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Vicarious

Alex Scott & Karen Whitevicarious.captivate.fm
"Exploring our creative lives and the habits we've built to sustain them." Co-hosts Alex Scott and Karen White are two musicians and longtime friends on a mission to explore all things creative by chatting with musicians, songwriters, producers, painters, screenwriters, and more. Tap into your own creativity, glean some inspiration, and live vicariously through their guests. Join Alex & Karen every week for Season 4, coming late 2024.
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Episodes

Season 3 Minisode Finale!

Alex and Karen have a debrief of the season and all the great insight they’ve gleaned from their guests this season. They also tease what’s to come as they start to plan season 4. If you like what you’re hearing, please consider leaving as a rating and review wherever you’ve been listening. It would really help us out! Wishing you all well as you tackle your own creative projects. Until next time! Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Ema...

May 29, 202417 minSeason 3Ep. 10

Morag Wehrle on Not Selling Yourself Short, Writing, Post-Partum Depression, and Blending History with Memoir

For their last interview of the season, Alex and Karen are joined by writer Morag Wehrle to talk all about the non-fiction memoir she is currently working on that centres around postpartum depression - connecting her own experience with that of a woman from the late 19th century who was institutionalized for the same condition. They discuss how the project came to be and the serendipitous nature of it; from the circumstances that led to Morag working on the book to her incredibly varied backlog ...

May 22, 20241 hr 29 minSeason 3Ep. 9

Em Postl and Thomas Hoeller on Streams, Improvisation, and Working with Poetry

Alex and Karen chat with musicians Em Postl and Thomas Hoeller about Streams Poetry Project, their music collaboration that transforms poetry through vocals and guitar. They give an in-depth look into the natural evolution of this project over the last 8 years, from the organic formation of the project that began with some improvisation over a book of poetry by Rumi, to their current focus of working with more local poets and getting their songs recorded. They examine their love of stream-of-con...

May 15, 20241 hr 16 minSeason 3Ep. 8

Taras Luka on Moving from Ukraine to Canada, "A Part of The Journey," and Listening More

Alex and Karen talk to musician and composer Taras Luka about his journey with music, that started in the Ukraine and took him to many other parts of the world before his arrival to Canada 1.5 years ago. They chat about his globetrotting experiences and dive into the music philosophies he holds that have allowed him to pursue so many different types of music projects with a vast array of people. Taras gives much insight into the drive and passion he has for music as well as his own creative prac...

May 08, 20241 hr 8 minSeason 3Ep. 7

Marysia Tyski and Michael Nunweiler on Rish Jewelry, From Markets to DTC, Travers Metal and Making Things You'd Want to Wear

Alex and Karen talk with Marysia Tyski, the founder of Rish Jewelry, and her apprentice (and fiancé!) Michael Nunweiler to learn all about their business ventures and the art of jewelry making. Alex and Karen get a rundown of the different jewelry-making processes and dive even further into Marysia and Michael’s own processes for creating their beautiful works, from their sources of inspiration to the craftsmanship that goes into every piece. In addition to speaking about the creative side of th...

Apr 24, 20241 hr 15 minSeason 3Ep. 6

Chris Johnson and Carson Rekert on Writing a Screenplay, Trusting Each Other, Giving Constructive Criticism and Sharing Inspiration

Alex and Karen welcome back Chris Johnson, their first returning interviewee (S1, E5), and his writing partner Carson Rekert to talk about their current collaboration on a horror movie screenplay, as well as their many experiences together as friends, coworkers, and roommates. Chris and Carson get into their collaboration style; their trust in one another; and how they’ve been able to stay invested in the project for 5+ years, even through huge life changes like Carson becoming a father. They al...

Apr 17, 20241 hr 21 minSeason 3Ep. 5

Francis Henson on Content vs. Intent, Big Feelings, and Effect of Language on Social Identity

Alex and Karen are joined this week by musician, writer, teacher and certified fashionista (at least in Karen’s mind) Francis Henson! He brings with him a lot of great topics for them to dive into, like the idea of artistic identity as intent rather than content; our connection to music and art in adolescence; and music as a study of humanity. They explore Francis’ globetrotting childhood that began in The Philippines and brought him to Kazakhstan before ending up here in Vancouver, and talk abo...

Apr 10, 20241 hr 20 minSeason 3Ep. 4

Sam Dowdell and Keely Rammage-Scott on Project Vancity, the Grunt Work of Creativity and Working in Community

Alex and Karen sit down with musicians Sam Dowdell (Emilyn) and Keely Rammage-Scott to talk about their work with The Project Vancity , a music initiative that works toward community building by bringing a variety of musicians in the Vancouver music scene together to create video series, shows, and other creative works. Sam and Keely share how they individually got involved with the project and how it’s evolved since they joined the team, and get into the nitty gritty of what it takes to run a r...

Apr 03, 20241 hr 16 minSeason 3Ep. 3

Marshall To on Identity, Duality, Liminal Spaces, Dreams and Ghosts!

Alex and Karen talk to photographer, illustrator, and chef Marshall To about his many artistic mediums and how they all intersect. They talk about his creative process and dive into his life-long journey to discover what he’s passionate about. They also discuss his upbringing as a first-generation Chinese-Canadian, and how his family’s culture and Taoist religion shaped him and his art. Marshall also shares details of his relationship with spirituality and how fate has a way of intervening in hi...

Mar 27, 202457 minSeason 3Ep. 2

Alex and Karen on the Evolution of Their Creative Partnership and Collaboration

Season 3 is here and the word is: Collaboration! This season will be focusing on the topic of creative collaboration by interviewing not just solo creatives but also creative partners. So, what better creative partners to kick things off with than Alex and Karen themselves? They talk all about their experiences working with each other, from their past music collabs to their current podcast endeavour, and get into the details of how they work together; which roles they gravitate towards; and how ...

Mar 20, 202446 minSeason 3Ep. 1

Alex and Karen on New Year's Resolutions

Happy New Year everyone! Alex and Karen are back for a bonus episode to ring in 2024, and what better topic to dive into than New Year's Resolutions? They discuss their feelings about the term (spoiler alert: it's mostly negative) and share how they are reframing the idea so that it can better serve them as they venture into the year ahead. They give some tips for those who also struggle with the concept of resolutions, and share a very impassioned list of "Ins and Outs of 2024". ... If you have...

Jan 19, 202450 min

Season 2 Finale ft. Guest Co-Host and Pod Superfan Jamie Lee

It’s the finale! Alex and Karen are joined by friend of the pod Jamie Lee to discuss the season as both creators and listeners. They answer some of the questions they’ve been left with as the season wraps up, like “did we solve the creativity vs creating debate?”, and reflect on their own creative journeys from the beginning of the season to the end. They also tease what’s to come in season three, and reflect on some of their favourite podcast moments to date. … Follow Jamie: Website: jamieleeso...

Nov 15, 20231 hr 18 minSeason 2Ep. 10

Thad Bailey-Mai on the Importance of Taking Breaks, Chronic Injury and Composing Orchestral Music

For their last interview of the season, Alex and Karen talk to musician and composer Thad Bailey-Mai, and the topics are plentiful! They learn about Thad’s introduction to music from both his parents, and what it was like learning music at a young age with a dad who is a professional jazz trumpeter. They get into his unique style of composing orchestral pieces; his other creative outlets; his chronic injury; and the burnout that’s led to his current self-appointed recovery period, discussing why...

Nov 08, 20231 hr 10 minSeason 2Ep. 9

Madelyn Read on Whimsy, Friendship Breakups, Staking Her Claim in Alt-Country, and Grant Writing Tips

Alex and Karen are joined by musician Madelyn Read to talk about the path she is carving for herself as an alt-country artist in the Vancouver music scene. They discuss everything to do with her new album Concrete Country, including the grant-writing process that provided her with a “contractual obligation” to complete the project, as well as the different songwriting processes she implemented for each tune. They also talk about the nuances of friendship; holding space for your emotions and crea...

Nov 01, 20231 hr 22 minSeason 2Ep. 8

Kaya Kurz on Garment Making, Chronic Illness, and Being Radicalized By Tumblr

Alex and Karen talk to musician, sewist, arts worker, and all around cool person Kaya Kurz about her life as a multi-faceted artist. Kaya shares her self-described “flukey” journey from music school to her current job working for an arts non-profit, and how her idea to take up sewing as a covid hobby turned into a passion project that has become one of her main forms of artistic expression as well as a tool for both advocacy and community on her Instagram page that chronicles her work. They talk...

Oct 25, 20231 hr 34 minSeason 2Ep. 7

Amanda Sum on Songwriting, "Different Than Before," Finding Her Band, and Processing Grief

Alex and Karen chat with musician Amanda Sum all about the experience of making her debut album New Age Attitudes, from it’s initial conception all the way to creating a music video that was eventually nominated for a Juno and won the SXSW Music Video Jury Award. They talk about the different messages she tries to convey in her work; the importance of representation; and why you should always be asking yourself “why does this matter?”. Amanda also opens up about the loss of a dear friend and col...

Oct 18, 20231 hr 17 minSeason 2Ep. 6

Daniel Byrne on Subsocials Studios, Our Relationship to Sound, and Machismo in the Music Industry

Alex and Karen sit down with Daniel Byrne to chat about his life as a creative nomad. They cover a lot of Dan’s life: growing up in Indonesia, his experience in film school, breaking into the music scene and all the jobs he’s had along the way that led him to start Subsocials, a studio that creates sound effects libraries, sample packs, and much more. The three of them explore a lot of interesting tangents about music and the industry, such as the subjectivity of art and the influence that diffe...

Oct 11, 20231 hr 24 minSeason 2Ep. 5

Olivia Harrison on Tattooing, The Creative Spiral, and Working Through Perfectionism

Alex and Karen chat with tattoo artist Olivia Harrison (known by her Instagram followers as @fearbear ) all about her work and the different skills that go into the job of tattooing, such as finding the creativity within others’ ideas and the emotional labour of working with strangers so intimately. They delve into the journey that led her to start tattooing and talk about the courage and self-confidence it took to get started and to develop her own personal style. They also explore the idea of ...

Oct 04, 20231 hr 4 minSeason 2Ep. 4

Dawn Boudreau on New Beginnings, Dark Nights of the Soul, and the Courage to Change

Alex and Karen reunite with an old friend from university, Dawn Boudreau, to discuss her life as a musician and music teacher. Dawn gets candid about her experience living an “inverted life”, and what it took to go back to school at age 40 after raising a family. They get into ageism in music; how to keep evolving one’s creativity; and have a lovely chat all about Dawn’s garden and her line of home-grown botanical products. … Follow Dawn here: @dawnbmusic @dawneesgarden and check out her work he...

Sep 27, 20231 hr 12 minSeason 2Ep. 3

Cydney Uffindell-Phillips on Movement Coaching, Biomechanics, and Utilizing the Language of Movement

Alex and Karen talk to Cydney Uffindell-Phillips all about her work as a cheoreographer and movement coach, getting into all the different types of jobs she has had and how her work has evolved, as well as what moving to Canada from the UK has meant for her career. They explore the different roles that movement and body language play in character and creativity development; the technical and psychological aspects of the job; and how we can use movement as a tool for expression in our everyday li...

Sep 20, 20231 hr 20 minSeason 2Ep. 2

Chris Sallis-Lyon on "The Mall-tiverse," being a good hang, and committing to the bit

We’re back baby! It’s the season 2 premiere, and Alex and Karen are joined by comedy musician Chris Sallis-Lyon to talk all about his debut EP “The Mall-tiverse” (released under the name “Chriaus”) and how his love for comedy has shaped his musicianship. They also talk about his work as a session drummer and explore the role that ego plays in one’s creativity, for better or worse. … Follow Chris: @csallislyon Listen to The Mall-tiverse for free on chriaus.hearnow.com/the-mall-tiverse … Follow us...

Sep 13, 20231 hr 18 minSeason 2Ep. 1

BONUS EP: Alex and Karen talk Summer Slumps, & Quick Fire Questions

It’s a bonus episode! Alex and Karen sit down for a lighthearted chat about mental health struggles and the creative slump that crops up for them during their experiences with the summertime blues. Fun! They also talk about some of the things that are bringing them joy during this tricky time and play a rousing round of Quick-Fire Questions: Guilty Pleasure Edition. … For a sneak peak of the questions asked, check out the answers provided by our editor extraordinaire Will! Guilty pleasure lazy d...

Aug 23, 202354 min

Season 1 Finale ft. guest host Will Chernoff

It’s the last episode of season 1! To celebrate, Alex and Karen are joined by their podcast producer Will Chernoff to answer some burning questions from their illustrious guests and the three of them reflect on their experience making the season. Questions answered: Jamie Lee : What was the intention behind creating this pod and choosing guests? Do you feel like you earned what you were hoping for? Alana Yee : What kind of music do you mostly listen to? Kria Wall: How have you discovered a creat...

Jul 05, 20231 hr 25 minSeason 1Ep. 10

Dust Cwaine on Mentorship, Evolution, Tarot and Symbolism

For the last interview of the season, Alex and Karen chat with musician and drag performer Dust Cwaine - and the topics are plentiful! They explore Dust’s creative evolution, from their start as a musical theatre kid and karaoke enthusiast to their discovery of drag performance and their eventual transition into music. They get into the process of recording their new EP 17 as well as their first full-length album Arcana (2022), and touch on so many important topics along the way. Dust’s thoughtf...

Jun 28, 20231 hr 4 minSeason 1Ep. 9

Alana Yee on Contemporary Dance, Starting Late, and Process

Alex and Karen talk to contemporary dancer and art show curator Alana Yee about their journey to become a professional dancer, where that journey has taken them, and how trusting their intuition has been a guiding force in their life. They explore Alana’s thoughts on collaboration through different artistic mediums, creating opportunities for oneself and others (such as their dance art group Mega Pash Action and their performance art platform S.A.M.P.L.E), and how Alana incorporates pleasure act...

Jun 21, 20231 hr 26 minSeason 1Ep. 8

Jamie Lee on Moving to Canada, Standing Out, Coming Out and Staying Curious

Alex and Karen chat with musician and composer turned game audio professional Jamie Lee about transitioning from her childhood in South Korea to her teen and adult life in Vancouver. They dive into the cultural and financial challenges Jamie faced and how her determination and curious spirit has led her through her journey to become a musician and, more recently, a sound designer for the video game development company A Shell in the Pit. They also explore the Korean translation of the word creat...

Jun 14, 20231 hr 15 minSeason 1Ep. 7

Josh Eastman on Starting a Non-Profit Music Studio, Community Building and Inclusive Space

Alex and Karen sit down with music producer and mixing engineer Josh Eastman to talk about the different creative paths he's taken and how they led him to open Helm Studios, a non-profit music studio that supports low-income 2SLGBQIA+, BIPOC, and disabled artists in the music community. They explore Josh’s values-centred approach to his work - discussing ways to make space for others, and the importance of allyship. Follow Josh on Instagram: @grammywinningnepobaby Check out Helm Studios Pre-Save...

Jun 07, 20231 hr 14 minSeason 1Ep. 6

Chris Johnson on “Mr. Franchise,” Self-Educating, Reviewing and Writing Movies and Music

Alex and Karen talk to musician, screenwriter, and music/movie reviewer Chris Johnson about attending film school and his own film and music education. They touch on how his experience working on movie and television productions after film school shaped his ethos on creating art, and how it continues to influence his own work as both a screenwriter and musician. Follow Chris: Instagram: @shoreloser Bandcamp: https://shoreloser.bandcamp.com/album/the-quintessential-amateur Mr. Franchise Podcast: ...

May 31, 20231 hr 5 minSeason 1Ep. 5

Cary Campbell on Educating Openness, Decolonizing Education, “The Group”

Alex and Karen talk to educator and musician Cary Campbell about how his early challenges in learning affected his educational trajectory. They also talk about intergenerational learning and potential; his journey into academia; and the land-based perspective/curriculum he has developed in his work as an academic and lecturer at Simon Fraser University. Resources mentioned in the episode: - Learn about his ongoing research @ The Group (multimodal research) Educating Openness Article: https://www...

May 24, 20231 hr 8 minSeason 1Ep. 4

Kria Wall on Diversifying Creativity, Finding Balance, and Self-Expression

Alex and Karen talk to musician, composer, music educator and painter Kria Wall about their creative journey and their multifaceted talents. Kria also shares how coming out as non-binary and understanding their neurodivergence has influenced their creative expression. Follow Kria Wall’s projects here: @kriapaints and @spindletheband Check out their music on Spotify Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at thevicariouspod@gmail.co...

May 17, 202359 minSeason 1Ep. 3
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