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Episode 10 - Interview with Jimmy Myers

Feb 24, 202334 minSeason 1Ep. 10
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Get ready for a special interview for episode 10! ValuNation Podcast is joined by Super Heroes to Kids in Ohio Founder and Union Home Mortgage Corp Senior Mortgage Loan Office, Jimmy Myers! In this episode, we'll be discussing his charity work, superheroes, celebrities, and more. You don't want to miss this episode!

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All right, welcome back everybody. Welcome back to another episode. Episode 10. Made it to the double digits. We did not get shut down yet. Feeling really good about it. We have another special guest with us today. We have a, well, he's been around for a while. Me and him go way back, you know, like He-Man and Battle Cats back to early 2000s. Notre Dame and Cleveland Die Hard. So much love from there. Rocky River alumni, another girl dad like us. Former child model, you know, D1 mascot.

If he shaved his face, he might look like Andy Dalton and be able to rock that out in all the town. He's not your neighborhood Spider-Man, but he's always carrying a hammer. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome Jimmy Myers from Union Home Mortgage. Awesome. Jimmy. Happy to be here. My man, Andy's got the Cleveland background. Yeah, I had to change that up. Here's my little Thor figure. Oh, you can't see it. There he is. There it is. Big fan. Yeah, so Thor, right?

Is he like, has he always been your all time favorite Marvel guy? No, he wasn't at first. My original favorite was Wolverine, which I think almost everybody can relate to. I mean, he's probably one of the number one fan favorites. And then it was just with our charity, the guy who had previously dressed up as Thor moved out of town. And honestly, he was like, he was like too big. By the name of Chris Hughes, awesome guy.

And so he actually bought a custom made Hulk costume and he was a better fit for the Hulk. This dude's like six, five, over 300 pounds. Like it was good for the Hulk. So then that Thor costume came available and I had the beard, they're like, here, throw this on. And it just happened to fit, right? The rest is history. Everything fits and the rest is history. And yeah, and then the movie started to come out and everybody's like, okay, you're Thor.

So the hammer, the mantle or the hammer of Thor was passed to me. So this all went down before the movie started coming out. Yeah. Oh, nice. It was like perfect timing. So we founded our charity group, which is called Superheroes to Kids in Ohio in 2010, the summer of 2010. So it was August of 2010. We made our first visit at the Cleveland Clinic. So it was myself, Brian Chulik, our former, my former eighth grade teacher, and Scott Smith, another friend.

So the three of us did a visit to the Cleveland Clinic Children's Hospital dressed as superheroes. And my original costume was Spider-Man. But at the time I was busting out of that Spider-Man costume and it just, it was perfect for the day, but we got there and it was like crazy because we didn't contact anybody. We just thought we were making a visit to the clinic, the Children's Hospital, but there was, there was like crazy media there.

Like the clinic had contacted like all local media outlets, news stations, et cetera. So there was a bunch of cameras, newspapers and stuff there. And so it just got a lot of attention and it happened to be that same summer they were filming the first Avengers movie in Cleveland. So it's just got like a lot of attention, you know, notoriety. And then the funny thing about it was the three of us, you know, who founded the group were all background extras in the Avengers movie as well.

So we got to meet a lot of guys on set, other people like local to Cleveland, Ohio, or around the neighboring suburbs that were one, like huge Marvel fans, two had like a costume or something that they could join up and start making these appearances with us. So that's just kind of how it all came about. That's so cool, man. So are you guys still doing, you guys do hospital visits and what else do you like, like birthdays or do you do anything else? Yep. So good question.

We, so we started kind of small. We were doing like birthdays and stuff, but then that just kind of took off.

And then once we became an official 501c3 nonprofit organization, you know, we started trying to gear more towards like partnering with other nonprofit organizations such as like Jeremy cares, which is another great local organization for health benefit, children's cancer prayers from Maria, which is if you've ever been to Cleveland, the sunflower fields on the side of on the highway, if you've ever seen those.

So we partnered with other organizations in the nonprofit status, the 501c3 kind of helps, you know, with the legitimacy of the organization. And so we stopped doing birthday parties just because that was like, it was too much to be honest. It was every, every day, multiple times a day, people were asking for birthday appearances. And so we kind of just tried to focus on children's hospitals, like the Ronald McDonald house.

We sponsor a room down there every year, which is like where our big budget goes to. It's like five grand a year. And so that way with the Ronald McDonald house does is allows families who are seeking treatment for their kids to stay there free of cost, you know, they don't have to worry about traveling or covering hotel costs while their kids are getting treatment, right? Right.

We sponsor room down there so that way the whole family can stay for free, you know, meals, room and board, everything's covered. And they're there. They're a big partner of ours. We also work with, we do like a golf outing every year to help raise funds. We're doing a 5k superhero run this year. So there's a lot going on. We actually just started being able to go back into hospitals after, you know, the pandemic. So that just started very recently.

So we were kind of on shutdown for a couple of years there, obviously with people with weakened immune. So it was kind of funny though, because at the same time during the pandemic, that's when you know, Zoom got real big, right? So it was kind of perfect the way it all evolved because then kids were able to request like kids in hospitals were able to like log into our Facebook page or our website. Which is usually the easiest way to get ahold of us.

But just because there's somebody always monitoring that they were able to request like specific like, Hey, who's your favorite superhero? Oh, it's Thor or Superman or Spider-Man or it's a Disney princess, right? And they could request a special appearance from their favorite character. So we were able to do Zoom meetings like we're doing right now, you know, one on one or like a FaceTime with that family or that kid in the hospital.

And so, you know, or we would have sometimes large group Zoom meetings where we do like a like a movie night, right? We used to host movie nights once a month at the Ronald McDonald House, but since we couldn't do them in person, we would stream it for free and we'd have like a group watch party with the kids while some of us were on character. So it was fun. Dude, that's great. That's I mean, and yeah, it sounds like it was a struggle at first probably to adjust, right?

And to still get the kids what they wanted. But I mean, that's that's still incredible, man. And you've been doing that for you said it was 2010, right? Yeah, 2010. Man, it's flown by and I forgot about you being extra in that Avengers movie. Yeah, my my five seconds of fame. Your five seconds of fame. Stop it. Let's see. I got to show you, you know, speaking of the baby model. Hold on. I got to pull this picture off your IG. It's not really a baby, but you're you're a stud. Let's see my camera.

Pick it up. I won't pick it up. You and your blurred backgrounds. Oh, is that the child model right there? Yes, a child model. Oh, my goodness. I want to buy that sweater right now. The sweater, the collar out. He was I got to grow the fro back, man. Oh, yeah. It was pretty legit. You got a pretty big fro. I did that in college sophomore year. I didn't cut my hair all year just to see what would happen. And I the fro came back. Oh, speaking of college. So like Mr. D1 mascot.

Pretty Falcon in the flesh. Yeah. He was a bowling green Falcon. So you're out there doing cartwheels and flips. I couldn't do a flip, but I was doing cartwheels. I mean, you were super athletic. You could probably could have pulled it off. No, not with the head. It was oversized head. It was just too big. I tried doing a cargo one time and the head almost flew off. So we had to so it was like it was funny because it was like a hockey helmet underneath, right?

And the chin strap would always pop off. So I had to I had to go get my own chin strap kind of like football. But yeah, this was a hard helmet underneath that they built the mascot head onto. But yeah, you do. I did football and what else? Any other? It was everything. Yeah, because originally they just said it was like going to be men's women's basketball, volleyball, football games and hockey. Right. But you know, now it's everything. Like we go to everything.

We didn't want to limit ourselves just to, you know, those four or five sports. Right. There were so many events on campus, like community events, like out in the community campus events, you know, just going to like the rec center, doing retirement parties on campus, like birthday parties, special appearances. There was just so many requests throughout the day in the week.

So it was just, you know, even the gymnastics thing, like our gymnastics team was awesome and they loved us because not a lot of people would show up at their their matches or their meets. But then when when we would walk in, they would literally just go crazy. And there's a ton of little kids there. So it was it was a lot of fun hockey games were a blast. My first football game I almost passed out, though.

I had to I had to hide in a tent because it was like 90 degrees outside and I was wearing that suit. So luckily, I had one of those like water packs, like a camel pack underneath the suit. So I was drinking water trying to stay hydrated, but it was brutal. Way to adapt. It was the most at college. Did they was it always just just you? Was it just the one mascot? Or did they have multiples to kind of help really? Yeah, good question. Oh, there's four.

So the tradition was four because there's there's a guy and girl mascot. There's Freddie and Frida Falcon at BGSU. They are brother and sister. Right. So Frida is Freddie's little sister and they would just go to everything together. And it was it was a blast. So there was two guys and two girls. And now they just had like the every year they do. So the tradition is you do it for one year.

You start at the end of, you know, when graduation happens commencement and then you go throughout the summer and then. You know, until commencement, when they pick like the new birds or the new mascots. And every year we do an alumni reception up there. We just had it like this past weekend. So it's it's pretty cool. But now they have six, which I guess is crazy. They have six members because the demand and there's so many events going on at all times.

So this way you're able to kind of divide and conquer. Right. So the requests were coming left and right. And I guess there were just so many different requests. So they'd have, you know, one mascot at like a sporting event. They could have another one at a community event or at least a pair of Freddie and Frida is at different events going on at different times. So well, and BG's blown up, right. It's there. They're a lot, a lot bigger.

The whole mascot thing is wild, though, man, because like the reason I asked that is because I know like Arrowhead on game day for the Chiefs, Casey Wolf is their mascot. Yeah. And there's three there on game day just so they can get enough coverage. But the way they do it with the radios and all the coordination is you will never be able to see any two of them, obviously, at the exact same time, the way they work around the stadium during pregame, during the game and stuff and all their visits.

Like there's three doing it at all times, but you will never see more than one with the other. So, yeah, the way they're able to coordinate all of it is pretty. I know. I know. I was just looking for a way to slip in the Chiefs and no, no, no. I used to want to be a mascot. I would. Is it really? Yeah. Casey Wolf would come to our elementary schools and like give a presentation in our gym. And it happened every year.

I don't know how or why, but like I was obsessed that I wanted to be like a Panther at my high school. I wanted to be a mascot, but I played sports and like they never gave me a chance to do it. There was always somebody else doing it. Like I wanted to do that. I think it'd be a blast. Well, that it was. I mean, honestly, it was the most fun.

So that's why, you know, after playing sports in high school and getting up to college, I was like, there's, you know, I tried to do rugby, but after getting too many concussions playing football in high school, they told me I shouldn't play football anymore. Yeah. I go out for the rugby team. Yeah, that's a good idea. No helmet, you don't need it. You're fine. After two weeks of that, I realized that probably wasn't a good idea.

So, but it was also that freshman year where they unveiled like the new mascot costumes, where they were like the big, you know, larger than life cartoon style characters, which were awesome. And I remember saying it when they first unveiled them at that football game was like, I want to do that. And then the opportunity just kind of presented itself my junior year. And that's when I auditioned and tried out and luckily got the job. So it was sweet. That's pretty awesome.

So is that kind of what what started? I feel like that's kind of what started the whole superheroes for kids day. Like, yeah, the mascot thing. It feels like a great transition and like, how to keep that kind of thing going. You saw how other people react to a mascot or somebody costume like that and then kind of rolled into what you're doing now. Yeah, for sure. So I mean, and Charlie can attest to this. I was no stranger to wearing costumes in high school.

So any holiday or any excuse, basically. This is the way. Wait, wait, wait, wait. You're not saying or setting it up right. This dude is in the city parades like St. Patrick's Day. He is like the biggest leprechaun that you will ever see. And he's running strutting down the street. He's on a float like he's a VIP. And this is yeah, he did that in high school, though. Yeah, my uncle had something to do with that one, though. But he he works for the county and he's a big time.

You know, he's been voted Irishman of the Year a couple of times. And actually this year, in fact, but that's a big deal in Cleveland. Yeah. So yeah, so it was fun. So that's kind of where it just, you know, he asked me to march with them a couple of times and that's when I busted out the green suit. So yeah, it was a perfect transition from being the BG mascot to then starting the Superheroes, the kids organization. I even applied after college to be slider for the Cleveland Indians.

But that was a weird situation like that. That application must have just got lost in the mail or something. But oh, well, that's too bad, man. I would love to see you running the bases with everybody. Yeah. Oh, my God. So after his college and like we all we all did the bartending thing at some point or another. Right. And then you eventually became bar manager of Barley House. Is that right? Yeah, I'm actually a GM. So shorts. Barley House is the was or is it still is right? It's still there.

Pretty sweet bar like any and everybody would go there. Athletes, famous people, you know, whoever downtown Cleveland. Yeah. Yeah. Bottle service. The whole you know, the whole night. Oh, yeah. He said it was pretty cool. Yeah. So I remember randomly it might have been around the time when they were filming. It was because it was mid 2000s. But Downey Jr. was there in a VIP section. And they all Jeremy Piven was there one time. So you got any like what's your favorite?

Who's the favorite person you met? Working. Oh, man. I'm going to say this while I try to get upset. The best and my favorite person that I ever had the opportunity to meet down there was Chadwick Bowman. Oh, yeah. He was filming draft day down there and came in with a bunch of the Browns players who I at the time was pretty tight with a few of them. You know, and I just he had just came came off like his Jackie Robinson movie, which I love that movie.

And you know, he's hanging out VIP just kind of chill and doing his own thing. And I'm like, you know, he had his hair cut different style for the movie. Right. And I'm like, that dude looks so familiar. I swear. I just I was like, but he's not I know he's not a bronze player because I got you know, as you guys do probably as well, you keep up with the team and you know, you can probably recognize most of the guys outside of uniform. Right. It's not just seeing them in uniform.

So I'm you know, I'm the GM. So I'm walking up in the VIP section, like taking care of the guys, talking to them. And they're like, you know, you know, like, yeah, you got to meet Chad. And, you know, I got to meet him. And he was just such a humble down to earth, like just awesome, awesome dude to the point where, you know, yeah, I get my business card at the time and exchange numbers with him. And he came in a couple of days that week when he was like wasn't shooting.

And he's like, hey, do you mind if I come in and, you know, just just chill, like grab dinner or grab whatever. And I'm like, man, you can do whatever you want. So he would he came in like a couple of times over the next few weeks. And we just got to sit down and talk and chat. Yeah, just amazing, amazing guy. And I had actually at the time, you know, honestly, no idea where his career would have taken him to, you know.

And then with the Super O saying for him to become like, you know, Black Panther or kind of forever. That was just incredible to see that as well. And yeah, he was by far my favorite. You know, I got to meet him and the one person I actually still keep in touch with today is Joe Russo from Avengers Endgame. Like they were filming Captain America Winter Soldier in Cleveland. And it was pretty funny. They came in and we had a couple of casting crew parties for him.

And that's also when they were opening town hall, the same owners on town hall and West 25th. So they had just opened that. And so when I wasn't working at Barley, I was helping out in town hall. And that's how I got to meet like Russo, the Russo brothers and all those guys. So cool. I've seen the pictures you got up on like IG and everything, like all the athletes, musicians. I mean, actors. That's bad. Yeah, that had to be really cool.

Then I mean, then we all have to grow up and get into the mortgage business, right? I was going to say, what? Did he start slinging loans over? He starts slinging loans instead of bottles. Well, that's exactly I mean, the funny thing is that's how it happened. I met a bunch of guys down at Quicken Loans that would come in doing bottle service VIP and I would, you know, I was I think 30 at the time. And these kids were like 21, 22.

And they would come in once a month, you know, spend their commission checks, bottle service. And I'm like, you know, what are these kids doing? And are guys doing, you know, whatever. And they're like, you know, Quicken Loans, you know, come got to meet someone like the higher ups. They got me an interview and long story short, here we are nine years later. Nine years later. So you are now with. So I mean, you worked for the mothership at one point. Yeah, rocket for for a little while. Right.

Yeah. And then now you're with you're with you, right. But this is like your this is your second time around with them. Yeah. So I got recruited by Union Home Mortgage back in 2015 to help them launch their consumer direct division because they wanted to open up consumer platform. And you know, with my background and knowledge with rocket mortgage Quicken Loans at the time, they recruited a bunch of us. So I went over there and helped them launch their consumer direct division.

And I think that's when you originally came in when you were in town, Charlie, and you know, met with a bunch of guys. And oh, yeah, it was Jeremy. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, they're all great people. I mean, and like Bill Cosgrove is I've met him in the past. He's a great leader. I mean, it shows like they've been around. You guys have been around for quite a long time. It would be like a top 15 lender like every year, something like that. I mean, always.

But it's been it's at least around like outside of Ohio. It's kind of quiet, but you're still there. Like you're rushing it. So second time around now after you've tried you try some other things with Gold Star, was it? Yeah. So what what brings you back? What is it about UHM that that brings you back again? Yeah, after doing consumer direct for a couple of years, you know, I had good success with that. And don't get me wrong.

You know, when I was there, you know, Presidents Club Bankers those two years. But as you as you grow and kind of evolve in the industry, I was realizing like the way to transition, I wanted to transition and switch to retail, you know, for a little more longevity. And, you know, I was one of the at the time, the only self generated purchase guy, I was the only one doing purchase deals. And Jeremy was going to help me with that.

But you know, once you know, we were built off of being like mostly a refi shop. But you know, after doing so many refis, I was like, well, why can't I do a purchase to then learn how to do a purchase deal? And and that was part of the reason why I left, you know, quick and at rocket at the time, because they wouldn't let us do purchases, you know, and we were get. All these referrals coming in and I would have to pass it off to a purchase banker.

So, you know, that was a little frustrating, you know, you know, we're all here to you got to make a living, right. So I'd have to basically give somebody else a deal. Right. And it wasn't always reciprocated. So but then, you know, at UHM, I was able to do my own purchase and refis. And that just, you know, once that built that, it was like, all right, what's the next step? And that's when I wanted to switch to retail.

So at the time, the retail position without any too much detail, it was just like a little discrepancy on how that would handle. And then some of the powers that be didn't really. I guess you say want me leaving consumer direct at the time. So the only way for me to get any experience in retail was I had, you know, I had to look elsewhere other outside UHM. So did that as a gold star for four and a half years, really loved it.

And then tried the broker channel for a little bit and for about six months. And that really, I learned a lot, but it wasn't, we didn't have operations in place. So that wasn't really for me. So then UHM was always there. They were always kind of knocking on the door or calling or checking in from time to time. And then just the opportunity presented itself and it was like kind of right place, right time. Really loved the people, you know, they're only growing, you know, majority.

I'm licensed for South Carolina, Florida and Ohio. Majority of my business coming from Ohio. And, you know, UHM is in our backyard, right? You know, they're, they became our huge sponsor with like the Cleveland guardians, formerly the Indians. They're, they're big with the Cavaliers, the Browns, everything, you know, we have Bernie Kozor. I was one of our national spokesperson people. Oh, that's right.

Yeah. So they were just always like kind of blowing up and being a Cleveland guy myself, you know, when I, when I, when they reached back out again to kind of recruit me, I got to speak with Bill Kozgrove, our CEO. And I got to speak with Al, our president and even our national sales managers. And they were just, you know, the fact that none of those guys had changed positions, they're all still there in a higher position.

You know, it was nice to come back and everybody that I used to work with was still there. And that was just kind of the biggest testament to me was like, all right, this is a good company to have good people. And that's honestly our CEO's like biggest philosophy. He's like, you know, I can teach anybody to do sales. He's like, but if you're, if you're not a good person at heart, a good partner, as they call it, he's like, I don't want you working for me. So I like that. I like that too.

Yeah. I like that a lot. Actually, everybody always wants like my dad had done recruiting for years for different mortgage companies. And, you know, between him and other people, you always see they're always, they tend to go chase some of those high producing guys. But then once they get them in the door, they realize that, A, they're not a team player or B, they just have a bad attitude overall, but they're just about making money. Yeah. And that's huge.

I mean, that's huge for a culture of company and success, right? That's pretty awesome. That was the big thing that kind of brought me back. Just coming back to that culture and not only that, like the coaching and there's so much more, you know, after being like a teams guy my whole life and playing on teams, like, you know, I feel like I'm not at my peak yet. I feel like there's always room to grow and evolve and become better and kind of own your craft. Right.

And, you know, the fact that UHM offers like coaching from some of their top presidents club bankers who have been doing it for 20, 30 years, they're now helping other guys who are newer in the industry or like myself, you know, going on year nine, but only year five of doing retail. Right. So how to really grow my own business and get to that next level. So like that, that alone was like enough reason for me to come back. Right on. That's great.

I mean, and also, you know, you have pretty sweet AMC options like ourselves. Absolutely. Throwing that out there. All right. Let's see. Let's sit you with the with you with our rapid rush requests. Rapid request. Quick hitters of the day. Blue or green dot on the text messages. You an Android or an iPhone guy? I phone. I phone. Sorry, Charlie. Oh, I'm always outnumbered every freaking time. All right. Favorite favorite all time Marvel movie. I think I know, but. All time.

You just sit on the couch on a Saturday with your kid and just maybe not with the kid. Take one out of all of them. This is an unfair question. This is I mean, I got to get them. These are these are rapid rush requests and I'm going to I'm going to say the first Avengers is because I'm in it. You're biased. That's cool. Yeah, there we go. Can we do a sub follow up question like favorite superhero of all time? So I'm I originally, you know, from growing up was always like Superman, right?

True and true. The boy in blue. But, you know, right now, I think Thor is probably got him all over the we can't see it, but I got him all over my office. So like that's kind of like I still have my it's funny. I still have my entire Ninja Turtles collection from when we were kids. But like when it comes to like Marvel, like I just I collect all Thor stuff now. So are you the guy that leaves them in the box? Like you got them all up on the shelves and stuff and graded and graded. Oh, nice.

Very nice kids college fun. Yeah, it will be. Yeah. OK, which is a better party in Cleveland? Is it St. Patty's Day or Christmas in July? Oh, St. Patty's Day hands down. All right. So who's the next Cleveland sports team to win a championship? Right now, I have to say maybe the Cavs again or just because they're playing. I just love seeing it, to be honest. They're playing. They're playing lights out. They have playing really well right now.

So, you know, I know they already won one would have been crazy to see that year 2016. I still can't believe it. You know, after after the Cavs come back from being down three one and then Indians go up three one and then blow that. Yeah, that was a yeah, that was a rough year. Yeah. So I don't know. I would have loved I really, really would have loved to see the Indians. Now the Guardians win the championship or the Browns. But I just feel like the Browns. That's a longer. That's a longer play.

Yeah. Unfortunately, like, you know, back when we have Baker, his first couple of years, I really thought there was an opportunity there with the talent that we had on the team. And I guess that's the most frustrating part is there's just so much talent on that team. They just can't seem to come together as a team to really put the wins where they need to be.

So many close games comes down to the fourth quarter lose by touchdown or three points or whatever turnovers, etc. It's just really frustrating. But as a team, the Cavs right now, I think are playing some of the best basketball I've seen in a long time. And, you know, if they're going to win, if there's going to be another team in Cleveland away, I think it's going to be it'll be done. I mean, parade time. We're going to get there. Yeah, we're going to get braids or braids or fun, man.

The braids are. Yeah, we know you understand. You get the parades. Yeah, we get it. We get it. My last one, and then we'll we'll let you go. So with St. Patrick's Day around the corner. Is it best rumored? Is it sliming still or someone take it? Is someone else going to take it? I've heard like Danny's deli is really good. Not I want to say I don't know anything about Danny's, but Joe's deli and River, which has probably one of the best. I mean, if you want like.

I mean, and Joe's is a good sandwich with Slimans, Slimans. You could eat that ribbon for a whole week and probably want to be be able to finish it. They have the light version, right? Yeah, it's like. And you're still eating that for days. It's literally like a pound of corned beef on that thing. It's wild. It's glorious. Yeah, you can make like I said, you can make four or five sandwiches out of that.

I mean, after having a couple of Guinness, maybe a couple of black and tans, whatever, it goes down really nicely. But couple couple pints. Yeah, you need a couple. You need like a nap. Just a few pints. Just a few. You're right. I mean, well, that's all we got for you. We really appreciate the time. All the info. Keep doing all your awesome stuff. The superhero. Yeah, man. It's really, it's really awesome. You got that going and it's still going strong. Yeah. Thank you guys.

Yeah, we're excited. Like I said, we're doing our first five K run this year and all the proceeds, all the money that we raise, everything goes to benefit, you know, those families and children facing adversity in some way. So it's a it's a fun organization. I'm just, you know, happy and humble to be a part of it. And the fact that I could say I was a founder of the group and it's, you know, with me, our family growing itself and with the pandemic, I had to take a step back.

But it's still there and it's great. We're up to like 100 members now. And, you know, we're like the feature charity at the Comic Con every year, which is now called Fan Expo. But it's awesome. Like, it's really, really cool to just to see the growth and how far we've come. And so such a short, short, short, almost, you know, we're going on year 13. But yeah, thank you. No, it's awesome, man. It's super cool stuff. I'm just happy to hear about it. Yeah, check it out. I will.

I think that's a wrap for us today, buddy. Yes, it is. Yeah, we hope we have everybody enjoyed this episode of Valuation and another great industry guest. Please make sure to go ahead and like subscribe on all the social media channels and turn on those little notifications. Hit that little bell icon. Remember you can find us on Facebook, IG, TikTok, YouTube to see our outfits of the day, Spotify, iTunes or wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts. Peace. Peace. Peace.

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