nit bul right side is where everything's happening for me, um, and I had a not right kind of above into the right right about here on my breast. And you know what's funny is even with those symptoms, I was like, it's fine, it's left over from breastfeeding. I breast spent my son for three years. And you know,

this was the way after three years. But we tend to tell ourselves it's okay. We gotta keep going. For all those reasons that you mentioned that your mom Janice, did she put her children first? All mothers did, I know do that? And it's just an instinctive. That's what happens. When the baby comes back your body, you go and even you know when you have however, you have your baby, um, this this maternal instinct kicks in and you will give your life for this child. You will put down everything

you need to, you will do whatever. And part of where I think we need to come to some better balance as women as mothers on that is continuing to keep ourselves on that top list of priorities, because if we're not healthy and we're not okay, we can't be

here for them. So as much as my son is my motivation, my own life is my motivation too, because without me being here, I can't take care of him, and it's difficult to do because it's our instinct, you know, it's our fundamental instinct as moms to prioritize our kids. And that's not a bad thing. It only becomes a dangerous thing for ourselves when we get lost and way down at the bottom of that list. And I absolutely

did that to myself. I mean, yes, I was against mamograms, but also once I found that lump, and once I had that discharge and got serious about let me go check this out, I lost my insurance for other reasons. And so insurance becomes an issue for a lot of women, even a woman you know, like me, who from the outside you would think I got what stuff altogether and at least I have my insurance covered, right, That's not

always the case. So, I mean, there are so many reasons that can come up in the life of a woman when it comes to her care, her care of her health, of her breast or her body, for overies of her womb, all these different parts that we have as women. That need special care. Uh. And I really just want to encourage women to not let anything stop you from taking good care of yourself because you're the priority. You know, nothing else matters if you don't prioritize yourself.

And yeah, I get to learn that the hard way, but I only have to learn it once right, it will not happen. And it's so beautiful because you know, sometimes we look at life and we'll see all these great things that I have, and then you wonder why all these backwards You're like, oh my gosh, everything keeps going wrong. But when you turn it around and how you say, like changing your perspective or realizing even something

I study improv at the Groundlings, it's amazing. I love it if that whole notion of someone blames you for something. And just like the Groundlings has taught me, it's a it's a matter of a yes, and how do we grow and build upon from this? So let me receive because if I'm blocking, which I feel like stressed us any type of attention, nothing is moving, Toxins aren't moving out of your body appropriately. Um stuck and and understanding that whole yes and that ability has allowed to flow

and It's just interesting when we talk about caring for self. Right, and even as you just said on here, you said, I'm a light, right, your light cannot be constricted. The sun doesn't ask for permission to I. So who are you if something is giving you a signal? How dare you try to contain whatever life, your body or whomever

is speaking to you? Because in that lesson, that is actually a blessing experiencing that I do find the beauty and trials and tribulations because now you're gifted to speak a language that not many people can speak nor understand, because now you can speak to me about a person who I need to consider. This is a top priority, not to be scared. Why it's important to take those mammigrants Because I'm not sure if I have the name

of the test correctly. But as I was watching your video, you said, um, I think you had to have two pet scans or pet that were like the P E T s. I've had three now when I did that video, I had to but I the third one sense. So what is that about? Well, that's how you basically are able to look into the body and see if cancer has gone anywhere else outside of the original localized spot UM and see what the metabolic activity is. An interesting thing is to me when I look at how they

test for all this stuff. UM. When I was going through my mom's situation and she was doing chemotherapy in the standard way, they were giving her UM, you know, for like snaps and stuff, they would bring around these trays of like granilla bars and had grape juice and all this other stuff on it, which even then, thirteen years ago, in my mind, I was like, I'm sorry, but that can't be how she's supposed to eat with

the fact that sugar fuels cancer. And you know that the industry knows it because in pet scans they give you radioactive sugar basically, and you that you fast for well eight hours whatever, and then you either injected or you drink this stuff, depending on the kind of scan you're doing. But um, it goes into your body and your cancer cells because they're greedy and they feed themselves first and they want sugar. They suck up all that sugar and that's what lights them up. That's what the

scan actually detects. This radiated sugar then lights up in the cancer cells because they're the ones eating it first. And fast. Right, so they're using the fact that cancer feeds on sugar and absorbs it, you know, the most and first in your body to actually test and see how much cancer is in your body. But they're feeding it to you in chemotherapy. I mean, it's like the craziest contradiction. And yet, you know, we we have a lot of faith and how they do stuff, which I'm

not saying don't have. I I'm on the fence because I have this vast amount of respect and gratitude for doctors and especially first responders and nurses, everybody in the medical industry, right, what they sacrifice, what they go through to even be there and get the degrees that and and certificates they have to be able to help us. And when I am in an emergency situation, please take me to an e er and not a herbal doctor. Right. If I break my leg, please go let them reset it,

don't go get me supplements. I understand the value of of medicine, and at the same time, when I see in some ways how they treat chronic illnesses and what what I perceive as a lack of understanding about the human body that they're treating in terms of what it's power is and what its ability is. To not harness that and use it to help the human body doesn't

make sense in my mind. It's part of the reason I couldn't go UM the standard protocol route with with my situation, because I just we don't think enough a life for me to be able to embrace what you're talking about. You know, if I sit with one of the leading on colleges in l A and I want to talk to him about food and he says food has nothing to do with this, I'm like, don't know what else we can talk about, because for me, that's the exact opposite of what I know to be true.

If that's true, stop telling diabetics to avoid sugar. Food ain't got nothing to do with it. So I think we have too many examples of how we eat having a direct core lation with the health of our bodies to ignore that any longer. And I can understand UM

the difference in thinking. Where I draw my line is, I'm gonna go with how I think because my experience has to be dictated by my understanding, and I'm open to receiving the understandings of other people, especially experts and I'm still the one who's gonna decide what President Bush say. I'm the decider. I am the decider when it comes to my body and my life. Uh. And I I hold onto that, you know, with everything, because that to me makes the difference between if I'm going to be

happy with my outcome or not. And either way, no matter what I do, the end result down the line is that I'm gonna have to get out of this body at some point. So for me, the point is how do I want to live in the body? How do I want to treat the body? I think I can make this body last a lot longer not destroying it and by supporting it and by helping it do what it's designed to do. You know, your immune system

fights cancer all the time. The reason most people haven't been diagnosed when we all have potentially cancer aus cells in our bodies is because their immune system attacked and the maclefages ate it up. It did its job right some reason, for some reason, I should say in my body that wasn't the case. I wanted to find out what the reasons were why my body couldn't do what it's supposed to do, what it's designed to do what

it's divinely and intelligently created for doing. I wanted to find out what I was doing to stand in the way of that process. I want to get out of the way and then see what the process would be right to me, that's what's logical. And then if I have to go through and start destroying stuff, tear and stuff. If if that is the case, then I'll consider that. But that wasn't the first step for me. When you talk about first steps, like what do I do next? For me, the first thing that I needed to do

was the least damage. Since I already had a system that was turning on itself to a certain extent, I needed to do the least damage and try to figure out how to slowly turn this big old ship or round to start going in the right direction again. Because at some point we were going in the right directions right and then something happened. What was that something? And you know the scientist in me, And I've had a

scientist in me since I was a little girl. Remember one of the worst whoopings I got was trying to make my own shampoo, and I used my grandma's cleaning products. So I used to soa and hydrogen peroxide because I'm using cleaned out words, and I put lemons. I squeezed lemon juice in it, because you know, Lemon's clean things too, and made a shampoo and washed my hair with it and turned my whole head red, and yeah it was.

I probably still have a mark on my legs and then worse, but I used So I have always thought out myself to be a scientist and listen, if I'm gonna be anybody's guinea pig, it's gonna be my own, uh, because I'm smart and I trust myself, and I trust that if I try something on this body that I'm in, I'm gonna know if it's working or not. Your body is constant communicating with you, constantly telling you if what you're doing is right, if what you're doing is not right,

if it feels good or not. Like we have all these signs and and and indications of things that we have not really learned how to interpret. We have plants around us that we are told and at least in the Bible, we've been given these plants to heal, to feed ourselves, to use. So you know, to me, it makes sense to start with what I know to be true. What I know to be true is that we are healing bodies. We have potential for um for healing ourselves. We see it all the time. You cut your finger.

You don't know how that heals up, It just does. Right. You don't even know how your heart is pumping to keep you alive all day long. You trust that it's doing it. You don't know how your breath works, but it does. And so within all these standard kind of um that the body's natural functions are powers right that if we harness in the right way, I believe we can use to help ourselves. That does not mean we don't need medicine. We do, but I think we need

it in a different way than how we're using it currently. Absolutely, And the first thing that comes to my mind is just thinking of discernment. You have to be in and and and along the lines of supporting how I was saying, you know, you have to make a choice. These things can come at you. But just like anything, you apply what applies to you and you walk through it received

and how can I build? And it was so amazing of how you're saying how important it is to know your authority and know the power you have over your life, because when you're in despair, you just forgot who you were. Yeah, well, fear paralyzes you. It's set fight or flight. You know. We're given this, this ability to the fight or flight.

It's this reflex in our bodies, right, naturally built in and I think it's it's probably been there from the very beginning when our ancestors running from lions and not trying, you know, trying not to get eaten. So there's there's a necessity for it that I think is much more valuable,

probably back then then now. But because it's built into us, we have of this ability to to trigger ourselves into this fight or flight, right, And so when fear hits us, our bodies don't know the difference between a fear of an illness or fear of a lion. Right, it stirrups and it comes in and go, Yeah, locks you up, just like that, locks you up, and you can either run or you can freeze. And our evolution, I think as human beings has allowed us, you know, these great brains,

we have, these control centers of our bodies. We have evolved. I believe we have evolved to the point where we can think through, uh, with our awareness and our consciousness, overcome this fear frozen dynamic that happens, this fight or flight and and go be an observer of it and say, I see what's happening. I feel that fear trying to come. Can you just say, I see, I see it. I see I see I see you coming fear. You know,

I've had those moments. It's funny to me because I think, Uh, what I don't want to do is give the impression that I never have any you know, bad moments or or moments where I'm I actually don't have moments where I'm doubtful, but what's the right word, Moments where I'm shook by something. Right, I have moments like that. But what I do in those moments determines how I get through those moments. And what I do in those moments

is recognized them as what they are. You know, this the tour that was that I found in my breast was not in my windpipe, was not in my uh, you know, my bowel system. It wasn't in a place that was going to cause me uh immediate uh an emergency level harm. Right, wasn't going to in my life right now, there are things that you experience on a daily basis that may have that may do that. Right, this wasn't one of those things. And so when I felt or observed this fear that exists around it, I

had to put it in context. I had to put it in perspective and say, uh, let's get some fact straight. You can't do nothing to me right now. You have been here for years, because that's the truth. If you have a tumor the size of the one I found in my breast that has been growing, that did not just pop up overnight, that has had a track record in your body that you have been unaware of. It's been there and I didn't know it, and I was just fine, right, So I was just frying this whole

time without the awareness of it. I'm not gonna let the awareness of it all of a sudden spin me into some chaos in my mind that freezes me and stops me from being able to think clearly and have the discernment you're talking about, and remember who I am. Forget right, don't. You're not gonna let me. You're not

gonna get me to forget. And I think I've had enough experiences in my life and things that were much more life threatening immediately where I was able to live past them obviously and look back and say, ha, ha, you didn't get me, and there's reason you didn't get me. And I'm still here and I'm gonna keep a pushing. And so you know what I do in those moments of panic is take a breath. When we talk about breath as one of the tools of control in our bodies, it is so real and it is so powerful, and

we have, you know, examples of it throughout history. You can look back to, like personal examples, you you can hear about in text and you find us more in India probably, but Yogis who were able to bring their heart beat down to the point where people would think they were dead, or bring their breath down to the point that their bodies, you know, their heart rate actually change, their blood pressure actually diminished. So all these things in our bodies we have control over, and there's a way

we have control over them. Breath is one of those ways. So when I start panicking, the first thing I have trained myself to do is take a very deep breath all the way into my abdomen, fill it up, hold it almost until I get lightheaded and then slowly let it out, and that triggers these autonomic nervous systems, these parasympathetic nervous systems. All the different titles of the systems and our bodies, these routes that our bodies take to

do things. You can get some control over them. You can calm yourself down to the point that you can think again. Everything slows down a little bit, because you know, when you're panicking, you're like this anything breaking out, your body sweat and aren't again. You have to stop that process. Be easy, yeah, yeah, so that the right information can get to you. We are receptors. Were living in a big old battery. This body is a big old battery.

It charges up, it receives information. We are magnets. All of that is real Energetically. You can figure all that out for yourself. I'm just telling you it's true for me, and because I know that. I know that when you block those things right, you're stopping the magnetic cre energy. You're stopping things from getting to you. And so if you can just recognize that you're the one doing it, then you can be the one to stop doing it.

And when you do that, things become in the moment, because really you we're just taking this life moment by moment, said, when we look too far ahead, that panic is too much. I'm gonna take it's moment by moment. What can I do right now? What's happening right now? What's the threat right now? What's real right now? And when you can stay in the moment, present, right now, you realize you

have so many options to determine the next moment. And for me, that's where the majority of my healing, of my UH bringing into my environment, the other options, whether their treatments or people or UH energetic work, all the things that I need and have meeted over these last two years have come to me because I've been able to slow down, calm down, and not let that panic

be bigger than me. Wow, and here it is so beautiful that you what you said to right so when you mentioned the fact about the fear right the confusion, and you said, when I take a minute, I can breathe, I can see right Well, I just have to feed. I have to keep digesting your words. That was the first thing that you talked about being the light. We'll see when you cast on the light, you can see I can't if I'm so busy. But here's another thing

that I thought was beautiful. I had a young lady on the previous episode on the podcast carm Alone right just so, she talks about this whole situation of just like anything with a yang and a yang, you have a good and bad. And while we understand these things, of these notions from the doctors, we have to choose what we're going to inflame or engulf ourselves in. Yes, But just like with anything, if you step too close to the sun, or if you put your hand in fire,

it will get burned. And it goes to the whole notion of just handle with care, use what's applicable to you. Do you hold the fire in your hand or do you use it as a guiding light? Do you let the sun blind you in your eyes or do you put shade on? How do you take control of your life? So even in this moment, if you're saying, you know I'm gonna harness who Ananda is, I'm gonna walk and knowing who I am at a point that I can briefe to know how to choose to move forward with

what that I do? How do you how important is gratitude. And what does happiness look like to you? Now? Gratitude is everything you look at the frequency of of energy, right, and we're energetic beings, like I said, but down here at the bottom and sadness and grief and and uh lack at lack, just lack is at the bottom, right,

and you dig a bit, you're in the hole. And as you start to rise up the scale of energetics and frequencies at the top, uh, the top of what we can access anyhow, you know, I think there's another realm beyond us at the top of our realm. Love, gratitude, um, happiness, joy, all those things are really high frequencies. And when you look at what frequencies it takes to heal something, those

are also really high frequencies. So they live up in the love and the gratitude and the joy and all that the good stuff and the stuff that makes you feel good. The reason it makes us feel good is because now increase your energetic frequency and your body. You're raising your frequency, there's an impact on your body of that because you're a battery, because you're energetic. So I find that gratitude it's right up there with love, and joy like it is one of the most important things.

And I think it's because sometimes it's easier for us to um look outside of ourselves for things. I know that's true for me sometimes, so we don't always look within. Right, our our immediate human instinct, I guess, is to look outside and copy that. But look outside and do that, look outside and see that. So that's fine. Let's let's use what we got. When I look outside and I can project gratitude on something outside of me, that gratitude

automatically comes back and becomes my experience. And so you're using the dynamics of seeing outside of you what you would like or what you can identify as something you're grateful for, and then receiving that full circle comeback of the gratitude you've just put out in the world. Because what you put out is what you'll get back. That is just a rule of nature, a law of nature that we are not going to change anytime soon. Let's work with it, right, what you put out is what

you're gonna get back. So if I'm putting out gratitude even towards something outside of myself that I see as an object or a person or whatever that's gonna come back to me, and it comes back and and all kinds of forms. You can't predict how it's gonna come back. You just know that the law says it will come back to you. And when you know what you know, it's like doing math and class. When you know what

you know. I know for a fact if I put it out there too, it's gonna come back to me plus two and I'm gonna get for I'm gonna get it because that's the truth. And when you know the truth, you can stand on that and say I already know what's gonna happen. So all I have to do is my part. My part is putting out love. My part is putting out gratitude. My part is putting out joy because that's what I want to experience. And I know that. Like Dr Joe Dispenser, who has been vital for me

on this path, is teachings anyway. He always says you the best way to predict your future is to create it. The truth and that is that you're creating your future. And so if you're experiencing something you don't like, or you know, whether it's a situation or person or whatever, Energetics come in all forms, right, people, experiences, etcetera. If you're experiencing something you don't like, um, get through the blame of it and saying well, whose fault is it? Whatever?

Just know that all you have to do is say, well, what do I want experience next? Okay, I don't like what I'm experiencing. Now you have a choice to dwell on that or not. When you dwell on it, you just create more of it if you don't want experience, if you genuinely don't want experience. Because there's some people who are addicted to the habit of being sad, say the habit of being unhappy. Come on to the habit

of being mistreated. They're addicted to that because it's easy way to help people too, write they're just used to it. We habit can be formed with anything you do repeatedly. Good habits, bad habits. You're forming a habit if you're used to being mistreated. You might be in a habit of being mistreated, and so you don't know what else it feels like, and that's what you're used to feeling. So that's what you're gonna can to you to attract

was that's what you're thinking you want experience. As soon as you want to change something, all you have to do is say what do I want experience instead, and then experience it without having to have any external proof of that being what you know it actually is in your own thoughts. Everything starts with thought. In your thoughts, experience what you want to feel, and then open your eyes and walk through your life with that feeling, and it will show up for you because you are putting

it out there and you will get it back. That's the math. Use the math in your favor. And when I remember that, even in those little moments that I go away with whoo whoo, I know what I can do say put out what I want experience right, And the way I'll do that to answer your question fully, I'll use music. I will uh listen. I talked to myself a lot because I'm I'm I live alone right now. So when I need some encouragement or else, it's gonna be over you. So listen, or I get in the

mirror and I can listen. I know you don't feel like it today, but here's what you obut to do. You're gonna get up, You're gonna go get these ivy bags. You're gonna go do this act. Whatever it is you gotta do today, You're gonna do it, and it's gonna work and you are gonna heal and you're gonna be Okay, suck it up, buttercup, and let's get to it. Sometimes you have to be your own general, your own sergeant,

your own drill sergeant, you know. And I think we depend too much on what we need from other people, when everything we need is right inside of us, and when we reflect it, we get more of it. So it seems like it's coming from other people, but it's

really coming from us. And let me tell you my biggest my biggest experience with that truth is when I shared this video because I, without really knowing it, without it being my focus, I was putting out all of this love and consideration and compassion and and and energy to people I care about, right to the world, specifically women, specifically women who look like me. I was putting that out there, and all of a sudden, this wave of

it came back at me. Come on, and it is has been so beautiful and it has been so sustaining without you know, I mean, total strangers. We're talking about people I have never never willed me deciding choosing to send me love, to to pray for me, to hold me up um as the result of what I initiated, right, And so the point there is you initiate it and then you receive it back. And if we can start to think like that, we no longer hold other people

as accountable for what we're experiencing. We know what I'm experiencing is up to me. And maybe I'm not experiencing it right now because I didn't put it out there to begin with. Maybe it doesn't exist outside of me because I didn't create it to get it back. So then where do you start. You start with creating it and then putting it out there, and then wait, because it's coming back to you. Just watch it come back to you will receive it. It's a law of nature

that you can't change. You have my brain on fire. I can't contain. I don't know what this is. But whatever this is that you give to me, I didn't. I have went down to the point of even when you talked about from a biblical stance, if we want to go there, because I think messages are a different way. And we talked about that thing we experienced. Thing, it's just a different language or a different vibation. Neighbors, honor myself. I have to love on you to receive that. M

Gandhi be the change that you want to see. Even when you said I I I that I have to see I I can see me. Stop playing with me, Ananda, you better come on here. And you know, wow, somebody can listen to this and say, oh, is it just about how dealing dealing with cancer and how to get over cancer? No, this is about loving yourself, honor ring yourself, because everything that you said, you can apply it to any aspect of your life. Because if I know who I am, I know who's I am. I know the capacity.

I am not going to put five gallons of water in one gallon and a jug because I know the capacity. But just like we talked about the eye and being the light this little lot of mine, I'm gonna let it shine. What can I need to do even in the midst of darkness, I I can still see, Ananda, you better do it. And I was gonna go into the next thing, but you already went there because you know I had you know, you know I'm from Detroit, And when the whole Clark's Sisters the film came out,

I just went in and listened to the soundtrack. And you know there's a track. You gotta name it, you gotta claim it. And even in the what you said, you said, I'm gonna speak this over and even in this situation, I think that's when it comes to the gratitude, when you have to look self in the face and say, I, I see you m what does your picture look like? How I see myself um completely healed and helping other women from here on out, Like I absolutely see this

as an opportunity disguised as a as a burden. And again that's perspective, right. I don't believe I would have had um the passion for this having just watched people I love go through it, because I did watch people I love go through it and and didn't have the passion. Sometimes passion has to come from being burned by your own experience, right, And and and so we go through the fire and we end up uh healed by it in some respects. So I feel like this can happen to anybody.

I'm not special or unique, um, And maybe it happened to me because I have gifts that I've been able to use in other capacities in my life that I can now apply to this and move forward with this passion for helping women and people understand their bodies better, understand controlling and and um refusing fear better and a real passion for helping especially women who look like me, understand their choices when it comes to this realm of

breast cancer because we're not being told everything. Uh. And I don't think that's some conspiracy. I think there's capacity. Doctors do what doctors do there in their specific realm. It's up to you to go to all these different realms and figure out what's possible for you because you're the one that's going to benefit from collecting all that information. But is there a place that helps us do that? Um. Also,

the the treatments I'm getting are ridiculously expensive. And when we look at the disparity and healthcare, we can look at it as a racial disparity, But what I'm learning is it's really a financial disparity that comes down to race because of the financial disparity that exists between racism. So I think that when you can pay for it, you can get it and the treatments that exists that

that we don't necessarily have access to. I have every intention of opening up some access to because if it's just about money, there's enough money on the planet, there's enough money within our people, um, and it's just a matter of how we use it, directing it to the right thing. And I absolutely plan on starting a nonprofit

that doesn't do research, because we have enough research. I'm living things right now that are working to heal this breast cancer out of my body, and other women need to have access to these things, and we need to pay for that access, and so we've got to pay for access. Let's do it. Let's get some money together and pay for the access and start saving some lives, and not just for the sake of longevity, but for the quality of that life to be how we want to live in the bodies we want to live in

the way that we want to live our lives. That's the real living, right, not just sitting here on the planet this in a body, but powerfully existing and thriving in your life the way that you want to. And it's possible, uh, and I'm living it. And so if I can use this experience to help other women have the same experience. That's that's what I'm gonna be here for. And you had to ask me, why am I thanking you for being you? And nonlest thank you? Well, listen,

our jobs is to be ourselves. I could thank you for being you too, but you're just doing your job. And so yeah, let's thank each other for doing our jobs. But let's not forget that that's not why we do our jobs. It's not for the thank you. It's because that's what you're here for. You're here to do what you're doing, and so my gratitude about it should have nothing to do with whether or not you do it.

Mm hmm that's a word. Well, thank you so much for this impactful conversation and and and the passion, yes, the passion of just being an energy source and and just exuding that. So I guess I'm sure someone is listening or watching and they want to know how do I keep up with you? Uh? You know, I wish I could say I'm more socially uh able, I'm a little I'm a little not able where it comes to the social media. Is the one I can do best is Instagram. So that's really kind of where I live

the most. Um, I'm a figure out the other ones at some point. But they make it so easy just to post everywhere for one place, but I choose I keep it easy. I got enough to do. I've been threat but all day long, every day, so mainly it's Instagram. My my Instagram handle is I'm like I am Anno Lewis um and I you know, I'm not as active as I probably will be once this is all over. I post one i can and right now that's a little sporadic, but I do plan on starting to share

a little more of the preventative side of things. And in terms of what else we can do, Yes, get your mamograms. Yes, get their early detection so you know what's going on in your body. And also I know that sugar feeds this. I have lived that myself, um, And so what else should we be doing? Right? I know that I've had these panels of tox uh chemicals found in my body. And one of the things I've been doing wrong is eating too many potato chips and

French fries. Well, that was staple food for me, and I know it is for many other people. But do you know how much acrylamite is created by cooking potatoes at those high temperatures that then you eat the whole thing. I mean, there's so much that I'm learning that I feel like it's a it's a really unique uh experience that I'm having right and and one that needs to be shared, one that needs to be known by other people, UM so that they can not end up where I

ended up to have to learn all this. So eventually I will start um just doing quick you know, hey, what is this? How do you how do you avoid it? What should you be eating? Or I want to look at labels. When you look in at labels, there's a lot of stuff on there that could be going in your body causing a problem with your immune system. So I'll be starting to do a little more of that sharing and just not telling people what to do, but

telling them what I've learned, because that's the real benefit. Like, if you're learning something, tell somebody so they can benefit too. It doesn't mean they're gonna do it, but it means that you have given them now this extra layer of understanding that's possible for them to pull from if they choose to. UM. So I'll be doing that on Instagram. I am on Facebook two. I don't know what my handle is on there, but I'm not that hard to find as a little girl on a donkey. It's me

at seven on a on a donkey in Tijuana. That's the picture right now. Um and what else in my on Twitter? But I'm not that active. Instagram is really my favorite place, and that's the jam. Okay, so we're I'm Ananda Luis on Instagram. Check it out. Um, Well,

that was it. I guess that's amazing. When when you decide to come back, I would love to have you back to discuss maybe some of the foods, because I myself, I've I'll say vegan is primarily adopted a vegan diet, and I'm saying whether it was with the fire boards that I had and the pain going away, but also looking at the fact when it comes down to cancer. So I would love to even explore more conversations. Um, because you know, just dealing a mid let, you put

anything your body and people need to know that the fuel. Well, there's so much bad information, right and it changes so frequently. Just like the mamogram recommendation do it Fordy, do it thirty five? Like we have so much bad information, or let me not call it bad, let me say it's changing information. Right, And maybe it's changing because even what they're understanding is changing too. I'm fine with understanding is changing, but we've got to have some fundamental under some fundamental

truths to go with. Right. Meat has been proven to be carcinogenic in some ways. Right, and again, depending on your body, some people's bodies handle meat better than others. My body doesn't handle meat well, which it sounds like maybe yours doesn't eat I'm a vegan right now because I went through this whole keto eating, which I needed to do to starve out the cancer cells from all the sugar that you would get from a high carb diet. But now I've shifted into this maintenance plan where it

is high fiber, high starch, very low oil. When you think about how our ancestors would have eaten, they didn't have uh oil presses, right, They weren't able to pull out this much oil from olives. You know how many olives got to eat to have this much oil. So when we're pouring all this oil on our food, we're clogging up our system in ways that it's not used

to handling small amounts of naturally occurring oil. Yeah, if you're actually eating at alive, But what you're also getting is the fiber and all those other micronutrients that come in the all of your not just extracting um, you know, the basically the juice from it. It's like taking an orange is opposed to having or eating an orange is supposed to having a glass of orange juice. Well, you might have eight oranges and a glass of orange juice.

That's too much sugar for your body. Right, The orange itself has the fiber and all the micronutrients that the orange as a whole plant, the whole fruit will have. That's what our body understands. So things like that are super important when you talk about your health. Because I thought I was healthy. I thought I was eating in

a way that was good from my body. I didn't understand that the little things I was doing, like French fries every week, were as bad as they were because it was eating vegetables to you know, some things we have to completely eliminate, and the discipline of that becomes difficult. But when you think about you know, well, when I think about the amount of discipline I have to have now doing the protocols, doing the treatments, committing to all

the hours a day being away from my child. I could have spread that out across like ten years and done it in a more balanced, you know, a little bit out of time way. Now I have to concentrate it in you know, four or five months and really hit it hard because things have gone further than I

would like them to have gone. So I really do want to emphasize to people, and I'll be doing that through the I G how you can start to be proactive in prevention so that you don't have to take all this time away from your life to heal yourself. M I like that be in your life. So you have to step away because you gotta put the time in either way. That's what I'm learning. You got put the time in either way. Yeah, just go keep dropping Jims. Okay,

thank you so much. I appreciate this time. Thank you for speaking life And is there anything else if you could leave an inspirational moment that you would want to say to anyone um, something that you would say the greatest lesson you learned through this or just in life for where you are right now I've learned so much. Let me see if I can narrow it down. I would say one thing that we haven't here, because we hit on so many of the things that I would use as an answer. One thing we haven't hit on

is the fact that we are creative beings. Where you know, if you believe that we're creating the image of our creator, um, then the keyword there is creator and we are all creative. One of the things that's helped me the most is

really tapping into my creativity. Now we're all born with it, but we live these lives, especially in our society, where it's kind of pulled out of us right where we're judged for our creativity, where you're told you can't sing, or you ain't talented, or you someone else's opinion comes into play. Don't do it for them, do it for you. If you want to sing, get in your shower and sing. Right. If you want to dance, move the furniture and dance

around your house. Don't let anything stop you from the flow of creativity that is supposed to roll through your body, because it's beneficial and it can o you and it can help you. Because you're tapping into your truest self and your truest nature and don't deny it. You know. I've had to open up to it, and the way I've done it is through song and music with a group called um the Jam Nation. It's just a bunch of people who can freestyle, you know, we freestyle music together.

And of course now we can't do it because of COVID, but all up until January we were getting together every week and just having these amazing jam sessions. And the deeper you dig into yourself, the more you find, just like in the earth, right, the deeper you dig, the bigger the jewels, and so dig That's what I would say, dig into yourself because you are a treasure and there's more. The deeper you go, just keep digging. Wow. Now I

enjoy that. You know, it's good when you walk away from somebody or a conversation and you feel more energized than you were when you walked into it. You know, it feels good to feel good, and it feels good knowing about the importance of loving yourself and when you decide to step up in the forefront to to be the healer for self. I love that and I love this conversation. I hope if you're out there and you're dealing with any type of obstacle, that you understand that

you're worthy. You're worthy of knowing yourself, You're worthy of checking yourself before you wreck yourself. So I want to continue to send words of positivity and good energy of healing and understanding towards Ananda's way, And if you like to do the same, you can make sure you follow her on social media as I am Ananda Lewis on

Instagram and Ananda Lewis on Twitter. As always, you can catch us here in your phone or whichever smart device you fancy every Monday with more inspiring conversations and insights. If you're looking to get even more Vitamin D in your life, you can also follow me at Dawn Day Speaks on Instagram and Twitter. And until next time, always remember you are your greatest asset.