Love Conquers All (w/ Vanessa Bell Calloway)

So I'm here to shed light into your life. You know, one of the principles that you know I talk about on each episode on Vitamin D It's all about how you are your greatest asset. Catch it. You are your greatest asset. So all that means is just like a checking or any type of account that you have. You put things in, you take things out, you take allocation of your life, and you see what you have, uh and the value of it. Well, I'm here to tell

you that your life is your greatest asset. You are your greatest asset because everything is an extension of you. So with Vitamin D, that's what it's about and understanding how you are your greatest asset. It's all about shedding light and and this is the thing we think of life. We give joy and happiness. Yes, it is all that and more. But the key to realize and what we talk about shedding lights is that it's going to unveil

the good and the not so good. I usually say the bad, but I should just say that not so good or the other side. Because when you talk about living your best life on purpose and for a purpose, you need to see a three sixty of you angle. I mean, think about it. Could you imagine moving through life and only be able to see what's in front of you while that's the vision in the direction you're going,

There's a definitely a benefit having peripheral vision. There's definitely a benefit to do a pivot, to do a turnaround. And that's what we gotta do. We gotta make sure we see our lives through all angles. So this is your first time, Thank you, welcome. This is what it's about because I want you to be great and I want you to to to live every day your life excited. Huh So if you can't tell, I'm so excited, I

am uber excited, especially about this episode. Um, I have the one and the only Mrs Vanessa Bell Callaway and she's joining on this episode to talk about her role as Lady Ella and bounced TV's hit series Saints and Sentators. It's on season five, and we delve into a few things. If you can't tell already this this series has to be sucked in. You know, I talked to both of

her kids on the show that was Jasmine Berg. You know, she portrays the character of doctor um Christie Johnson, and then I had talked to Trade Cheney, who portrays the role as Kendrack. Okay, it's so much. Okay, I'd like to refer to Saints and Senators as um or as they have referred to it as Jasinburg as a black soap opera. So that's just a soap opera with a little bit more f life. You're gonna be sick none as your seats. You're gonna be sucking on your fingers.

So anyway, I talked to Vanessa Belle Callaway about her character as Lady Ella, and one of the things that I found was interesting because you're on the fence as to whether or not she's a good or bad person, and what she stood out and what's something that she said is that hurt people hurt people, and we unpack on who Lady Ella is, what we can really see and what we can expect to see, what's going to

happen in season five. And then also, you know Mrs Callaway, she's been married for over thirty plus years and the thing that's so amazing is that she unveils and unpacks a few things when it comes down to maintaining a happy and healthy marriage. Okay, how you can miss out on your potential life partner if you get caught up sweating the small stuff? Right, always gets real. But when I walked away, more than anything that stood up to me, it's just the importance of love. It's what we all want.

And um, there's nothing but loving inspiration that's coming from this woman. So let me hush my mouth buckle up, because now it's time to dive in for your dose a vitamin day, right with me and get excited Midwestern house. Hello, Hello there, Mrs Callaway. How are you? I'm well? Thank you? How are you? I'm doing amazing? I'm talking to you, aren't you sweet? So? How are you doing today? I am doing great, the beautiful day here in Atlanta. I'm so excited to have you now I talked to two

of your kids on the show. I've talked to uh Dr Christie A K A. Jasmine and Kendrick A K. Trey. Yeah, and um, I'm trying to figure do I feel about Lady Ella. So we're gonna the Saints and Sinners is definitely like a drama that has me wound up from left to right, front to back. But first, before I make my judgment and before I dive in, tell me about your character Lady Ella. Well, you know, she's involved

a great deal over the years. When he first met Lady Ella, she was married to Master Johnson and he died, so she became a widow and kind of took over the church. You know, the church has always been a soft spot for her because it was, you know, her husband's church. She has a soft spot. Yeah, she got she got a couple, couple and her father was a pastor. And then of course when her mother was introduced in season two, that was a whole dynamic where you saw her.

You know, her mother was the only person who kind of can make her feel like a little girl, make her feel in sufficient and insignificant, you know, and un unaccomplished. You know, her mother could just look at her and it just melts her. So you know, of course, what we see Lenel in the world, her world around citeer, she's she bullies people. Basically, she's a bully. Um. She's mean. She's a very self centered, self serving. She's hurt, sharts people,

and she doesn't care. So her mother and her you know, now, they're kinda divide it and they fight a lot. So she takes a lot, but she's very protecting her children. Now when it comes when it comes to her babies, don't mess with her baby, she will cut you. So she's evolved a lot, you know. But she's you know, hurt people, hurt people, you know. Um, and this season you're gonna really see, uh, she gotta meets her match. She kind of gets she gets hurt, hurt, she puts

out to other people. You're like, you know, don't put off with same date, right, Hello, you keep messing with that fire, You're gonna get burned, right And she gets burned. But you you learned a lot about a lady bird and her in the relationship, and you understand more about them. I'll just leave it at that. Can't spoiler Lerner can't take you what happens. And that's what I saw because you know, a minute there, you know, you want to look at Lady Ellen. It's like, well, where are your heart?

Where's your heart? But it's the very same thing. And you know, and that's what I like to talk about on the Vitamin D podcast because you know it's a pun off of my name. You get vitamin D from the sun. So I'm here to shed light into your life. And so not only are we shud a light what's going on with saints and centators, but also what's going on with Lady Ella. And you made something that was

so poignant. You said, hurt people, hurt people. And what I've realized and what I saw with this bridge and you know I had to tap into a Donnie mcclarkin for this one. You know, a saint ain't nothing but a center who fell down and got back up. And so just the I supposed of just saints and sent us. I don't see these as bad people, no, No, I mean they're just regular people trying, you know, trying to

make it. And what I love about the show is the church is a backdrop because you know, so often we want to do church shows, and you want to everybody to be church eat well. I mean, you know, just as you go church, don't mean that you what you said or the person. It just means that you person striving. You are person striving to do the best you can and and we need the guidance of the Lord to help us find those things in ourselves to

make us the better person. So these are just regular people who are attached to a church like so many of us, but in their everyday walk some of them are trying to really find a better way to do their walks, and some are just trying to survive, and some really don't give it an you know. So we're just regular peoples, yeah, just trying to you know, I tell people all the time, we are just these spiritual

beings having this human experience. And there's this communication of you know, I don't really I don't subscribe to religion, but my faith and God, in my relationship with God is there. But the foundation of coming up in Detroit, you know, I grew up in a Baptist church. That's the family. But to really elevating the sense to say hey, can you see me? And I'm not gonna spoil it, but honey, I was touching my pearls at the end

of the season one premiere. I'm not season one season five premiere because it's like, while Lady Ella, I see how she's pulling the strings with Dr Christie, her daughter Christie, just the manipulation. She gets out of prison and you already and then it's like, we're going season five premiere and it's like, look what your mama has done to you. Yeah, she's a manipulated now that that on that So let me ask you this one thing that you said about

what your character, Lady Alex. You said she loves her babies. How was she able to understand or even to grasp the idea of love when you look at her relationship with her mother. Well, sometimes you want to be everything that you didn't have to when you were a mother, you know, so when you you can step into what you feel you were missing, you sometimes overcomplsate to give it, to give it to other people. So Lady Ella knows what she was missing. And and also you know, you

gotta remember Kendrick got here. That was her love chob with with rats and I can't is that a HOMEI lover frand or fall all of them. That's the thing about Rex and Lady Ella. They you know, it's like they know they hate they love each other, and they hate each other, and they they're the only ones who can do that dance. They do the same Dan and sometime he leaves, sometime I leave, and it's like you can't live with him and you can't live without him,

and you're gonna see that. You'll see them again this season. They get they do this. But in the end, they came. They just came out. They just came out. He got that mound and he just be sitting in the ear. Yeah. Yeah, but you know, like mine, think alike. They have like mine, birds of a feather flock together. It was an episode four or episode was in season three or season four. I was season three and he told Lady Ellen, he said, you're evil matches mine, he's and he was trying to

let him know, you just you just like me. Ellen. You try to act like you're not like me. But Juke and I directed that episode, and I didn't know that scene now. I directed that episode and I it was a scene when we were having dinner and because he we were kind of starting to date a little bit then, and he was trying to seduce me and he let me know he thought, he said, you're evil

matches mind. So is she scared of him? Oh? No, He's the only one that you know, in a strange way that she really knows and she trusts him because she knows who he really is. Come on, wait a minute, I felt that. Yeah. No, so she knows him, you know, and she knows what he's capable of, and she knows that he's always gonna come to her rescue and he always does, even when he said when he swears he's through with her, that's the first person she calls to save her is Rex, and he always does. So she's

scared of him. I had to jump up on a couple of reasons because, uh Rex, just like how when you can be blended in so many categories. It's the flexibility. It's like you never know what you're gonna get with him on a different day. Right. But the thing that you said was keen to me is that, yeah, she doesn't fear him because she sees him. And it makes me think of when you think about fear over all,

it's false evidence appearing real. And I tell people all the time even when you talk about being your best self and stepping into something. If I see you, what can you do to me? I know which angle that you're coming to me. When I lived in New York, that was one thing that I felt like I really got my gangster card up, because just walking around New York taught me a sense to see. I'm walking down the street one I see you, how you doing? And I think in life and we're come in that disposition

and just to have something head on. Fear ain't got nothing on me because I see you bull yeah yeah. So my thing is this, why does she have to keep Rex around? Because he knows where all her body is buried. He got most stuff on her, just like you know him. He know her. And now they say you keep your in your friends close, with your enemies closer, you know. And then there's a sickness with them. They

can't they have to have each other. They don't. They don't want each other the you know, the way other people want to each other. And Lady Ella plays with him, She messes with them all the time. She just streams them along for a little thing. Honey, I said, Mrs Kyla, Way is holding where you came in there with your money,

you thought off REXI to forgot what's going on. And it's just so interesting that they say, like a man away to a woman's heart is through her ears, and a way to a man's heart is through their eyes. And I see how you guys are doing this dance that you're you're you're saying with one another. So when we talk about Lady Ella and what I'll give it too much, where is this going? And ultimately what does she want? You know the it really wants to be loved.

That's really her biggest problem. She keep pushing everybody away. He really wants to be loved, and she she wants that love of a father, and you know that kind of love, the love of a mother. You know, when you see the dynamics between her and her mother, you know, she just wants to be loved. And like we said, her people hurt people, so she is pushing people away because she's hurt. But she gets she kind of gets her.

She meets her match this season and she's hurt. So the hurt that she's inflicted on other people she gets one't even better and it crushes her because of the person that the hurts coming from that inflicted the pain. Say that mus just say that the person inflicted the pain. It hurts even more because of who it is and what she thought it was going to bring to her life. On that expectation, she thought that this person was going to help change her life and just like if things

she gets played. So wait a minute, Okay, you can't tell us what. I can't tell you what. I can't think what. Keep watching because those episodes are coming up and the other episodes that you're gonna really need to see. And I'm like, I can't remember the episode it is. Is this scene with a Lady Bird and Lady Ella and it's Donald Frisco, who plays my mother. Does a

beautiful job in the scene. It's a beautiful scene, and you really will find out a lot about Lady Bird and Lady Ella and why they are the way they are. It's gonna all reveal. It's it's gonna reveal a whole new side of things, and it's gonna give you a whole different understanding of these characters. That's all I can say.

I came at the premiere of season five and I thought I got something because I'm looking at Lady Bird, And I'm like, it's just people in the church, this whole having to put on, you know, trying to hold up to a sudden standard whether and it's just like, let God do that work, and why don't you just do you and just be human exactly exactly. So it's so interesting that And I'm just wondering how you pull

this in with your character. You've been married for over thirty years, understanding and no one would love looks like, knowing the ups and downs, the roller coasters, the twists and turns. How did you use I guess what you knew to either put or to take away from Lady Allen, because she's kind of like the opposite of what you would say who you are in your marriage. Yeah, she doesn't like me, not like me. That's why I'm playing her.

But I wouldn't want to be her. No, No, I wouldn't want to be that lady from the all the tea in China. That's a that's probably a lonely place. She ain't got little friends on the show. That's my show. I ain't, I know for no girl friends. Come on, I don't go out to dinner with nobody. I don't go to hear no music. Uh Keith his character sings, you know myles, he's a singer. He's singing at the little club. I don't never go hear him saying I

don't do nothing. So she's lonely. But there's a price to pay for when you are not not a nice person to people and you don't you know, did bring people into York environment and share and loving and kinds. It's a price to pay. So I wouldn't want to be hurt. But yes, I've been married for thirty three years to September, thank you. And and there's a lot of work, you know, you gotta put the work in. So what advice would you give lady Ella about finding

love and marriage and just finding a good man. You can't be a self selfish person. That's a lady selfish. She's self serving, And you can't expect somebody to uh want to come into that environment unless they are some type of crooking person too who is self serving and selfish and they gotta plan because they're trying to get

some money. Then it loves not real because they're using you and you're using them, right, so that you first of all, you gotta you gotta love yourself and you gotta stop hurting yourself because the way you treat yourself is how you're gonna treat somebody else. What you're saying. Hold on. One thing I talked about on the Vitamin D podcast is how you are your greatest asset. And that's just realizing when we talk about money, you know what you put into your account and what you take

out of your account. And let's face it, life is ups and downs. But it's about finding that balance so that you can adjust. Because then everything that's an extension of you, Like you said, your relationship, how your hygiene, is, your career, your faith is all of a temperature check as to where you are. So interesting. N d r Re has said it in a song. She said love is not about how much you can take, but how much you can get. Stat's a Sewan. Folks ain't getting

married how they used to. Now I'm a millennia, I'm in my thirties. I think to myself, well, what is it? You know people said that marriage people stepped in into it for love, But is it unfair to say that probably then, or you know, years prior, it was a business exchange. Because I may have stayed through your BS because I don't have a job. I have to think about the livelihood of my family. But when you talk about millennials nowadays, we are ambition. We're going after our dreams.

So if I'm not here for the b S, I can survive without you. What are your thoughts? Well, I mean, you know, everybody has the right to feel and do what they needed their lives. But I'll say this was there's no relationship that's not gonna have a challenging moment or two or compromise. So if if you said, oh, I don't need you because I got my home on that, and that's cool, But is that what you want? Do you want to be by yourself? Do you want not to have children? You want not to have a family.

A lot of people want that. So that's what you want, that's good. But if you want a union, that's mean something, especially down the road, if you wanted to use this to produce children, Yeah, that's gonna b s you gonna put up with, you know, But guess what, there's a being se gonna put up with about you too. That's right. You know, you gotta bring more to the table than just an appetite. You know, how are you building? Are

you guys trying to build together? Because yeah, there's gonna be some stuff that goes down and not what level of degree of being you know, I can't speak on that. Every about every spirit is different. But if you think every day it's gonna be lovey dovey and you you you know, rubbing feet together every night, No, and any't like that. Love changes and you've got to know be able to change with the love. And that doesn't mean that's a bad thing. Love changes doesn't mean it's a

bad thing. It just means that as you grow, love needs different things to you. It provides different things, It feels a different way, and you grow with that and if you don't sometimes and that's what breaks people up. People change doesn't mean that it's a bad change. But the person that you met at thirty or whatever and you get married, this is gonna be the person you're gonna be with twenty years from that and you won't either. And if you are, then something that's not right, something

that happened. If you're that same person he married, you know, then there was some growth that you missed, you know, So it's gonna be changed and that's okay. And so when people say, oh, I don't need I don't need to devolved. And I got myself and I got my whole money and I got my own money too, and I'm married to like, I'll make my own money. I make my whole living. But it's better to share it. And it's more fun to a plan together, you know. It's more fun to uh be with you know, the

the love of my life for me then not. So when other things occur, you deal with it. You just kind of chalking up is what it is and keep it moving. So if I well, and I'm like, I had to put up any bs in my marriage and it would be pretty cut and dry. But yeah, I don't like him sometime to get on my nerves, and sometimes you probably don't like me, you know, and sometimes I get on his nerves. But we love each other

all the time. So how did you or when did you know that about your whose the moment I looked at him, I knew we went on one day that we've never been apart the moment, I just knew, especially after that first day, what happened. It just it was just a feeling. It was the conversation. It was just and the we went on one day. We never broke up, We never almost broke up. And a year and eight months later we were married. It just was going that way, and it just it was obvious to him, it was

obvious to me. So we didn't fight it. And yeah, I was twenty nine and he was twenty six when we met. Yes, and by the time we got married, I was thirty one and he was twenty eight. We didn't fight it. See, that's the thing. We didn't fight it. You know. He wasn't like, oh, but if I get married, I came running to no more tail, you know. And I wasn't like, oh, is there somebody better out here for me? Uh, because see, guy, I'll send you your husband and you let him go, or you get him

rindy and give them to another woman. I've seen that happen a lot. What you mean, because because we didn't take enough time with him, or or he wasn't tall enough, or he had a one one kirk you didn't like, or something that was probably when you look back years later, was really irrelevant, and you don't you know, Yeah, he's nice, He's a really nice guy. Let's focus on that. He's a really nice guy. Yeah, he's got a good job,

and let's focus on that. But he just think I like him taller, or he's his skin tell ain't my favorite color, or you know, I don't know he's he's a little heavier than I normally like my man to be, or what little pie cool things like that women get real picky about. Now he's mean and he beat you and he's has no ambitions. Was the reason is, shoot,

you leave somebody, you know. But when it's some little things and it's like I don't like twee dresses, Okay, well we work on that, you know, little things like that, it's like you when I'm at my husband, I made a list of one to ten before you met him, No, after I met him, when I was taking him and I put his qualities out and it was one to ten and there was my three things that I was like, he does this, he does that. And when I looked at that list, I said, is this a deal breaker

for us? It was like, no, it's not. You'll be You'll be fine. So because I didn't ask him, what if he did a list for me, I didn't want to know because I didn't want to know if this three things might have been one thing that I appreciate that you said, and it's something that really set out to me. I studied improv over at the Groundings Theater and we you know, step into the whole notion of a yes and and it's about receiving what's coming that way and then that and is the addition for me

and that whole moving forward. And one of the key things that you kept saying with yourself is that even in your relationship and heck, if somebody has just studied your background of the work, is that you have consistently to keep moving forward. And I feel like oftentimes in life that's where we get stuck at because when as you say, oh you got on my nerves, Oh I don't like the way you said this, and what you're wearing or how your hair looked this way, and just

whatever reason to dismiss somebody. But rather than using those additive qualities and just moving forward. So I gotta ask you, what's the next for you, Mrs Kyla Warren. Well, um, there's a lot going on. For me. It's I've been very blessed. So thank you Jesus first for that. Um. Right now, I'm directing a TV movie for TV one, a Christmas movie. UM. It's a lovely stories, it's a love story. It's called Someday at Christmas. It's gonna come

on Christmas two. So I'm literally in Atlanta directing that. I have one week left, a wrap on next week. And I'm also recurring on b ET Games People Play, And I'm recurring on b She sacrificed their new show that's starring Paula Patton, so I'm starring on that. I was just fitting wrapped up seasons before Shameless, the show time that the eleven season, the last season I was on since season one, So just wrapped that and it

finished just airing. And I also just played um keenan uh mother on the on his new show you know from Tops and from night Life. I just played his mother. I just aired last week. Um, and um in a couple of movies out now. I mean, it's I'm busy. It's really great. You've got a couple of things then I'm waiting to hear about. But right now, just trying to finish this movie up so that you guys can enjoy this beautiful love story Christmas love story and um,

finishing up sacrifice. So I gotta go back to New Orleans and do that, and then we're gonna wait and see if we get picked the first season six or Seaton Centers. Hey, I'll live in the speaking how you own a kind of lifestyle, So I'm speaking life. It's already common, I hope. So I wouldn't mind doing the season six. Well, I'm telling you now, you know, I just posted up on Steve HARVFM about the season five premiere, and everybody was going up talking about all the drama,

all the pros. Haul. I'm sitting on the edge of my seat front and let me just say thank you for sharing your body of work. Thank you for being bold and unapologetic with your dreams. Thank you for being an inspiration to show that you can be a boss in your career and still have a relationship and a beautiful family. And you are just the sweetest little like just adorable because I just love you. Your energy is

infectious and you're just shining so bright and so positive. Um, what we need to hear, what your millennial crew needs to hear. I have daughters your age. I'm sure you're here in that group. But this beautiful meeting you and you're such a light, such a bright light to this world into what you're contributing. So thank you, thank you serious, seriously, thank you well, thank you. Um this is my dream, so thank you for being a part of it, and

thank you for unapologetically going after your dreams. Hi know, before you get out of here, this is one thing that I asked for people to do. Like I said, vitamin D is a multi vitamin for your mind. So just a dose of inspiration and that you can leave, whether about love, relationship, life, something that you live by, a quote, a song, whatever, however, just to make the people feel good. Well, this is something I I live by and I tell people all the time. Stay ready,

to be ready. And what that means is whatever you need to fix, fix it. If you don't like your attitude, you don't throw your hair looks, your teethneed fixed, you want to lose that ten pounds, do whatever it is you need to do. Because when that moment comes, you don't have time to get ready. So however you look on Friday, you're gonna look that way on Monday. It's not gonna matter. Magically change over the weekend and whatever energy you are, it's gonna that's the energy you're giving.

So stay ready to be ready because when that door opens, you gotta kick it down. Whatever your dream is, whatever you're doing, but you gotta be ready. Catch it. You heard it right here in the industry from the one and only Mrs Vanessa Bell. Callaway, Thank you, queen, Thank you up. Stay ready? Did you catch it? You know, I've heard folks say often times that if you stay ready, you ain't gotta get ready. That's the truth. And catch this.

You're gonna have to stay ready because you're gonna consistently keep going. And you know you're gonna keep going because every day that you have breath in your lungs and you don't stop until that breath is gone. So I don't care what you're going through. Understand you're gonna have to keep on keeping harm. But I hope you enjoyed that conversation because I sure did. If you haven't checked out Saints and Centers, that you were probably on the edge of your seats about to check it out. Because

this are real people. These are real folk that's just trying to make it through life. And that's each and every one of us. It doesn't matter what's your background. I mean, look at them. They come from a line of folks in the church, and you see what's going on.

So I hope we am coming to this and stopping the whole notion of trying to judge people, trying to hold people that are at a different standards, and stop putting so much pressures on people to do because at the end of the day, it's all about loving who you are and walking authentically in who you are, and also understanding that even though with Lady Ella right, she comes with the circumstances of all her disadvantages that she looks at, and she still is able to be a

mother to her children because sometimes we operate and what we don't have so that we can get to what we do want. And I want you to keep in mind. Let that I've said that before and I'll say it again. Your location is not your destination. But also keep in mind that how you do anything, it's how you'll do everything. You have the power to create the new narrative on your line. Okay, And and just like Vanessa Belle Callaway said, there is a narrative that's going to unfold with Lady Ella,

her boat is about to get roped, buckle up. And then also she talks about all of her countless other projects. So I'm sure you'll want to dive in and you want to check that out. Okay, I hope you enjoyed this episode. I am so excited about this journey that um I'm on. So make sure that you check out Saints and Centers on Bounce TV Sunday Nights Central. Okay, don't say I didn't tell you. All right, Well, I want to say thank you for joining me on this

journey of my dreams. This is Vitamin D. This is what it is about. Come on, somebody, we'll set a light on things because we gotta live life on purpose and for a purpose. Huh. We gotta live while we're still alive. Huh. So check out these other episodes, and if you feel compelled that perhaps you'd like to be a guest, or if you'd like to submit a letter because you need some advice, email me Vitamin D at

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