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Legacy Media is almost dead, celebrity endorsements are dead, and race hustlers are dead, because that's really all she had. Trump's race, everybody is racist! I don't think he's the only one who wrote for president. He was celebrated as a great American. By the way, with them everything is projection, but they can't wrap their mind around it because they're racist, and every group should just vote with every group, which is a racist thought.
They're just going to end up doing what the Republicans do to try to get elected, which is going to seem weird. They're going to have to go, we're Republicans who care. Right now, they're nut jobs who care. Adam, welcome back to the show. Thanks for having me back.
It's great to have you, you're one of our favorite guests, we always look you up when we're in LA. And this time, we're catching you as the elections just happened. It's been a pretty seismic event, clean sweep really. What do you make of it all? Well, my thought of it is legacy media is almost dead, celebrating dorsiments are dead, and race hustlers are dead, because that's really all she had. She had the media, she had the race hustlers.
And including Biden and Obama and all the normal, the people you don't even really think of is, you know, you think Al Sharpton is a race hustler, but you don't think Obama is a race hustler, Biden is a race hustler, but they do every bit as much agitation to the races as they possibly can. And then you have legacy media, and really it's funny, they always go, well, they're CNN's over here and then Fox is over here. No, no, it's CNN, it's CBS, it's ABC, it's LA times it's everybody.
And then a couple of couple of people on the on the right, but the race hustlers, Beyonce endorsing you and and and the media are all all by gone era. It's so interesting, isn't it, because at one point, if the media said something like in the UK, if the sun endorsed a political candidate for the election, everybody would be like, oh, this massive tabloid endorse them, that's it. They're going to win.
Now it almost feels like if the media endorses you, you're not going to win, you know what I mean? Yeah, it becomes a thing where it's like if you see way too many commercials for prop whatever, it just means they have billions of dollars and maybe you shouldn't vote yes on that thing because you've seen way too many commercials for it or maybe it's even like a burger franchise like you want to find that sandwich shop that's the whole the wall mom and the pop, not the subway too much.
Too big, you know, to corporate yet to corporate maybe that's maybe that is the error we're living that's really interesting and one of the things I don't know if you fell this way, but you know we watched the election coverage on ABC and actually was very balanced the actual night of the election.
But before the election, the media, I mean, I thought they literally picked up what little they had of their credibility and just throw it straight in the bin because it was like all this stuff about how he wanted to shoot Liz Cheney and all like they went full hoax. Did you know, did you see that?
Yeah, and it sort of mystifies me when people willfully misinterpret actions or words willfully, you know what I mean it's one thing to have a misunderstanding but it's another thing to force a misunderstanding on something that was so clearly not that you know and and for then a news agency to do it is sort of next level.
Because they're here to sort that stuff out allegedly not misinterpret things, you know, when you you take I watched Trump with Sean Hannity in real time doing a little town hall thing where Hannity did this thing where he went now tell everyone you're not going to be a dictator. Trump does have a weird treason. Just say you're not a pedophile. Like if you told him to say you can't tell him to say something he says now.
So of course Hannity's going just tell him you're not going to be a dictator and he's like oh wait a second now and he's got to go into Trump and he goes I am going to be a dick there one day just day one didn't I'm going to drill and I'm going to close the border and then that's it I go back to whatever and and it's clearly a joke.
And the ladies on the view or the New York Times or ABC or whomever who who Tim Walls that come out I just they understand it's on tape you can hear him say he's joking you know what I mean I mean it's it's it's an amount to you going you know to your to your kid yeah little rascal come back here with my hat I'll kill you if I catch up then then so he said he was going to kill his son he said it like
like are you willfully fooling yourself and your audience although you're not fooled people are not going to put up with that for an extended period of time they'll do it for a period of time but every single thing that they leveled is on tape it's easily understood you know the Liz Cheney thing it's it's all there and they knew it and so now they're starting to rail they're starting to drift into liar
at this point and I think people caught on and it's you know what it kind of reminds me of you know you see like footage of monkeys taking part in an experiment and they hit the button and then they get a great and then after five hits of the button they no longer get the
great and they can't understand and they keep it in the button that's a means of mainstream media they had this tactic it worked for a while in no longer works but they keep doing it and you're thinking to yourself do not understand what you're doing all you're doing is destroy your credibility your reputation and you're just accelerating your own demise but they don't seem to care almost which is the interesting part isn't it yeah I feel that way
about calling everyone you disagree with a racist it's like you cannot possibly it can't mit Romney can't be racist you know Trump's racist everybody is racist who would be wearing your president oh really wasn't racist no no no no you celebrate it is cray American business right I've always said there's never been a better to be an actual racist. You just get lumped in with me and Trump and you guys and Dave Rubin and Dennis Brager. You know, you just get lumped in with all these luminaries.
Yeah, and it's so interesting because I was in two minds about this election. I didn't know who was going to win. I kind of be honest here. I kind of, because I'm in such a bubble, I had an inkling that it might be Kamala, and I was saying to Constantin, I think it might be Kamala, maybe we're just in a bubble. And then I saw that tweet of hers where she was calling people fascist, and then I thought, oh, that's a sign of somebody who's losing and knows they're losing.
The moment you start smearing people as fascists, that's the moment you've lost any type of argument or discussion. Well, also what I never really get, and it doesn't seem effective is, if you would like to make a case against somebody, you should do it, but when you paint in these very broad strokes, it kind of lands on deaf ears. And it's a lot of it is sort of a, has a feminine quality to it. And you get into arguments with a woman, she'll go, you're the worst husband ever born.
You're like, you live in 8,000 square feet, I've never put hands on you. I got a crack. I made him into top five, but I can't be the worst ever born. I've been on it, worse my belt, bitch. They do this thing and then it doesn't work. If they would say, if they would go, look, you don't listen a lot of time when I'm talking, you seem not to want to engage or something, they'd have to kind of go, maybe I am kind of guilty of tuning out or something.
They go worse father ever born or worse husband ever born and we're back to it. And that's what they do, which I love as they go, Trump is Hitler and he's old. And then he's gonna die in office and JD Vance is gonna take over and it's gonna be worse. And I'm like, worse than Hitler. So you got Hitler and then Hitler with mad MMA skills. Like, but I'm not listening because you're crazed hyperbole all the time. That's why I'm not listening.
And also when it never happens, they never course correct. They just, whatever, Trump's gonna be in there, there's not gonna be an internment camp, there's no Hitlerian behavior, there's no turning the military on everyone who didn't vote for him. But yet they'll never course correct. They'll just go right back to it.
Yeah, and you just even scratch, not even the surface, but just the light dusting of the layer and you're like, what's up, Trump's Hitler with an orthodox Jewish daughter who converted. And Trump and JD Vance is even worse in Hitler with an Indian wife. Right, right. Oh no, there is, you can't do any of that stuff where you try to kind of reengineer stuff and go, how could I be XY and Z? I'm married to an XY and Z or my children converted to, whatever, none of that works.
I mean, when they, when, when they start digging in and going down a road, that's it. You know, you could be Jewish and they would call you a Nazi. It doesn't, it doesn't really matter once, once they start going down that road. Yeah. Well, you've been watching this whole back and forth in the American politics for a while now. First question, do you think because of the scale of the victory because he won the popular vote, because he won the president, so he won the Senate.
We're recording this at a time when we don't know if he won the House, but it could happen. He could be just absolutely dominant. The media and the Democrats are gonna have to actually look in the mirror. Do you think that's gonna happen? I think a segment and a portion of them will do some self-assessment kind of thing. You know, it's like they just stepped on the scale and it said 350 pounds and a certain amount of them are gonna step off the scale and go, I gotta lose some weight.
But another percentage are gonna say, fuck this scale. Which is how they work. So it's like, oh, the scale is hit, no. Or the scale is hit, no. Yeah. So I just was watching some clips of, you know, MSNBC. You know, they're sort of the extreme left. But a lot of the breakdowns of the autopsy from the left and the autopsy, they go right back to white women. We blame white women for the, they did not vote. They did not support.
So what they do, because they're racist, and by the way, with them, everything is projection. When they're talking about racist, they're talking about themselves. When they're talking about totalitarian, they're talking about everyone's gotta get vaccinated. And law fair, yeah, it's all them. It's all into a mirror. So what they do is they break everyone off into a race, right?
And then they yell at the race that doesn't support the race because in their mind, if you're black, that guy's black, what are you on you? What are you doing? You know what I mean? It's like, well, I don't know. Maybe I don't like his policies, you know? Like Obama, 7.2 or whatever, 7 plus black males out of 10 are gonna vote for Kamala Harris, which is, sounds pretty good if you're Kamala Harris, but it's not good enough for Barack Obama.
He wants to find the 2.8 black men who aren't voting for Kamala Harris and yell at that. And it's like, well, maybe they want a small business and maybe they have different interests or priorities than you, but this whole thing is there's this unqualified, mostly Indian woman over here who you black guys need to vote for because she's gonna do, because she's black or have black or something, that's enough. You know what I mean?
And so what they do is they go, black men, black women came through, they're heroes, black women are great, those are great. They voted 92% for Kamala. Black guys, little disappointing, Mexicans, oh boy, oh boy, they did not, oh no, so what's gotta tell them what's going on, you know what I mean? White men, okay, lost cause, why women, what's going on? You know what I mean?
And it's like, maybe they like the message of this other person more than the message of the person they share a uterus with, but they can't wrap their mind around it because they're racist and every group should just vote with every group, which is a racist thought. Right, you know I always say my actual white privilege is not getting free stuff because I have a rich dad.
My white privilege is looking at six foot two, 50 something year old, heterosexual, Gavin Newsom, white guy and going, I hate that douchebag, I would never vote for him. And no one says to me, well come on, he's white. He's not like that. I don't like his policy, I'll vote for Larry Elder. I get to vote for Larry Elder and not be ostracized from the white community, that's my privilege. Right, yeah. That's a really good point. That's a really good point.
And I guess the second question given the scale of the victory is, are you hopeful that this is going to, the Trump has an opportunity now to really actually deliver on the things that he promised because in the first time, he had to contend with a powerful media machine, he doesn't have that problem nearly as much now. He had to contend with a lot more opposition. Now it's almost like he can do the things that he promised American people. Are you optimistic about that? Here's what I think.
I think the first time Trump came in office, he was naive. And not naive in a way that any of us wouldn't have been. He just sort of walked in and went, I've never done this before. So who should I surround myself with? And then, and he also, I think had the misbelieve that if we really did the right thing, that the New York Times and other outlets and the Manhattan elite would come around to him.
Like once they saw he was a good guy and trying to do what was best, they would warm up to him and move over. They had to battle for Hillary Clinton, but now that the battle was over and they understood he wanted what was best for our country or opportunity zones for black men where he's gonna pardon the niece of Louis Armstrong who's in jail or something like that. He thought they would move over and warm up to him.
He did not understand there was a fought wall that was declared and it was gonna keep getting worse. He also, I don't think understood the circle of people who didn't want him there, who were there. I mean, I've had jobs where I took over for Howard Stern on the West Coast some years ago. I didn't know the general manager and people at the radio station didn't want me there. And it's a weird thing, but it's sort of like your wife poisoning you slowly in your cereal every morning.
You're like, this is these oats taste weird. That's just I like them. And I'm like, God, I feel so sluggish. And so I don't think he knew the game. And he also didn't know they were from within sabotaging him. I don't think he knew the scope and the scale of sort of the swamp and the deep state. And then also he had a second term to think about.
So, you know, when COVID came around, he had to go, I'm not firing Fauci because if I fire Fauci, the country's gonna turn against me, I got a second term to go for. Now he's free of the second term. And I think he gets clearly what they do. And he also understands the New York Times op-ed is never gonna write it. It's a kind or fair or even accurate thing about you ever. So now it's time just to go for broke. And so I'm kind of looking forward to what that looks like.
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You know, it's so interesting how the left in this country have mirrored the left in our country, how they've abandoned ordinary working-class blue collar concerns. They have moved over to progressive policies, progressive ideologies that most people don't care about because it doesn't affect their lives. It's like Bill Clinton said, it's the economy stupid. How could the Democrats have forgotten the words of possibly one of their best ever presidents?
You know, it's called a progressive movement. And if you take progressive and movement, it means it just keeps going. They never pump the brakes. You know, they go, and it's an interesting ruse, I guess I would call it, but it's also, it has an interesting sort of psychodynamic to it. Like, it always starts with something reasonable. You go, why shouldn't a gay couple be allowed to marry so they could have the same rights and privileges, you know, insurance and stuff, you know, whatever?
And then people like us go, yeah. They're okay. That kind of makes sense. And it takes a little while and then they get it. And then our head on it is, well, that's what they want. And they've been agitating a lot. Give it to them. And then we can move forward. And we won't have to argue about this thing. And then they go, well, what's wrong with a little trans story hour, you know? As you go. What is that again?
Well, that's the transvestite reading, hop on pop to six-year-olds at the public library. You go, oh, no, I don't, I don't, oh, you're not down with the movement, are you? And I'm like, no, I'm kind of, I'm four gay rights. I just, well, we're thinking about trans kids, you know, getting healthy breast cut off when they're 13 and taking puberty blockers. And you're like, no, I'm not, and they go, oh, I interesting. I didn't know you're homophobic and bigoted, you know?
And you're like, what is going on? Well, what's going on? Is they keep going? They don't stop. America stops. America goes gay rights, good. Love who you want. Get married. Have the same privileges heterosexual couples have. But then you get Dylan Mulvaney taking pictures in the Oval Office with Biden and America goes, I don't know about that. That's, that's a little too far. And they do it with everything. They do it with immigration. They do, they do it with everything.
You know, it always starts off with something where you go, well, what's wrong? Let's see someone's being politically persecuted in Guatemala, like tortured by the federalis. Shouldn't they be able to come here and seek asylum? And you go, yeah, that sounds reasonable. I'd like to say that's a kind of nation we are. And the next thing you know, it just turns into migrants and illegals living in hotels in New York and being bus stand and everything else. And so they don't stop.
Now what they do do and what come up, we saw Kamala Harris do, is they understand most America is not down with this. So five years ago, there's lots of talk about her defunding ICE and transgender surgeries for prisoners and ending fracking. And now they focus group, they test that stuff and they go, okay, America doesn't like this. So then she goes, okay, I have to pretend like I'm not for that stuff anymore because now I need America's vote. It's also an interesting thing.
All these things, they, they, they, they changed their politics on Biden does it a lot. Kamala Harris was 55 when she said all that shit. You know, she was a young, bright eyed kid, still fresh with idealism right now. She's 55, she had a history, and then she said no more fracking. Do you think you change your opinion on stuff from 55 to 60? Nobody believed him. Nobody believed it.
So it's interesting though, because I find this fascinating because you know, I was in Australia earlier this year and they're not nearly polarized as we are in the UK or as you are in the US here. So I was at a, this meeting where there was people from the left and right. And the first thing that the guy who was hosting it said is, you know, I, I'm a from this party. I don't want the other party to win.
But when they do, and it's going to happen, I want them to be the best possible version of that party for our country. Right. I'm very interested in where the left goes from here. And I see two paths really. They can double down. And in that case, as long as Trump can deliver on the promises that he's made, they're going to be in the wilderness for decades if they double down. Or they're going to have to learn. And that to me is a fascinating thing. Yeah, I, I, and you know, it to be continued.
I mean, I think it would be positive if they learned from this. I mean, the, the, the reality is is, it's sort of like, there's a lot of people that want you to be vegetarian. But America loves rips. And you can do all your impossible burgers and your tofurkey you want. But when it comes time to take a vote and what we're going to eat at this super bowl party ribs, overwhelming majority.
And America as much as they'd like to focus on abortion rights and trans rights and, you know, hit Larry and whatever, America's economy, border, you know, for security, military, we're very ribs and you're meeting potatoes. We are because we're pragmatic at the, at the end of the day. And the other stuff is kind of window dressing, you know, and, you know, we're in California. Gas is 550 a gallon. That affects everybody all the time and hits poor people the hardest, you know.
Abortion, trans, game, whatever, that, that affects some people some of the time. But this is all the people all the time. So the Democrats are going to have to learn that they're going to have to give up the vegan ghost and move more toward the ribs. The problem is, is they're just going to end up doing what the Republicans do to try to get elected, which is going to see weird. It's like Kamala Harris is like, I think we should build some of that border wall.
It's like, okay, like all she was saying to try to win votes is stuff Republicans have to say with like a dusting of human rights stuff over here. So they're in kind of a conundrum, but they, I think they have to move toward ribs with an eye toward having a turkey burger for some of the people at the party, you know, like we are sensitive to some, some of these food allergies or something like that. So it's like, they're going to have to go, we're Republicans who care.
Right now, they're nut jobs who care. And that's why they're going to. And do you see any politicians like that on the American left of the moment at them? Josh Shapiro seemed an interesting one. He was like, you know, Donald Trump needs to stop shit talking American stuff. He struck me as one that was maybe attempting. He's from Pennsylvania, so you can see why he'd be popular there with that kind of attitude. Do you see anyone else?
I mean, Federman, it seems to be drifting towards sanity, you know. He's saying things that you didn't normally hear from a politician from the left. So I think there is a kind of a Federman ask, you know, leaning for some of these people. I mean, it's hard to tell because they're so transactional, you know, like you've got some guy. He's a Democrat and he's talking about fracking. He's from Pennsylvania. And I was like, all right, he just, he's trying to get fired.
I would see, you know, I don't know if he really believes it. I mean, I think part of the problem with the left, too, is you have to be so lockstep with them on everything that there's really, you cannot deviate from the path. And some of their stuff is nutty and hard to go along with if you're sort of rational, insensible, and reasonable. But I think a lot of people on the left had to go with it.
I mean, how many politicians on the left or Democrats knew that January 6th wasn't a resurrection, wasn't a deadly insurrection, wasn't, they had that there's so many of them knew that none of them could say, yeah, it was a bad ride. It was pretty ugly, but not really an insurrect. Did you hear anyone say that? They have to go. They have to go.
Yeah, and it's, it's really interesting because when you talk to, we know a lot of people who are voting Republican and I always try and look at the other side. And I think, you know, they must have some good ideas and some policies. And I remember coming to LA in 2002 and coming back here 22 years later. And the downfall of LA and California in general has been awful to see. And you're going, well, why would anybody vote for you if you just want to make America into a bigger California?
Yeah, I agree. It's like when Gavin Newsom was flirting with running for president or sort of, we could tell what he was thinking about. I said, Gavin Newsom, he's like a guy who runs the world's shittiest taco station. I'm going, I want a franchise. You know, it's your taco. Nobody likes it. I wouldn't get wild worldwide. And it's like, you, you want to franchise this to the rest.
Also, like, I don't think that Gavin Newsom understands that California is used as a sort of joke and a threat to the rest of the country. Like, you want to end up like California? You know what I mean? It's like, it's like if you had a older brother in juvenile hall when you're in high school. So you keep skipping school, son. You're going to end up with Matt. Okay. And, Julie, like that's what California is. We're like this example of, you don't want to end up like, and I don't even know.
To me, that's like the ultimate slap in the face, you know, like we, and not only we wield our self into this, we did, we worked this. We, we manifested this. We made ourselves this. And we're so dumb in California. We just had Prop 35 or 36 or whatever it was, right? So what we do is we go, you know, I want a proposition, you know, four years ago or however many years ago where we're going to make it a misdemeanor to shoplift anything under $850.
And then it's Bedlam and Chaos, you know, I wouldn't mash and grab, you know, everyone's just stealing everything. And we live with that for like four or five years and then we go, I got another idea. Let's have a bill that says, you can't do that anymore. And then we argue about it. And then that bill passes because the first bill was a horrible idea and caused all this.
And we do this all the time or like we fix this problem except for the people that voted on, the people that instituted the first bill never get voted out. That's the kind of weird part. It's still, it's California is like, oh, we hate all the policy but we will never stop voting for the Democrats that are in charge of creating the policy. Why not? Well, I, you know, I think there is a, an allegiance in the Democratic Party that is runs deeper, I think, than the Republicans.
I think, I think by nature, Republicans are a little more pragmatic in the sense that if you, you know, black women vote overwhelmingly for Democrats, they've been doing this for 60 years. They've got nothing. They've got nothing in return. Now, what they get every year is I see you and you're going to have a seat at the table and, you know, I care about everybody and I'm going to, blah, blah, blah, blah. It never happens. They, they had a two term black president. They've had it all.
It never works. It doesn't work in their town. It doesn't, they go, we need a black man, a black fire chief and a black D.A. And that doesn't, it never works. But they do it. Well, I mean, you know, 92% there's something that, that block, you know, now, pragmatic people after about 50 years of nothing. You know what? I'm thinking about a different direction.
Call me crazy, you know, and Democrats, if I, as, I don't even consider myself a conservative, but just as a sort of a pragmatic person, if the guy I voted for started doing a bunch of stuff that didn't work and I didn't agree with, I would vote for somebody else pretty, pretty quickly. They also, once you subscribe to this hit Larry and stuff, well, then you have to vote for that person because in L.A.
We had Gavin Newsom running against Larry Elder. Now, the L.A. Times called Larry Elder the black face of white supremacy. So if you said one guy's a white supremacist or hit Larry in or in the clan, that guy doesn't want to raise the price of a parking ticket by $10. But the other guy who's not in a clan and not Hitler does, I would then, if I believe that, I would go, well, I don't want to raise the price of a parking ticket, but also I don't want to be led by clans.
I will vote for this other guy. So what they do is they go, look, it's a shit show and nothing works and we're broke and homeless and it's a dumpster fire here. But our guy loves people. And the other guy who says he's going to fix all this stuff is a racist. So who would you vote for? I keep thinking, you know, it sounds comedic, but it just is true. Yeah, it's just true. Right.
Right. My mom before before she died said a couple of years ago, she's she she goes the recall or whatever and she just goes, I know who Gavin News, I know Gavin News. I don't know this Larry Elder, like I know how I'm going to vote. I don't want I like, I know there's a homeless encampment on the roof of my house.
But this guy cares. And the other guy could be mean and so I'm voting for the guy who care. You know, the hack definition of insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting different. Right results. Right. I guess my question to you is just is everyone in California mental.
I think there's a fair bit of that because it does attract people who are a little pie in the sky, you know, we take the most mental of all the other neighboring states and invite them here to pursue their dreams that never come true. There's also an interesting phenomenon that I've sort of observed, which is people who were born and raised in Los Angeles and California are nearly as nutty as the ones who come here and do their impersonations of someone who lived in Hollywood or LA.
As an example, I realized that the guys and kind of contemporary guys, you know, Mark Derragos attorney, dear friend lives, born and bred here, well, lock in the on a Pasadena, whatever Dr. Drew, dear friend, born and bred, California, Adam Croll, born and bred here. No tattoos, no earrings, no crazy thoughts, you know, not, you know, not, not ramming Japanese wailer, you know, out on the coast.
I, that, that, Mark and Drew and me are like three of the most, a dare I say normal guys out there. I see the people, I see these guys in Hollywood all the time.
They come here from the sticks that I've worked with people from Brattleboro, Vermont, you know, and wherever deep, deep, and then they come here and they get an earring and a tattoo and they they're doing an impersonation of what they think a Hollywood hipster or a Californian would be and they go much harder in that direction than the people who are from here.
The people, the guys that grew up with blue collar dudes live in the valley, not, not, none of the woke, none of the woke. It's the people who come here and do their impersonation, like how would I act if I, the long didn't California, I know I'd die my hair pink and I get really angry at Trump, you know, and that's, that's who they are. So it's, it's comprised of a bunch of people relocated and are doing their impersonation of someone from California.
You know, I was really an interviewer with John Bon Jovi, he was talking about living in Malibu and he said the reason that he left Malibu was because he felt completely disconnected from reality. And he said, number one, you can't be creative. He went, so there was that change. He goes, but number two, it wasn't good for my kids because they thought this paradise was reality and it's not.
Do you think this is just what happens when life just gets too easy when you wake up every day and it's sunny and it's the perfect breeze and you can go out and everybody's, you know, working in the arts. So by the way, if people are watching listening who haven't been to California, it's like that, like 300 days a year. Well, I moved to Malibu because I wanted to be disconnected from the creative process. You know what's funny?
I, in Malibu, wrote a joke about John Bon Jovi. I, it's just two weeks ago. I literally made up a joke about Bon Jovi from Malibu. So Jovi, Bon Jovi, John Bon Jovi saying that the creative process dies in Malibu. This comedian begs a difference. So I wrote it crazy. Do you guys want to hear this? Sure. It's a, it's, it's a, it's a little rambly. I got to, I have to say, but it's kind of interesting. And I don't know if it'll translate to the UK, but you guys are pretty hip to the references.
I watched that John Bon Jovi doc on Hulu. And he said in the doc, he was getting too old. And he feels like he lost his speedball. Now, the term as you lost your fastball. It's not called a speedball. It's called a fastball and the colloquialism for getting old and not being able to pull it off anymore. So you lost your fastball. And then he's also the king of Jersey. And the other guy is the king of Jersey is Bruce Springsteen.
And Bruce Springsteen has a song called Glory Days, where he sings about a high school guy who could throw a speedball past you. And it's always bothered me because I'm like, Glory to, I'm like, it's not a speedball boss. It's a fast ball. I realize the two kings of Jersey say speedball when they mean fastball. And then I thought, is this a Jersey thing? And then because I'm from LA, and an LA, a speedball is a totally different thing.
That's heroin and cocaine. That is, that's a speedball. A fastball is a baseball term. And so I had this fantasy about being at a party and seeing Bruce Springsteen and saying to him, because I don't know if that's a, they go the other way. And they say, speedball when they mean fastball and fastball when they mean speedball. It could be a two way street for them. And I would go up to Bruce Springsteen and I would say, what killed John Belushi?
And he would go, who's killed by a fastball. It's an esoteric word joke, but you brought up on Jovian, the creative process in Malibu. I mean, it's absolutely fair. I mean, talking just touching on celebrities, the amount of celebrities that came out for Camila, and we talk about celebrities being dead. And we kind of glossed over it. But this is America. This is California. Your celebrities are the royal family.
Bruce Springsteen coming out for Camila. But you all say coming out for Camila. Why is it we've stopped believing in celebrities? I think they used to have an air of mystery and with that came dignity. And so when I was growing up, I mean, not growing up, but an older, a younger version of me thought Robert De Niro must be a genius.
You know, because he never did interviews. He didn't hear anything he had to say. He just had this gift of this ability of acting. And you would go, that guy's a genius. That guy's a genius. He didn't talk. I never heard him give his opinion on anything. I just saw his product. I was like, that guy's a genius. And it was sort of the same with Bruce Springsteen.
I tell him I drove each of you. Very good person. He didn't say much. He just performed and everyone would go, that guy's a genius. That guy's a genius. Well, then these guys started talking. And you and you went, oh, Robert De Niro is a douchebag. Now he destroyed his legacy.
Because he should have never grabbed a microphone and started dropping f-bombs and going on the view. Because then he becomes, he went from Robert De Niro sort of mystery genius to Robert De Niro dumb douchebag. And I think many celebrities did that to themselves. They such a great point at him is such a great point. I think it's one of the reasons Dan's up Washington is so universally respected because he doesn't get involved in this stuff. We still think of him as a genius, right?
Right. Well, we, the guys who, who kind of go, well, first off, many of them sound unhinged and unreasonable. You know what I mean? So when you see the celebs, Mark Ruffalo or those kind of guys get up there and start screaming about him wanting to lock everybody up and, you know, put strict nine and baby formula and fly his Trump plane into another into the Eiffel Tower this time.
You know, like you just go, oh, shut up. You don't know what you're talking. You sound like an idiot now. And the community, the Hollywood community sort of did that to themselves. But there was also a turn in that we used to listen to elites. And now we don't trust elites. That's why everyone is vying to not be elite. You know, I mean, you take Kamala Harris, you know, spent her many formative years in Montreal going to a private, you know, elite private school, right?
And parents both professors at Berkeley, like it doesn't get much more elite than both your parents were professors at Berkeley. What she, she's Jenny from the block group in Oakland worked at McDonald's middle class, right? Well, a lot of talk about middle class McDonald's group in Oakland. And well, it's true that she spent a lot of time in Oakland, but she spent a lot of time in Canada going to like an elite prep school, which you would never know because she'll never say it.
And also the news is never going to say it. Now, you just take something like McDonald's. I worked at McDonald's. I never bragged that I worked at McDonald's for the time I worked at McDonald's till 10 minutes ago because it did not get you any currency. Saying I worked at McDonald's was just saying I'm poor and I'm a student. And my parents were poor and they were stupid too. And so I ended up working behind the grill at McDonald's.
People bragging they worked them out. And she's literally lying to say I work, you used to lie and say you didn't work at McDonald's. You know what I mean? Like if I was at a party when I was 28 trying to pick up a girl and my friend came up and went, you know, you used to work at McDonald's. I go, shut up. You know what you're talking? It's guy's drug.
So this is we don't like elites anymore. Celebrities, the other thing is celebrities don't know what they sound like because they're so high on their own supply. They're in such a bubble that they don't realize that that sounds gross or weird or your insulting have the country or whatever it is. They don't care. Well, right. They're surrounded by people who tell them they're the best and laugh at all this shit jokes and all of that, right?
No, thankfully not. No, yeah, we're getting it. We're working on it. But the other thing is as well is, you know, I think we have seen quite a lot of discrediting things come out of this town. Oh, you know, whether it's me too and Harvey Weinstein, whether it's, you know, the PDD parties, you're kind of looking at it. I go, I'm not sure you're really that elite.
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Yeah, and there's definitely it's not only the Harvey Weinstein situation or the PDD situation just sort of in a bubble, it's being lectured by these people over and over and over again about our morality and how not to over the world. It's being called a misogynist. It's you, it's Hillary Clinton and whatever celebrity calling me a misogynist and then hanging out with Harvey Weinstein at all the big, all the big black tie fundraisers, right?
It's it's it's the it's the hypocrisy of it. It's it's it's it's not just them engaging in the behavior. It's them saying we're immoral. You know, it because that's the way we are as human beings. If you say. I caught this guy and I opened the door and he was in the bedroom and he was having sex with another guy. We'd go like, well, okay.
But if that guy was a priest who preached, you went to hell. If you lay down with a man and you you should lay down with a dog boy. If you walked in a room and saw that guy, you'd have much different opinions, right?
And that's what Hollywood does. They lecture us constantly. You know, they lecture us about global warming and then they fly private everywhere and they have a 400 foot yacht. They're like to hang out with magic Johnson on and then come back and lecture us about plastic straws or whatever they do. The hypocrisy. That's the thing that gets us. That's what makes people angry. Seeing the two guys having sex on your comforter. It's like, I have a dry clean. That's so kind of.
Why seeing the preacher who was who was wagon his finger. Everyone about sexuality and homosexuality. Now you're angry. And that's what it's. It's it's that. And it's also the fact that, well, look, it takes a lot of time, a lot of hard work, a lot of effort to get really good at one thing. And the reality is no one has the time to get good at everything. Like take Robert Downey, Jr. I think one of the greatest actors of his generation, a brilliant actor.
When he talks about his story and addiction and recovery, I'm like, you're a hero. When he talks about politics, I'm like, Robert, you don't know what you're banging on about. And all it makes me work with think when you get together with your avenges is I wish Stan also one. So you know what I mean? Yeah, you have to understand as well in Hollywood and the dynamic of Hollywood, which is most anybody is replaceable in Hollywood.
We don't really need anybody. And you'll hear it all the time when they'll go, you know, the original Indiana Jones was going to be David Hasselhoff. But then he had to fill Knight Rider and then Harrison Ford. If you look like who was going to be the first Superman or who's Indiana Jones? There's all these stories that Tom Selleck was supposed to be fill in the blank, you know, and it happens. So they're interchangeable. They know it. They're vulnerable.
And you don't, you know, there's a handful of people that cannot be replaced. You know, there's a handful of sort of Quentin Tarantino's or maybe like a Seth McFarland or something like that. But everyone else is in the mix. We don't need you. You know what I mean? And like you screw up and you get caught doing something. And you just never work again. That's how it is. Even the width of impropriety or whatever is we've seen with a lot of celebs. You just out.
So they're in a profession where they're vulnerable. You know, when when I was a carpenter, I was a good carpenter and trades guys who are good at what they do. Well, there's carpenter's like, then they never feel vulnerable. There's always work. If you're a good carpenter, you just work. You just say whatever you want. You do what you want. Like like really, you just come to work the next day. And you have a skill and they need you and you're aware of it too.
I was very replaceable. And so it can come down to fractions and tents, you know what I mean? And all it would take is you being on the wrong side of one issue. Like COVID. And so COVID came around every single person in Hollywood was on exactly the same page with COVID. They all knew Ivermectin didn't work, even though they'd never heard the name Ivermectin.
And they knew hydroxychloroquine didn't work, even though they'd never heard of hydroxychloroquine. And they all knew it came from a wet market and not from the left. How did you get them all on the exact same page? If you were looking at it logically, you'd go, well, certainly a percentage of them would go, well, I don't think it came from a wet market.
Probably came from the lab that was studying these kind of viruses down the street. And I don't know about Ivermectin to ask your doctor. That's up to you. That's not a myfus. And that you would have rational, normal, you would have when the Super Bowl comes around half the people in Hollywood think it's saying I was rooting for San Francisco and the other half is rooting for the Kansas City Chiefs. Why they don't there's nothing around that one.
They're not going to be thrown out for picking the chiefs so they just split. They split on everything and then something they can get thrown out comes around like COVID or an election and they all get the exact same page. Right. I know the social actually have friends in Hollywood who didn't agree with the COVID stuff and they kept very, very quiet about it because they have to.
They become maranas, which are, I don't know, Jews in Spain at a certain time that just couldn't come out as Jews. I mean, I would, I would be on sets and have guys like, you know, literally. I like what you're saying, I keep saying what you're saying, but don't tell anyone I said.
Oh, yeah. Oh, it's, it's very real threat and everyone with the loss of livelihood. No, they'll get in line. Especially when it's that far to fall. Right. When you're poor, you lose your job. You're going to find another shitty job. You're going to be just as poor. Right. But when you've got millions to lose. That's when it really feels especially if you feel like this is the only place that you can work.
Yeah, it's millions to lose and and it's pretty arbitrary. You just get caught on a hot mic dropping an N bomb. And we'll never hear from you. It's that fast. Now if you're a welder, don't drop in bombs. You're out. But you know, it's so interesting because the more that they've gone down this path, the more politicized they've become, the more progressive they're talking points have been.
And the more vocal progressive their movies are, the more and more people just think, I don't care. I'm not going to watch it. I'm not going to consume the content. And the more you just see it, just spiral downwards. Yeah, well, what they did is they, they damaged their own franchise by the wokeness thing, which they can't stop doing. But for instance, the biggest event we have in this country is really the Super Bowl every year.
And everyone gathers and stops what they're doing to watch the Super Bowl. And the reason they do that is it's a pure meritocracy. There may be two black quarterbacks starting in the Super Bowl. They could have two black coaches. The defense on the Ravens could be 11 black guys. That's the mountain number we have an American football. It is all I know and ever questions any of it is pure meritocracy. And we love it. The Oscars used to be the Super Bowl. But we stopped caring.
And the reason we stopped caring is because they started mandating that at least, you know, X amount of minority and disability films being nominated. And then we started seeing. And what would happen is you'd go what film one best film this year moonlight. Oh, what was that about black guy was gay. And then you know, I get it. I get it.
It doesn't mean it wasn't the best film. It really what they did to themselves is when they started doing this DEI shit and this all this other stuff. It became like you'd see like a young black man walking through the quad at Harvard. And people go like, is he really here because he's that smart or that they just pull him in here because they needed. He may belong and he may have had the highest SAT scores in the land.
He might have been Tomasola Larry. Thomas or the new black face of white. Larry, he may be. But you brought questions. You brought you made us question this thing. And when you make us question, we lose interest fast. And they took their franchises and they they grafted all this stuff onto it. And now literally I was with my son who at the time was probably 15 or 16 and he loves films. He loves films. And we were sitting around one night in our home theater middle class.
And we're sitting there home theater and we're sustaining through movies to see new movies, we've done her. We come across this one was like a thriller horror movie. And it's literally like 97% on rotten tomatoes. And I said, good, never heard of this film. And we both look at each other 97%. That's pretty damn good for a thriller. And we watch.
And it wasn't good. It was okay. You know, should have been 61% on right. We're like, what's it? Well, it started a black woman who was the hero who fought the thing and did the thing. And at the end, we're like, oh, we got burned because that's how we doing. But it also made this 15 year old boy think, oh, they've rigged the system now. And now I have to check.
You know, because the critics are all progressive and they root for this and voters with the Oscar, the Golden Globes. And then it's all become this big D.E. I fast. And it's ruined the franchise just as it would with the Super Bowl. If the quarterback was starting was white. And we knew there's a much better black player at quarterback just standing on the sideline.
It would hurt. It would hurt it. And we would lose interest in it eventually. You know, oh, who's starting at cornerback? Well, the guy who owns the team put his 41-year-old son out there. I'm not watching this. You know, I mean, it would ruin it. Yeah, it's so good. And then when you think about to take the example of Denzel Washington, you go, you remember when a Denzel film came out. I remember when inside
man came out into the cinemas, me and my mates were so excited that the new Denzel movie was coming out. It was going to be a high-smoothie even better. And I saw that there was a young black British actor called Chewerto Ejio for. It was a magnificent actor, by the way. I've seen him on theater. I've seen him in films. I got really excited. I was like, oh, who's this new guy? I don't feel that way anymore. And that's sad. That's genuinely sad.
Because we now question everything and we don't believe anything. So when people come through who have got this luminescent talent, we don't give them the props that we should do. A great. We're back to the black kid at Harvard. Could be a genius, but we've decided he's only there because of the color of his skin. And that's sad.
Yeah, what they've done is they've diluted the currency. Yes, they the coin was supposed to be pure gold and now it's 50% crap. Yeah, and now we don't trust the coin anymore or maybe chocolate. And American chocolate. I listen, I'm not defending it. But we invented the peanut butter cup. So that's my drop guard. Adam, it's been. It's always awesome talking to you man. We really appreciate your time. Thank you so much for coming on the show.
I'm going to ask you some of our supporters questions in a second, but we do as you know, we always wrap up by asking what's the one thing we're not talking about that we should be before Adam answers a final question at the end of the interview. Make sure to head over to our sub stack. The link is in the description where you'll be able to see this. What will be the new type of podcast? What could aspiring podcasters do to enter the market?
What does it feel to change history? Seeing as you started the longer form podcast from a spare room form out of new media, which is now going to lead the media. My question for Adam is about Jimmy Kimmel. He used to be a funny and insightful comedian and I thought a champion for free speech, but he has turned into a partisan hack of the left. My question is simple. What the heck happened with Jimmy?
I think we're not talking about mental health in a way that we should be talking about it. We're talking about feeling threatened and safe spaces and that kind of stuff. We're not talking about mental health that comes from exertion and physical movement and tasks being performed. We have a lot of like I'm very go wash your own car. It's Sunday, the sunshine and you got another and then you'll have someone go, no, call the guys to come with a bring a van.
And I'm like, I'm not saying wash your own car because you can't afford to pay the guy in the detail van. I'm saying do it. Do it for you. Go build a tree house with your son and daughter. No, have the guys do that. You know, I have a lot for me. I make plenty of money. So when I announce I'm going to go down and wash the car, there'll always be some woman going, what are you doing? You make a thousand dollars an hour.
A grub hub, bringing food to the home. You know what I mean? Like people go it's still much faster. It's easier. What do you want to do? Waste all your time. You know, going to the market. It's like these mundane tasks that are for fathers and grandfathers and grandparents and moms and dads perform kept them safe.
You know, not I had a merchant ice bag, a big bag, I bring all my books. I go through the show. I sell the merch, right? The thing blew out the zipper broke on the thing blew out whatever. It's this big thing. Now I was like, you got to throw away the merch bag. I said, I'm not throwing it away. I'm fixed the merch bag. Go get a new one. Go to Amazon. Throw this in what the heap. You know what I mean?
It's not going to decompose for 7,000 years. Throw this in the garbage. I said, no, I was a carpenter. I went, got my tools out. I got some stuff. And we'll get into the details. I fixed it. And then I went out the next weekend with the merch bag and it felt good. Like I felt like a I didn't spend 110 bucks on a new merch bag. B I didn't put it in a landfill and see.
I feel a sense of accomplishment from this very simple task. We're pulling people away from this world. We're telling kids, you know, get off the roof, get down here. Don't the don't wrestle. Don't scrap. You know, don't. Everyone's on their screen. And then we're going, you need medication because you got to deal with this thing you have that you got because you're not out hiking and engaging and building a fort and rolling around in the dirt.
We got to get people back to those tasks and the technology is pulling them away every day. It's going, you don't have to do the stuff you had to do. You know, grub hub and Uber and use your phone and you got Apple pay and everything else. We need to get back to what I would just call diet and exercise like a basic not olympic diet and exercise, but you'll lose weight. It's not about losing weight. It's about the discipline of diet and exercise, which you don't get with the shot or the pill.
You have to earn your sanity. You can't just take a pill and expect to be saying you got to go out and break a sweat. Come back, feel satisfied. Make your kid breakfast. Well, then let the school do it. No, no, no, you do it. You do it for your kid, for you, for the engagement. We're not talking about engagement. We're not talking about simple tasks. We're not talking about washing your own car.
You have to, sorry, go ahead. And I said, and also as well, the satisfaction that comes from within when you do a good job, like you cook a nice meal and everyone's like, you know what, that was a great meal. Right. And that feels good. You cook in tonight, man. We're going to get someone else to do it, man. We made too much money. You have to earn your sanity. That is such a great point, Adam.
I never said that before, but I would like to put it on a bumper. So that's a lie. And it's absolutely true. We really appreciate you, Adam. You're one of the OGs of this whole format. It's really such a pleasure having you on the show every time. By the way, you're about to interview us for your show. We don't know when this will go out. So if you, if it's already out, go and make sure to check out our interview with Adam.
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