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Under The Gloss with Phoebe Burgess

Vogue Australiawww.vogue.com.au

Under The Gloss doesn’t just scratch the surface, we go deep into conversations you didn’t know you needed to hear. Phoebe Burgess unpacks everything from sex, relationships, cancel culture and social media through the lens of honest and compelling conversations with experts, celebs and brave people with a story to share. No topic is off limits: if you’re Googling it or sharing it in your DM’s, Under The Gloss is talking about it.

 

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Episodes

Bruna Papandrea on the stories that make her tick

Producers are often the people that work in the background; we don't know their names, and they're hidden behind the star power of their directors, or their cast. But Bruna Papandrea brings all the star power of her own. After all, she co-founded a production company with Reese Witherspoon and produced blockbuster productions like Big Little Lies and Gone Girl, and then five years later she launched her own production company Made Up Stories which has been behind award-winning television like Ni...

Nov 29, 20231 hr 1 min

The village of strong women behind Lucia Hawley

Lucia Hawley is only 25, but she's already the host of 7Bravo and face of Live From E ! - taking centre stage as a journalist on the red carpet and nabbing some of the best quotes from the stars. But while she admits it did take a lot of hard work to get here, she credits the powerful women in her life with 'lifting her up' - something that she is constantly trying to do in her own right. It's no secret that Lucia's mother is Antonia Kidman, and Oscar-winner Nicole Kidman her aunt, and on this e...

Nov 24, 20231 hr 6 min

Bella Heathcote on tall poppy syndrome, sex scenes and the importance of therapy

Bella Heathcote has been working as an actress for almost two decades, but it's only now that she has found confidence in her craft. On this episode of Under The Gloss, Phoebe and Bella sit down for a conversation that covers everything from the role tall poppy syndrome has played in Bella's career to how the death of her mother when she was 12 continues to influence her characters, more than 20 years on. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

Nov 16, 202356 min

In death, Lee Miller is finally being heard

For a woman who died at just 70 years old, Lee Miller seems to have squeezed a hundred different lives into one lifetime. After all, who else could say that they had been pulled from the path of a car by Condé Nast himself, modelled across the pages of Vogue, studied photography and collaborated with famous surrealist Man Ray in Paris, as well as becoming one of the first and only female frontline photographers in World War II. And yet, it wasn't until her son Antony went through her attic after...

Nov 09, 20231 hr 54 min

Michelle Battersby is a self-confessed 'career woman' - and she's pregnant

Michelle Battersby is, by her own admission, a career girl. After flying through uni on a rowing scholarship, she got a “good” job at an esteemed company - but at 24, after doing everything “right”, she wasn't happy. And so she took a leap of faith, and started working with an app that, at the time, was very new to Australia - Bumble. The rest, as they say, is history. In 2023, Michelle is the co-founder of another app that is disrupting the status quo. Her tech start-up, Sunroom is revolutionar...

Nov 03, 20231 hr 14 min

Meet the women behind Ellie Goldstein's historic Vogue cover

Ellie Goldstein has been modelling since she was 15, when she went to a casting in London for inclusive talent agency Zebedee. And from the moment she stepped in front of the camera it was clear she had the IT factor. And now, only six years later, she’s made history as the first model with Downes Syndrome to appear on the cover of British Vogue - a feat that many models would consider to be the pinnacle of their career. On this episode of Under The Gloss, Phoebe is joined by the woman who made ...

Oct 26, 20231 hr 15 min

Why the founder of Triangl flipped her life upside down

In 2012, Erin Deering and then-partner Craig launched a business that would become one of the most iconic bikini brands in the world. Instagram was just beginning and Erin had a brainwave: why not gift some of their product to up-and-coming celebrities on the platform, and see if that boosted the profile of the brand? And not long after, Triangl bikinis exploded - and a new age of marketing was born. In this incredibly candid episode of Under the Gloss, Erin opens up to Phoebe about life behind ...

Oct 19, 20231 hr 8 min

Principal ballerina Amber Scott is about to take her final bow

Amber Scott fell in love with dancing at five years old, when she watched Swan Lake performed at Brisbane's Lyric Theatre. She joined the Australian Ballet in 2001 and 23 years on, she's preparing for her final performance, or her swansong - and in a full circle moment, she will be dancing as Odette. On this episode of Under The Gloss, Amber joins Phoebe to share some backstage secrets about life as a 'bunhead', the way motherhood has both liberated and challenged her as a principal dancer and h...

Oct 12, 202358 min

Trent Dalton on powerful conversations and the magic of Australian kitchens

Brisbane journalist Trent Dalton is no stranger to the power of storytelling in Australia, and he's got a suite of Walkleys and Kennedys to prove it. But when he published his first fictional novel in 2018, even he was blown away by it's success. Boy Swallows Universe has sold millions of copies and there is a Netflix series in the works - and it's been followed up by three more books that similarly endeavour to highlight those lesser-told stories that ring true for many Australians. With Lola I...

Oct 05, 20231 hr 4 min

Claire Harvey tells the stories of victims every day. But does it take a toll?

Claire Harvey is a journalist at The Australian, and she is the woman behind all your favourite podcasts. She was an integral part of the team that produced The Teacher's Trial and The Teacher's Accuser (follow-ups to the world-renowned The Teacher's Pet), and she has also been an editorial director on other harrowing podcasts out of The Australian, like Shandees Story and My Sisters Secret. And to top it all off, she’s currently hosting The Australian’s The Front podcast, which delivers a daily...

Sep 27, 20231 hr 7 min

Jelena Dokic is 'fascinated' by the comments she gets from trolls

It was nearly thirty years ago when Australia fell in love with the teenage tennis prodigy that was Jelena Dokic. In 1999, Jelena was 16 years old and dominating Wimbledon - but behind the scenes, she was living a personal hell at the hands of her father. It took the best part of two decades for Jelena to tell her story, but in 2016 she released Unbreakable , which became an instant best seller. And now, she's followed it up with Fearless. In this episode of Under The Gloss, Jelena joins Phoebe ...

Sep 21, 20231 hr 2 min

Hannah Diviney has been defying the odds for as long as she can remember

While just a few short years ago, Hannah Diviney was drinking in the world of celebrity, pop culture and social justice online, she never imagined that she might be at the centre of it. But in 2023, Hannah is one of the most powerful voices in disability advocacy and has more than a few claims to fame; she's the editor-in-chief of a fast-growing media technology company, she's persuaded two international artists to change offensive song lyrics and she's starred in an SBS series that shattered ma...

Sep 15, 20231 hr 1 min

Pip Edwards wants to correct the record

Founder and director of streetwear juggernaut P.E. Nation, Pip Edwards has been a staple in the Sydney style scene for decades. On this episode of Under The Gloss, Phoebe and Pip sit down for a classically chaotic conversation that covers everything from Pip's experiences of early menopause and raising the 'ultimate' man, to the frustration that comes with being defined by your dating life. In a characteristically open and honest chat, Pip and Phoebe are here to 'own their s***', lean in to surr...

Sep 06, 202353 min

Kaylee McKeown on what it takes to break a world record

Kaylee McKeown knows a thing or two about winning. At just 22 years old, the Australian swimmer currently holds multiple world records, took home three gold medals at the Tokyo Olympics and is the proud recipient of an OAM, which she was awarded in 2022. In this episode of Under the Gloss, Kaylee and Phoebe dive into what it means to represent your country on a global scale, the mentorship she has found in fellow swimmer Emily Seebohm and why life didn't look the way she expected after breaking ...

Aug 31, 202350 min

Jess Mauboy sings her way through a chat about vulnerability, sisterhood and super-stardom

Jess Mauboy first appeared on Australian Idol in 2006, as a young 16-year-old belting out Whitney Houston in the red dirt of Alice Springs. Nearly two decades late, her star has never stopped soaring; Jess is about to return to our screens as a coach on this season of The Voice Australia, before she drops her fifth studio album and embarks on a national tour in early 2024. On this episode of Under The Gloss, Jess joins Phoebe for an episode that is full of music and laughter, chatting about ever...

Aug 23, 202359 min

Jess Hill wants us to start talking to kids about sex

Consent education has quickly become one of the biggest conversations in Australia, and Jess Hill has been right at the forefront. The critically acclaimed author and journalist co-produced the brilliant SBS series Asking For It, which investigates the complexities of consent in Australia at the moment as the country is gripped by what she calls an 'epidemic' of sexual violence. In this episode of Under The Gloss, Jess joins Phoebe to talk about where to start when it comes to educating people a...

Aug 16, 20231 hr 1 min

School shootings and sex talks: Tammin Sursok Pt. 2

When Tammin Sursok goes to the movies in the US, she's not thinking about the film - she's thinking about her closest exit in case there is a shooting.When her kids go to school, they use bulletproof backpacks. They even wear velcro shoes so they don't trip if they have to run away from a shooter. It's the terrifying reality of life in America, where she spends half her time when she's not in Australia. The actress joined Phoebe Burgess to chat about everything. Sex. Marriage. Hormones. Periods....

Aug 09, 202329 min

Trauma, fame and being a hormone junkie: Tammin Sursok Pt. 1

Tammin Sursok lives by her hormones, regularly goes to therapy so her marriage thrives and is dealing with the trauma that came with being famous so young. The actress joined Phoebe Burgess to chat about everything. Sex. Marriage. ADHD. Fame. Disordered Eating. Trauma. Nothing was off limits. TRIGGER WARNING: This episode may be distressing to some listeners. We will be discussing disordered eating and body image, so please listen with care. If this episode raises any issues or concerns, you can...

Aug 04, 202339 min

Changing the game with Nina Funnell - Part 2

Nina Funnell is many things, but gamechanging journalist is the hat she wears most proudly. In this two part conversation, Nina discusses working with Grace Tame, and how she helped change the system for the better while reflecting on her own experience with sexual violence. Trigger warning: This episode may be distressing to some listeners . We will be discussing sexual violence, so please listen with care. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

Aug 01, 202340 min

Changing the game with Nina Funnell - Part 1

Nina Funnell is many things, but gamechanging journalist is the hat she wears most proudly. In this two part conversation, Nina discusses working with Grace Tame, and how she helped change the system for the better while reflecting on her own experience with sexual violence. Trigger warning: This episode may be distressing to some listeners . We will be discussing sexual violence, so please listen with care. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

Jul 25, 202352 min

FIFA, footy and viral videos: Mel McLaughlin

The little football-mad girl inside Mel McLaughlin is losing her mind. The sports presenter is embarking on the biggest moment of her career - the FIFA Women's World Cup, which has kicked off in Australia. In this episode of Under The Gloss, Mel joins Phoebe to talk about how she became one of the country's leading sports broadcasters, the moment a boss told her she was wearing too much blush, and why she's writing off her personal life. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

Jul 19, 202346 min

Logies nominee Marta Dusseldorp dared to fail

Fresh off the back of a Logies nomination for her television show The Twelve, Marta Dusseldorp is embarking on a new project. She wrote, starred in and produced Bay of Fires, a series soon to debut on ABC that tells a story unlike any that we have seen in Australia before. On this episode of Under the Gloss, Marta joins Phoebe in the studio to talk about daring to fail, the role that mentorship has played in honing her craft, the importance of writing stories in Australia and why now is the mome...

Jul 12, 202355 min

Kirli Saunders is a proud Gunai woman - and she's exhausted

Kirli Saunders is many things: she's a multi-award winning artist, she's walked the runways of Australian Afterpay Fashion Week and she's a celebrated educator that has taught children in classrooms around New South Wales. But first and foremost, she's a proud Gunai woman - and a storyteller. On today's episode of Under the Gloss, Phoebe and Kirli are talking about how she learned to connect with her country, why matriarchy is so important for First Nations families and why being Blak in the cur...

Jul 05, 202350 min

Inside the closet doors of Sex And The City

It's no secret that Sex And The City was iconic in the world of fashion - and the series spinoff And Just Like That has followed in the same vein. But who are the people behind the scenes that have brought all the looks in the iconic franchise to life? In this episode of Under The Gloss, Phoebe sits down with costume designers Molly Rogers and Danny Santiago to talk about some of the most notable scenes across the series, whether it be the antique bird that Carrie brought back in the latest seri...

Jun 28, 202345 min

The seven sins of Elise Loehnen

Elise Loehnen might not feel like a celebrity at first glance, but her work is something that we're all extremely familiar with. Once in the pocket of wellness queen Gwyneth Paltrow as Goop's Chief Content Officer, Elise co-hosted the hit Netflix series Goop Lab, as well as the Goop podcast. But now, she's here to talk about something that is entirely and completely hers - her newly released book, On Our Best Behaviour: The Price Women Pay To Be Good. On this episode of Under The Gloss, Phoebe a...

Jun 21, 20231 hr 1 min

Linda Marigliano found the confidence to tell the world what she wanted

Linda Marigliano is no stranger to talking on microphone; she was a celebrated presenter on Triple J for many years, and more recently, she hosted the podcast series Tough Love. But, it's only post-pandemic that she feels like she's really cracked open her inner world and been able to dissect some of the complicated relationships she has with her loved ones. On this episode of Under The Gloss, Phoebe talks to Linda about what it means to be truly vulnerable and truly authentic, unpacking the com...

Jun 14, 202356 min

The makeup artist behind Anne Hathaway's Renaissance

Gucci has been one of the most sought after makeup artists in the glamorous world of magazines for decades. She was behind the Jennifer Anniston Allure cover in the tiny Chanel bikini; pregnant Brooke Shields on the cover of Vogue and the Anne Hathaway beauty renaissance of the past year or so. On this episode of Under the Gloss, Phoebe and Gucci sit down to talk all things makeup and beauty, from some of the most iconic covers Gucci has worked on, to what it takes to launch a brand like Westman...

Jun 07, 202357 min

Simone Kessell isn't afraid of female rage and female trauma - she's embracing it

Simone Kessell has been acting for over 20 years - a few highlights from her extensive body of work include the original Australian favourite Heartbreak High and the iconic Hercules series. But at 47, it's her latest project that has gathered something of a cult following. With two seasons under their belt, Yellowjackets has already developed an intense fandom who are singing the praises of a drama series that finally portrays trauma and female rage in a new and complicated way. And Simone is he...

Jun 01, 202356 min

Motherhood in the competitive world of science

Few things excite Dr Vanessa Pirotta quite as much as whale snot. It might sound like a bit of an unusual interest, but Vanessa is a wildlife scientist that specialises in marine mammals, particularly the humpback whale. On today's episode of Under The Gloss, Vanessa joins Phoebe in the Vogue studio to talk about what it means to be a woman in a field that has been traditionally dominated by men, how she's navigated parenthood in the world of STEM and the ways that whales have shaped her perspec...

May 24, 202357 min

The Charlotte Ree heart-to-heart you’ve been waiting for

Charlotte Ree thought she had life all figured out. She met her ex-husband when she was 19, was married at 27 and had a five-year plan in place that filled her up. Until it didn't, and at 29 she and her husband separated. Two days later, Sydney entered its first COVID-19 lockdown, and Charlotte was forced to reckon with what it meant to be alone. On today's episode of Under The Gloss, Phoebe and Charlotte dive into the harsh reality of heartbreak, and how to put yourself back together again and ...

May 17, 20231 hr 4 min
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