ANGIE KATSANEVAS (RHOSLC)

To Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamra Judge.

Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of two Teas in a Pod.

I'm sorry to camera Judge, it's not like want to be.

We are having Angie K, the good Angie as we always like to call her.

I gotta say this though, I do kind of miss Angie H. Who's that time?

I know you always say that, but like she did bring a little bit to the show. But we have Angie Can. We're getting a lot of juicy details during the live show. But there's some things that I'm scared the fans aren't going to ask Angie that we need.

To kind of okay, we're digging in.

Okay.

Things that I'm going to say about my personal knowledge about Angie K in a complimentary fashion. One, there are very few housewives that I see outside of the housewife world that are regular functioning humans that are there doing things with their family, living the life and one hundred percent in it. And I have seen a like I go to horse shows, I see Angie. She is there with her daughter. We are both hot messes expresses, running after them, taking care of them.

She does have those shades on even at the horse shows.

But Angie, you're the real deal, and I think you're the real deal when it comes to your business, when it comes to your husband, your husband, your parenting, your father, all the things. So that I don't want you to think because we're going to come at you for some certain things that we don't really appreciate you and love you, and you're somebody we would be friends with whether you are on the show or not be on the show, because you're real.

But now we're going to get to business.

Now it's happening. Why do you not want Monica on the show? Did you guys band together to not have her on the show?

Nobody band together and nobody asked. I know, in all my interviews with production, will you film with Monica? Was not a question. Her name never came up in my interviews. And it sounds like that was, you know, the running theme throughout the cast. So nobody stood together and said we will not that that. I wasn't a part of that. I don't think that even happened. But I think the writing is on the wall that the trust has been lost.

Well, do you think I have a question for our producers here because I don't know the answer to this question. Has there ever been a housewife, a first season housewife that has gotten the first seat that never came back again?

No, not that I know of.

No, there's so the fact that I at least need to get a little bit.

Of when you say first seat, somebody that had the first seat and the yeah, like I first see it then fired?

Yeah, Like I don't think Peggy Shulian was first seat. She got last seat. Yeah, like a hundredth housewife. I mean I got fired and I was never even.

Have fallen off the chair. Nobody would have noticed.

But so I think that shows the amount of impact that she had she had on the show. But my my true question, and then I'll take it over to Tamra when we really talk about it and we really break it down.

Yes, was Monica reckless?

Yes?

So she had taken accountability for the things that she did, and had she taken some accountability and stopped aid shaming and stopped doing all of those things. Is there was would there have been more of a place for her. Yes, all of that, I agree. I do not think she showed out and showed well at the read now. However, I do think I would be more concerned if there was a person that I was filming with who covered up being punched in the face allegedly by somebody else

And that's just how I feel. Do you not see that portion?

You know?

For me? Because I have kind of been in a similar situation with Jen that Heather was in. I know other women on the cast have been in that same situation where there was I don't even want to use the word fear. But she was there from the beginning, and there were friendships formed, there was history there. She was on the show. When the women saw Monica coming in and repeating the same behaviors they had just gotten rid of what they know what.

They hadn't gotten rid of the federal's prisons.

YEA had gotten and it was it was like this, I got rid of that girl.

It was this sigh of relief that, oh my god, finally we're done.

People can ride.

They were the time they weren't done. Heather was still protecting her. Heather would not come out. She actually, from what we heard on the reunion, and I heard this because we have some of the same production people, she blamed it on production and jeopardized their jobs. And they don't make a ton of money, but they jeopardized their jobs. There's an internal investigation about this. And then was joking about, Oh, it was probably production. That's not cool.

Yeah, And and she she admitted that, she admitted she was wrong. She admitted that that was dangerous.

But she still never told us the story. How did she get the black eye?

Here's the thing, if she wanted to come forward in one hundred percent, tell us how she got the black eye. Listen, have I been blackout drunk on the television show one million percent? You want to know what my behavior was, grabbing a shit ton of chips and talking shit about somebody.

I wasn't punching somebody in the face.

But let me just.

Before we start going, We're not going after you, but I'm saying that's not what we want to do. If anybody, if anybody on that cast should hate Monica, it's you. And after your husband, I've experienced that. She went after your career, she said you were in the mafia, all these things. If anybody should hate her.

It's you. Yeah, it's you.

But do you see the good of her on the show?

Uh?

For that one seat? For that one season.

Yes, she activated people with lies, She activated people with alleged rumors that were untrue, But she knew that was the only box that she could check as a housewife, and she used it. At this point, moving forward, everything she says will fall flat. She's been exposed as a liar. She's been exposed as a troll. She's been exposed as a fraud. No one even knows who she is. No one knows her real name. There's such a question mark there.

It will flow.

But when it comes to showing your real life, and granted, yes, she did a lot of lying, She did a lot of things that are unfortunate. But seeing her with her kids, saying with her with her mother, seeing the hardship she's gone through TV that I'm not trying to be an asshole. She showed more and three episodes than the majority of the rest of the cast have shown the entire time.

Love Lisa Barlowe.

Do I give two shits about getting that email from the Mormon Church on where he's going on his thing?

And is that great television? Absolutely not.

Yeah, and listen, listen.

That's why there are characters that relate to different religions, different people, and there's a lot of people that related to Monica's story. There's a lot of Mormons that relate to Lisa, Greeks that relate to me. Right, But what I will say about Monica, I am all for the underdog. I have been raised very humble. My parents lived through the Depression. They were starving, they had no food, no water, no shoes. I was raised so humble, so down to earth.

No, this show is.

Trying to take bitches out, or do you think she was trying to take off, take out jin Shaw and you guys were all collaboral damage.

Look before she started filming with me. I have now screenshots, proof, timeline, all of the receipts. She's planning to come on and take me out like I was her.

I think I was going to be a real friend to her. I've seen it. I've seen her.

Friends have told me she had a plan to blow me up, to blow my spot, to take me and I was a competition.

No, no, no, I've seen the shots. Yeah.

The girls tried to ice me out too for two seasons. And guess what I did. I stood strong in my truth. I was honest, which which gained respect from the viewers, which turned the fans.

To love me. Because I was truthful.

I spoke in facts, I spoken real conversations. I held my own and I was me. I had the same name that I that is on my birth certificate. I didn't change it when I was married. I am me and I presented my real self, my real life. And I didn't lie. When you lie, you lose respected the fans.

Once the trust is gone. Non believe a fucking thing you do.

But I have a question you.

Were being iced out, yeah that first time.

Let's talk about Trixy Hotel.

Yeah, I won't tell.

So you went Trixy Hotel, you were not invited, you were brought on, you were They didn't want anything to do with you.

So why and.

How can you forgive Meredith who was clearly you had already gotten your snowflake and she was doing everything in her power to not let you be part of the group.

Why do you give her so much grace?

I don't give Meredith grace. And I think one was dirty and the other was dirtier. They were in it together, and I think Meredith finally realized, ooh, I'm I'm partnering up with the wrong person in this group, and she backed up, but it was too late. She was involved. I don't trust her.

Is that why she was so calm and bermuda because she knew?

That's how I feel. I have zero proof.

But she she didn't have a whole lot to say.

But what was Meredith's issue with you? That's what I cannot reconcile.

That's why I don't understand it.

I have no idea what other than there's I have no idea. I wish I could say what it was. I don't even think she had a real reason to try and nice me out and to try and take me out. And you know, she she thought I was a fraud, She thought I was laundering money.

She thought I didn't organize crime.

Where do you think this this came from?

Uh?

You know, maybe she was carrying the torch for Jen.

But but I don't think she's carrying any torch for Gen. I don't think she likes Jen at all. But where, like the whole do you blame Meredith at all? Because Meredith clearly had a conversation with Monica off camera talking about this.

I think Meredith likes to dig on people, and I think she was hoping that these rumors about me being an organized.

Please say yes, yes, yes. I think I.

Think Meredith was hoping that these glooms of me being an organized crime, that I launder money, that I have a deceptive husband, that I was living a double fake life, that I wasn't a real business owner in Salt Lake City and a pillar of the community. As I say, I think she wanted to believe all this to be true and it's not, And once she found out it wasn't, she had no leg to stand on, so she had to start back peddling.

But does she live in Salt Lake City?

She doesn't know one thing about me, And if she was from Saltlake City, she wouln't know who I was. And you know that's where she went wrong. She wanted to assume that Angie's a fraud trying to get on the show. No, I deserve to be on this show. I am true representation of Salt Lake City business family.

But do you believe there's any housewife in the history other than I've talked about this with Tamra, other than from like a bajillion years ago when Housewives originally started that don't want to be on the show. We had to be very clear you wanted to be on this It's fun.

I'm like willing to throw my hat in the ring.

I don't think there's anything wrong with somebody coming in hot trying.

To get I have real friendships with the ladies.

Is there any part of you that can move forward with Monica? Monica reached out to.

You, Monica's not reached out to me. I don't trust Monica. I also think of she.

Can you trust anybody on your cast?

I do I do I know this is I know your pause is slightly concerned. I'm willing to name them, and I know you guys are gonna scream. But right now, I love Lisa, I love Heather, I love Whitney, and I trust them moving forward. And if I put that trust in that relationship and look, there's going to be petty conflict.

What about Mary?

Oh? Mary? You know I like Mary and I think Mary likes me.

Hold on, what that's like me saying the fans like me, No, one likes me, likes you no, but like Mary only liked you at the reunion once you gave her.

A compliment and told her to get the lips to go of her teeth. You know, I think Mary realized she had no reason not to like me, and she basically told me the girls did to me what they're doing to you. So I think she saw that she backed off. I didn't get to know Mary, I didn't film with her. I really didn't get to know her very well, and I'm still just barely getting to know her.

And I mean, she's she's nice. I am the closest with Les.

But what do you writ in the future of the show is so now you have Monica. And by the way, while I'm not giving Monica one hundred percent credit for the reddings, but the ratings almost double this season going in next season, are you a little fearful because Monica's not going to be there? However, do you think Monica is not going to be there? Because Andy Colin went on Watch What Happens Live and basically said she's on a break.

Yeah, yeah, he doesn't.

Say that about many people.

He hasn't said that about me.

Yes, yes, yes, yeah, you know. I don't know.

It's the unknown for all of us. We're just going to show up to work next week. We're gonna start filming, and whatever happens happens. As a business owner, I do know when my top stylist moves or leaves, it leaves room for others to become rising stars. Just like when Jen left, others were able to rise to the occasion of.

What's going to happen When you're at an all cast event and Monica walks in with Mary.

I mean, I think we're all going to be unfazed. I've said it, guys, the mask is off, the gig is up. There's nothing she could say that would affect anyone anymore because everything was based on lies.

Do do you think she deserves the second season?

Uh?

As I said earlier, I think that you know, she basically like she blew or wad in one season. She came in hot, she came in with lies. She's lost respect, she's lost trust from viewers, she's lost trust from the fans. There's desperation there when you cast someone who is desperate, okay, and who is openly broke, who is openly you know, having trouble in her marriage, coming after women about their finances,

I can't speak like that or I'm going to get attacked.

But she can come at every single one of us.

Yeah, yeah, listen, No, she said you low brow, and everybody.

Everyone thought I said Brown.

If I bring up the car brown is not even the same. Yeah, It's it's like saying you're not sophisticated. Monica will take any opportunity to turn something into a negative. Oh you mean, women have higher caliber won't come on the show. You think I shouldn't be sitting here. If you are a little more sophisticated, you would have heard

Will come on with that.

To lose, You're the most dangerous kind of And.

Listen, you guys.

I'm self made, I've worked hard, I'm successful in my business, I have a great marriage, i have a beautiful family. I said, I'm gonna come on and be proud of this, and I'm going to showcase all of this. I didn't want to go into lines done where someone that's gonna fucking lie. I will never lie. I will never come onto this show and try and ruin someone's family with lies. And look, that doesn't last. Like there's no sustainability.

Though it's good, And I don't even think that's good TV. Like I'm so sick of people going after your husbands saying they're gay with It's just not cool.

It doesn't go weight. Don't like it.

I think that her low blows and I will tell this to her face. In fact, Oh, my god, I have Monica on the phone right now.

I need you to explain this to me, like with my small brain, because listen, I'm not the smartest tool on the shed, but I need you to explain to me how a trampling with eyes it is a compliment.

Already, Listen, I don't.

Thinking with eyes.

Trampling with eyes wasn't iconic until I said it was a compliment. And then people really got it after Monica spend the entire season talking about our age, our looks, our wrinkles. This is a show about middle aged women. It's not Summer Winterhouse. It's middle aged, successful, bigger as women, right, so you're coming after everyone's looks and wrinkles. It made me really realize, like, well, trampling with eyes is a comment, is a complement.

It's like you come from. But you originally said trampoline with eyes. It was not meant in a complimentary I'm gonna be honest.

Because I said, remind us who you called a tramp Meredith.

Called me a fucking bulldog, so I, oh, I'm sorry. Meredith called me a fucking pit bolt. I said, well, you look like a trampoline.

Come up with that.

Well, listen, I.

Grew up in the hair indistry, all my fun gay friends. I have a lot of one liners, and they're still back there. I mean, next season more will come out, but I will tell you, like, listen, I'd rather be called a trampoline with eyes and said you're fucking wrinkly old, you look your age and listen.

I don't like that. I don't.

Okay, although no one's gonna believe any more rumors, she drops no one's gonna believe any more lies, and all her rebuttals now are like, well, you're ugly, ida d you're wrinkly, you're dumb. I mean, guys, the rebuttals that the reunion was the real Monica. She got a nice to let it in my opinion, like you didn't see all that, but those were her rebuttals, Like.

She would mock us.

If you say, shut up, shut up everything that you say, she'd mock back in a stupid voice and then tell you how ugly you were, and tell you a wrinkle you were, and tell you a bitch, like who how's that going to land?

Well, next season she's played all of her cards.

Well, I feel like she has more cards to play, so I appreciate that.

I'm going to see her on probably as My.

Girls Trip or Traders else and hopefully they will cast me right along with her.

The right questions.

Right now, Monica has reached out to me and she is asked to be on the podcast.

Yes, wow, well good for her.

Yeah, I've had her on before, but now she wants to say what she has to say, But I have she didn't say to the reunion so lately, you know, she had anything that she can do to make things better. You know, I don't know in that moment where she had all of us right there, you know, I read it now her where she went back to her room and cried, didn't see word and kept saying, I'm so embrassed, I'm so embarrassed.

I'm so embarrassed.

Where was that vulnerability at the reunion? Where was the accountability at the reunion? We are all sitting burn Burke was the burn book and guess what, guys, she's on trial for being a bully. The burn Book said horrible things. I saw the photo of me saying horrible things. It's like, this is not like, this is not what you're here for. You're here to redeem yourself not to talk more ship.

I don't think she redeemed herself that she didn't. But let me ask you a question, do you feel if she did redeem herself at the reunion, that you guys would be open to a friendship with her.

It's hard to say, because when you're in the moment, you know the emotions, and if we would have felt that realness, in that vulnerability in person, things could have been different. She had multiple chances to do it, but it's like, how does she do it?

Now?

What?

By text?

I'm hold on, I'm going to.

Read something this just in from her instance story also to say I don't have any of the same things you have, and then to follow that with saying you don't have a marriage.

Neither does Heather, but that track.

That's okay, And then she says also r O P my amazing burn book. I know everyone is saying it was a fail I agree. It was a total failure that you didn't get to see all the wondrous evidence she held, including the proof of someone asking her the RVT page to post thing, Oh was that reality quick page to post things about Jennifer?

But anyway, anyways, what else is going on?

Okay, okay, can I respond to that. I'm not digging on her marriage. I said she was open about her marriage. Every housewife is not.

Yes, she was no, because she said she was divorced, so.

She wasn't said she didn't like the husband straight away from the photos that she found.

On But you guys, look, no one's coming for her marriage. And see that's where she turns things on everyone. She came from mind. So it's like I didn't talk about your marriage. I didn't talk about your business.

I talk about Tamor's marriage all the time.

I mean, hey, can I ask a questions? May I wear the interview hat for one second? Because I'm so curious because you guys have been housewives, you are on a show, and you've been in these situations. Let's talk about like Vicky's cancer scam live right. Vicky had ten years under her belt, yep, and the fans trusted her for ten years. She did not lose the trust of the fans until ten years later. Now Monica lost the trust with the fans and the cast in three months. Good, Okay,

A for three months. Well, I are asking us to be friends with this woman.

I'm asking us to film with her, saving with LVP in the little dog situation.

But LVP quit on her own because she couldn't take that. We busted.

Okay, then let's go back to the vickis Okay, I'm unfortunately for her.

I want to hear this.

Okay, So I knew what that like for me. I have a producer hat. I know what the good of the show is in bringing Vicky back for another season, even though she went after my husband, the cancer scam, all that stuff. I knew that this is going to be good TV. So I was welcome to have her back and I didn't what resolution? Yeah, okay, and then and also like, if you don't have her back, it

You can make fun of it out that's funny.

Don't don't lie about somebody. But she she is funny, she's pretty, she's got, you know, a lot of her.

Natural stuff with the kids. I'm gonna give you a little extra pressure. I'm wondering if you can do each of the woman's voice impressions. So take a sip of shams and let's see. We'll start out with merediths because that's your number one.

You want me to go. Don't with me?

The rumor is the lastiness about her.

Okay, that's done. All right, Now we've got Whitney.

Well, I'm just really excited, like I'm launching my new line, and and like I get my feelings and I'm healings and I'm I'm the real deal.

The dell, the real deal.

Okay, Lisa Barlowe.

I'm gonna die dripping in diamonds and cash.

Okay tagline that actually should be her new Heather receipts.

Faking everything to prove you are a fucking bully and a troll.

I'm Mary Posy, Angie. Don't talk to me like that. I don't like it. Little girl, good old girl, A little

Girl yay here so good