A Million Dollar Dream (w/ Cayman Kelly)

There are trees all over the Northern hemisphere that are starting to transition from some of the fall to change into those beautiful fall colors that make the season such joy. But what is a tree? It's big, it's bold, It takes in the sun and puts out oxygen. But what did it take for the tree that towers one hundred plus feet above you to get that tall? It had to start somewhere, right, just like all of us. It started small, a little acorn in the ground, covered in

at what just seems like dirt at first sight. But you realize that dirt and that fertilizer that doesn't smell too good. Terms and roots begin to go deep and the tree grows tall, just like you, just like me, just like everybody. See, whenever we start to chase our dreams, we may be small at the start and a bit uncomfortable, but with just the right fertilization and life a k Ain't Vitamin D, we take our dreams and aspirations to

the next level. Just wait and you'll see which brings me to our guest today, Caman Kelly Came and Kelly is a nationally syndicated radio personality on Serious XMS, Heart and Soul, and he's also the voice for Paul one O five in New York, The Breakfast Club, ESPN Radio, Bounced TV, Monday Night Football, Hello Somebody. The list goes on and on, and he joins me to talk about his new book, From six Dollars an Hour to a

Million Dollar Dream. Now. If you're a dreamer, an entrepreneur, or simply just want to be inspired for what's next to come in your life, you might want to check out this conversation. Came and talks about how you have to nurture your gift and how you pursued your dream. Look this wind, there's no joke and the process isn't easy, but you realize that your decisions determine your outcome. We discussed topics like knowing yourself. I wanted to take the

ultimate risk and putting in the work. So without further ado, it's time but your dose a vitamin daymin dy right with me and get excited about salutations, greetings, greetings, came and callie. Hello, Hello, Hell, they will be one. How alt thou? I'm doing well. I was just sitting here when you said we was gonna be live. I was about to go, um cut my hair. I don't have

time now. Yes, and by the looks, you have a lot to get rid of, you know, I see actually a little patch right there, like on the side by your ear. Not at ain't a patch. I got it toughed in. I just chucked it in for the day and I'm gonna get back to it later. What's going on with you? How you feeling? First off, let me say happy belated birthday. Oh cruel please, it's but it's about the time for my next birthday. You lady, listen, you can't be late when you on time, no matter

no matter what. Okay, you know we're blessing that We're blessing this evolution around the Sun. We're blessing the birth of this conversation we're about to have about your new book, like this is this is an exciting time, came. I just want to make sure you know this for the happy Birthday greeting related so listen. Thank you for making time out of your busy schedule to talk to me about this gift that you have blessed every dreamer, entrepreneur,

or somebody that is looking for a purpose. Thank you for inviting me. I appreciate the opportunity to speak about it and and this this gift that we're referring to, Mr Book and some titles from A six dollar an hour, from six dollars an hour, it's a million dollar dream, yes, law okay, man, man, you're a millionaire now see you can't be counting the money now you've said it right there in the title a million Are you a millionaire? It's a million dollar dree. I didn't say I was

a millionaire, okay, because I was really excited. I was like wait, and I'm like I'm thinking of it. I'm looking at your catalog. You're voicing for Power one or five one. You just got Espen Radio and countless of other stations across the nation along with being a syndicated radio personality. I was like, you know, what, are you still voicing for Bounce TV as well? Yeah, I'm voiced for Bounced as well. So honestly speaking, I could definitely

see how you could be a millionaire. Huh. So, honestly speaking, I can definitely see how you could be a millionaire. Now that I sit back and look at it, well, I'm blessed, I'll say that. Okay, So just real quick, okay, So whether or not you want to actually confirm about the millionaire part, the fact that you can even put that in the centence that your money can even keep up with a millionaire, what does it feel like? I

was good? You know, I mean, I've always dreamed about being in this space because you know that that whole title actually sums up the entire journey that I went on to get to the point where I'm at. So six dollars an always representative of my real pay. That's what I was getting paid when I first started working out of college and major radio, major market radio, six

dollars an hour. But the thing is I only got paid for four hours a day, but I worked all day well, you got paid twenty four dollars a day, twenty four dollars a day, and I had to pay taxes out of that money, so you like to dollars you walked away with. So it really it really dwindled down. You work every day. It was it was like it was a struggle. But you know, the thing is when you're passionate about something that you can see where you're going.

I just needed a step in stone. So I knew it would turn into something if I put in the work. So if somebody to present me the opportunity, even if it was six dollars, because at first I was doing it for free, you know, so six dollars was a raise. And you know, I think that's how you really know when you love something, because it's like the money doesn't matter. You're so in the moment that every moment and it is just like that high that's you know, Yeah, you're right.

I just enjoyed being around it. It It didn't matter whether I was getting paid, and nobody knew I wasn't getting paid. So by the time a position was offered to me, when they wrote the figure down on this little like the side of this newspaper, and showed it to me and I looked at us it what's that for? He said, for the year. I was like, what it was like six thousand and some our dollars that was in this figure.

So it breaked. It broke down the six dollars an hour for four hours a day, meaning if they paid me for a full eight hour a day, I'd been making three dollars an hour. Wow. And don't will tell you the truth. It was a it was a real struggle, I mean, like for real, for real struggle, because you know, they always wanted you to be around, but you know, sometimes it was like am I gonna eat? Or am I gonna put some gas in the cars? I don't

go to work? I mean, like for real, I looked at the ash traders when they were still putting ash trays and cars, trying to find some change because I ain't smoke, so threw much change in the ash tray. So some days I was in there looking trying to see if I can get me a gallon of gas. Stop. Stop. I think it's a standard story for people in radio,

like especially because it's passionate career. You love it because I can recall when I would be at the radio station from five am, and I literally wouldn't leave to eight or nine, because, like you said, standing up there is how you got the gems, how you got the opportunities, how you got the experiences. So tell us how how was that for you? You came in there, you're making six dollars an hour? What were you doing? What was I doing? When you running the board? Where you're working

in promotions? How did you even know that there was money to be made in radio when they showed you si dollars an hour? I'm surprised you didn't be like a bat out of hell and run for the hills. But you know what I didn't, I didn't know how much it was gonna pay. So so the way I started in radio in the first place, I was in a music group a buddy of my my buddy Corey. We were doing music together because my mom always wanted me to take music lessons. I wasn't really interested. She

wanted me to play piano. But back then, you know, it was kind of taboo for a man to be playing the piano because it was all women that you saw. So I don't want to playing a piano. So we had a piano at homes. I actually taught myself how to play it, and then I started doing all the music and he was good with putting lyrics together. So that's how we formed this group. We ended up doing like cable TV and all kinds of stuff. We was doing performances and he calls the radio station. One day

he called me. He said, about to be on the radio, about to be on the radio. So when I turned on the radio, I heard him rapping about the promotion that they were doing. What he who was on the air. He invited us to the radio station. So when I went, that's when I fell in love with I was like, oh my gosh, I gotta do this because already I already loved music. That's number one, and just to watch the magic happened behind the scenes. I was like, man, I gotta do this. And the production guy was like,

he said, man, how old are you? I was like, I was in T grade. Voice is crazy because my voice had already changed by it and you know, like back then radio was like all about the voice. Not much now it's the personality because it's not the same animal as it used to be back in the day. So once I got bit by that bug. That's all I wanted to do. After that, I gotta do some radio. I gotta do radio, So I went. I ended up going to college and always kept that contact with the

radio station. I did radio in college, and by the time I graduated, I was looking for a job. I couldn't find anything, because you know, it's one of those things where they tell you the proper things for you to do, or the things that we think you must do.

You know, successful graduate, you go to college, then you come out and get a job that wasn't working out too well, you know, trying to get a job because there was really no experience and everybody always wants to know what have you done already instead of taking you on to try to mold you and seeing some type of potential, and you in the first place where they are willing to take a chance on you. So so

fast forward a little bit. There was a job fair that this radio station was doing, and I was cool with the the receptionists. So she said, we're doing a job fair tomorrow. She said, come up and you can ride with us. So I get there, don I get there early. This is how I know, like God was in this plan right. So I get there early and they already gone. So I'm sitting in the parking like like, man, I donna drove all the way up here and I ain't what happened. So I was like, man, I'm already here.

So I went to the front door. There was a security phone in the front of the build and I picked the phone up. Albid the one who invited me in the radio station, and I was in tenth grade. He was on the air, so they're coming out, come up, and I'm talking to him and I was telling him I was trying to find a job and all this thing. He said, well, I don't really have a job to give you, but you can certainly help me out. I can use some help around my show, like answering phones,

take a request, stuff like that. Be a great way to get your foot back in the door. So that's what I started doing it. In the process, I was teaching school that was a substitute. They offered me a full time so I was like, nah, I take the substitute thing. That way, I can kind of control my schedule so I can go when I need to. So being at the radio station, they started to notice me around, you know, and they started asking questions like can you

do this? And I was moving chairs and all kinds of stuff that I didn't necessarily want to do, but everything that you had to do so somebody can lay eyes on there exactly. So eventually people learned who I was so so and in that position came over one day when I came from school. I came in the studio and somebody was sitting in my chair. So there was an intern in there, and the intern coordinated come in and tell him to the position open in promotions.

I suggest you go back there and drop your name. That's how you taught, right, couldn't whisper go back there and drop your name so you can try to get that job. So I heard it. I went to Now, mind you you won't believe this, but I grew up shy, and you were not shy. I was shot, like to the point where I wouldn't ask you to go to the bathroom, how to speak, I can't clean up later. It was like that kind of shot that this guy

was kind of timid like. And I saw it because I've recognized the introvert, you know what I'm saying, Because I was like that. But I learned how to cope and how to deal with stuff. So I was like, I'm not gonna get nothing if I don't say nothing. So I went back there, hold on, wait a minute, say that again, because I think that is very important a journey of any dream or just existence of life. How closed mouths don't get fed. There you go, that's exactly what I was about to say. Old folks said

it best closed I was, don't get fed. And that's it, you know, because because I know that was a part of my personality. But being shot wasn't getting me anything. Because you know, having a gift doesn't mean anything if nobody knows about it. This book right here done. It took me two years to finish this book. If I don't say anything about it, how people know exist same thing with your gift that's inside of you. So by me being shot, I realized things about me that I

gotta overcome some of this stuff. And you're like, and I still suffer with it too. You know. I don't like small groups of people. I feel intimidated when I walk into everybody staring at me. But I learned how I have coping mechanisms that I used to overcome it. So I walk in the room, I cracked jokes. They start laughing. I feed off of their energy. Now that the moodest like to me. So that's the way that I deal with stuff. So the same thing with getting

that job. I man, I'm getting this job. So they said tomorrow we're going on the streetead so I come from this who I'm fine, I see AM about to pull off. I said, wait, wait, wait. I jumped in with him. We went to the mall. I was and everybody's going, y'all doing something passing our stuff. And they let me call into the radio station because I knew I would get it if they just give me the opportunity. So that's when I came in and they said, we want to give you the job. I thought I was

great to make me some money. Though I can't live. I thought it was gonna make a decent amount of money at least. So when I saw that figure, it was a little shocking, but I still kept telling myself, this is an opportunity that I can turn this into something. All I need is to step in stall. But once these opportunities are presented, what are you gonna do with it? About the money? To me, it wasn't all about the money. I think that's interesting when we talked like about a

lot of entrepreneurs and just dreamers in general. I think one of the things that is like a block is that thinking about the money and my own thing is always like I may not have it all right now materialized,

but it's coming, and that's what kind of energizes. But I'm just interested to know why do you feel like it's so very important to make sure that you say yes and seize every opportunity because you if you have a desire to do something, you can always turn that stepping stone into something bigger, you know what I mean. And I kind of used the analogy with you know people when they say, man, it was just sunny. Now it was raining, but the rain had to start somewhere.

It is justn't come out of anywhere like you expect, like you say, man, it rain came out of nowhere. Nor did came out of the clouds, the nimbus clouds that have been building up for a long long time and they were swelling and they was waiting for that moment to first. So it's the same thing with any kind of opportunity, and it's I love that analogy because I ask God, I'm just like I want my blessings to rain down on me, because it's like, you know, when you get that water in your right now, you

know I took it a little left. I just think about that's what life and things start to grow, and honestly think about it. You know, if we think about our blessings are in this cloud and we keep putting in the work waiting for the season, can you imagine the abundance and the overflow. Nothing can exists without water, that's exactly. And speaking of water, there was I was reading through my book yesterday and there's this analogy because if you start doing something and you can give up,

how much closer are you to your drink? You're not. You're not going to get any closer, So why not keep going? And then I used to talk about stagnation

because stagnation ultimately ends up in death. You kill yourself if you stagnate, you die, right, because living things grow and they move and they change, right, And think about it like this, though, if somebody brought you some beautiful fresh flowers, they were sitting in the vase and you had some water in there, but they sat for a while, that water didn't have any movement, and it started to stagnate. When you take them flowers out of that water stinks,

you can't drink it. It's not good for anything anymore because it's stagnated. And it's the same thing with your life. If you stagnate, you're not worth any value. You're not doing anything, You're not helping anybody. You know, like and I. You know, I'm a firm believer. I'm not on this journey just for myself. And we need to surround ourselves with people that can motivate us. And I talk about it all the time. A matter of fact, last night

I was talking to UM. I was talking to r L from next Yes, step back it that's coming close, talking about his journey and a lot of times when you look at people, and I started to notice a pattern. A lot of times when you look at people and you deem them to be successful, you don't know what they're dealing with internally. That's why I success can be defined in so many different ways. It's not necessarily all

about finances all the time. Success You say you wanted to be at home with your kids, so your job allows you two hours where you could be at home but your kids, and you can define that as being successful. I've achieved that goal of doing what I wanted to do for my family, So you know, I don't think we can always equate success to being finances. If the money comes, then cool, that's the bonus part of it. Yeah, I look at I want my success to be just like peace. I just want to feel good. I want

to do what I love. And I guess also with the freedom. But even as you were saying, like you have to put your dreams out there, came and we have to be honest. There's this thing of judgment that

we all fear. And it's interesting and I say this to myself even as I say, like, you have to put yourself out there and you fail your way to success, you know, And as you talk about the stagnation, that procrastination will hit me because us I'm thinking about all my imperfection, everything that isn't right, somebody is not good enough or that whole perfect you know context, And just like how you were saying, like to get over that aspect, was it easy for you to just put yourself out there? No,

it really wasn't. And you know, and and and that's part of my natural makeup and my personality and me. And there was a whole lot of stuff that I self sabotaged myself, hear myself out of being successful. I wanted it, but I think I was told no so much that I just expected people to tell me no. So if a yes came, I'm like, whoa, I'm not ready. And I give you a prime example. And you know,

I got stories for days. So I'm talking to my my friend Keith Robinson, who was an actor, right, So I was telling him, I said, man, do you know I auditioned for a soap opera one time? Right? So I walked in the room. I'm nervous as hell, dressed to kill, though I've got my suit all right. And I walked in and they introduced me to the young lady that I'm gonna be reading the opposite of. And I said, I already know her, and everybody was like, you do, and I said yeah, I said, girl, you

don't remember me. I went to kid of going with you looking at me like I don't know this fool. Like that's how everybody was looking at me, like I don't know this dude. But really, I was doing that for me because I was breaking the ice in the room so I could get comfortable with them. So then when I was like, I'm just playing with y'all, they fell out laughing and girls like as oh, oh my gosh.

She was like, I didn't think you were Jewish, she said, because I went to school with all Jewish people, Like yeah, that was funny. Look, we started doing the read. They give me the script and I'm looking through the script and it was a part of their way at the fuss like like the hell with you? Like, and I'm in it right, And the lady was like, oh my god, that was great. Do it again. So I do it again, and she said do it one more time, just for

just for giggles. So I do it again and she pulls me to the side to talk to me right, and she said, oh my gosh. She was like, you are really good. If you ever take an acting classes before, and I said nah, And she said you should really consider taking acting classes because it'll just enhance what you already have naturally. I said, okay. She's like, what your body looks like? That's where I work out twice a day and she and she made me take my suit

jacket off, and she said, yeah, you're really toned. She said, you know what, I can't guarantee anything, but she said, if you come to l A. She said, you don't live here in l A, do you? And I said no? And she said, well, if you move to l A, I can almost guarantee that somebody will pick you up during pilot's season. And I said, shoot out, moved to l A right now, right, I'm talking trash right. He is cracking up, laughing at my jokes. I have no

idea who this woman is. Right, So I leave the audition and I'm out in the hallway and the security dude say, hey, man, let me. I'll let you for a second. I said, what's up? He said, listen, I don't know what it is that you have. He said, but do you know who that lady was that she was talking to us? And I don't have any idea, he said, man, that woman is the head of NBC Daytime. Look, he said, I've worked with her for years and I

never heard her laugh. He said, brother, you've got something special. I'm telling you. He said, you got something special, and and all of that stuff that I absorbed. I went home and spared myself to death. I was saying, I can't do that. I can't do that because you know, we're fearful of change. But only it's only a few people that can really put themselves out there that don't care, like I don't care what happened. I'm I'm gonna try.

There's only a few of those. But it's a muscle to exercise, absolutely, absolutely, So you know, our fear of chain age helps hold us back, you know. And I'm gonna tell you something, and I write about this in the book as well. It's all about a network and this is what I was touching on before, and and people that can actually motivate you. You can't tell everybody your business because you're gonna have some secret haters. And

that's another chapter in the book. Haters and naysayers that don't want to see you succeed for whatever reason, they may want to change places with you. I want to be where don is. I don't want to see her uh succeed over top of me. I want to get there first, you know. So you've got those people, and then you've got naysayers as well, nay sayers of people who don't necessarily hate you. They actually care about you, and they don't want you to get hurt. They don't

want to see you get hurt. And I know Don wants to go on this journey. I know John Don wants to go out of the country, but I just don't want you to do that. I don't think that's a proper thing for you to do. That's the kind of things that you hear from naysayers. So you know, like and I listed my parents is being naysayers in

the book. They care, but you know, like with the competition and the things that I wanted to do, they didn't necessarily see me fitting into that because listen and listen, and I don't mean this is not this to my parents. I love my folks to death. They have been very supportive of me, and even more so now that I've proven that I can actually do it, They're proud to death. And then I've heard the same story over and over again. Molly music. Molly said his job lovingly fired him because

he was chasing his music dream. It stud had a scholarship to play football, and he said, I went home and I told my dad, look, I'm about to do this music. It says far like what you ain't feeling me around here sucking up my air with no music. You know, it's like people can't see your vision. They don't see what's internally inside of you. So let me ask you this, Do you tell people you're dream there? Because they say life and death are in the power of the time, you have to speak life of seen

your dreams. You have to profess it. So like do you say something or not? Do you tell people about your dreams? It depends on who it is because and like I keep on getting off the off the subject, but building a network of people who actually understand we're going through, you know, And that for me happened to be my wife, Like this is the biggest blessing I've ever had. She was the one who was my cheer

leader and pushing me into doing things. And when I had started doing voice overs and a lot of this stuff starts to feel like what they I felt like it was an accident. But look how I stumbled upon this. But really, when you started to look back at it, you see how life is really like a puzzle and all of those pieces start to fit together. Because this is I wanted to do for years and I went.

I left my job and went to B E T. This is when um serious sex with XM sat like radio became a thing you and BT was doing a third party channel for XM, and I got hired to do that for me being there and we was meeting with creative services people on the TV side to find out what they had going on. So by sitting in those meetings, these people got to know me. Then they said, can you voice something for us? See what I'm saying being in at the right time, so there's an opportunity

for something. And I taught myself how to use the software and put production together. So here I am doing all the B E T S radio commercials. I'm voicing them. I'm doing the production for him. That was a check. Next thing I know, I'm the voice of b ET. That was another check. Then BT had Digital Networks. I was the voice for that stuff too, so I had a retainer from that. And then the job folks up. I just got married, built the house, right, But I don't see none of that. I'm like, oh my god,

I lost my job. Oh my god, just got married. I just got this house. What I'm are you going to do forgetting that I had started something new. I got these checks coming in from that, so my bills were never late. But watch how this fist together. Dog. So I don't have a full time job anymore, but I'm still working and it frees me up. So I started traveling from DC to New York every week, like two or three times a week. I ain't have enough money get on the trains. I was catching the bush.

That was a nightmare. Who I know that story? Yes, I do, laying down in the seat like they sleep. Make come on, man. Uh. So I did this right, And I trained with one of the best voice over guys in the world in New York or US in New York. So he made me audition for him right, and the man's dude ain't gonna never call me. He called me the next day. He talked to me for like forty five minutes, he said. He said, Um, you have a great voice, he said, and I can tell

you have a lot of potential. But you don't use your your tongue of your teeth when you speak. Hold your breath mm hmm. He said, do you ever realize you hold your breath? And I said, no, I didn't, But you know where that came from. He came from me doing a slow jam show. He said, all you need to do is talk. Your voice is already deep, but no jam show. This is what you do. Yeah, you know we slow jam is on the red light specially you know that you you put on so yeah,

and I started. It became a habit. So when he pointed it out, that's when I noticed it. Oh my god, I do hold my breath and let be out of breath when I talked. He said, all you need to do is really just open it, open your mouth and talk. And then he said, you're a great mimic because I would repeat everything that he said. He's man, you you got to potential to be one of the greatest in the business. So he said, I tell you what, I gotta class that I'm for me. He said, I blew

my class out to work one on one with you. Yeah, so he worked one on one with me. But here here's the thing done. They keep in mind I had lost my job at the time when I met him, so of course this is gonna cost me something. So here's where my wife comes in. Did you sign them for your class yet? Nah, ain't done it yet. I gotta make sure stuff around he has taken care of first, and then I'll get to that extracurricular. My wife's always been disciplined with money. I spent everything that I had.

She was like, I gotta check that I'm signing up. I said, no, no no, no, no, no, you don't gotta do that. Don't do that. She was like, no, this is an investment for us. And she gave me that that check and I signed up for that class, and you know, I got my voice over demos and stuff together and and this is and I went to a marketing class in New York. Right to do was like he said, man, he said, I'm gonna listen to your demo.

We're gonna listen to everybody's demos. And he said, you know, just give me some time to get back to you because I'm really really busy and blah blah blah. So I'm like, okay, I ain't want to play my my demo in front of nobody because I ain't want nobody critique it. It took me for ever to put it together because I was I was critiquing in myself, like oh no, that ain't good. I wanna do that over let's do this over right here. Finally, I just had to give it to somebody and let them do it,

because otherwise I wouldn't have never done it. So she says, um, So he calls. He actually called me the next day. He said, oh my god, Now mind few. He told me he's really really busy and call me, like, give him some time at least four weeks or so. He calls me the next day he said, oh my god, this demo is absolutely amazing. I mean from the graphics on the outside of it to what's on the inside. I mean, this is really really you could certainly work

New York. You could certain work New York. Let's see what man. I kept playing that message over and over again, like no, dog, and you're serious. No, And that's where you start to start to denounce yourself when stuff really starts to happen, like no, this can't be. And I give you another scenario, and this is how crazy things that are. So all these years that I'm doing b ET stuff, I'm working in my own place, like so

I don't really see people like that, you know. So fast forward, I get an agent signed a dumb buck wall in New York. So I do this audition, right. I did a bunch of auditions that day, and one particular audition that I was supposed to do had to be over the phone, and I kept forgetting the call. So the first night, I forget the call and I don't worry about a call tonight, and leave your audition on the phone. So like the voicemail, Yes, man, you're gonna be blown away watch this. So so they said,

leave your audition on the phone. I do all these auditions to record them, and I'm geting ready go to sleep. About two o'clock in the morning, I forget. I said, oh, I gotta do that audition. So I grabbed the script and I grabbed the phone, and I kept hitting three to re record it, right, you know you hit three to listen to your message and rerecorded, So I kept it. That's it. Then I went, I'm sorry, this is the first thing that you have to hear earlier this morning,

because that's that's marketing one oh one. Because nine times i'd attend if they're casting for somebody and me like, we want deep voice too, So everybody in the room gonna have a deep voice. So what's gonna make me stand out from everybody else. So that's when I'm like, I'm gonna say something in front about that. I'm sorry, this is the first thing you have to hear the morning. But and then I read the audition. I ended up getting the gig. What it was for TV Land. Yes,

I started voicing everybody Loves Raymond promos for TV Land. Right, Oh my mind, you're done. This is the first time that I'm working outside of my own space. But I walk in, I'm looking the park, I'm green as I don't know what men is somebody in the studio you ain't gonna never know. I active professional. I went in. It was like, man, my boss loves your voice. After you finish reading these promos, can you do something for

us if you have time. I'm thinking, man, I got all the time in the world, Like this promo gonna take us fifteen minutes to knockout. So so when we finish, do you have you How are you looking all time? I said, I'm good. What's your need? So they pulled this thing up on the screen, right, and I'm looking at the screen and it's a new show. They got Betty White and Valerie Burton Elly in a minute, right, So I'm looking at he said, do you think you

could do? It? Was a scratch track on the dude, sound like I had to do to It's like in Cleveland. So that's the way scratch tracks sounded. Somebody that just putting their voice on it. What they think is folks sound like. So I'm like, yeah, I can knock that out for you. He said, cool, let me get your script. So I get the script and I jumped in the booths and start reading. So he said, oh man, it was awesome. He said, I'll call you the way he said, my boss nights and they want to use you. Should

I call you? Should call your agent? That said, don't matter whatever, And he said, I call you either way, even if they don't use you. I said, cool, that's fine. So I left. I got a call the next day. Man, he loved you. So I did the whole egg campaign for Hide in Cleveland, which was like their number one, one of the biggest greatest shows that they ever had

on it. I did the whole promo cap wh we did is that everything in this journey is this after you've kind of like beneficial and you have an agent or a manager, like where are you at that process, and I had an agent. By that, I had an agent, but you know, like I didn't start working right away. I did to be stuff for years. But you know, like all the auditions that I went on, I used to get frustrated, man like that, ain't land and nothing.

But you know a lot of times when you think you're read and you're not always ready, and then when you start to look back and you said, Okay, I see I had to develop that skill right there so I could get to this point. Ain't no different than here's another story for you. Brian McKnight. Brian McKnight a record deal and he was nineteen. His first album may

come out to he was twenty one. He had developing to do, you know, And a lot of times people as songwriters, if they don't live no life, they don't really have anything to write it. Oh, talk about it, think about it, you know what I mean? And you know what this makes me think of something I've read in your book You talked about and this is something that I'm working on, and I feel like anybody that's out there with a dream can probably attest to it

as well. You talk about this moment, how you don't believe that you should work then live, but you should work and live. And just like you know, that whole notion of taking time. It's just like people tell me all the time. I want to motivate and inspire, but donn if you sit behind and you're working all day, you have to get a moment to live, to bring life into the drain, to have something to connect and

to relate to. But I'm just curious with you were looking at the amount of success you have garnered thus far. How what do you mean a balance? Like I get it when people say you're not going to get eight hours a day. People are giving you accolades because you're producing with Hello, I had to produce and take time for it and in order for it to manifest to what you see. M hmm. Yeah. I mean there's there's a lot of work that goes into it. So the

balance comes comes here. Now now watch watch what happened. And this is a prime example because and it goes back to my wife again. You know, I'm working every day and I'm coming home, I'm staying up doing beant stuff late at night. And we had our first child, so he was like all this stuff and I was working on another radio station when I left BANT so I was like, I'm drained, right. So there's a lady that worked at BT with me name miss Pat ms.

Pat gave me a book to give to my wife called Choosing to Cheat, And I've referenced that book because what that talks about is that there's only twenty four hours in a day, and you've got all these things. Just like you said, it's all of these things that you gotta get done. But and it talks about all

of these CEOs that may be traveling. You know, they're making all this money, but they got a family that's sitting at home that they're not spending any time with just because you've got all this money and stuff like who knows you? And then in the United States they talk about the stress level that most people carry because they work all the time. And then you look at other countries where they take a cs today, just break down and take a nap in the middle of the day.

This stress level isn't the same, you know, So this book is talking about that very thing. It's only twenty four hours, which is not a lot of time. You still gotta sleep, you still got people that you gotta talk to and spend time with. So who are you going to cheat? It's basically what it's saying. So when you when you look, when you really look at it, And my wife would asked me this all the time, and I'll go to work and I started doing for it. So it she was like, I don't understand why you're

still going to work every day. Like it doesn't make sense, you know, because the reality is I was making more money being at home than I was going to work every day. It caused you to put gas in the car, you find someone at the park, and every day I'm buying lunch and I'm gonna get me something out of the vendom machine. Let's just be clear. Okay, I like snacks. Okay, So it could if you really think about it. It's

an expense to go to work. So then I had to pay more money because somebody watching my kids, you know, so I can have more time school and long enough. And then I got driving traffic to get back home pick everybody up, you know what I'm saying. So so so when she kept saying, I don't understand why you're still going to work every day, Like your life could be much more comfortable and what you're doing. I said, well, you know how many video still feeds my spirit. I

still love what I do. I don't agree with everything that they do, but I mean, where else am I going to increase my network like this? The people that I meet, I'm talking to artists like these people are my friends now? So I said, you know, and then I started thinking about We was driving at church one day. She was driving, I was on the passenger's side, and

she said this. She said, Man, I'm telling you, I really believe God wants to bless you holding on one and he can't bless you unless you let go because you gotta make room. Man. You know what's funny. You know a lot of times when people are close to you, you don't listen to them. It takes somebody else to give you the same message. And then you're like, oh, that's a confirmation right there. But even though I heard her, I didn't say anything right away. But I started like

really thinking about that thing. And she would ask on a regular like how many stations do you need before you actually leave your job? So I a shout out of random number. I was like, if I got six, I would leave to mind you at my first radio station, and I never even thought about doing voice So was that radio? Because all I wanted to do was be on the radio. I didn't realize that was like even a thing not for me. I didn't think about it.

So the first station I ended up getting was Power one O five point one in New York in the country. Hold on, wait a second. I read that, and what I thought was so interesting is the gentleman that actually connected you with that opportunity? Yeah, man, Quasi, Quasi actually put together my voice over demo. Yes, I was in New York. I was sitting there with my my good

friend Carina, she's on air in Texas. But I was in the studio with Quasi and Quasi set there and I was like, you know, just like how you said the cheerleaders and what you said bout on your network with and that ultimately desermines your network, is that Quasi took time helped me curate my my whole demo, which actually is what I used to an agent out here in Los Angeles. I just thought that was a very

good connection. Yeah. So you know, like and the way that I met Quasi was through somebody else that I befriended from serious ex named Brian Appleman. Is always looked out for me, really always, and you're like, and I still give him his props to this day. I mean, you are a good friend because you know, a lot of times people say they're gonna do something for you, but they never really do it. Bringing for you, girl, that's cliche. You ain, you're really saying, no prayer for

me in most instances. And you when you hear songs about my grandmama pray for me, I gotta praying grandmother, right, that's what you're here. You for him to take that initiative to like introduce me to somebody and what it turned into. And you know about having a New York station, uh, you know, like a top rated New York station. People tend to compyicast, you know what I mean, what do

we want to sound like that station? Right there? I started picking up other stations because I was associated with that station. I mean it was coming. I wasn't even advertising anything, and I would get emails. I picked up a station in Milwaukee. Then I picked up a station in El Paso. And this was like, oh, while I was on sick leave because I had herdia surgery. And then my last child was born while I was off, and I'm getting this stuff and I'm doing TV land

at the same time. So this when stuff started really popping. So then I told my wife and I said, man, I said, this is gonna be it. In December, I'm gonna leave my job. So by the time I went back to work it was July. Man December became so fast. I got scared and I thought about like Red nigg and I was like, I ain't gonna do it. I'm gonna stay on this job because I felt like if I go in and I'm gonna tell them leave, they're

gonna let me go right then and there. And it took me a long time to say it, so I was nervous, and I finally went in and at the conversation and they and instead of them saying well you could go ahead and roll, they was trying to work with me to figure out what we could do to keep me on the air. Talk about favor right, and and that's exactly what it is. So now I do both, but I do them out of my home. You know what I'm saying. I still got my radio show and

I can still, and here's what happened. And this is what really made me believe the thing that she said when he was going to church, when she said, I believe God wants to bless you, but you just keep holding on. So when I did let go, man, it was so many things that just opened up. Remind you, I started voice and bounced TV when they in their inception when they first hit the air, I was their voice.

This contract was for six months at a contract so they said, you like we worked well together, it's to turn into a two year contract. So in that same period, I was voicing this narration for a crime show and I went to this lady studio to record it and she said, oh my god, your voice is amazing. And she said to make sure I get your contact information

before you leave out of here. And I said, okay, that's cool, and she said no, no, a a matter of fact, give it to me now because I would hate for you to do the session and you walk out and I never have contact with you again. This lady, her name is Cheryl. I write about Sheryl in the book Too.

Cheryl did what she said she was gonna do. I was about to go in Walmart one night, and I checked my email before I got out of the car, and I got an email from a lady from TV one and said she had listened to my demos and Cheryl had referred me to her, and she said, I think you'd be great for Unsung promos. Wow, everybody short notice, but I want to book you tomorrow. What all right?

Wait the television show Unsung. Ye oh my gosh. Another connection. Okay, first in turning Get Serious x M or when it was excellent at the time. Then Quasi you know, helped us in different degrees with our voice over. And then you know, I used to work at the production company that actually produced the episodes for Unsong called a Smith. Hey, Cam, I'm just excited because if you're like a millionaire, that means I'm on the right track. That's awesome. Look, and

then I end up getting the TV one thing. So I get hired to do the promos for Unseung, and then all the producers started hitting me up. So I'm doing and then I ended up being damn near the voice of TV one. Wow, it was the end of my contract with Bounce. Right, I get this email, I'm about to go at church one. Damn always check the email before I go in somewhere. It was like, quick question,

are you the voice of TV one? Oh, I can tell this Arabia prop So I didn't respond right away and then um and I said, no, I'm not the voice of TV one. There's other voices. I just like I'm dominant, but I ain't the only voice that's on there. So they had a problem with the amount of work

that I was doing for TV one. So here here's with a plastic amen from They offered me an exclusive contract, so you know, like if I got to leave this, then of course you gotta pay me for the money that I'm a miss so I don't need to see nothing else that That contract was hefty. It reminds me of this song. Don't be surprised when I ask you what a cash ship. It's in your pocket, it's in your account, Run me my money. Oh you know what, I felt like I got the money. I didn't even

see it, but I felt through your excitement. Man, listen, I mean, it was so many things that were just opening up beyond that that it was. It was absolutely amazing to see things unfold. You know, when you just take a chance and and step out on faith. But you said yes, Cam And that's the thing that's so amazing. You said yes, you showed up and you were consistent and just reading your book, like first of all, I mean you talk about going from six dollars an hour

to a million dollar drain. I can only imagine, like you said before, about the naysayers and the challenges. But it attests to the fact that when I think of you know, Ernest William or William Ernest Henley, and he talks about how you are the master of your faith, the captain of your soul. You have to really take initiative to take charge of your dreams and you can't

lose sight. And you have to want your dreams as bad as you want to breathe, because you understand that is your why and you talk about that as well in the book. And you know, can you tell us just a little bit why it is so important to make sure that your dream aligns with your purpose? Oh my gosh, man, you just said it. You said it. You know where you said it. You know your your dream and your purpose line. You know, because when you really start to sit back and you think, like how

am I going to help my family? How am I going to help people around me? Because I'm a firm believer don that we don't just get blessed to keep it to ourselves. And I tell you this all the time, even not some conversations, that there's no better seeing that you can do than to invest in another human life. So how is this gift that I have going to help somebody else? And then my subtitle on this book

is the process. It isn't easy, but your decisions determine your outcome, you know, which is which is very important for you to keep in mind. Yes, there's some days that's frustrating. You know, I stay up late because I had so much stuff to do, but you know, like I make sure I go upstairs and I spend some time with my my family and you know, like in the kids of our virtual school now, so with opportunity because I'm home, like I don't have to find anybody

else to come in. I'm here. If they need me, all they gotta do is text me and call me and head upstairs. So you know, like that's a blessing within itself. And you know, another thing that I say to you a lot of times, you know, when we try to fit situations and that you try to force them to fit. And an example, you know, for for a long time, you know though, I was great being on the radio for sometime, and I would look at other people like, dang man, they get all the opportunities,

like people call them. Nobody was calling me like that, something like dang man, am I not that good? And then one day when things started to turn, somebody called me about doing an afternoon job. Right, man, I was trying my best to make that thing fit, but the hours were raw. It was three to seven. That's the most critical time in my house. Right, somebody need to be there. You gotta cooked dinner, kids gotta get bad,

They got homework and got stuff to do. So you know a lot of people say, man, you can get somebody just hiring nanny or something. But I don't want somebody to do something that I'm supposed to be doing. And here's where it went crazy. So I took this some this workshop at church. Right, it was called fighting

for your Family. We were fighting for And when I opened my Bible, those books, i mean those worksheets was in there, and I started to look at them like, oh my gosh, like all of these answers were in there about what I'm supposed to do. But here's with a confirmation really came. So I fixed dinner one night and I put it on the table. One of my kids like, Daddy, you're the best daddy in the world. Oh my gosh, ripped my heart. I turned around start crying.

And that's what made me realize that, like, no, man, you can't chase everything certain things that are more important. Like I said, man, I has no in the world. I can hire somebody to come in here and do what I was supposed to be doing. And I had an attorney, And you're like, man, I love this woman so much because she wasn't all about the money. She cared about me as a human. So she was like, hey, man, she said, everything's not gonna fit. Everything's not gonna fit.

She said, you know, your wife is proud of you for who you are and her being taken care of. It's not all about the money all the time. If you're not home, like, somebody got to fill it in the gap, you know what I mean. And and you're like, and I look at that as part of being success, just like I said, you know, like it doesn't always boil down to finances. Look what I'm able to do. You know, just because I took those steps of faith, I didn't know it was gonna work out like it did,

but I tried. But see, here's the thing. It's interesting that you know, as individuals, we can't talk about having faith without it being exercised, because faith without the following following through his dead. And you know, and talking about faith, whether it's in a religious sense of spiritual sense, would have you because it's all to me intertwining the same message.

If you know that things are working for your greater good and the best, and you have this vessel that you're gifted that you know if you stay aligned with it, it's gonna give you on overflow plus everyone around you.

Why would you not take that chance? And just like how you talked about in the Book of I thought this the name of this chapter was so interesting and shifting because one, I love the fact of how how supportive your wife is and how she was of your dream and how she goes on the lines of being a cheerleader. But just in the sense when we talk about navigating through the process of how you have to lose to win, and because of that losing. You find

out every way of not doing something. But then again, you know, you find out more when it comes down to your purpose and how it all just works out. Yeah, and then there's another story right there, Dog, you bring a story to remembrance. Just talk to Jimmy Jam last week and in that very chapter, because I was standing on Hollywood Boulevard having a conversation with this dude. Right. So, I don't know whether you know their story or not, but Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis they played, you know,

behind Prince and the time and all of them. Yes, Prince, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis a moon like. So they go to Atlanta to do some records for the S O S. Fan. They got caught in the snow. It couldn't get back to the tour. So Prince ended up firing them too. So I asked Jimmy, I said, Jimmy, was that the worst day of your life? Did you noticed was like a blessing in disguise. He was like, no, it was the worst day of my life. Fired from prints.

But here's the thing. Those records that they've worked on became some huge records and it's solidified them as the producers. Man, these dudes got like forty some number one records in all genres. But do you think about it, It's kind of like it lines up with the story that I'm telling you about my life. You know, they lost here, but they won here, and they're like the most sought after producers even even in their sixties, like people, they're

still doing records, you know what I'm saying. So if it hadn't have been for that, they would have never figured that out. And it's just like you said, it's

just making room. And I'm in the transition right now, like you know, this weekend, I'm getting everything me out of my house so I can build, you know, start over, start a new because basically never made, you know, a point to make room and create the opportunities to have new And it's like, you know, we asked God, you asked the universe, you asked you know whomever to give you these blessings. But where are they going to fit?

Because if you've got so much stuff stuff meaning stress, stuff meaning things in your own stuff that you have no business holding on, the stuff that you hear in somebody's ear, how could you listen. How could you hear? How can you you step into the space if everything is so tight and constricted? Yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right. You know, I deal with the same thing you like. And one of the things done that people always have

to realize that you never arrived. There's always room for improvement. Oh you know when you said that, that reminds me. Um a good friend of mine. Uh, Louis T. Powell. He says life is a journey. You know. The ernie is the experience, and the experience is the journey. Mm hmm, very true. That's like Princeton, I love you, you know, what do you say? He said? I hate you because I love you, but I can't love you because I hate you. I love you, but I can't love you

because I don't. God, that's deep, right there. I hate you because I love you, but I can't love you because I hate you. Right, he was deep. Let's just try to imagine what silence looks like, right right, No, that's amazing. I think, you know, you know, just talking about this, I think he gives a lot of opportunity. Again, and just if we're not clear, because I only name a couple of things, tell me all the things that you're doing, this voice all around in your career. Oh lord, um, oh,

don't wait, take de brother. Hey, look, I'm scrolling through the book and Our Parents by Jimmy Jams story right there, a blessing in disguise. I'm sorry. Um yeah. So so recently, man, I was really excited about this. I get a message through my website and it was it was um in regard to ESPN. And of course I looked people up before I make contact with him, make sure it's legitimate. So I look up this gentleman. I said, okay, So

I called him. We have a very brief conversation, and when I hang up the phone, he said, le's talk some time next week. So I called him back again, and I have made out some some notes or some questions that I wanted to ask, right, So I said, when you say ESPN? What he said he was looking for somebody to image ESPN Radio because he was about to revampiss thing. And I said, okay. So I said, when you say ESPN Radio, do you mean like a local ESPN of Phillips. No, no, no, no, no, man,

I mean nationwide? All found it and some affiliates. God so I went, okay, like be bound the side. I'm like this, I'll pumping it up. Give me that kids show what I was saying. So so, you know, we worked on this deal for a minute, and I had conversations to We formed a friendship for this period of time. He says, Man, if we get this done, but it's a big history. So the deal ended up working out, and I'm now the voice, the national voice of ESPN Radio over the TV two some of the shows like

on ESPN News and all that kind of stuff. So I actually turned on ESPN because I never hear stuff that I do, and I actually turned it on the other day and most of the time I'm just looking at news and I turned on ESPN. That's that's me, you know, like even after all these years, it still excites me to be able to hear something that I've done. You know. So do you remember where you were the first time you heard yourself, whether it was on television

or like the video outside of you know, being on air. Um, I'm just curious one that felt like, you know, the first stuff that I heard was was b et stuff. I did their first celebration of gospel like for the radio and then when I got the course to the TV stuff, I would see it on TV and I was like, that's me right there, you know, So that was that was exciting and still exciting to this day.

I don't think it ever gets older, tell you the true So I can just imagine what artists feel like when they hear that song or the radio for the first time. You know, that's how I feel. And then I was crying when I first heard my weekend segment. Mama, Okay, what else you got? So so then you know, like and from that, it's so crazy because I was I was sitting outside one day and this was just like

a couple of weeks ago. It's like two weeks ago, and I see this email from another gentleman and said that possible voice work was the subject line, and it says, may have some possible voice work for you and m n F. Right, So I'm like, oh, so I don't know what m in and You're like, I've seen it. But of course, like looking at it in the email, I don't know what this is. So I google m n F and it comes up Monday Night Football. I'm saying, hold on dog, so you like, you know, can we

have a conversation. What's a good number to reach you? As I emailed him back, he calls me about twenty minutes later and we talked and he said, man, I love your range. Of course, this comes from the ESPN gig. So this is how stuff like starts to snowball after a while, you know. And and this ESPN gig came from um an advertisement that I was running somewhere that I was about to take down. I said, ma, I ain't get no traction from this. I swear I was about to take it down. And then I get this

call now but it's still up there though. Don't get his west in the look he says, um he said, yeah, he man, so I got this. We got this idea because we're changing the intros to Monday Night Football. We're using um, Hank Williams Jr. Is not song is not gonna be there anymore, he said. The little Richard the State let us use rip it up so on that a little Richard put out in the fifties and they got a fan out of Richmond that's playing behind the

vocals and they're singing the backgrounds. He said, And I think your voice would be perfect for the intros. He said, you mind reading one for me? I said, now, I got you, no problem. It's I go in my studio and I cut it and send it back. He called back like he was a little hesitant. He said, I just say it whatever, whatever it is, Like, I want to work with you. I wanted to be right, so you know, if something right is, let me know, because I don't even want to come across like I'm Hollywood

to nobody, because I ain't that. So he said, yeah, I think if we tried this way to be the nail, so I'd go back and then do it. I think I got what I need. So he said, I just gotta running up the poll to see if I can get approol. Hit me back and the next day say, man, congratulations you are the new voice of Monday Night Football. Oh my gosh, So I do all the intros from Monday Night Football. Now, wait, how does it go? You say something? I said, this was for the game, but

New Orleans in the new Las Vegas Foklands. So I really like this. So keep in mind at first when you started talking about the one of it a Saturday Night Live and letter, because he said, you know, I wanted something like Saturday Night Live, so it's all the players and the graphics, and they got introduced all the star players in the piece that's playing that night, so somebody gets heard, and of course we gotta slapped the

names out. The listener says, um, it's Monday Night Football in the Desert, featuring Drew Brees, Alvin Cumara, Derek Carr, Josh Jacobs and many more. It's prime time clash in Las Vegas. It's a prime time clash in Las Vegas. Wow, that's dope dopness dot com. Yeah. I think we ended up using this line as we open up the new stadium in style, because you know, Las Veleas got the new stadium. Really I just said, yeah, like I know,

but no, I really don't know. They gotta stadium. So of course we had to nail that line as we open up the new stadium in style. Wow. Yeah, that's awesome. And I just think about, like, you know, you're talking about the trying, and you know, it's one thing to be excited about all what you're doing, but like you said, like that grind to get to that point, and how

you said the countless years and at six dollars. I'm just glad because I'm not sure all the time people realize that, especially in today's society, and while we're in this whole society where you can really make yourself what you are by putting your content out there, it's just so important that you do. And you know, really pushed fear out the way. M hmm, because like you said, when you start there and show yourself, you give people

the reason to want to invest in your acorn. Yeah. Yeah, and then you know a lot of times, man, you know, it's easier said than done, but it does take, you know, it does take those people around you to push you when you get into those boxes to do it the day and we're gonna have that, you know, because it was it was frustrating for me, and in the very beginning, you know, it was it was very difficult in the

beginning because you know, I wasn't making no money. It was a struggle, like every single day, and I was so frustrated that man, maybe I chose the wrong thing to do. And my dad used to tell me, he's the man. One day you're gonna look back at this and you're gonna laugh. And I said, what, shoot, I'd be glad when they get funny, because it ain't funny

right now. But you know, like and like I said, and I said all the time, but these are stepping stones to get somewhere, and it's not easy while you're in it because it's a job. I can talk about like the worst jobs that ever experienced in my life, but I see where they were necessary for the journey, and you're like another thing they done. You know, people they always talk about looking backwards, and people say you shouldn't, but I think it's a good place to measure where

you've come from if you look back. But if you've got to look backwards, say you gotta stay back there, then you don't need to look back. Man, I see where I came from, like this is where praising, you know what I mean, So you can look back for that. It's a it's a good measurement to see where you

have come from. And then you know also even looking back to say maybe what I've been doing all this time is the wrong thing and my gift has been showing somewhere else, because you know, sometimes you know, I talk to people because they're always trying to encourage people to go after your dreams, keep yourself alive. Like you said, you're not dead yet live. But then people say, well, I'm too old right now, it's too late. Is it ever too late? No? No? And you know what this

book says at all? When I wrote this, somebody asked me and said, what would be a good return on your investment? Excuse me? And I said, a return on my investment. It's for somebody to be inspired and actually take the initiative to do what they desire to do.

And I don't think you're ever too old. I got a friend and I and you know, like he's been going through some some too bad times in his life, and you're like, he said, man, when I see the stuff that you're doing, he's, man, I'm so mad with myself that I didn't do stuff when I was younger. And I said, brother, we can't cry over that. That time it's gone. Like, what are you going to do with the time that you have now? Because time is valuable.

If you sit all day and you don't do anything, you ain't put yourself no closer to what you want to do. You didn't do anything, and you know, and I think, like, don we have such a funk in the society that we live in right now because everything is on demand, and I blame that on on the technology that we have. And another thing I was telling r L yesterday, I said, people are dealing with so much anxiety because look how we're measuring our lives now.

You're not talented unless you've got some numbers on your social media, Like the numbers outshadow your overshadows your gift because nobody wants to take a chance on you if you already built the following that, Oh yeah, let me see what you've got to offer. And you see it play out in so many different industries. I remember um Texas Chainsaw Massacre. They wanted to put trade songs in it, and people was like, no, we don't know who that is. So when they looked at his numbers, they was like,

oh yeah, let's put trade songs in it. So they put him in that movie because of it. But they killed them like before the credit start rolling the course. But then you name what my point is. They used his name as a draw for people to come to the movies. That's all it is. Everything is a draw and let's see what you dolls numbers look like. They ain't even looking at what kind of talent you got. But here's the thing. Can I say this, I'm not

completely upset with that, And I'll say why. I'm sure you've heard the quote that hard work speaks talent when talent doesn't want to work hard. I think this kind of similarly aligns to the fact that you gotta put your yourself out there. You gotta grind because you know you may not be the best at it right now. But what are you doing to market yourself to put yourself on the block? Right? I understand that, I understand that, But what I'm saying is, you know, like the anxiety

comes in. Here's what I'm saying. If I posted a picture and only get five people to like it, does that mean? What's that mean? Exactly? When I fall apart because two people didn't like meny don't like my stuff, They just didn't see it. You gotta lot of competition that's out there, and then people are willing to wait to watch things grow. Oprah was gonna be as big

as she is. Think about the dudes they used to stay over that treat her like ship and talk to her any kind of way, right right, That's what I'm saying like, you don't ever know. And that's that's another thing that I can say to you. We don't deserve to treat people any kind of way. It doesn't cost you anything to treat I don't care what somebody does. And I always say that because the people when I was going to work every day, the cleaning people at the job, was like, oh my god, you're so nice.

You always talk to us. You smile like enough you man. And I said, you know, he said, everybody else walks around like that. He did his face like they me. But my thing is, you don't ever know. You might have to trade positions with them one day. Everybody don't always stay where they are now. People grow, they move on. What if you got to look at that dude, he got to give you a job one day just because he cleaning up. Now on me, he canna always clean up?

Think about it, or take it even a step further. If you come in in one night and then and they're cleaning up and you fall out, they walk right over you your behind. I don't know that. He never speak to me down there. That's yes, your only source of help, But they leave you down there until you expire. You know what I'm saying. You just never know what

contraffic you're gonna run into it in your life. And then also I think it's also making sure that you create that good energy, that vibration, because that's what you will attract even later on, whether it's with that person in the next Yeah, and you know, and that's that's very important, you know, because your your your your reputation

is really all you have. And you're like, and I shared a story with you that I didn't particularly care for, you know, but you know to the way people treated me. But that's a man. Listen, you talk about me, but it's gonna do you more detriment because my reputation is solid. I haven't done any thing negative to anybody that I come in contact with. I sleep well at night, So you talk about me, it's gonna come back and bite you. Listen. I just came up with a quote of my head

right now. Let me know if this works. This is my first time staying out loud. Are you ready? I'm ready? You keep talking, s h I T your teeth are going to rote out. You get it? Quote at Dawnde said it on the Vitamin D Podcast with came and Kelly, facts are all you keep talking s h. Your teeth don't fall out, you got Dodo in your mouth right and your brass thinking real bad. No, But that's amazing.

I think that attested the fact of even you know not along with their hard work, along with the just straight up opportunity, and that of having the support of your wife. But that's something that I always admire about you because while I didn't have much interaction with you when I was in turning there, I knew of you

and even the moment that you said hi. Even over the years when Brian, who was actually technical producer and produces the Vitamin D podcast, he would hit me up, and the fact that you know, he was like, well lay some vocals now maybe i'll do something with came. And it's just like wow, that was an honor, was a blessing, and it was never a thing. And so that's when I ran into you last year at the World Wide Radio stuffing, I was like, oh my gosh,

and it was like nothing. And I appreciate that, No, that that really means a lot. Because I came in I inspired to do it how you're doing it, like you know, like you out here and you're making it happen. But more importantly, you are investing in lives, and like that is my sole purpose, you know, to speak life. And so when I came across your book and I'm like six dollars an hour to a million dollar Dream, all I could think is, like, man, who's about to

be inspired by this? Because I know that Detroit girl sure was who just heard a voice on TV and knew that she liked speaking, didn't know where was gonna land to And look I'm talking to shoot, one of the prominent voiceover artists in the industry. Shoot, oh networks? What stopped playing with me? What? Huh uh? Say my name? Okay, I'll song. I know all crazy, So thank you so much.

I just want to know. Is there anything else that you would like to tell someone as to why they should check out your book and what do you hope the book does for them? Well? I don't think I got no more, but you know the book is available on October two on Amazon to be available on Amazon dot Com October two. From six dollars an Hour to a Million Dollar Dream. And just remember this subtitle right here. The process isn't easy, but your decisions determine your outcome,

and for all ages. It's for all ages. It doesn't matter how old you are. You're never too old to reach your dream. Please believe. I'm just wondering where can people follow you on social media? Oh well, I am on Instagram at came and cat that proper spelling because people were ease and ease and c A y m a n k e l l y c A y m a n k e l l y on Instagram and on Facebook. Twitter is at Kim and Kelly Show. And I understand you've got some things cooking up that

you do on Instagram Live. I tell yourself a matter of fact, I do interviews on into Instagram Live every Tuesday, so invite guests on, and I've had a number of folks on inclusive. I gotta look at my wall, so Johnny Gil, Ralph tresvand Um Jimmy jam let us see r l um Gosh has been so many Wayne Brady shout out the Wayne Brady is for man Um stokely Will downy Gosh. It's been so I can't remember what I'm looking at the list, but it's been a love. Vant shout out to Von did you have Tank? Now,

I haven't had a tank. Tank change his phone number. I can't call him. I'm Leo. Came on to Neo man, that was amazing. So basically everybody and their mama and their mama and so yeah, somebody like that. That's awesome. You gotta be looking around at my wall down, which is amazing. By the way, it's Donny's you know, it's amazing. How long? Um, I've been doing this? Now? How many years? Shoot? Man? You know I started from my beginning. My radio journey

started in tenth grade. I was fifteen and forty eight. Now like thirty three, thirty three years? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh my gosh, that's almost as long as I've been on this earth. That's amazing. It is. You know when people say you're legendary. Huh no, legendary. I don't really feel any different, you know. If yeah, I get old, I feel younger. Came in m hmm, okay, I don't know we're playing here. We're on the podcast Your Voice Forever, one of the number one stations in the country for

a number one morning show. Uh, And I don't know. I guess maybe maybe you say us for the same because each part of the process, you know, you're growing. It's just a step. But I'll just say this, Yes you are legendary. Yes you are that man, that one in charge. You are shi nails, and you are a

beacon of light. And you know they say give people to flow at flowers while they're still a live Thank you because you know it's those moments to know like I'm possible, because I look at your story and I'm like, Dann came into it, and I want to thank you because just even attest to the fact that I'm sure there's plenty of others, but just like when I think about Brian and how we started out and I had this program at X him and then he showed up and then you just invested on him and look at

him like what m hmm, yo, Brian Freeland, check it out, gives more. He is the man, yo. So I just thank you so much, thank you for you. Just thank you, no, thank you because you're going places girl. In fact, when you finish up here, you go across street each Sunday. No, but for real, nough, don you know? And I tell

you this all the time. I see like you have a huge potential and you know, I would advise you to just keep pushing and keep going because eventually you'll start to see things unfold and they may not look you know, sometimes look dark sometimes, but you sometimes look light. But you know, you always follow that light. You want to head towards that light because it's there. And like a lot of times, when you start to look and you start to get frustrated, tell yourself that God didn't

bless me with this gift. A man, there's a purpose for it. And you know, like this is not on demand, so you can't just go hit the button and watch what you want to. It takes time. It takes time. So just to stay the course you know happen. Thanks again to Cayman Kelly for joining us on the Vitamin D Podcast to kick it and to talk about his new book, From Six Dollars an Hour to a Million Dollar Dream. The process isn't easy, but your decisions determine

your outcome. Y'all. When I tell you that your dreams are in your grasp, I need you to believe me, not just for me, but for you. Is it hard out there? Yes, but most of the things that are stopping you from being to you that you want to be are within your control. Please, please, please don't skip out on what you feel in your heart is your calling just because it's hard. Right now, you just heard

it from Cayman's mouth. You can go from working as a volunteer at the radio station to me the voice of the station, if you're willing to show up for yourself that is. And if you like to get a copy of Camus book, you can find it on his website at Cayman Kelly dot com. You can also find him at Cayman Kelly's Show on Twitter and Cayman Kelly on Instagram. And as always, you can catch us here

on your phone every Monday with more inspiring conversations. And if you're looking to get even more Vitamin D in your life, you can follow me on all social media at Dawn day Speaks. That's Dawn d a i Speaks on all social media. Until next time, always remember you are your greatest asset.