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Think, Pair, Swear

Justin Orscheln and Ronnie Lathropwww.buzzsprout.com

Think, Pair, Swear, a podcast exploring the strange, sometimes ridiculous, sometimes dead on portrayals of the field of education in popular culture. Hosted by Justin Orscheln, former elementary Music teacher turned assistant-principal and Ronnie Lathrop, retired high school English teacher.

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Episodes

Flash Gordon!

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Justin gets summer schooled on camp, feathered hair and gay bears with wings. There’s also Ronnie’s sexual awakening, the power of football, Ming’s cultural appropriation, Topol, fart clouds, hot hail, Karoline Leavitt, cotton candy butthole portals, how the movie predicted 2025, Timothy Dalton’s S&M 1923, gayer Skeletor, leaving Footloose, Aura’s sexual appetite, MAGA brainwashing, Annie Lenox, naked men with wings, tree fisting, quicksand, America...

Jul 14, 20251 hr 39 minSeason 2Ep. 37

Steel Magnolias

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Justin gets summer schooled as Julia Roberts dies and we all punch Ouiser. How’d Justin get through gay boyhood without seeing this one, you may ask? We find out with the help of giant hair, Dylan McDermott’s ass, guns in hallway drawers, “Hello, Dove Beauty,” a Jesus Princess, exploding balloons, “Drink your juice, Shelby,” Verpford Trudeau, armadillo ass, football ass, how to tell if a man is homosexual, Southern accents, terrifying Easter Bunnies, a ...

Jun 30, 20251 hr 30 minSeason 2Ep. 36

All About Eve

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Justin gets summer schooled this week on divas, the queer-coded sissy, and sapphic power dynamics. There’s also Jafar, fleshlights clued to stumps, a sea of red flags, Phoebe’s suicide, personal assistants, phallic celery, a broken bottle of absinthe, lesbians with moving vans, Drunk Justin, the single white female, RIP vaccines and poppers, pretending to be passed out, All About Me, several very dry martinis, the War of 1812 vs 9/11, agents of chaos, o...

Jun 16, 20251 hr 28 minSeason 2Ep. 35

Muriel's Wedding

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Justin gets summer schooled this week on the perils of life for the small town gay, found families and some symbolism for the AIDS crisis of the 90s via the life of Muriel Heslop. There’s also party with laundry room make-shift urinals, whipped icing, several bad Australian accents, ugly dresses, no exploding birds, being screwed into paralysis, reluctantly sad masturbation, politicians with loser families, flirting with a doppelganger, hearing sex thro...

Jun 02, 20251 hr 39 minSeason 2Ep. 34

Extra Credit: Listener Thoughts & Graduation Songs!

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Extra Credit: Bad Graduation Songs edition. There’s some listener mail that involves a potential murder, a student attack, an angel teacher, and a media recommendation for student teachers. Justin and Ronnie each bring a song featured at many a high school graduation and tries to sway the other that it’s indeed an awful graduation song. Their high school graduations are also discussed. Then the subject of Summer Schooled coming Monday, June 2nd is annou...

May 19, 20251 hr 3 minSeason 2Ep. 33

The Breakfast Club

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Bad principals. Bad students. The bad concept of Saturday detentions, this one had it all. Besides Bender catching a glob of his own spit, we were subjected to an ugly duckling divisive makeover, a girl making out with the man who sexually and physically assaulted her, magical weed that admin can’t smell, obvious locker were said weed was kept, a library will a lot of unusable space, olive loaf, pissed off librarians on Monday morning, a wise custodian,...

May 12, 20251 hr 45 minSeason 2Ep. 32

Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy's Revenge

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! The nightmare here isn’t just Freddy Krueger and it’s not just a coach into S&M. Going to high school in Springwood isn’t wise but neither is offroading through Joshua Tree National Park, Jared Fogel, A Chorus Line, racist cereal, fungal growth, science teachers with snakes, twerk cleaning, exploding parakeets, wood burning stoves in California basements, several small town gay bars, DaRude’s “Sandstorm,” a dick dad, full mouths, chest bursters, the...

May 05, 20251 hr 35 minSeason 2Ep. 31

Eighth Grade

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! The middle school thematic unit ends with more adolescent awkwardness. What happens when a girl with no friends thinks she’s a YouTube influencer? Besides many bad choices, there’s Gucci, sex education, mean girls, Ronnie making everything about himself, an invitation to throw axes in the Crossroads, shirtless dads talking to kids, amateur go-go dancing, nudes, active shooter training, getting caught staring at an ass on the way to Composition, food cou...

Apr 28, 20251 hr 40 minSeason 2Ep. 30

Pen15 (Season 1 Ep. 1 and Season Pt. 1 Ep. 6)

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Ever want to go back and revisit your middle school years but as your adult self? Yeah, the hosts don’t either. Along the way they encounter carpooling, that one annoying teacher who wants to be best friends with students, the meaning of U Gis, dial-up modems that make Ronnie horny, the erotic novella Sleepwalker by Adam Donovan now on sale via Amazon download, librarian Christmas presents, Ace Ventura, “Goody Two Shoes” by Adam Ant, uncut penis, gel pe...

Apr 21, 20251 hr 33 minSeason 2Ep. 29

Didi

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! The middle school thematic unit kicks off with this story of a kid navigating social media in 2006 during the summer before high school starts. What were the top social media used in 2006? They get into multilingual households, sibling drama, AOL Instant Messenger, a gay mom with cancer, Joan Chen, skateboarding in the 1970s, mother-in-laws, kissing lessons, Ronnie tries the nervous game with Justin, and a resurrected squirrel. Oh and Ronnie catfished a...

Apr 14, 20251 hr 32 minSeason 2Ep. 28

Derry Girls (Season 1, Episode 1 and 3)

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! They turned on the closed captions and tuned into Northern Ireland for this week’s examination of Catholic school in the 90s. They discuss the Troubles and 5 troubled teens as well as The Cranberries, diary etiquette, jean jackets, new school year student assemblies, the English, peeing, dead nuns, dead pets, dogs peeing, Bingo nightmares, outgoing answering machine fame, and hot priests. Exit ticket: The Catholic Church has new directives on what makes...

Apr 07, 20251 hr 22 minSeason 2Ep. 27

Akeelah and the Bee

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Keke Palmer’s not in a raunchy comedy or judging the performance of the House of Mugler on Legendary. She’s an eleven year old going to the spelling bee. Along the way there’s also Ike and Tina Turner, DEI executive order violations, a fame whore principal Justin identifies with, mean girls, a Reading Counts quiz, MapQuest, CD-ROM gaming, babies thrown from airplanes, a lame birthday party, a drug dealer with a heart of gold, some Friday Night Lights bu...

Mar 31, 20251 hr 29 minSeason 2Ep. 26

Beverly Hills 90210 S2 Episode 20 and 21!

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Once again, West Beverly is ripe with real issues plaguing education. Just kidding. Instead it’s about a coach in Xanadu drag, shrunken nads, Brenda acting entitled as usual, stalking insurance scammers, roid rage at the Peach Pit, grunting, “Walking on Sunshine” by Katrina and the Waves, Donna falling down stairs in Palm Springs, Elon Musk, Mrs. Teasely having no control, so many characters giving PSAs, wild school board meetings, living room PTA meeti...

Mar 24, 20251 hr 34 minSeason 2Ep. 25

Recess!

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! The playground is not for the weak this week, especially when recess is more Lord of the Flies nightmare than break in the school day. Come outside with us. We have all the ice cream you can eat, rim jobs, comfort vaginas, missing shoes, Quasimodo, solitary confinement, beautiful boxes, Lisa Barlow, giant teeth, kings in recliners, Saving Ryan’s Privates, feral kindergarteners, more giant teeth, nacho cheese, construction workers, childhood trauma, and ...

Mar 17, 20251 hr 22 minSeason 2Ep. 24

Juno with Special Guest: Crystal Frommert!

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Juno - As far as glimpses into the world of education as light with this film we did learn that giving the pregnant girl side eye isn’t what one does and that cross country coaches should talk to their male athletes about wearing jockstraps. Other than that there were potatoes with lots of bacon yum, jugs full of Sunny D, pregnant women with full jugs, Elliot Page being a boss, Chemistry class bullies, peach Boone’s Farm, Elon Musk’s kid, guys in the la...

Mar 10, 20251 hr 50 minSeason 2Ep. 23

Extra Credit: Listener Thoughts!

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! There’s some listener mail: a sub who was given shitty lesson plans and a toxic hall pass, an argument with a relative over Christmas, sick leave controversies in Chicago Public Schools, and a question about the best and worst movie teachers. The hosts look through New York Magazine’s suggestions for the best Christmas gifts for teachers and yep there’s a damn coffee mug. Then finally there’s some surprise news about the spring trimester coming March 10...

Feb 10, 20251 hr 13 min

Friday Night Lights

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Billy Bob Thornton is yelling at students and worried about his coaching career in our pick this week. A far cry from Sling Blade and eating biscuits with mustard on them. This is a sports film, the hosts favorite genre, and it has it all: Boobies, child abuse, duct tape, an injured cheerleader, money spent on football stadiums that are used 7 times a season, 30 year olds hosting high school parties, passive aggressive townspeople, openly aggressive tow...

Feb 03, 20251 hr 46 minSeason 2Ep. 18

English Teacher (Season 1, Episode 1 and 2)

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! The allegations surrounding the star of the show conflicted the hosts as they truly love the show. And what’s to love about a gay teacher stirring things up at a high school? PTSD, insane workout routines, burnt french fries, sugar sprinkles, mean moms, the NEA, a butt grab, the horror book club of 2015, a stand mixer prize, bad principal advice, a rat chasing a snake, powderpuff ennui, drag queens, Pattle LaBelle reading “Twas the Night Before Christma...

Jan 27, 20251 hr 43 minSeason 2Ep. 17

Save the Last Dance

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Well this turd was picked again by Justin and pee-yew. What happens when Julia Stiles tries to dance hip-hop? Mom drives head on into a semi to avoid having to watch her, for one; and white privilege, Project Runway challenges in the back of a Buick, Truman Capote, cafeteria smoking lounges, “Ghetto Cowboy” requests, girl fights, balance beams in underserved schools, Olivia Pope, furniture store dance studios, white girl braid work, a Trading Spaces roo...

Jan 20, 20251 hr 37 minSeason 2Ep. 19

Head of the Class

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Mr. Moore seems to be the most accurate portrayal of an educator this far in the pod, but his students on the other hand. Sheesh. Get ready for Russian stereotypes, the pimping of a red-head, Quiet on the Set: the Dark Side of Children’s TV, the inability to navigate NYC, Coma by Robin Cook, Jamiroquai, bad quiz bowl questions, The Exorcist, too many glass windows for a classroom, two hot messes, a hidden camera, and sticky office supplies. Exit Ticket:...

Jan 13, 20251 hr 26 min

Little House on the Prairie

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Miss Beadle was a mess. If she wasn’t falling out of a carriage, she was releasing her students to die in a blizzard. Along the way, we encounter dumb Able, dumb Carrie, popcorn sex, Charles’s fine ass, that bitch Mrs. Olsen, that bitch Nelly, clay voodoo dolls, a lesson in spelling three letter words, students drunk on whiskey and high on opium, a calendar Christmas gift in need of a trashcan, a shed almost catching on fire, pissed off widows, and Linu...

Jan 06, 20251 hr 22 minSeason 2Ep. 17

The Holdovers

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! The Holdovers - What do you do when you’re tasked with watching the students stuck in an all boys school over Christmas? Well, besides staying drunk you also: enforce a daily regime, watch The Newlywed Game, break up fights, not investigate the smell of marijuana, spray yourself with Glade, give everyone Meditations as a present, visit the emergency room, lie to the medical staff, lie to a former peer about what you’re doing now-a-days, take a field tri...

Dec 16, 20241 hr 51 minSeason 2Ep. 16

Pepperann

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! What do you do with a stubborn girl who won’t listen to reason but in the end always learns a valuable lesson? Give her a cartoon on Saturday morning TV. She also gets to watch lesbians play rugby, to hypnotize the town with synth music, illustrate white privilege, protest sexism in television, and along the way get exposed to: furry culture, brittle bone syndrome, hot dogs, the impulse to extort fame, a headline about her, the town Navajos, and trans k...

Dec 09, 20241 hr 38 minSeason 2Ep. 15

Bring It On!

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Justin admits fault in choosing this stinker. For a film set in a high school with a school cheer team, there is a glaringly obvious omission of adults. A homeroom teacher takes roll and that’s it. Instead we have personal money spent on a misogynistic choreographer, a not-gay boyfriend, a gay cheerleader flirting with a boy so not gay, the prolific use of the f word by non-f’s, farting brothers, so much spitting, and the weirdest cheer routine ever. Ex...

Dec 02, 20241 hr 23 minSeason 2Ep. 14

Ordinary People

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Justin’s favorite movie so far and Ronnie is having flashbacks to teaching the novel. Is Beth the biggest villain yet? In addition to answering that question, there is a horrible coach, Speedos, a broken plate, photography nightmares, dates at McDonalds, barking, advice from Judd Hurst, a horrible trip to Houston, awkward hugs, and a garbage disposal eating French toast. Exit Ticket: Justin asks us to role-play being a psychiatrist. What advice can two ...

Nov 25, 20241 hr 33 minSeason 2Ep. 13

Grease 2

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Justin and Dalton’s worst nightmare of teens dance towards the camera opens this turd of a movie. Along the way there is sex education, bomb shelter sexual coercion, someone’s schlong flopping out, pox marked bikers, Polynesian appropriation, men in goggles, bowling ball choreography, couples spinning into oblivion, a school secretary who conducts the marching band and songs that go on for way too long. Exit Ticket: It’s field trip time to an interactiv...

Nov 18, 20241 hr 50 minSeason 2Ep. 12

Extra Credit: Listener Thoughts!

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Extra Credit: A Field Trip and Classic Back-to-School Ads Listener mail: A dick is drawn on a truck, a metal BB breaks the skin, someone doesn’t care for Ronnie’s political rants and just in time for Halloween there’s a ghost in a closet. Field trip: The hosts take part in a Traitors-esque competition and give a play-by-play of how one of them won. Classic back-to-school ads: Which one is the best? A classic McDonald’s ad from the 80s faces a local one ...

Oct 14, 20241 hr 18 min

Euphoria (S1 Ep. 1 & 2)

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: The data from 2023 is in on teen drug use and the numbers, although shocking, haven’t gone up. Can Justin guess the top five teens are into? How many drugs listed did Rue do in the first two episodes of Euphoria? Getting Schooled: Whao. Who knew that three of the last 4 of the Fall curriculum would be this depressing? The hosts fear for Gen Z and Ronnie is thankful he decided never to have kids. All this plus DominantDaddy, RIP Angus C...

Oct 07, 20241 hr 50 minSeason 2Ep. 10

Rebel Without A Cause

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: Justin points out that the word “teenager” came into heavy use in discussions of Rebel Without a Cause. They discuss a short history of the teen in film as the 1950s saw teens as a market for film while filmmakers sought to exploit teen rebellion in film. Good thing that stopped happening. Getting Schooled: In the span of one day from late Easter evening into Easter Monday, two teens would die and one would be critically wounded. Oh an...

Sep 30, 20241 hr 48 minSeason 2Ep. 9

Fame

Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: A real performing arts school in NYC is losing its drama partner and almost didn’t finish out the season. Can all the famous alumni save it? Not so much. Getting Schooled: Remember my name. (FAME!). Remember, remember, remember. Our hosts would care to forget parts of this 70s fantasia of NYC high school for the arts. Especially Coco’s demise, hot lunch dance breaks, middle of the school day middle of the street dance breaks, analyst l...

Sep 23, 20241 hr 52 minSeason 2Ep. 8
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