BONUS: Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Apr 8 2025

likely to do. And I saw Buck something that I thought kind of perfectly epitomized the way the market is being used to attack Trump right now. CNN yesterday, when the stock market was down, had the stock market ticker on their screen constantly all day long. Hey it's down, this, it's down that Today the stock market is surging, going to have one of its best days in probably months, maybe years. And CNN at the time that I was watching it not have the ticker showing that it was

back up substantially. But again general lesson here. They are going to use whatever they can to attack Trump. The stock market is going to go up, and it's going to go down. I told you if it's below where it is today eighteen months from now, and if the inflation is up, I'll come on and I'll wear a clown costume and I'll tell you, hey, you know what, I was totally wrong. I think it's going to resolve itself. I think by the summer, many of these trade disputes

will be decided. The battle with China is going to be longer lasting because China has been for decades now taking advantage of the global free trade marketplace to rig it game in its favor, and it will take a long time, I think, to potentially get a resolution there. But we told you at some point water is going to find its level. The markets have seemingly adjusted to this trade war that is now underway. Big drops Thursday, Friday, big bounce back today, and we will see kind of

how this plays out. But I think you should know that the main attack here is just find anything that is negative and decide to use it as a cudgel against Trump. Other news today, Buck's last radio show as tomorrow. You're gonna be on tomorrow too, Yeah, yeah, okay, I.

I'm finishing the show tomorrow, grabbing my go bag with the wifey going to the hospital.

baby to arrive. All right, what's your take as we sit here in the stock market does as the stock market does bounce back, how many days in a row do you think it would need to bounce back for the latest? Oh my goodness, the world is burning down. Remember when it was the first term, everything Trump did

world War three would trend, you know he would. And when he killed Solimani, it was immediately every decision that he made was in some way going to lead to imminent catastrophe, and then by and large none of that occurred. And the one thing that actually caused the biggest calamity was something he was not responsible for at all, which was COVID escaping from a Chinese lab in you know, January of twenty twenty.

have learned their lesson. But they just have to run around these left wingers and many of their legacy media allies as if we are in the midst of an unprecedented catastrophe over and over again, and the catastrophe is constantly shifting. The signal leaked Jeffrey Goldberg Atlantic story was gonna burn everything down. Now that's completely gone, and the new thing is, oh, Trump's tariff battle is going to destroy the world. That's the new calamity.

someone of anything's truth anymore. Broadly, everyone recognizes, I think, much more clearly than ever before, that the media is running anti Trump ops on a regular basis, choosing what to cover, how they cover at everything, and so clay. They no longer have the ability, They no longer have the ability to induce there's that word again, to induce

panic across the country the same way. Now. Their audience still demands it and wants it at some level, but even they, I think, have become a little bit numb to Trump panic syndrome. The synapses are kind of fried. For the Libs, they can't get themselves quite as freaked out now because we were told even a matter of what six months ago, that he would be hitler, and now we're seeing no, it's actually fine. It's all fine, Libs.

You know, this was the one thing when I was with Bill Maher on his show, and you know, he just had dinner with Trump, recently. Yes, I tried the one thing that I tried to convince him of that I thought I might make a little ground, as I said, I promise you Trump is not Hitler and it's all going to be fine. And he refused, He said, I disagree. I think the country's over if he wins. Well, now we just went and had dinner with him. So put

that one. Put one in the column for the Buckster was speaking truth to mister Bill maher on that obviously, So Clay, this is the administration continuing to keep promises. And also I think to be very focused on what the agenda is irrespective of whatever the media says. And that's the Trump doesn't give a you know what about what they say. Is actually a powerful political tool right now, or it's a powerful political reality, and I think he

should continue to do this. They also, we haven't mentioned it. We'll get into it more later. Supreme Court just came down five to four on the Alien Enemies Act deportations, and the White House is going to be able to continue to do that. And I know there's a change of venue. We can get into some of those specifics, but it is not in fact the case that this was open and shot Trump can't do There's no actually Trump can, So we should continue to look at that

as well. But I think on the economic side of things, they're really running out of stuff to tell us is going to cause the depression because of Trump? Right, They're running out of levers to pull here on this one. Because if this was supposed to be Black Monday, as they were saying, as Kramer said, to whatever degree anyone thinks that guy should be listened to, I think the answer should be almost not at all. But what are they going to keep saying?

of imploding. Then stocks go up, they go down, and I believe that we will soon, you know, continue that that upswing in the Trump era over the next couple of years. But you don't know when This average stock market price, you know, in every year on average goes up eight or nine percent, but there's a wide range of how that can go. And I would just say,

look at prices back in May of last year. If you weren't panicked, if you weren't sitting around staring at the walls thinking to yourself, oh my goodness, how am I going to live? Probably take a breath and and realize that you're okay.

these specifics. There's negotiations ongoing this country's come forward and said, hey, let's figure this out. Fifty countries plus already have said all right, let's get a deal going here. So there will be a greater degree of market certainty and a

greater degree of the economy is okay, right. The perception of stability will create additional stability with this, which I think also Clay goes to Trump and his team understand these fundamental currents within the economy, not just the stock market, about manufacturing, about trade, about employment, about the price of gas, the price of eggs, the price of mortgages. All of these things are in consideration, and this team knows what they are doing and is trying to achieve something. You know,

you can just tell the Democrats were hoping. They were hoping for the stock market to go down forty percent yesterday, yes, because that would in their minds, that would be okay, we're back baby, the end of the Trump presidency. It didn't happen, and now we're going to see who's right and who's wrong.

your own life on a day to day basis. You would never I think this analogy is so good. You would never look at what Zillo says the value of your house is and be like, oh my goodness, I've got to sell my house right now. Your house is constantly fluctuating in price. You have no idea what it's going to be worth. Most people do well on their houses because there is a significant cost associated with selling a home. With moving. Most people move into a house

and they stay there for years. And if you do that, if you make a solid decision, the best financial decision most people make is buying a house and holding on to it. Same thing's true also of stocks. We'll take some of your calls. By the way, We're also scheduled to be joined by Selena Zito, who does a good job of reporting from out in the Midwest. Kind of the middle part of the country about what she's seeing on the road and what she's seeing and all these different communities.

taken him seriously but not literally. And also was reporting from russ Belt flyover whatever you want to call the de industrialized areas of the country and said, no, I'm talking about twenty sixteen now, right when this was still shock to a lot of people, she was doing that reporting saying, no, people are really it, this is a movement, this is real. So she's got an update now eight years later on that for us that I think Klay

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challenge the layoffs. Order was unsigned, but two liberal justices opposed it, suggesting that it was it would have otherwise been a seven to two decision. This was to overturn an injunction put in place by the US District Court Judge Alsop in San Francisco requiring the reinstatement of all of these employees that the Trump administration was seeking dismiss. Okay, So what's going on there? Also was the decision that came down relating to Trump's executive power to deport individuals

from this trenda ragua gang. Basically, the Supreme Court is coming in and slapping down these federal nationwide injunctions that are being put in place by these district court judges. So Trump's executive authority and power is being reinforced by the Supreme Court, which is telling these federal district court judges you have to lift these injunctions. Now, we talked about this. The Trump two point zero resistance is not coming from the legacy media. It's not even coming from

the Democrat Party. It's coming from left wing judges at the district court level that are deciding to try to enjoin that is stopped basically Trump from undertaking his executive authority. And we talked about it within the context Historically, Trump has more nationwide injunctions than Biden had in four years already,

than Obama had in four years already. These judges are trying to throw themselves to thwart the Trump agenda and forcing the Supreme Court to come in and say, hey, you can't do this.

and then did the thing. So those are those are presidents who were reckless about the use of executive power, just just flagrantly making stuff up doing you know, when you're talking about, oh is it the administration, look look at what they use against Trump. It's the Administrative Procedures Act. Was all due notice given in all the forms checked before you can fire a single of federal employee. With Obama or with with Biden, it was, yeah, you don't

owe money to the student loans anymore. You know, we're just gonna make that go away for you. Right, We're talking about big things that they had clearly no authority to do whatsoever. So I just think that when you keep it and when you have it in that context, clearly, you know, right leaning judges are like, look, you know, I may not like what's going on here, but unless they violate the law, clearly, I'm not going to try to step in. Left wing judges are I don't like Trump.

I'm going to find a way to stop him. Perfect example of this judge Boseburg, who has really become the pinnacle of the resistance. You know that he wasn't supposed to get the case. I just heard this the other day. It was amazing. He wasn't the judge on duty for the flight leaving. You know, remember, first of all, this is in DC, and why is this falling undo the DC jurisdiction. There's all these questions. But Clay, he stepped in and was like, oh no, I want this one.

That's not how that That's not how that's supposed to work. The judge that hates the president isn't supposed to shove aside other judges in the rotation. Think about this, Clay. You know, if somebody was charged with murder and some judge shoved another judge out of the way, Oh no, I want this case because everybody knows I hate this defendant. Nobody would think that was okay. It's exactly what Boseburg did.

And also, all these federal district court judges really do think that if they oppose Trump, they're also setting themselves up for promotion, because again, for those of you out there, and I understand sometimes your head rolls back into your head over this. There's the federal District court judge level, which is the lowest level of the district court judges. Then there's the Circuit Court, and then there's the Supreme Court.

So these lowest level judges are trying to put in place, like this guy from San Francisco is trying to put in place a ruling that applies nationwide, and eventually it works its way into the Supreme Court, and they say no. And remember the precedent that they're putting in place about executive power and executive authority applies for all future presidents. So what they're trying to do is Trump resistance two point zero is almost exclusively the province so far of

the judiciary. And to your point, Buck, it certainly is interesting that all these judges claiming that they are trying to def in the Constitution from an authoritarian dictator. Actually the Supreme Court is saying, time after time, Trump has the right to be able to do what he's doing.

And I think it's important to point out that Biden knew many times when he was taking action, for instance, when it came to the extension of the lack of evictions under FEMA authority, that he didn't have the ability to do that, and he even said, this will just buy a few more months for us to be able to keep this policy in place. He defied what he

knew the law was. Trump on so many of these, so many of these legal issues when he gets up against these resistance judges, Clay, how many times have we been told and all these people like I'm especially the former Conservatives or former Republicans out there, you know who they are.

the fourteenth, fifteenth, sixteenth Amendment. I don't even remember what the specific battle was, but it was one of those they said, this is a really difficult legal issue. I think there's a very strong case that he shouldn't be able to be on the ballots at all. I remember reading all these editorials in the New York Times, and then the Supreme Court said no, nine, oh, you can't do this, and when you get slapped down no by the United States Supreme Court and trying to argue, actually,

they have the right to do this. I think a lot of people it was Lucy and Charlie Brown, you know, are you really.

a his discretion matter. But they needed that to be clarified, right, I mean, yeah, I think if we could run a tape play the whole show of CNN Legal experts in New York Times legal experts, you're just wrong over and over and to your point, in some of these cases, they're wrong nine. Oh yeah, has to be like, you guys are insane, even who is herself insane?

the ability to do this. And again, this is why so many of these rulings are not designed to win. They're designed to delay. It's it's like if you're if you're putting you know, back in the day, somebody's on the train tracks and you're trying to just put a bunch of burning logs on them. Your goal is not to end the ability of the train track to exist. It's just to slow everything down. It's all dilatory tactics,

that's all that's going on here. And you know in this order about the this is the one that just came down.

So hey, judge, I know you hate Trump. Can you make them hire them back? And the fact that a lower court judge Clay went along with this sham, it just shows you how insane these people are and they don't care. They simply don't care. This is a federal judge in Baltimore that ordered the administration to reinstate thousands

of fired probationary workers. One federal judge can say that you have to rehire thousands of people in the federal government because some nonprofit has brought a lawsuit in his court. Get out of here. This is when a judge tried to tell the President that he had to turn a plane around and return. Yeah, ton, I mean that's a pretty I'm actually glad. I'm glad that he did that, because that really that was he overplayed his hand big time,

and everyone saw that for what it was. By the way, because if you can do that, he can say, hey, turn the F eighteen around, not allowed to bomb the nuclear reactor and around. By the way, breaking news on the tariffs, the White House has now imposed one hundred and four percent tariffs on China, effective immediately, in response to China's response to us. So we are this is a trade war. Just to be clear, this with China, we are entering trade war territory. The other countries are allies.

We're gonna figure out a nice deal. But China, Clay, wouldn't you agree, I mean, that's this is a trade war now.

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hundred percent. I think it's important for many of you out there to realize that we're really not talking about one policy fits all. It's going to be very different, but ultimately this trade battle is really about the United States versus China. Yes, there's going to be some tension with the European Union, Canada, Mexico, Australia, Japan, whoever else you want to toss out there, But really this is about the United States versus China. This is the big

battle to be fought. It's going to resolve itself in the weeks and months ahead. But right now Trump is retaliating for China's retaliation to US, and I guess the next question, Buck, is will China retaliate again or is this move by Trump to put one hundred tariff on all Chinese goods going to actually provoke China to say, Okay, let's sit down, let's talk about a way to figure this out. So we will see exactly how that pans out.

Bridge Colby committed, confirmed, not committed. We probably need to commit some Democrats, but not Bridge Colby and so he is confirmed. And we have been talking about the liberal judges and what they.

the trade dispute. Doctor Laffer had a really interesting Wall Street Journal piece that was up in Yesterday's was up yesterday online. I believe it's in today's newspaper about how to resolve the trade disputes. One of the most brilliant economists in the entire world, and so we will talk with him about this tomorrow. Okay, something fun buck, Lots of chaos going on, lots of craziness on a day to day basis. I bet there are strong opinions on this.

able to extract that DNA to create new dinosaurs. And obviously, the Jurassic Park franchise in terms of movies has remained incredibly durable and powerful for thirty some odd years because lots of people remain fascinated by dinosaurs in general, lots of little boys, although not lots of little girls too. I remember, I think you said your nephew knows everything about dinosaurs. When I was a little kid, I knew

everything about dinosaurs. There is a great deal of interest still, obviously in the Jurassic universe.

And if you have a ranch, ranchers are furious about this because suddenly what I was told I was in Colorado, They're like, yeah, everybody in Boulder and Denver decided they wanted to vote to bring back wolves, and all the people who live in rural Colorado are like thanks, jerks like, we have no interest in bringing back wolves, and suddenly our livestock are getting killed and we're having to worry

about something that we had eradicated. My thought is, now, these dire wolves, there are three of them that they say they have brought back, two boys and a that they named Romulus and Remus, and one girl pop Will they like in Jurassic Park, eventually find their way out and then they're suddenly circulating in the community. They say that the dire wolf basically covered all of North America back in the day ten thousand years ago. If you were out, this thing was from Canada all the way

down into South America. They basically roamed free. They were wiped out about ten thousand years ago. What is your take on the idea, not only of the dire wolf, saber too, tiger wooly mammoth being bringing back extinct animals good or bad move?

places where there are no safaris. They've been in some rough parts of Africa, but I've never I've never done safari, but I love knowing that there are lions and hippopotami and all that stuff. So I think that it's tough for us to separate out the concept of it. This is why when you brought up the ranchers. I think that's very afro po, the concept of it versus the reality of it. You know, a saber tooth tiger is fine until saber too tiger eats your grandma and then

you're pretty it. This actually came up if you you remember when this I think it was Cecil the Lion was the big story and Jimmy Kim they killed him, yes, and it was like him was like crying on TV about Cecil the Lion in Africa, who on a lawful hunt was shot. Yeah. Yeah, it's like Cecil the light is crying. And look, I love animals, so I get that. And there's something that's, you know, like I love my little dog Ginger so much, and yet I'm I'm gonna

lamb shops right for dinner. Like I understand some of this stuff. We get a little. It's about sentimentality over pure logic. Okay, But that all said, there was a really interesting Wall Street Journal article that I remember from that time, written by I think he was a student at Harvard or Princeton, who was like, you know what lions mean in my village? Yeah? I read the people

get eaten? Yeah, like this isn't a game to us, like we actually have to control the population because they'll eat your dad, they'll eat your sister, Like, you know, this is a real thing that happens to real people, which reminds me of that movie Ghost in the Darkness, based on a true story. And I know you all know this and you can go see the stuffed carcasses of those lions and I'm in a zoo and I'm in a museum in Chicago. Wasn't Val Kilmer in that movie?

That just yeah, yeah, it was a Valkilmer movie with Michael Douglas. Kind of a weird casting of Michael Douglas, but anyway, Val Kilmer was good in it. And that's based on a true story. I mean, these lie became habituated to eating people and they're like, wow, people are slow and kind of weak, like let's just eat them instead. So this is all a way to say, I think for you know, should we bring back dodo birds?

They're basically pets that have escaped and now they're killing all the native you know, ecosystem animals off, so you have to go hunt them and deal with them. True thing. Also, you know that little brown bird that you guys all think of, the European house sparrow, probably the most common bird in the entire United States everywhere, a little kind

of round squat bird. They're an invasive species from Europe and they have killed off a lot of native bird species because they will break into another bird's nest and break their eggs. They're mean, they're mean little birds. The honeybee is an invasive species. Well, but we like honeybees. This is, I guess the point, right, We like that honey People don't realize this. North America, until colonization, had no honeybees anywhere, and then they slowly spread across the

entirety of the North American continent. But they were a invasive species that otherwise didn't exist here. Some of you will remember this too. There was a fear about fire ants and how they're going to keep spreading up and spreading up, and you know, they're dangerous to people if you step on one of their anhills. And there was a briefly discussed proposal that I remember reading about the

only real, real natural predators for the fire ants. They were thinking, maybe we should introduce it's a South American anteater which has like six inch long claws and weighs like two hundred pounds. And then they're like, well, if we introduce that, what's its natural predatory Jaguars? So you create all these problems, the food.

the whole point of Jurassic Park. But I like it also for endangered species now because in theory, it would mean there should be no animal that actually vanishes, right, you should be able to get the existing DNA of all animals that are alive on Earth today, and we should be able to create a genetic Noah's Arc of all living animals here today and be able to create them.

I mean, that's that's gonna be the same way that polar polar bears hunt people. It's really the only North American land animal. Yeah, I know, grizzlies can wolf has never actually attacked healthy wolves have never attacked the human being in the history of North America is at least what you that's what they announced me. You're gonna say no, but that's what they say. Okay, that's what the official statistics are. The wolves won't attack people if they're healthy.

If they're a rabid, that's different. Polar bear see you, and they're like food food, they do. There's no offens or butts, and the same thing would be true of a short faced bear. So you know some of the thing. Let me hit you with this one, buck. My boys are obsessed with the megalodon, which is just a giant shark. In theory, the dire wolf can be kept in inside of a fenced enclosure and everything else. My concern on this would be that we would start.

we will create will get out. And can you imagine a world where suddenly you have, instead of a great white shark, you've got the megalodon suddenly like rolling around in the ocean deep. That starts to get a little bit scarier to me. But I think it's the reality of where we are going. I think you're going to see all of these extinct animals genetically us able to

bring them back. Now, one more thing, as we go to break some people are saying this is not the real animal because of the way they're doing the DNA coding, and that gets way more complicated and above my pay grade. But I have read some of those critiques as well.

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that when she reaches out to us. And she is now with us now, so we bring in Selena Zito. She has got a op ed in the Washington Post where she has been spending time with Midwestern workers. Selena, I'm curious what you're hearing from people in the Midwest, an area that used to be the manufacturing of America that has certainly dried up in many different ways. Jade Vance has been a huge part of his political career as talking about the jobs that no longer exist in

the Midwest. What are you hearing from voters in the Midwest, How do you think this tariff war plays for them? And how would you assess the politics of what's going on right now?

communities being decimated, and nobody even wrote a story. I mean, I'm obvious being a little exaggerating here, but there wasn't this big overt worry about their lives right when when all their jobs were lost, when everything was taken away from them. And so they look at it two ways. They look at it as being patriotic, bringing back American manufacturing, sacrificing in their four oh one k for the betterment of the country. But they also look at it as

leveling the pill of playing field. And it's not just manufacturing.

takeaways both from seeing that operation. I think very few people who don't work in a steel mill have ever really been inside one, and also their sense of what would they say to people who claim, well, but we can never make steel the way they do as cheaply as they do in China, so why even try?

And these workers who would traditionally be born Democrats. Right in western Pa, you're usually born Catholic and Democrats. It

just like goes together. They are the perfect example of how the coalitions in American politics have dramatically changed, and now that the Republican Party or the Conservative Populist Party is now the party that embraces the working man and women, and so they're very happy and they're willing to take a bite out of out of their four oh one case if it means that this will be better for the future generations. And that's the way these union guys talk.

Like a lot of those union workers that you'll in the story, they're towards the end of their career, right they're in their fifties. They said, this isn't about me. This is about the guy that just started at the plant two weeks ago. Guys before me did this and took sacrifices, and my I'm to pay it forward and make sure that they are able to retire when they termed sixty Selena.

Is this anything that one president can do or do we have to string together a lot of presidents that see this as an issue in order to reverse what's happened too.

It's going to be the largest electric power plant in the country. It is also going to power a data center for an AI data center. There are going to be ten thousand new jobs. That's and and it is a ten billion dollar investment. And that's not even before the AI data center is built. You know, Bergmann was there. He was I was at a racking site, a racking well and he said, Look, our job right now is to build, build, build. It's more than drill drill, drill,

because this is like the arms race. AI is like the arms race, and we have to win in this country. And he pointed to the fact that there are places like that coal fired power plant and Homer City all over the industrial Midwest that are ready and capable to be built. So I think that is where the new construction, the new jobs. And these aren't just working class jobs. These aren't just welders, these aren't just artisans that work

with their hands. There are geologists there, chemists, engineers, men and women with degrees in AI and technology. So it is a broad reconstruction of how the American economy and how the American worker approaches the next generation.

this path, what does that start to look like? What towns are affected? What industries do you think can boom?

then we can talk about our universities. Right our universities will will will have a bit of a turnaround and what they focus on. You know, maybe it's not your kids. You send your kid off for French literature, you know, maybe they go to school for things that are going to recreate these communities. The footprint is already there in places like Indiana, Pennsylvania, or West Miffland, Pennsylvania, or Claysville, Pennsylvania, and all across and not just in Pennsylvania. It's in Ohio,

it's in Michigan. It's in Wisconsin. Use these places are already there, and these universe cities already have sort of the grain to begin these kinds of of new new degrees that young people can go for. But also the trades.

Like you guys, I'm sure you've talked or listen to Mike grow you know, the trades are also where we are going to see a growth and jobs that create real prosperity, where people can live in the same hometown that their parents grew up in if they want to, right, and that that generational investment in a community that's worth more than money in a lot of ways.

everything you say literally and not so seriously. And and it's still it's that same sort of dichotomy, right It's it's it's very different in the middle of the country and in particular among young people. You know, you see all these protests out there, and they got a lot of play on social media and the national news. However,

I would argue American politics is all about edition. If you go to any of these rallies, try to find someone that's changed their mind, you likely can't because they're the same people that voted for who lost last November. So they're not adding anything new. And I think that's the challenge right now for anything that is against what President Trump and the Republicans are trying to accomplish. I was four feet away from President Trump in Butler in

July thirteenth of last year. In fact, I have a book coming out about it. But one thing I can tell you in the day after I talked to him, In the days after I talked to him, he had this fundamental understanding that there was a reason that he did not die that day because so many there's so many reasons why he shouldn't have survived what happened. But because of that, he will be forever changed and deeals this urgency to do something because he was given that moment to be sick.

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