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Israel Defense Chief in U.S., Attacks in Russia, Two Years Since Abortion Ruling

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Israel's defense chief meets with senior U.S. officials over the conflicts in Gaza and Lebanon, gunmen kill more than 19 police officers and civilians in southern Russia, abortions up two years since the Supreme Court revoked federal abortion protections.

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Israel's Defense Chief is in Washington today. His prime minister asserts that fighting in Gaza will soon wind down. Israelis have not agreed to a ceasefire or a postwar future, so what's the United States to do now? I'm Steve Inskeip with A. Martinez, and this is up first from NPR News. Gunman in southern Russia killed at least 16 people attacking churches of synagogue and a police post. What was the motive?

Also two years after the Supreme Court ended a constitutional right to abortion, women describe how access has changed. It took several thousand dollars in three days. Many states have tightened laws, so how could it be that the total number of abortions has grown? Stay with us. We've got all the news you need to start your day. This message comes from NPR Sponsor Policy Genius, where you can get peace of mind by finding

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This message comes from NPR Sponsor Capella University. Capella's programs teach skills relevant to your career, so you can apply what you learn right away. See how Capella can make a difference in your life at Capella.edu. Israeli Defense Minister Yohav Galant is in Washington this week. He continues the conversation while Israel fights on two fronts in Gaza and the border with Lebanon.

Galant will meet with Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and the Secretary of State Anthony Blinken all at a time when his prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu is at odds with the United States. Adeel Al-Shalce joins us this morning from Tel Aviv. Adeel, welcome. Thank you. Okay. What is Galant trying to do in Washington? So the Defense Minister is expected to discuss the next phase of the war in Gaza and then

the growing tensions in the Lebanese border. Even though the top prosecutor of the International Criminal Court requested an arrest warrant for Galant, the U.S. actually sees him as a close partner in Israel's right-wing government. Galant has been vocal in demanding the Netanyahu come up with a day after plan for Gaza that won't force Israel to be in charge, which is also something the Americans want. Okay. So Galant has been saying that, but Benjamin Netanyahu is the head of the governing

coalition. Where does he stand now? Exactly. So Netanyahu gave a long interview to Israeli TV yesterday where he said that the intense part of the fighting in Gaza is winding down and that he's willing to come to a partial deal with Hamas to release the sum of the hostages, but that would not mean the end of the war completely. And this seems to be contradictory to the deal that the Biden administration is trying to push.

That proposal would lead to the end of the war and a return of the remaining hostages. Hamas said in a statement that Netanyahu's TV interview proves that Israel rejects the Biden administration's ceasefire proposal. Netanyahu also said that with the fighting slowing down in Gaza, Israel could pull some of those troops and send them to the Lebanese border because the focus is now shifting to the tensions with Hezbollah. Is the fighting actually slowing down in Gaza? Well, absolutely not.

The war has claimed, right now, lives of more than 37,000 Palestinians so far, and there were many deadly strikes over the weekend. The United Nations in Gaza said that 39 Palestinians were killed by Israeli air strikes on a refugee camp in the north. Israeli forces said that it was targeting a Hamas military site. And last week, at least 25 Palestinians were killed in strikes on a tent encampments in Lafah. And the United Nations has said that nowhere is safe in Gaza.

That it's been difficult to distribute aid there because of the fighting. And they've also said that public order has collapsed in Gaza. Palestinians are desperate for food and supplies to survive. It's been difficult to distribute aid because of an increasing crime and looting. OK, so now we have to complicate this story because things are happening elsewhere in the region. I'll remind people if you picture Israel on a map, Gaza is a territory that's down toward the south.

Lebanon is up to the north. There has been violence and exchanges of fire back and forth across that border with Hezbollah on the northern side for months and months. What's happening now? Right. Well, you summarize it very well, Steve. The thing on everyone's mind here is a new war starting with Lebanon, especially as there's a lot of pressure by Netanyahu's right wing partners to launch an offensive in the north. Hezbollah, though, is much stronger than Hamas.

The group started to fire at Israel on October 8th, and the cross-border fire has been escalating since. And there's a bigger fear that a new front with Hezbollah would trigger a regional war pulling in Iran. American officials visited Lebanon and Israel last week trying to calm things down. But the U.S. has also said that it probably won't be able to help Israel in a broader war with Lebanon the way that it did in Gaza.

And yesterday, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff warned that could put American troops here at risk. American troops. Sen. Piers Adil al-Shalcey, thanks very much for the update. Really appreciate it. You're welcome. All right, at least 19 people are dead and 25 more wounded after armed gunmen launched attacks on several religious sites in southern Russia.

This is the region called Dagestan, which is a majority Muslim region, home to a diverse group of ethnicities and religious faiths, and also home to Islamist extremism. Joining us now to discuss it is NPR's Charles Mainz in Moscow. So Charles, what have you learned about this attack and how it happened? Yeah, good morning.

You know, authorities here say these attacks were well planned and coordinated, taking place near simultaneously in Dagestan's capital of Mahatchikolah, as well as in the coastal city of Durbent, that's just to the south on the Caspian Sea. Within minutes, gunmen opened fire on a synagogue, which subsequently caught fire. It's worth noting that Dagestan has a small but ancient Jewish presence.

The gunmen then also attacked a police traffic post in two Orthodox Christian churches, killing a local priest. Witness videos showed police subsequently engaged in a series of fire fights with the attackers. Local officials, they officers, make up the majority of confirmed casualties thus far, even though news reports suggest a number of dead and injured may grow. All right, the gunmen have they been apprehended.

Well, as you might imagine, there's been quite a bit of confusion and conflicting reports over the past several hours. Here's what we do know. There was a man hunt for the gunmen last night with all roads to Mahatchikolah. That's the capital again, a sealed off by security forces and reports that several other gunmen had barricaded themselves in a building in Durbent.

Now as of this morning, authorities haven't provided any details other than to say that the active phase of a counter-terrorist operation had ended. They say they had five, some say perhaps six of the attackers had been liquidated. It's well not answering the more key question out of how many to begin with. So how are authorities in presenting theories as to whose behind this and why it happened?

Well, as you and Steve mentioned in the intro, you know, Dagestan is home to this, has this history of Islamic fundamentalism as does most of Russia's northern Caucasus region. And the fact that these attackers struck a church and a synagogue in particular will raise eyebrows. There was an ugly episode in Dagestan last fall. This is what's in the wake of the start of the war in Gaza, where rioters rampaged through Mahatch Kalaz airport, looking for Jewish passengers on a flight from Tel Aviv.

That said this morning, the governor of Dagestan, Sergei Melikov, issued a video on social media saying the gunman's goal was to divide Russian society. Any suggested authorities knew who ordered the assault, but are keeping it under wraps for now. Let's listen. So here Melikov says investigators are working to identify all the participants in the attack, which he says without question, was in part prepared from abroad.

Now, that sounds a little like how Russian authorities reacted to that attack on a concert hall in Moscow earlier this year. You know, it does. It does. And to remind people, this was when several gunmen stormed a concert venue in Moscow and set fire to the premises over 140 people died. A branch of the Islamic state later claimed responsibility.

But Russian authorities, including President Vladimir Putin, repeatedly insisted Ukraine and the West instigated the attack, paying these men to slaughter Russian civilians. And so with this case in Dagestan, it's still early days, but we'll be watching to see if authorities take a similar line. All we know for sure is that Russia's investigative committee has launched a criminal investigation into what they're calling acts of terror. All right, Charles Mainz in Moscow. Thank you very much.

Thank you. We have an update now on the fight over abortion two years to the day after the Supreme Court ended a constitutional right to it. States have debated the issue ever since. Some already had laws that instantly banned the procedure. Republican-dominated legislatures soon added to them. Many women have described dramatic changes in access among them, Lauren Miller of Texas who testified before Congress.

A 15-minute procedure that could have been done three miles from my house took several thousand dollars in three days. Also since the court ruling, voters have turned aside some efforts to restrict abortion, including in more conservative states such as Ohio and Kansas. The overall effect on abortion in this country is surprising. And PR's Alyssa Natwerny covers reproductive rights and is on the line. Good morning. Okay, what's the surprise?

Well, the number of abortions is actually up across the US. It is true that access is a lot harder. Fourteen states have near total abortion bans, and many others have restrictions on time limits. You know, it's actually been a time of chaos and confusion because there are a lot of new laws and then legal challenges. So it's hard to know what the law is where you live. And yet abortions are up. Well, why given all that you just said would the number of abortions grow over the past two years?

Yeah, so it really has to do with how people access abortions more than half are with medication. And there's been a major rise in telehealth. So you don't have to go in person to get treated. You could get pills in the mail. Even people in band states can access pills from providers in places like Massachusetts in New York, where they have laws that allow them to send pills to places like Texas or Mississippi and give them some legal protections, at least in their own states.

Okay. So it sounds like people in the band states still get abortions. What else is happening in those states? Well in states with bands most clinics have closed and in their place, crisis pregnancy centers, often with an anti abortion agenda have sprung up. Jenice fountain runs a reproductive justice organization in Alabama where there is a total abortion ban. So in Alabama, some things that I have noticed, there's a lot of folks that are bursting now.

They're like, I would have rather exterminated and like, you know, birth later on in life or not at all again. So more women are having children. Okay. Also happening many different trends here. What about people who are traveling out of state for an abortion? Yes, that's definitely happening and makes up about a fifth of all abortions. Last year, 171,000 patients traveled out of state. That's according to data out this month from the Goopmacher Institute, which supports abortion.

Lauren Miller, that mom from Dallas, you heard earlier, she was pregnant with twins. Her doctors told her that one twin wasn't viable and was threatening the life of the other twin and making Lauren really sick. But her doctors were unable to do what's called a single fetal reduction because the state has multiple laws banning abortion. Miller testified on Capitol Hill earlier this month about having to go to Colorado to get the procedure.

The bounty laws in Texas had us worrying about who could turn against us. Was it safer to attempt 12 hours in a car through rural Texas while I was violently ill? What have I got worse? We knew flying was faster, but what if I was pulled out of the security line and questioned or not allowed on the flight because I was too sick? Can we leave our cell phones at home and rely only on cash to prevent being tracked? Okay, so that's the testimony. What are you watching for in the months to come?

Well, first abortion could be on the ballot this fall in as many as 10 states. And then I'm looking for themes. So efforts to limit travel across state lines, Idaho and Tennessee have passed laws criminalizing adults who support minors seeking abortion care in other states. And along those lines, efforts to limit medications used in abortion, the Supreme Court held off a challenge to the way Mifha Pristone was approved by the FDA, but we could see additional legal challenges.

And there's another Supreme Court decision expected as early as this week about access to abortion in emergency room situations. And then, you know, Steve, finally, we're seeing ideas around reproductive rights that were once more fringe edge into the mainstream. So things like criminalizing abortion seekers and opposing IVF. So I will be watching all that. Melissa, thanks for the update. Really appreciate it. Thank you, Beth, Steve. That's NPR's Alyssa Nadwarni, who covers reproductive rights.

And that's a verse for Monday, June 24th, on the Martinez. And I'm Steve Inskeep. Consider this. On the next consider this from NPR, President Biden says he can secure the southern border and help some immigrant families who are already here. Big shifts in policy that reflect big shifts in politics. How does that affect the election? Listen to consider this. Today's episode of up first was edited by Kevin Drew, Catherine Leidlod, John Hilton, Olivia Hampton, and Lisa Thompson.

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