Trump Victory on Deporting Students, Harvard Loses Serious Funding plus EPA Chief Zeldin on CA Wildfire Clean Up Week In Review - podcast episode cover

Trump Victory on Deporting Students, Harvard Loses Serious Funding plus EPA Chief Zeldin on CA Wildfire Clean Up Week In Review

Apr 19, 202529 minEp. 84
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  1. Immigration and Deportation:

    • The Trump administration achieved a significant victory with an immigration judge ruling in favor of deporting students advocating for anti-Israel and anti-American protests. This case involved Mahmoud Khalil from Columbia University, who was involved in pro-Hamas protests and misrepresented himself on his green card application.
  1. Harvard University Funding:

    • The Trump administration decided to freeze over $2 billion in federal funding to Harvard University due to its non-compliance with federal civil rights laws and its stance on anti-Semitism. The administration demanded reforms in governance, merit-based hiring and admissions, and viewpoint diversity.
  2. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Efforts:

    • The podcast highlights the EPA's involvement in cleaning up hazardous materials from wildfires in California and addressing sewage contamination from Tijuana, Mexico. It also mentions the EPA's role in the cleanup efforts following a train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio.
  3. Energy Policy:

    • We include a discussion on energy policy, specifically the importance of supporting oil and gas production in Midland, Texas. It emphasizes the need for smart energy policies and the role of the EPA in supporting job creators in the energy sector.

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Speaker 1

Welcome in his verdict with Center Ted Cruz, the week in Review, Ben Ferguson with you, and here are some of the big stories that you may have missed that we talked about this week. First up, a major victory for Donald Trump by immigration judge that has now said yes he can deport foreign students who come to America and advocate violence against Jews. And up next, Harvard has

been receiving billions of dollars from US the taxpayers. Well, the Trump administration is now saying we're cutting off a lot of that money. I'll give you the details why as well. And finally, the EPA administrator Lee Zelden joined us to talk about the California wildfire cleanup that Trump inherited and how the Trump administration was able to get it done quickly. It's the weekend review and it starts

right now. I want to move to this other big issue also that we mentioned earlier, and it was a massive victory for the Trump administration when it came to an immigration judge doing a major ruling on deporting students that are advocating for the death and destruction of students on campus that by the way, are Jewish, are advocating their support for terrorists organizations. And this all comes out of Columbia University, where it has become a major point

of all, right, who's going to win this? Is the Trump administration going to win this or are the radicals on the left going to win? And it was a big win for Donald Trump this week.

Speaker 2

Well it was a win. I don't know that it was a massive victory because it's clearly right under the law. So it was a win that was going to happen, but I'm glad it did. And so listen, one of the things that President Trump is doing that is exactly right is the Trump administration is deporting those who engage in anti Israel, anti American protests who are foreign students, who are on student visas, who are non American citizens.

You don't have an entitlement to be here. And look, we talked about during the Biden administration when these viciously how Israel anti Semitic protests were going on, that the Biden administration could do something about it, but they didn't want to because Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and Chuck Schumer, they agree with the pro Hamas protesters, they agree with the radicals, and so you didn't see the Department of Justice investigating them. You didn't see them following the money.

You didn't see them trying to do anything really to protect the Jewish students on campus who were being targeted for harassment and threats of violence. Well, you and I, in fact, one of the very first pods we did in the new administration, as we interviewed Pam Bondy at SEAPAC and in that podcast with with then Attorney General Bondi right after she got confirmed, she made clear then

they're gonna go after these radicals. And I will say immigration law gives considerable, considerable flexibility to the administration to decide who who that is here on a permissive visa

can be sent home. And so in this case, you had Mahmoud Khalil, who was a Columbia anti Israel protester, who who the administration is in the process of deporting, and and he is challenging that in court and an immigration judge ruled that he can be deported due to his involvement in last year's pro Haamas protests at Columbia. And this is a judge, Judge Jamie Corman's comans rather uh and and he said said the government had met its its burden of proof. I think that's that's clearly right.

And and the Department of Homeland Security laid out how Khalil misrepresented himself on his green card application, and in particular, he was not upfront about his involvement with organizations he's

involved with. He he willfully failed to disclose his employment with the Syrian office in the British Embassy in Beirut when he applied for permanent US residency uh And what what what the federal government argued is that made him inadmissible at the time he was given his green card because of quote fraud or wilful misrepresentation of material fact.

He also failed to disclose his work for UNRA uh And And you know UNRA we've talked about before, is the UN agency that that has literally been in bed with AMAS. You had multiple A Moss terrorists working at on Rah. UNRA has given significant material aid hamas terrorists. And and the court ruled that that look that that is is ample grounds to deport Uh, to deport him. I think that ruling is is clearly right. And if you looked at at at Khalil. You looked at his writings.

This is someone who is viciously anti Israel and anti America. And in fact he's using the deportation to just rail against America and what a hostile environment it is. And in fact Khalil's argument, here's something he wrote. He wrote an op ed in Columbia, you know, attacking how dare you to port me? And he says something. He accuses the Columbia administrators of manufacturing quote public hysteria about anti Semitism without once mentioning the tens of thousands of Palestinians

murdered under bombs made of your dollars. So understand, this guy's complaint is that the Columbia administrators stood too strongly against anti Semitism. They let their entire campus get taken over, that they let Jewish students be terrorized, they let campus buildings be taken over. They were weak and and effective, which is why the president of Columbia had to step down. And yet this guy's claim is Nope, no, they were too strong and against anti Semitism. They should have been

effectively marching alongside me in favor of Hamas. This ruling is clearly right I'm glad it came down. There are going to be more rulings like this. If you are.

Speaker 1

Here, this will have precedent, right like this is.

Speaker 2

Going to be no no. This is a ruling of an immigration judge in this case. So it doesn't resolve the issue across the country, but the immigration law is quite clear that that. Look, Khalil's case was harder because he was a legal permanent resident. He has a green card, and legal permanent residents have greater legal protections than just somebody under student visa. Somebody under a student visa, they can have their visa revoked and sent back. It is not a high threshold to do that. To revoke a

green card is a higher threshold. And so the ruling here is well that the Department Homeland Security gave evidence that he had lied when getting his green card and that was basis for deportation. And so that I think that's the right ruling here. It's a good ruling, and I think you're gonna see Listen, let me say to any anti American radicals who've come in on student visas, you are not welcome in America. And if you are going to use our hospitality to attack and threaten and

harass fellow students. If you're going to use our hospitality to attack America, get the hell out and and we're going to help you get the hell out. And that is one of the best things that Trump administration is doing right now.

Speaker 1

Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, you can go back and listen to the full podcast from earlier this week. Now onto story number two, which brings us to Harvard, and Trump has said we are freezing the funding going to Harvard. They have slashed over two point two billion in funding to Harvard after the school is defied federal law, and the White House says,

we're not playing around. A lot of Americans, by the way, may not realize that two point two in fact, a lot more than that is going to Harvard of your tax dollurs.

Speaker 2

Yeah, Harvard gets roughly nine billion dollars in federal taxpayer dollars, so it gets an enormous amount. Now, it's a huge research institution, and it does some good research. It does medical research and scientific research, and some of that researches is valuable. But what the Trump administration is announced the Joint Task Force on combating anti semitism. Has announced that it's freezing over two billion dollars in multi year grants

and contracts to Harvard. And that was following the school's president putting out a statement saying it would not comply with the Trump administration's demands on anti semitism. And I got to say, this is a battle that that Harvard and a lot of academic institutions are putting out statements in support of Harvard. So brave, so brave. And I will say most other institutions, when the Trump administration has threatened their funding, they've caved, and they've caved very quickly.

But but the other institutions are happy to applaud Harvard and say, yes, yes, yes, lose your funds. You're you're so brave.

Speaker 3

Uh.

Speaker 2

And And what is striking is that Democrats, Barack Obama, the Democrat governor Massachusetts, are all lining up behind Harvard. And and and there is a reason when you look at the core basis of the Democrat Party.

Speaker 3

Uh.

Speaker 2

You know, there was a time in a prior generation when the Democrat Party was considered a blue collar party, and in the age of FDR, it was a party of union members and working class uh and and and In fact, one of the reasons that that FDR was was treated with contempt is because he was a very wealthy person, as many Democrats are. But but he was considered a quote traitor to his class because he was a rich man who became a historic Democrat leader. Well,

that Democrat Party doesn't exist anymore. The Democrat Party no longer cares about the blue collar and in fact, they routinely to de stroy blue collar jobs. Today's Democrat Party is a party of coastal elites and and it is a party that is comprised of big universities and and and big business and big Tech and big Hollywood, all of whom have overlapping problems. All of them are are in bed with China and and and all of them have been taken over by by radical leftism, by cultural Marxism.

As you know. The most recent book I wrote is entitled Unwoke, How to Defeat Cultural Marxism in America, And each chapter breaks down a different major institution that's been

captured by the radical left. The first chapter is entitled Universities the wuhan Lab of the Woke virus, and and and what I argue is that it is universities and sadly my alma mater, Harvard, where the woke virus was first created in a lab, and then it mutated and spread, and it spread throughout just about every other major institution in this country. And so Harvard has been the locusts of much of the radical leftism and cultural Marxism that

has done enormous damage to our institutions. And Harvard is digging in, and they're claiming that they're digging in in defense of free speech. But what they're really digging in on is they don't want to change their policies Number one, that discriminate on race. They love discriminating on race, they love dei that they love putting race front and center, which by the way, is directly contrary to federal civil rights law. And they also want to continue admitting radical

anti Semites. They want to continue looking the other way at Prohamas protesters who threaten Jewish students, who threaten violence, who threaten intimidation, who call for genocide, And they want to continue admitting and promoting anti American radicals. And that includes both students and faculty. And so when the administration put a series of demands in place that Harvard said, No. I got to tell you, Harvard thinks they want this fight.

In my opinion, the Trump administration is eager for this fight with Harvard, and you could not ask Harvard has an endowment of over fifty billion dollars. And you know, one of my favorite responses to that, to Harvard's supposed stance on principle where they talked about standing for the First Amendment is Hillsdale College, which is a great college. It is a conservative college, a free market college. But one of the things they do is they don't take

federal money. And Hillsdale actually twigted, well, you can say anything you like, just don't take federal money. And oddly enough, Harvard doesn't want to do that. They want the taxpayers to fund them, but they want to continue to be embracing racism and vitriolic anti American sentiment while at the same time being funded by American taxpayers.

Speaker 1

So when you look at this fight, I do think the very interesting parts of all of this that we're talking about is now Americans are really waking up and realizing like where their money has been going, how much of it is going, And you're right. There's some of this as research, and that's the thing we can be proud of, and that's a good thing. But a lot of this is going to indoctrinating kids with radical leftist ideals.

And that's part of the reason why I think they need this money, right, They want the money for that reason. They've been doing a great job of doing that for

the last several decades. So if the money does dry up at places like Harvard and then we start to see more questions being asked about other money, not only could this change universities in a positive way, I think for free speech and not having one set of views that are indoctrinated, but it could also say the taxpayers a hell of a lot of money because it's not just Harvard that's getting cash.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, but Harvard is the perfect test subject. And our universities right now have become indoctrination labs. They've become places that enforce rigid orthodox and if you say something that is contrary to the radical leftist view, you risk being disciplined, you risk being having your grades, and you also risk just not being admitted. And look, some of the question comes down to a very simple what is

it that the administration was requesting. Because if the administration was demanding, Harvard must teach in every class that Donald Trump is the greatest president who have ever lived. I would agree with Harvard that no university could give in to a government demand about a specific position like that, particularly if it's one they disagree with. But that's not what the Trump administration said. And I have in front of me the letter that the Trump administration said. It's

five pages. I'm not going to read it all, but I'm going to read some of the portions of it. So it is addressed both to Alan Garber, who is the president of Harvard University, and Penny Prisker, who is the lead member of the Harvard Corporation. Penny Pritzker, by the way, was a cabinet member under Barack Obama. And the Harvard Corporation runs all of Harvard. And it's this privately held corporation of all Democrats that run Harvard as

this left wing bastion. Here's how the letter begins, Dear doctor Garber, the United States has invested in Harvard University's operation because of the value to the country of scholarly discovery and academic excellence. But an investment is not an entitlement. It depends on Harvard upholding federal civil rights law, and it only makes sense if Harvard fosters the kind of environment that produces intellectual creativity and scholarly rigor, both of

which are antithetical to ideological capture. Harvard has in recent years failed to live up to both the intellectual and civil rights conditions that justify federal investment, but we appreciate your expression of commitment to repairing those failures and welcome your collaboration in restoring the university to its promise. We therefore present the below provisions as the basis for an agreement in principle that will maintain Harvard's financial relationship with

the government. Here's the first governance and leadership reforms. By August twenty twenty five, Harvard must make meaningful governance reform and restructuring to make possible major change consistent with this letter,

including fostering clear lines of authority and accountability. Apparently that was objectionable, empowering tenured professors and senior leadership, and from among the tenured professorate and senior leadership, exclusively those most devoted to the scholarly mission of the university and committed

to the changes indicated in this letter. Reducing the power held by students and untenured faculty, reducing the power held by faculty, whether tenured or untenured, at administrators more committed to activism than scholarship. Now, again, this is something Harvard found unacceptable. We're not willing to focus on scholarship instead of activism. Note that's a violation of what we want

to do. And reducing forms of governance bloat, duplication, or decentralization that interfere with the possibility the reforms indicating this letter. So that's the first one. Apparently something was objectionable about that.

What's the next one? Merit based hiring reform. By August twenty twenty five, the university must adopt and implement merit based hiring policies and ceased all preferences based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin throughout its hiring, promotion, compensation, and related practices among faculty, staff, and leadership. Now, mind you, that is existing federal civil rights law. You cannot discriminate against based on race, and yet for Harvard that is is outrageous.

Of course, they want to discriminate based on race. It's an ideological commitment. What's the next one? Merit based admissions reform? By August twenty twenty five, the university must adopt and implement merit based admission policies and ceased all preferences based on race, color, national origin, or proxies thereof, throughout its undergraduate program, each graduate program, individual, each of its professional schools,

and other programs. Again, the idea of actually admitting students based on merit rather than discriminating based on race, which minds you? Discriminating based on race as illegal under federal civil rights law. To Harvard is anathema. What's the next one?

International admissions reform? By August twenty twenty five, the university must reform its recruitment, screening, and admission of international students to prevent admitting students hostile to the American values and institutions inscribed in the US Constitution and Declaration of Independence, including students supportive of terrorism or anti Semitism. Again, apparently, that is outrageous and unacceptable. The next one viewpoint, diversity

and admission and hiring. By August twenty twenty five, the university shall commission an external party which will satisfy the federal government as to its competence and good faith to audit the student body, faculty, staff, and leadership for viewpoint diversity, such that each department, field, or teaching unit must be individually viewpoint diverse. Now, notably, they're not saying higher conservatives.

They're not saying higher Trump supporters. They're saying, you cannot have a faculty that is universally orthodox and indoctrinating that all have the same view that.

Speaker 3

You know, the.

Speaker 2

Left loves to prattle on about diversity as our strength, and by diversity they mean we must all be leftist to believe the same thing, but saith though with different skin colors. Now, I actually think diversity means having different ideas, confronting ideas you disagree with. Look I go through these to give an example. I think each of those demands are very reasonable. They're saying, comply with federal law. Be an institution that actually does what you say, what you

claim to be doing. And yet Harvard is outraged. How dare you hold us to the terms of federal law. We cannot comply with.

Speaker 1

That as before, If you want to hear the rest of this conversation on this topic. You can go back and now the podcast from earlier this week to hear the entire thing. I want to get back to the big story number three of the week. You may have missed.

Speaker 2

You told a story earlier today about the EPA's involvement in cleaning up the California wildfires, and it's a good example of how it impacts people's lives. Like you wouldn't necessarily think the EPA is involved in dealing with wildfires, but you guys are deeply involved.

Speaker 4

As soon as the wildfires hit Los Angeles, over thirteen thousand properties destroyed, President Trump comes into office. He inherits it happened a few days before he got there. He signs an executive order. He says, EPA, you have thirty days to do your entire Phase one hazardous material removal before Phase two starts, which is the Army Corps of Engineers doing their debris removal.

Speaker 2

And like with the wildfires, you have people's homes that burn to the ground. There's a lot of toxic sludge. I mean, it's a mess. It's dangerous. Like fires produce bad stuff, and you guys had to figure out how to clean it up, but do it in thirty days?

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 4

First the response was that's impossible. This is going to take you until the summer at best. It's going to take a few months for sure. The lithium ion batteries were all over this particular area. We got it done in less than thirty days after ramping up to fifteen hundred workers. Proud of the effort from EPA. We do a lot like this that the American public might not

know about. And that's why in just a couple of days, we're heading to the Tijuana area in southern California, where a lot of Mexican raw sewage is entering for decades.

Speaker 3

We need to end it.

Speaker 1

Number one about you guys dealing with water issues and Tijuana and I also and there's another one that a lot of Americans will remember, and that was the trained derailment, and it seemed like the government was picking winners and losers with that cleanup or lack thereof. You guys have also gotten involved with that because what you did in the wildfires in California is incredible. That's what every American should get, no matter where they live, and politics shouldn't come into it.

Speaker 4

This is something that really showed then Junior Senator JD Vance as someone who understands leadership in a time of crisis, when disaster strikes, your instinct as a leader should be to show up at that site and to be the voice of the people. And what was wild was JD was like the only one there. I think that might be Congressman Bill Johnson's district.

Speaker 2

Well, to be fair, Donald Trump came to.

Speaker 3

Yeah, well and it was j and JD.

Speaker 2

Not Joe Biden, not Pete boudhage Edge, but Donald Trump came.

Speaker 3

That's right.

Speaker 4

And I remember the conversations where JD was engaging with President Trump to make sure that President Trump was there. And this was all in the initial days and weeks after disaster struck. Yes, and a lot of people were wondering, well, where is this person, where is that person, Where is this agency, where's that agency? It should be This is the ultimate gut check and an instinct check of just when it's amazing.

Speaker 2

Because Biden and the Democrats they really like Palestinians, you would think they would have gone, oh my.

Speaker 3

Gosh, you know, all right.

Speaker 2

For the record, Lezelden is officially speechless. He doesn't know what to do with that smart ass comment.

Speaker 4

I'll tell you it was a it was such a missed opportunity to lead and that EPA. Over the course of time, they ended up being two hundred and twenty thousand.

Speaker 2

Uh.

Speaker 4

We saw a two hundred and twenty thousand tons of contaminated soil removed, We saw tens of millions of gallons of water removed. They ended up becoming a massive EPA effort that actually is still ongoing and in a way for the environmental and human impacts. There's gonna be testing going on for a long time to come. And I would encourage anyone who's out there listening, who is in that community, in the in the area, that that maybe you used to go to East Palestine, but now you

take a detour, you go somewhere else. We all need to do our part to help bring East Palastine, Ohio back, and very important to the Vice President, but unfortunately too many of these cases have shown that lack of leadership.

Speaker 2

Well and tell us what you're doing in Tijuana, because it's an amazing here.

Speaker 4

You have an issue where for decades Mexican ros sew which has been coming across the border. It's been poured into the Tijuana River. It ends up contaminating water and air. We have Navy seals getting sick. They have to do training somewhere else. So we have decided enough is enough. We're going to Tijuana in the coming days. I can't wait to get there. We're gonna be on the US side of that border. We have a whole plan of action.

Speaker 2

I'm just warning you when you're in the cabinet, what happens in Tijuana does not stay in Tijuana.

Speaker 3

Yes, yes, sir, great advice.

Speaker 4

And especially if you drink the water, you'll be bringing that back to you, back with you to DC. So listen, it's something that we're going to step up on and tackle and we're proud of that. EPA wants to assist. And these are Americans that we see over there California.

Speaker 3

Do they vote red or blue? All your listeners know the answer to that one doesn't matter.

Speaker 2

But look, you're you're you're cleaning that crap up literally. I mean that that is valuable. That's what we want the EPA to be doing. That's important. Let me let me ask you so, so you and I are in in Midland, Texas. We spent the day We started by going to a rig that was drilling an oil well.

We then had a roundtable. And actually, when you were being confirmed and you came by my office, you and I have been good friends for over a decade, but when you were being confirmed, I said, I want to ask you to commit to come the Midland Texas and sit down with with oil and gas leaders, with entrepreneurs, with people that are producing energy and hear from them. And it's amazing. You're the first EPA administrator in history to come the middle of Odessa, which is astonishing. It's

like saying an ag secretary never been to Iowa. It's like saying a secretary of State had never been to the United Kingdom or never been to Israel. Like like your job, every EPA administrator should be in the Permian base. And given the importance of it, and and and the involvement.

Speaker 3

Of the e p A.

Speaker 2

So so tell us about you met with wildcatters and business leaders, a lot of people that are good friends of mine. Give us your impression of of of the folks you met, and and and what you learned on this trip?

Speaker 3

Was it valuable salt of the earth? Job creators?

Speaker 4

You could just imagine how much sweat equity was around that table of people who have poured their lives, their heart, blood, tears, creating jobs, providing energy to Texans and beyond.

Speaker 3

And these people need us to.

Speaker 4

Be thanking them, to be to be praising them for their good work, to be supporting them as opposed to using our power to try to make it more difficult for them.

Speaker 3

We shouldn't be trying to so by them.

Speaker 2

By the way, these guys are all close friends and buddies of mine. I have had great joy in recent weeks and months asking them how much they're like Billy Bob Thornton. Have they ever been tied up and had a mask over their head? Have they been covered in gasoline by cartels? Our host Bill Holmes, great great, great friend, Landman, very successful businessman. I asked him so. By the way, if you haven't watched Landman, you should. It's the best

show on television. I did play for President Trump in the Oval Office last week. The segment from Landman where Billy Bob Thornton talks to the left wing environmental lawyer about windmills. It's the best three minutes on television of our lifetime. And I will say at least the landman I know in Midland tell me that that they murder fewer people than they do in the show. It's still a great show.

Speaker 4

And for Billy Bob, if you're out there listening, that was some that was a free sponsorship from Senator Ted Cruz. So you're lucky that you have that fan playing it for President Trump in the Oval, bringing a great a great show to the people, and listen, we need to get smart with energy policy. There are people promoting win as an intermittent sources if that's a substitute for base load power.

Speaker 3

For all of you out there listening.

Speaker 4

Let's let's get smart, educate, advocate the people who are around all the policy.

Speaker 1

As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Center Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to down with my podcast and you can listen to my podcasts every other day you're not listening to Verdict or each day when you listen to Verdict. Afterwards, I'd love to have you as a listener to again the Ben Ferguson podcasts and we will see you back here on Monday morning.

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