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Real Estate Secrets Unveiled: Interview with Nathan Priest

Sep 29, 202339 minSeason 2Ep. 8
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In this exciting episode of ValuNation, we sit down with Nathan Priest, Owner of SNP Holdings, LLC, to dive deep into the world of real estate and unveil the hidden truths behind the term "Mortgage Handcuffs." Nathan shares invaluable insights that are crucial for both home sellers and buyers navigating today's competitive market. Discover the strategies, tips, and expert advice you need to break free from the constraints of mortgage handcuffs and make informed decisions. Plus, don't miss Nathan's incredible high school baseball story, where he faced off against none other than baseball legend Albert Pujols! Stay tuned for this captivating episode, set to release tomorrow, and make sure to subscribe to ValuNation Podcast for more exclusive interviews and real estate wisdom. Join us on this journey of knowledge and empowerment in the world of real estate.

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All right, value nation, nation, do we have a good one for you today? You're gonna wanna call your friends. You're gonna wanna share the link. You're gonna wanna listen. You're gonna wanna take notes. You're gonna wanna remember this one. This one's relevant for you. We're not talking about appraisals and mortgages. We are talking about what you wanna know, buying houses right now in today's markets. Do you know a friend? I wanna buy a house, but rates are too high.

I wanna buy a house, but home prices are too high. The news says it's a terrible time. Where do I even start? We are here to answer all those questions today. We got a special guest, the man out there, boots to the ground, driving probably 200 miles a day, serving the people, helping them find their houses, Mr. Nathan, Nate Dogg, Sugar Bear, Nathaniel Priest. Welcome, sir. Welcome, sir. What an intro. Man, I'm feeling good about

that one. really get into the intros that couldn't have been off the cuff you had to have jotted down some notes for that one there's just there's just four little notes that's it he's posted hey super professional that's clutch clutch i love it mr nathan priest all right man so um realtor here in the kansas city area welcome to the show glad you're on we're gonna dive right in man dive right in people want to know what's actually going on in today's market. So let's

just dive into it. How long you've been doing this? Take us through maybe like a quick little timeline of your real estate career and your journey and where you are now and what's going on now. Yeah. So my senior year of college is when I got my real estate license and never, never looked back. And that was in basically 2003 is when I became licensed. So right at 20 years in the business and came out of the gate,

really doing pretty amazing. And then 2008 happened and there was a lot of a lot of uh reality checks and uh hard decisions that had to get made along the way but then kind of came out of it and grabbed market share came out the backside pretty pretty strong so 20 years in real estate got the start by some guy saying hey i want you to sell new homes for me so i was like okay let's do it figure it out as we go Yeah. How long have you always been with the same shop or did you bounce around

a little bit? No. So I was working at Sherwin -Williams Paint Stores my senior year of college. And there was a developer who would always come in and I'd help him out all the time. And he's just like, you need to come work for me. And he was with a Coldwell banker. And, you know, I told my wife about it and she signed me up for online courses at the time. I think we still had like the dial up Internet. The online course. The old AOL dial -up. Yeah, exactly. But three

weeks later, I was licensed after that. And you keep that for development going. Sold a few houses. And then, I don't know if Mike knows the name, Bill Baird. He started a company called Infinity Realty. He's now the mayor of Lee's Summit. And I was kind of friends with him through my brother. And so he's like, hey, I want you to come out here. We got some new home developments we're

working on. So literally six months into my license, you know, having my real estate license, I switched companies from Colo Banker to a company called Infinity Realty. And we started several new developments. That's what brought me to Raymoor in 2005. That's where Mike and I met. But in 2005, came out of the gates, had fun. And then 2007. Sales started sucking, and then everything went down the tubes. Yeah, so during that time, that consumed Infinity

Realty. In about 2010, I started talking with Lonnie Granson, and we kind of joined forces at Kyle Williams in 2011. And Lonnie and I, you know, ran through Cass County pretty good there for about four or five years. I guess it was 2017, 2018 is when I started S &P Real Estate. And still part of Keller Williams. Keller Williams is great. The education, people coming out of gate. If you want to know how to get started,

Keller Williams is the place to be. If you want to grow a big business, Keller Williams is the place to be as well. Seen some people out there. We were talking about earlier out on social media. Full on there, Keller Williams. logo, you know, specialized logos and stuff like that. Yeah. I just, I'm not good at the flaunting stuff. I more like to connect with people and figure out what I can do to help people achieve their

goals. And hopefully they'll see that, that they're talking with somebody who knows what they're, knows what they're doing and will help them achieve their goals. You started with a builder. So did

you kind of. and enjoy that part like do you still like the ground up construction business or do you now dabble in a little bit of everything i mean i guess you kind of have to right yeah you do like so i've read i think four new home developments throughout my career and uh i did a lot of that work on my own um and uh those those are very time consuming and so if you want weekends uh for golf or family new home subdivisions is a hard thing to run so i kind of got away

from the new home construction stuff i personally we built a few houses um on a speculative basis i would never do a custom build job for me because because building a building a spec house you can kind of move forward move fast and not wait for decisions number one and then number two uh like I've built a couple of houses last year when lumber prices went nutso. Like a four by eight sheet of plywood went from $12 to $80.

And of course, that's what I'm building. But if you would have been building a house for a custom build job and didn't have a clause in there, you already got a set price and your lumber bill comes in at $40 ,000 high. There goes all your profit. So I'm really glad I didn't do any custom. And I was able to set a price once all the construction was complete. So, yeah. But ground up takes a long time, you know, six to nine months till you get paid as a realtor. It's

not for everybody. Yeah, that's not for everybody. Yeah. But if you have them stacked and you got them, once they start closing, they're nice, right? So you start a subdivision in January

of 23. all of a sudden you know you're gonna have a great christmas but but you better be selling some other stuff along the way oh yeah for sure so uh you know with the the current housing market you know is the way it is right with the low inventory the high interest rates all the things we get slammed across the head every single day in our business you know from from your point of view like what's the what are the biggest like hurdles or roadblocks that

you you know you're facing or how are you working around them with your borrowers? So in terms of representing, we'll start on the seller side, if you will. The biggest roadblock I'm running into, and I think the term out there is a mortgage handcuff or handcuff mortgage, where somebody's got a 2%, 3 % rate and their house has gone up tremendously in value and they're in a position where they're ready to move up. They're like, I can't give up this rate. Like, it's going to

cost me. And so we're calling that the mortgage handicap, where a seller is just like, I'm not going to list my house because I can't replace it. And, you know, a $450 ,000 house with principal, interest, taxes, insurance, all that stuff is going to run you about $3 ,500 a month, right? And so they're sitting there with their $1 ,500 a month payment. And they could sell it and probably make $100 ,000 more than they ever expected.

But that just goes to the down payment typically to try and get PMI gone or whatever the case may be. So the mortgage handcuffs probably the number one problem for sellers getting off the bench. But at the same time, homes get listed every day. People got to sell for whatever reason. So there's business out there to be had. And you just got to put your name out there and ask for a business. So there's something I've seen a guy on a video, I forget who it was, explaining

it this way. And I guess it would be more for a buyer who's hesitant, but also in that same scenario you just said, where you have a house, you kind of want to sell an upgrade, go bigger. But that exact scenario you just said about the monthly payment going up. So let's use $400 ,000 for an example. I want you to tell me if it's accurate. So right now, buying a house, $400 ,000. And you say, well, no, interest rates are

too high. That monthly payment's too high. But let's say a year from now, a year and a half from now, interest rates normalize, drop down to maybe five and a half, 5%. And you refi. The problem is the low inventory still isn't going away. So if rates do drop, that $400 ,000 house in a year and a half from now could possibly be selling for $460 ,000, $465 ,000. Yeah, you're absolutely 100 % right. So you would have only paid. $5 ,500, $6 ,000 more because of the high

interest rate during that time period. So then you refine and knock your payment down versus paying $60 ,000 more for that house a year and a half. So you've actually came out way ahead by buying now versus when everybody floods the market again because all of a sudden rates are up. It's 100 % accurate. So in that scenario, we'll take a step back just one. So I also do some real estate investing, have a little bit of a portfolio. And I've been investing since

2005, basically. And every time I look back, I don't even have to look back 10 years. Let's just say three years, five years realistically. The only thing that I'm upset about is I didn't buy more property. That's it. That's the only thing that makes me mad. Doesn't matter what's going on. And through 2008 through 2012, that's a four -year span. I consider eight where the drop really started and 12 was kind of the floor and things started bouncing back up, if that's

what you guys agree with. But the properties I bought during that time are still some of the best properties in my portfolio, right? And it's like, well, why didn't I buy 20 more? So it's kind of to speak to that a little bit, Mike, in terms of if somebody chooses to wait. you don't get that time back. You just don't. That time's gone. And then in my opinion, we got like a five -month window right now. Real estate has

seasonality to it, right? School starts, people start getting ready for Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas. That run is just naturally a slower time in real estate. And so we're starting to see some price drops and things like that that we weren't seeing two months ago. Obviously, what price point you're in plays a role. The lower the price point, the more competitive it is. And I'll touch on that here in a second.

But if you can go and buy a house without having to go 10 % over right now, and yeah, you're going to have a rate somewhere in the sevens. But what happens when that same house comes down to 5 %? The prices will go up. It's all about monthly affordability, 100%. So there's so many lenders out there that have really great... refinance programs and, you know, no -cost refis and things

like that. They're setting themselves up because we all expect rates to kind of come down in the next, I expect it maybe closer to the end of 24. But, you know, let's call it 12 to 18 months. We all expect rates to settle in the mid fives, low sixes, where it should be, right? So those house prices are going to go up by 10 % because

the cost. to build the new construction, you can't go buy a brand new house in our area, which is, I mean, considered a pretty conservative area, but price point wise, for less than 400 grand, you know, a three bed, two bath, two car garage split entry, that's 400 grand. If you're trying to buy something under 400, I'd be buying everything I could right now. You know, get something new and nice. That house in my neighborhood is

like 750, 800 all day. And see, that's what's hard about the real estate is just the market through, you know, coastal city versus, you know, middle of what people consider cow town. Best barbecue you ever had, baby. That's a good barbecue. You're always claiming about the Kansas City barbecue. One of these days I got to get there and try it. Come on out. We can do a live show here in Kansas City at one of the barbecue places. We'll go to that. Yeah. Oh, now we're thinking.

Go to like KC Joe's or probably Joe's. Yeah, we could hit a couple. Do a little couple. Yeah. Oh, I like where this is going. Yeah. I'm hungry now. A little barbecue marathon. Let's do it. So we kind of just touched on it. But so like what advice do we have to people who are wanting to buy but they're scared? How do we get people out there maybe to call their realtor that they know and say, hey. I want to pull the trigger,

but I'm scared to do it. Like somebody who doesn't have a house currently or somebody who has a house and they're wanting to upgrade? Because that's a little bit of a different conversation. I say someone that's locked in rent right now. Rental rates have gone up across the country, too. First -time homebuyers are way down, right? So how do we get the younger millennial generation? I'm on the very beginning of it. That millennial generation to become first -time homebuyers.

Yeah, how do you get them out of the basement of their parents' house? Be nice. Be nice. It starts with number one, the sooner you buy a house, the better. The time aspect is part of everything we do in life, not just real estate, but it's extremely important in real estate, in my opinion, because you just can't get any of that time back. Going and buying a house is the number one thing. There's all kinds of studies

out there. Somebody's net worth who... has been a homeowner the majority of your life is you know multiple six figures where a renter's net worth is usually like 20 grand or something like that i can't remember all the studies but you see that and that's based on the equity of their home you know it really is so um number one if you if you have the any ambition of having a network it's real estate's the quickest easiest most encouraged way um you know If you're a younger

buyer, you can sell it every two years and get tax -free capital gains, all that type of stuff, right? So if you could get in your mind, I'm going to pay what it costs to get a house because I know it's the right decision for me and my potential family in the future if I'm already a startup family. Interest rates, it's a couple hundred bucks a month more than maybe what you want, but you're going to look back and be like, what was a couple hundred bucks if it was almost

irrelevant? um i'm old enough my first house i back in the 80 20 days you know that was a big deal get an 80 first 20 second and uh get the seller to pick up five green and closing costs that's how i got my first house and so i think my first mortgage was 6 .875 my second was almost nine and it was irrelevant i sold it in two years Made about $75 ,000, parlayed it into the next one. That's what I'm saying. It gets you in the game. People are so scared

to get in the game. But once you're in the game and you figure out, okay. You have to make a sacrifice here or there, cancel a Netflix account or back off on the cable or something to be able to afford that couple hundred a month. But two years down the road, you are going to be thanking yourself. Absolutely. Because you're going to see, like you said, your equity, how much the house is worth now compared to what it was when

you bought it. If you wanted to sell, you could sell and move to something else and make a little money for a down payment on a nicer house. The first one's never usually your dream home. That's

your starter. getting you in the game it's almost like buying stock and you know the first couple years of playing with the stock market is boring right but then all of a sudden you start seeing things tick tick tick after you've been dumping money until you're like okay okay i got something here it's the same thing with buying a house the same thing with buying a house except for you gotta live somewhere in mom and dad's basement is not the coolest place to be typically and

putting putting money in somebody else's pocket by paying rent every month is so so what's i don't I don't know what the interest rate is. Do you guys know what the interest rate is for how much of that do you get back? When you pay your rent, do you get anything back? No. That's 100 % interest. You're going to be paying to live somewhere. You're going to be paying to live somewhere. You have no tax shelter of any

kind when you rent. You know, if you make improvements to your house, you know, there's some tax strategies that you can do to improve your cash flow to help cover up that interest is because the U .S. government says, hey, we want to encourage homeownership and we're going to offer some tax incentives to do so. So if you're strategic about it, you can kind of fight back. But, you know, 100 percent interest when you're renting sounds. way more expensive than a 7 .5 % house on a $300

,000 house. And the payments really aren't that different. So, you know, if you rent a three -bed, two -bed house, you know, like 1965 ranch, I haven't owned a bunch of those. I rent those for between $1 ,500 and $1 ,750. And you go buy that. If I go buy it, sell that house, it's like a $275 -ish type house. And your payment's about... $1 ,900 with a 7 .5 % interest rate. He's not wrong. I hope the people listening get it. I

hope so. What's crazy is one of the biggest problems, this is a weird tangent on the subject, but one of the biggest problems that is facing the market right now is the low inventory. People not wanting

to sell. you know being more mortgage handcuffed what you said earlier but then also i look around like where we live right this this was always like the town area we live in was always predominantly a single family resident not many businesses like uh what are they there's a term that bedroom community bedroom community there it is and now all of a sudden the past year any most the new building in the area there's been what three new apartment complexes getting built Three new

apartment complexes. There's three new townhouse developments as well. Row house developments. We've got a million of those. Okay, so if you're a contractor, if you're a builder, what's going to get you the most money and bang for your buck? When people need places to live, you're going to build apartment complexes because you can stack so many more people and so many more units. It's not a small space to do in a suburban development, like a single family neighborhood. There's a

little bit of that going on. That's true. You're talking about density. When you put more things under one roof, you have less cost per square foot. That's all facts. Another thing that has to be mentioned when you're talking inventory is all the institutional buyers who have entered the market, they've slowed down their buying as rates have gone up. They've maybe lost some

investments. They pretty much consumed every property that they could get, at least in our area, I'm sure, and North Carolina as well, sub $200 ,000 if they could get their hands on. And when Mike buys his first house, that's a $200 ,000 house, in three to five years, he's going to be selling that house and going and moving up. Well, that first -time homebuyer house has essentially been removed from the market forever.

Okay? So, Mike, when he's going to sell his first -time house in three years, the institutional buyer comes and buys it, and it's essentially going to be a rental in perpetuity until that asset manager says. So, the cost to reproduce a three -bed, two -bed split, if you're going to buy one of those, is now $400 ,000, as we discussed. So, there's that gap that we're talking about. We're not replacing the inventory that was consumed by the institutional buyer. Does

that make sense? Yep. So that puts pressure on the inventory piece. The inventory is out there and there's lots to be built on, but you better be prepared to spend north of $500 ,000 in our market, which, you know, our market, let's consider last year when I achieved luxury status with Keller Williams. You got your baller logo. Yeah, exactly. I've got the magazine I should bring in here for you. But that luxury status is like $750 ,000 is what it was set at two years ago

when we earned that recognition, right? So, I mean, realistically, that's just a nice 2 ,500 square foot, two -story, three -car garage house now where $750 ,000 used to get you. A little more bang for your buck, right? Quite a bit of bang for your buck in our market. For your market, where did Jumbo start? They just raised it. It used to be $615 ,000. What did they raise it to? $7 .25, I think. It's in the sevens. Yeah.

But yeah, the Jumbo market is... To be honest with you, you get better rates there right now anyway. I want to encourage people to be buying

in the jumbo market. Let's say like, you know, you talk about people, people just need to be a little more aggressive when I think anyways, when they're looking around in the market and they want to get into a home and have like a great short story of that is one of my wife's friends, they live a little bit further out, a little more land and they want to move back into a little more like almost, you know. quote unquote city kind of suburban area, right? Yeah.

So this lady, she's super, somewhat aggressive. She's driving through a neighborhood, sees a house that she likes. She wrote the address down, went home and wrote that person a letter and said, I'm Lee. I want to move out of my house by this time in 2024. Will you sell me your house? Oh, wow. And the lady said, yes. You don't ask. Is that's exactly what she says. She goes. You don't know unless you ask. And I'm like, you have some stones on you. And I applaud you because

you drive by a million houses. You'd be like, wow, I'd love to live there. But they're never going to sell. Well, you got to ask them. That's a unicorn story. 100%. It's a big unicorn. However, but you know what? It just made my head explode because, you know, people talk about the inventory. And yeah, while you're talking about builders

picking up. properties are um you know the reits picking up investment properties and trying to they own mike we had an episode about that with a private money and the non -qm way back in like season one i think it was a value name they really the institutional buyers have really really really slowed down i mean almost in the kansas city market um in the st louis market it's a it's maybe maybe 1 % to 2 % of the market, whereas probably almost 40 % of the market at one point.

Yeah. And that's what we found. Like when things were really humming along, like right after COVID and these guys were scooping up properties left and right, you know, when you compare those larger REITs and institutions versus like the private money, so to speak, investors like yourself, you know, those institutions own something like 55 to 65 % of across the country. You know, they're just gobbling them up left and right. It's kind of scary when you say it out loud. Yeah, it's

real scary. Because you know they're not going to go. They're going to sit up. You've got to take the power back. The people have got to buy the houses, and that's who we're talking to. So be more aggressive and get out there and buy that first house. I promise you, in a couple of years, you're not going to regret it. Thank you so much for encouraging me to do this. I got an extra 50, 60 G's I wasn't counting on. It's going to happen. Fake schwo. Schwo knows.

Schwo knows. We thought about putting that on a t -shirt. As you're talking about inventory, that was kind of interesting. You know, the short -term rental business, there's a lot of municipalities who are kind of ixnaying that. And a lot of these people paid, you know, for houses in a competitive market with, you know, pro formas that... we're short -term rental, not long -term rental based. We're short -term rental, obviously you make a lot more money on a monthly basis than you

do a long -term rental. So I can see a lot of those STRs where communities are banning them or requiring licensure and the only people who can get licensed are grandfathered in from being there already. So that might be an opportunity for somebody who's driving around to find out where STRs are. call those owners directly and be like, hey, I saw Kansas City took out the, you got to have this, this, and this. And if you don't have it, I really like the house. I

think it's great. And you can even go rent it for a week and see if you like it, I guess. I'll buy an Airbnb the second you get the news and see what's listed in that town. And those are going to be opportunities to buy houses. We got to be creative in today's market. I just gave myself a listing idea of how to go find listings.

we're just helping you now hey look this you're not wrong though because like we do a lot of str appraisal a lot for a number of like non -qm private money obviously and there's been a lot more of those hurdles if you will over the last i don't know six plus months coming from municipalities saying hey we only have x amount of licenses this dude's coming from somewhere else he doesn't have a license can't do it um Or they're just, you know, cutting them out altogether.

They have to be an LLC. All of it. Like, there's a whole list of them. The SCR game is a little bit of the wild, wild west, right? A thousand percent. It's not a little bit. It's a thousand percent. I don't know how they're underwriting it. It really is. But there's a lot of others who won't touch it. And the people who, but from a... People who own them standpoint, I think a lot of people got into it just because there was so many TikToks about owning SDRs and they

don't even know what they're doing. So many TikToks. That would have been the push. I watch TikToks like an adult. Two weeks later on reels. But yeah, it's just been like how to become, how to make 5 ,000 a month. This is how I made 10 ,000. I bought this property. I bought this property. I did this. I did that. Everybody's like, oh, it's easy. And it's like, no, it's not. It's

not that easy. So, you know, when you're coming to, when you're talking to a client about selling their house, you know, are you providing any like tips or tricks for them to make it, you know, more attractive to get someone, you know, off the fence, so to speak? Oh, absolutely. You'd be amazed at what some new carpet and a fresh coat of paint can do to how the market receives your property. Right. So we to me, everybody has their own appetite for what they're willing

to do or not do. But a lot of people out there, a lot of realtors like such as myself, and I know hundreds of thousands probably have the same type of scenario where I have relationships

with different vendors. and we can go ahead and get you know a paint job done and carpet put in and then um you just sign a contract with the contractor and all of a sudden when your house closes and when you pay them usually the biggest hurdle uh is is you know if it's it's gonna take 10 or 15 grand to get the house where it's at but that's going to create you know 30 to 50 grand more in sales price it's like yeah i want to do that but i just don't have a 15

grand you can You got equity in your home more than likely in today's environment. And we just have the relationships we've built over time that allow us to kind of cover that hurdle with a zero percent interest type deal. That's awesome.

That is a very smart move. yeah business -wise to make those kind of connections that was one of those moments where you should be writing this down because yeah 100 that is excellent advice right there because i will write that down if you're afraid to sell i think you're not going to get enough because like a railing is all worn and messed up or like something's wrong with oh i don't call in about 10 minutes you will so get the work done before the house

hits the market and You know a good realtor like Mr. Priest over here. Well, I think if you're considering selling your house and you know you got a few, like, okay, I raised a couple of young boys and two dogs, gone through two dogs, I need to make these updates. That's a good question to ask your realtor when you're interviewing, trying to decide who you're going to work with. Ask them those types of questions. And then there's other times where I'll just say, hey, listen,

I'm not willing to. recommend you spend a dollar if i can't get you at least two bucks back right and so uh i think you can sometimes be a little more strategic price it a little lower than maybe what the market is and you almost create an auction effect if there's just more to be done than you know just your quick fresh up right so i want to i want to buy a house with you now let's do it you feel so uncomfortable um are you ready for some rapid rush requests is it some rapid

what Oh, he's nervous. Look at his face. Yeah. Rapid rush request. Okay. Okay. All right, baby. Rapid rush requests. We need this appraisal back yesterday. It's a rapid rush, man. We need this thing now. All right, man. So I already know the answer to this question and it's going to make Charlie very happy. But we ask everybody, is it an Android or is it an iPhone? Much to the chagrin of my wife and kids, I'm Android strong. Team Green Dot. Nathan, it's a pleasure

to meet you. You're the ruiner of group texts. I'm ruining group texts across the world. I know. Listen, that is our cross the barrier now. I almost just like to do it on purpose. Yeah, yeah. I love it. So, pretty salty golfer here on the podcast. I'm pretty salty out there. Lefty, too. He swings from the wrong side. Hey, this guy, too. We're kindred spirits, man. We are. This is awesome. Put together your dream golf foursome for me. They could be alive or dead. So you and

three others, what is your dream golf? Ooh, that's a deep one there. I like to have fun on the golf course. And this is just off the hip, so I can't say this is what it would be for sure. But I got to start with my boy, Ethan. Oh, bringing E -Money out there. Yeah, yeah, we have too much fun. And then... Just because I think it'd be really fun to watch everything. I would probably go with Schwo, another guy on the podcast here, and John Daly. John Daly. Round it out with John

Daly. Three of us and John Daly. Oh, just watching you and John Daly go back and forth would be worth it. You guys would be crawling off the course. You wouldn't make it through. We'll be all right. See some veterans. Ethan's got his driver's permit now, so we're good. He's got to be able to get home. Responsible. We'll be responsible. He can't take us all home. Yeah, it was probably, you know, everybody's expecting a little tiger or jack or something, but no,

I like to have fun out there, man. So you played college baseball, correct? I did. I did. And you, if I remember correctly from some stories, you played against one Albert Woltz. I did. So going through high school, We played against each other. Okay, it was in high school. Yeah, he went to Fort Osage. And I was in Raytown. And so we played each other twice during the school year. And then we had Legion Ball. And we were in the same division as we were post

-71 and they were post -21. So I played against him probably 20, 25 times. Don't you have an Albert Pujols story? I got a few good ones. The first time I ever faced him, we'll just do this one, I thought I was really good, right? Lefty, I had a little bit of heat, not much, a little bit of heat, but I thought I was good. We had heard Poodles is amazing, whatever, but I hadn't

faced him. He was the third batter. I had gotten the first two guys out, and then he comes up, and my catcher, good friend of mine, he was the best man at my wedding, whatever. He wants me to throw a curveball. I'm like, nah, man. I'm throwing an inside fastball. So I pump a fastball in, and he hits the ball so hard, it never gets above my head, and I'm short, and it slams into

the fence fast. And before it hits and is rolling back, and before it hits, I turn around, and my catcher, his name is Jeff, he's on me, he's like. we are never throwing him a fastball again. I created a knuckleball just to try and throw something at him that he hadn't seen, but he was a man amongst boys for sure. I always thought he would end up being great, but who knew he would go down as one of the best hitters ever. In my mind, he's one of the best hitters ever.

Longevity. So have you heard the rumors that people are almost convinced that they faked his birth certificate and that when he was in high school, he probably graduated high school instead of at 18 years old, maybe like 22 years old or 23 years old? Yeah. For real? That's the story? It's not real, what you're saying. So where I ended up graduating from, my roommate for a while. was a center fielder for the team he grew up,

you know, at Florida Sage and post -21. And, yeah, I think they've done a really good job of keeping that tight. I can't prove or deny, but there was a drunken night conversation. I was like, there's no way. Exactly. Which, if you go to the end of his career, last season, he went on that hot streak. To get over 700 home runs. Amazing. He's 43 years old right now. So according to records. So if he was really 46, 47, that makes it. That's an even better story.

Yeah, exactly. Makes it that much more impressive that he was that age and still cranking out homers there at the end. That's one. Yeah. Now Pujols was an absolute stud. All right. So this is a tough one. I've never asked this, but you have to eliminate one and you cannot have it again. Okay. Pizza, cheeseburgers, or tacos. Probably. I can't do it. I guess I don't like your question.

That's a tough one, isn't it? I guess tacos, but then I guess eliminate tacos, but I don't like those because burgers are so convenient, right? They got the grab and go at the course as you're making the turn. I guess tacos for that absolutely silly question. We're going to keep that one, dude. That's a good one. That's a good one. I like your rationale on it. Yep. Thank you, Nate. Unless you got any one last message to the people, we appreciate you coming

on, man. It's been good. Don't live your life in fear. Go out and do what's right in your heart. That's it. Amen. Charlie, it's absolutely my pleasure to meet you, man. I hope you do make it up to KC. We'll try some barbecue and all the other fun activities Mike has planned. Oh, yeah. I know he's got it. He'll have a good list. Yes. We'll have a good, we'll have a good time for sure. I'll get, I'll get down there. All right. Well, you guys go out and crush it the

rest of the day. Okay. Thanks man. You too. You do the same brother. Oh man. That was a good, that was a great guest. Good episode. Bringing it. Senior Nathan priest. It's like a, you know, what did ice cube say? It must be a saying, but must be a hit when Nate dog singing on it. There you go. Yep. This is back to value nation, gangsta nation. It's from that song. Gangsta nation. That is eventually going to be, we're going to pay for the rights to that. We need it. Jordan.

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