In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss intelligent investing in housing and homebuilders. We focus on the sector dynamics, without giving specific investment recommendations. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommendation to buy or ...
Apr 03, 2022•47 min•Season 2Ep. 28
In this special episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic speak with Max Frumes, co-author of The Caesars Palace Coup: How a Billionaire Brawl Over the Famous Casino Exposed the Power and Greed of Wall Street . About the Guest: Max Frumes leads a news team at Fitch Solutions covering corporate debt and restructuring. He previously was the founding editor of a leading publication covering corporate bankruptcy, and before that reported for S&P’s Leveraged Commentary &am...
Mar 27, 2022•50 min•Season 2Ep. 27
In this special episode, TWIII co-host Phil Ordway welcomes Roger Lowenstein, author of the newly published book, Ways and Means: Lincoln and His Cabinet and the Financing of the Civil War . About the Guest: Roger Lowenstein reported for The Wall Street Journal for more than a decade. His work has appeared in The Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg, The New York Times, the Washington Post, Fortune, Atlantic, the New York Review of Books, and other publications. His books include the NYT bestsellers B...
Mar 20, 2022•40 min•Season 2Ep. 26
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) times when markets trade on headlines rather than value; and (ii) "safe" assets amidst all the chaos in the world. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommendation to buy or sell any particul...
Mar 06, 2022•54 min•Season 2Ep. 25
In this special episode, Mario Cibelli joins us to talk about the "rapidly forming new reality for public small/mid growth companies," the steps companies can take to adapt to this new normal, and how portfolio managers should think about diversification and turnover. About the Guest: Mario D. Cibelli is the General Partner of Marathon Partners L.P., an Investment Partnership focused on less efficient areas of the marketplace. The partnership follows sectors such as spin-offs, orphan IPOs, rever...
Feb 27, 2022•1 hr 1 min•Season 2Ep. 24
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) executive compensation, and why the details should matter to long-term investors; and (ii) Covid winners and losers: were the winners really the losers, and vice versa? Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment adv...
Feb 20, 2022•1 hr 1 min•Season 2Ep. 23
In this special episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway and John Mihaljevic speak with Adam J. Schwartz, Chief Investment Officer of Black Bear Value Partners, about the challenge and opportunity of designing an investment business that is most congruent with the manager's investment philosophy. About the Guest: Adam J. Schwartz manages Black Bear Value Partners. He has nearly two decades of buy-side investment experience in a variety of themes including equities, structured products, corporate credit and...
Feb 13, 2022•57 min•Season 2Ep. 22
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) "overstaying one's welcome" as an investor, or how to think about selling vs. holding; and (ii) reading for purpose and the importance of journalism. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recomme...
Feb 06, 2022•58 min•Season 2Ep. 21
In this special episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway and Elliot Turner speak with award-winning investing columnist Spencer Jakab about his new book, The Revolution That Wasn't: GameStop, Reddit, and the Fleecing of Small Investors . About the Book: The Revolution That Wasn’t is the riveting story of how the meme stock squeeze unfolded, and of the real architects (and winners) of the GameStop rally. Drawing on his years as a stock analyst at a major bank, Jakab exposes technological and financial innov...
Jan 30, 2022•40 min•Season 2Ep. 20
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) the inflation debate, and whether the word "transitory" still has relevance; and (ii) investing in unprofitable companies. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommendation to buy or sell any ...
Jan 23, 2022•55 min•Season 2Ep. 19
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) investing and life lessons learned from the late Lou Simpson; and (ii) Buffett's quote, “Charlie (Munger) and I would much rather earn a lumpy 15 percent over time than a smooth 12 percent.” Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be const...
Jan 16, 2022•48 min•Season 2Ep. 18
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) the historically high disparity between large-cap vs. small-/mid-cap valuation; and (ii) Peter Bernstein on survival and the avoidance of disaster, as well as managing through bubbles. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed a...
Jan 09, 2022•43 min•Season 2Ep. 17
Saurabh Madaan, Managing Member of Manveen Asset Management, and Michael Mauboussin, Head of Consilient Research at Counterpoint Global, Morgan Stanley Investment Management, joined members for a fireside chat at Latticework on December 15, 2021. Saurabh and Michael explored the topic, “Expectations Investing as Applied to Growth Businesses”. Michael is co-author with Al Rappaport of the revised and updated edition of Expectations Investing: Reading Stock Prices for Better Returns . The primary ...
Jan 04, 2022•1 hr 6 min•Season 2Ep. 16
Elliot Turner, Managing Partner and Chief Investment Officer of RGA Investment Advisors, and Nick Devlin, Chief Executive Officer of Naked Wines (UK: WINE), joined members for a fireside chat at Latticework on December 16, 2021. Elliot and Nick discussed the evolution and business model of Naked Wines and explored the topic, “Driving Customer Value via Scale Economies Shared”. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or ...
Jan 04, 2022•1 hr 8 min•Season 2Ep. 15
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) superforecasting and the Good Judgment Open; and (ii) the biggest lessons of the year 2021. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommendation to buy or sell any particular security. Security s...
Dec 19, 2021•54 min•Season 2Ep. 14
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) the new edition of Michael Mauboussin's book, Expectations Investing; and (ii) the "right" amount of lying -- prompted by Rohit Krishnan's essay, "How Much Should You Lie?" Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment...
Dec 12, 2021•56 min•Season 2Ep. 13
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) the future of brands, and how to think about brand value; and (ii) leadership change at Twitter, with Parag Agrawal becoming CEO. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommendation to buy or se...
Dec 05, 2021•1 hr 1 min•Season 2Ep. 12
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) the challenges of forecasting, faced by businesses and investors alike; and (ii) thoughts on Zillow's retreat from ibuying. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommendation to buy or sell any...
Nov 21, 2021•55 min•Season 2Ep. 11
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) the pending breakup of GE and whether it signifies the "end of conglomerates"; and (ii) the "Kasparov Principle" as applied to investing. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed as investment advice or as a recommendation to b...
Nov 14, 2021•53 min•Season 2Ep. 10
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) game theory in consolidating industries, and how it fits into investment strategy; and (ii) companies with an internal investment function, and whether more companies should pursue it. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions expressed by hosts or guests are their own. Neither this show, nor any of its content should be construed a...
Nov 07, 2021•53 min•Season 2Ep. 9
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) using macro data in the investment process -- specifically, the one source of macro data Phil uses regularly; and (ii) an area ripe for interesting investment ideas: companies whose product or service is important to the customer but represents a small portion of the customer's total cost. Enjoy the conversation! The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. The views, information, or opinions e...
Oct 31, 2021•45 min•Season 2Ep. 36
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) positioning for longevity in the investment world; and (ii) whether we are near the end of the decades-long bull market in bonds. Enjoy the conversation! About the Co-Hosts: Elliot Turner is a co-founder and Managing Partner, CIO at RGA Investment Advisors, LLC. RGA Investment Advisors runs a long-term, low turnover, growth at a reasonable price investment strategy seeking out global opportunities. Elliot focus...
Oct 24, 2021•56 min•Season 2Ep. 7
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) an interview with Sir David Spiegelhalter on risk and the use (and misuse) of statistics, published in the Financial Times on April 16, 2021; and (ii) a table from Morgan Stanley, showing that more than 90% of stocks have declined more than 10% from their YTD highs (>30% for Nasdaq and Russell 2000 stocks) even as the market indices remain only a few percentage points off their highs. Enjoy the conversation!...
Oct 16, 2021•51 min•Season 2Ep. 6
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) duration, terminal value, and the "fear of mission out"; and (ii) investing articles and texts that belong in every investor's "re-read" folder. Enjoy the conversation! About the Co-Hosts: Elliot Turner is a co-founder and Managing Partner, CIO at RGA Investment Advisors, LLC. RGA Investment Advisors runs a long-term, low turnover, growth at a reasonable price investment strategy seeking out global opportunitie...
Oct 10, 2021•51 min•Season 2Ep. 5
In this special episode, co-host Phil Ordway speaks with William Green about the book, "Richer, Wiser, Happier: How the World's Greatest Investors Win in Markets and Life". Enjoy the conversation! About the Participants: Philip Ordway is Managing Principal and Portfolio Manager of Anabatic Fund, L.P. Previously, Philip was a partner at Chicago Fundamental Investment Partners (CFIP). At CFIP, which he joined in 2007, Philip was responsible for investments across the capital structure in various i...
Oct 02, 2021•1 hr 3 min•Season 2Ep. 4
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) confidence vs. overconfidence; and (ii) idea generation, or how to get to "no" quickly in the investment process. Enjoy the conversation! About the Co-Hosts: Elliot Turner is a co-founder and Managing Partner, CIO at RGA Investment Advisors, LLC. RGA Investment Advisors runs a long-term, low turnover, growth at a reasonable price investment strategy seeking out global opportunities. Elliot focuses on discoverin...
Sep 27, 2021•1 hr 2 min•Season 2Ep. 3
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) the prevalence of labor shortages in the US and their potential investment implications; and (ii) the tendency of investors to miss the "big ideas" due to a focus on financial valuation rather than qualitative insight. Enjoy the conversation! About the Co-Hosts: Elliot Turner is a co-founder and Managing Partner, CIO at RGA Investment Advisors, LLC. RGA Investment Advisors runs a long-term, low turnover, growth...
Sep 18, 2021•56 min•Season 2Ep. 2
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) why all news seems to be good news in securities markets, and whether market cycles have actually been dampened or truncated or if that is an exaggeration; and (ii) the distinction between sound underwriting and position management, as illustrated by Elliot's example of Kambi Group. Enjoy the conversation! About the Co-Hosts: Elliot Turner is a co-founder and Managing Partner, CIO at RGA Investment Advisors, LL...
Sep 12, 2021•57 min•Season 2Ep. 1
In this episode, co-hosts Phil Ordway, Elliot Turner, and John Mihaljevic wrap up Season One of This Week in Intelligent Investing. They highlight some of their favorite episodes and provide a glimpse of what's to come in Season Two. The podcast takes a summer break through Labor Day. Enjoy the conversation! About the Co-Hosts: Elliot Turner is a co-founder and Managing Partner, CIO at RGA Investment Advisors, LLC. RGA Investment Advisors runs a long-term, low turnover, growth at a reasonable pr...
Jul 18, 2021•33 min•Season 1Ep. 51
In this episode, co-hosts Elliot Turner, Phil Ordway, and John Mihaljevic discuss (i) scarcity vs. abundance, and curation as the next big unlock; and (ii) "Firestone's Law of Forecasting" and the importance of avoiding zeros. Enjoy the conversation! About the Co-Hosts: Elliot Turner is a co-founder and Managing Partner, CIO at RGA Investment Advisors, LLC. RGA Investment Advisors runs a long-term, low turnover, growth at a reasonable price investment strategy seeking out global opportunities. E...
Jul 03, 2021•1 hr 5 min•Season 1Ep. 50
