In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss commercial real estate and the future of offices. They debate whether commercial real estate offers an opportunity for contrarian investors. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommendation to bu...
May 27, 2023•48 min•Season 3Ep. 18
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss takeaways and lessons from the Berkshire Hathaway Annual Meeting 2023. Phil kicks off the episode with a personal recap of his trip to Omaha. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommendation to b...
May 14, 2023•53 min•Season 3Ep. 17
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss the small-cap opportunity following a period of underperformance of small-cap versus large-cap stocks. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommendation to buy or sell any particular security. Sec...
May 01, 2023•58 min•Season 3Ep. 16
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss the research paper, "Overconfidence, Under-Reaction, and Warren Buffett's Investments", by John S. Hughes, Jing Liu, and Mingshan Zhang. The paper is available at https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1635061 Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of...
Apr 15, 2023•54 min•Season 3Ep. 15
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss the turmoil in the global banking system, delving into causes, remedies, and opportunities for intelligent investors. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommendation to buy or sell any particula...
Mar 25, 2023•1 hr 23 min•Season 3Ep. 14
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss the end of TINA ("there is no alternative" to equities) and how investors should think about protecting and growing wealth in a treacherous environment. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommen...
Mar 12, 2023•53 min•Season 3Ep. 13
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss artificial intelligence, its capabilities and shortcomings, related trends, and implications for investors. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommendation to buy or sell any particular security...
Feb 26, 2023•48 min•Season 3Ep. 12
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss the Bed Bath & Beyond saga and draw analogies to past case studies, including DryShips and Hertz. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommendation to buy or sell any particular security. Secu...
Feb 19, 2023•52 min•Season 3Ep. 11
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss long-term investment opportunities among fast-growing but money-losing companies whose stock prices have declined precipitously over the past year. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommendatio...
Jan 29, 2023•59 min•Season 3Ep. 10
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss the private equity asset class and the dangerous game of "volatility laundering", a concept popularized by Cliff Asness. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommendation to buy or sell any partic...
Jan 15, 2023•49 min•Ep. 9
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss some of the "highlights" of 2022, why it was a year to remember, and why it may have been a turning point for investors. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommendation to buy or sell any partic...
Dec 18, 2022•55 min•Season 3Ep. 8
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss a type of situation often encountered by investors -- when you like a company's business model and prospects but do not agree with management's strategy or capital allocation policies. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as in...
Dec 04, 2022•48 min•Season 3Ep. 7
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss the FTX debacle and the factors that made such an epic disaster not only possible but perhaps likely. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommendation to buy or sell any particular security. Secu...
Nov 20, 2022•52 min•Season 3Ep. 6
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss the Tom Russo-championed concept of "the capacity to suffer", how to apply it in practice, and to what extent it can be used to think about the recent woes at Meta Platforms. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment a...
Nov 06, 2022•41 min•Season 3Ep. 5
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss David Einhorn's recent comments on value investing, which are available at https://youtu.be/ERa_d7PpbYU?t=31 Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommendation to buy or sell any particular securit...
Oct 22, 2022•47 min•Season 3Ep. 4
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss Warren Buffett's famous 1977 essay, "How Inflation Swindles the Equity Investor". The co-hosts examine equity investing in the context of an inflationary environment. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or...
Oct 09, 2022•55 min•Season 3Ep. 3
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss the challenges some companies have experienced managing their inventory levels in light of COVID-related demand swings. In particular, the hosts reflect on a Wall Street Journal article about Scotts Miracle-Gro (NYSE: SMG). They also touch on the challenges faced by Peloton (Nasdaq: PTON). Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expre...
Sep 24, 2022•47 min•Season 3Ep. 2
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss the cyclicality of Malthusianism, and related investment implications. "Malthusianism is the idea that population growth is potentially exponential while the growth of the food supply or other resources is linear, which eventually reduces living standards to the point of triggering a population die off." (source: Wikipedia) Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The vi...
Sep 11, 2022•37 min•Season 3Ep. 1
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss the futility of recession forecasting as a way of informing investment and portfolio management decisions. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommendation to buy or sell any particular security....
Jul 10, 2022•46 min•Season 2Ep. 40
In this special episode we are joined by Vitaliy Katsenelon, CIO of Denver-based value investing firm IMA and author of Soul In the Game . In this wide-ranging conversation we discuss what inspired Vitaliy to write the book, the Stoic "operating system for life," painful experiences in investing, and how to think and debate like a scientist. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are t...
Jul 03, 2022•1 hr 2 min•Season 2Ep. 39
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss (1) how the likelihood of financial distress has evolved since the financial crisis of 2008, and (2) the mental exhaustion and fatigue many investors feel as a result of the experience of the past few years. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content sh...
Jun 18, 2022•47 min•Season 2Ep. 38
In this special episode, Mike "@nongaap" Puangmalai, Resident Artist at WCM Investment Management, joins Phil and Elliot to share the origin story behind his insights into corporate governance, which led to the "Dark Arts" series and an investment process built around analyzing corporate governance. Mike shares some of the secrets he learned from rigorous proxy analysis, his thoughts on the maturation cycle of recently public companies, and the one most valuable trick investors can deploy today ...
Jun 11, 2022•1 hr 19 min•Season 2Ep. 37
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss the "man overboard moment" Michael Mauboussin wrote about in a 2015 white paper entitled, "Managing the Man Overboard Moment." We also talk about the concept of "sector rotation." Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investm...
Jun 05, 2022•44 min•Season 2Ep. 36
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss post-COVID growth curves of fast-growing businesses. For background, see the Q1 letter of RGA Investment Advisors at https://www.rgaia.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Q122-Investment-Commentary-.pdf Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be co...
May 22, 2022•47 min•Season 2Ep. 35
In this special episode, co-host Phil Ordway speaks with Mary Childs, author of The Bond King: How One Man Made a Market, Built an Empire, and Lost It All . About the Guest: Mary Childs is a co-host of NPR's Planet Money podcast. Before joining the team in 2019, she was a senior reporter at Barron's magazine, where she covered the alternatives industry, the bond market and capitalism. Before that, she worked at the Financial Times and Bloomberg News. She's written about the pioneering of new ass...
May 17, 2022•42 min•Season 2Ep. 34
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss impressions and takeaways from the Q&A session with Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger at the Berkshire Hathaway Annual Meeting 2022. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommendation to buy or...
May 08, 2022•47 min•Season 2Ep. 33
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss timely issues in corporate governance, including the pending sale of Twitter to Elon Musk and proposals at the Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommendation ...
May 01, 2022•54 min•Season 2Ep. 32
In this special episode, Mario Cibelli, Jason Moser, Mike Puangmalai, and Elliot Turner discuss PayPal's next chapter. Learn why the share price decline alters the trajectory of the company and is an opportunity to own growth cheaply. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommen...
Apr 27, 2022•1 hr 11 min•Season 2Ep. 31
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss pricing versus valuation, especially in the context of "transition" companies, such as Netflix. We also talk about the implications of so-called safe equities trading at high multiples. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as i...
Apr 24, 2022•51 min•Season 2Ep. 30
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss the energy sector as a source of opportunities and challenges for intelligent investing. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommendation to buy or sell any particular security. Security specific...
Apr 10, 2022•45 min•Season 2Ep. 29
