Welcome back to the Thick AF Podcast. We're here with part two of our Love is Blind special. This is again, this is Emily. Hey y'all, it's Sarah. We are happy to be here. Very happy to be talking about Love is Blind. Yeah, so we've got some extra stuff for the Love is Blind, the part two of the Love is Blind release. So like the fifth, sixth, wait, sixth, seventh and eighth episodes of Love is Blind season five, right? Four. Season four. So, but first,
but first, FMK. And this time it's going to be much less lame than last week. I apologize everybody. Oh my gosh. It wasn't lame because nobody cares about fruit. Yes, they do. Well, this one's not that exciting either, but Netflix, Hulu or Prime Video. What do you think? So I am actually going to struggle with this one a little bit because I am currently watching Daisy Jones in the six. What is that? It is a based on a book. My sister has read the
book and she told me about it last summer when she was at home at Christmas. I can't remember but she said it's really good and I think that it is supposed to be like loosely based on Fleetwood Mac. So it's a series. And which one is it on? It's on Prime. Okay. Yeah. And also The Summer I Turned Pretty is on Prime and I really liked both of those shows but I don't really, and The Marvelous Miss Maisel. Oh shoot. I haven't watched that
one yet but I struggle. I am marrying Netflix because that's just my life and Love is Blind is on there and Perfect Match and all these other Netflix original shows. So I got to marry Netflix. And I don't know, Letter Cane is on Hulu, but again, I haven't dug into
Prime Video that much. Same. I feel like Prime Video is getting better. Yes. I would agree especially and I feel like they have some really good shows but then I feel like sometimes I get on there and I'll watch the really good shows and then I'm done and I'll have nothing else to watch. Agree. But Hulu, well, I feel like Netflix is better at having new releases more often. I also think that Hulu is not super navigation friendly and other people
may disagree with me but I'm not the biggest fan. Also, I think that there is a ghost living inside of my Hulu because there are continue watching shows on there that I've never clicked on before. That would be your Brandon or your Melanie. Well, they're not shows that Brandon would watch so I don't think that it's them. Maybe it's somebody at Melanie's house. Melanie and I have our own accounts in Hulu. I know but what if somebody got in your account from
Melanie's house, like clicked on Sarah instead of... Nobody's there at Melanie's. How do you know? I know that nobody's at Melanie's house. What if she has a friend over there and they got on there and like, I mean, you don't know that she doesn't have friends come over. Oh my gosh. She's like, no, I know. I have a camera in there. I'm watching her. Are you sure she doesn't have like a dude coming over and hanging out? I'm really sure
of that. Okay. But she doesn't have friends that come over and hang out? No. I've seen her have snaps of friends over there. Yeah. Me. Doing the bop it. Not you. Other people. No you haven't. Yes I have. That is literally a lie. No it's not. I've seen it and I've sent her messages. Her sister maybe. No. I guarantee you if we called Melanie right now and I asked her if she's ever had any friends at her house outside of me and Kelly and Victoria,
the answer would be no. Okay. Well maybe she said that to you because she doesn't want you to be jealous. Cause I honestly, I feel like if... I feel like you would be like, no you wouldn't. But you might, you could potentially, you have the potential to be like Shelby, Micah's friend. Oh my gosh. In Love is Blind with Melanie if she were to get married. You're coming with daggers today. And I don't like it. Why? Because I said that
was the only dagger that I had. No. What was the other dagger? The pool. The pool? The drowning situation. That wasn't the pool, that was a lake. And listen, we're going to delete that unless you want me to keep it. Like I didn't know it was a secret. I thought it was a funny thing. I don't know. No, Melanie does not have any friends over. I think there is somebody else who throughout the years got our Hulu password and they are watching my Hulu and lying about it.
Okay. Well that's... So anyways, I'm fucking Hulu and killing Prime Video. Okay. Same for me. But okay. So I kind of... Netflix has been my old faithful for the longest time. I used to not have Hulu. I've always had Prime, but they weren't always that great. I did. I don't know. There's some things on there. I don't really get on it anymore unless somebody mentions, like you just mentioned that there's one on there that I might want to watch. I don't really get on there. So
I'm going to kill it. Even though I literally have like Amazon everything. So like Prime, everything in my house. Like I have like Amazon Prime. I have like all the Alexa devices. I have like the Ring security system. Like I have like literally everything that you could think of that's Amazon. I love you, Amazon. Thank you for all the things that I have. But I'm going to kill Prime Video. I'm going to... And I'm going to... What did I say? I'm marrying Netflix. Fucking Hulu. I do like Hulu.
I don't like the fact that like you said, it's not easy to navigate, but I see you smiling over there and texting. I don't know who you texting. You know who I'm texting. Are you texting Melanie because you think she's had other friends over? Yeah. Oh my God. She has. Like there was some girl over there that had like short hair or something. I was like, who's that? She told me it was, it was in a Snapchat. I don't know. It was a while back. I'm telling you, there's been other
people over there. Okay. It's probably her mom or her sister. It wasn't her mom. It was a young girl like our age. Anyways. So I said, maybe you have a boy there. She said, tell her I have several and we're eating cheese toast. Ew, cheese toast. Couldn't it... That's gross to eat with a boy. Yes it is. To eat cheese toast, you need to eat... Tell her to eat some strawberries or like whipped cream or I don't know, oysters. Okay. She said, just start making shit up. It's what I always do.
Oh my God. So with me, why... She was probably lying to you. No, she... There was literally a video. Maybe it was like a fake person in her house or the ghost. It was her friendly ghost, Casper. Okay. So are you going to listen to my FMK? So I'm prime. I'm killing. Okay. Netflix and Mary. You said we're doing the same thing. But Hulu. I know, but I'm telling you why. Hulu. I'm saying, you said it was not easy to navigate. She doesn't listen to me guys. This is why I have to talk so
much. So same in my whole family. My family does this too. We have prime. When you pull... I mean, Hulu, when you turn on the thing, you know, like on Netflix, you turn it, you put it on and it starts playing like the trailer or the beginning of it. Either the trailer or the beginning or whatever. And the sound's on. Well, on Hulu, it starts playing it, but there's no sound. You have to click on it. And then you have to click on it. But then it's like, I've already missed the first
two minutes because my thing, my cursor was, or my thing wasn't in the right spot. I have ours to not play the previews on Netflix. We turned it off. Oh, I like it. I love that. That's my favorite part because I go through and I'm like, watch that preview and I'm like, oh, this is boring for the first couple of seconds. And then I switched the next one. No, I'll watch the actual trailer. Oh, well, I mean, I do that too. If the thing that the preview thing that comes up looks good.
Oh, okay. So there's a thing on Netflix. I know we have like time up, but like there's a thing on Netflix that I saw yesterday. It said new and it's got Jennifer Lawrence. It has Bradley Cooper, but it said new on Netflix and it was filmed apparently in 2013. I feel like I know what you're talking about. I put it on here. Hang on. I'm going to tell you. Yeah. Tell me what it's called because I think I watched a preview for it the other day and I was like, I really want to get
into this, but I just don't know if I can. I'm pulling it up right here. Netflix should be the first one. Nope. That's not it. It's called American Hustle. Oh, it says new. I've seen that, but it says, well, it may be new to Netflix. Yeah. But I'm like, I was like, oh, this looks new. I've never heard of it. Yeah. You have seen it. Is it good? Uh huh. It looks really good. Okay. Got to turn this off. So, uh, so yeah, that's what I'm going to do. Anyway, we're going to get
into that, uh, the rest of this, uh, love is blind gossip talk. Yes. And opinions, at least we have somewhere to put our opinions. Yeah. You know, tell us what y'all think. Yeah. Tell us what you think. Love you. Thanks. Okay. What about Marshall and Jackie? I have so much to say. Okay. Marshall can cook by the way. Um, Marshall is amazing. A king. I love him so much. So do I. My favorite. A hundred thousand percent. Jacqueline is a drama queen. He is calm. He is patient.
He can cook. He's handsome. He's hot. He's nice. He's got those eyes. Oh my gosh. Yes. And you know, I thought when she was, you know, pitching her fit or whatever and talking about them, you know, not having sex, I thought it was going to be a different reason. Uh huh. And then when that came out, I was like, damn. So I don't know. She basically, what I got from that, the whole thing was that she wanted him to be, to like throw her around in the bedroom. But like hardcore is what
it sounds like. Yeah. And, and I think that the way that she's treating him, trying to get in a fight with him like that is, is her way to create that. Yeah. And preparation for makeup. Not reacting to it. He's not taking the bait. Because he is amazing. I love him. Can you please come marry me, Marshall? This is what I wrote down. Okay. I'll read part of it. Let me see. Um, I wrote Jacqueline acting like an asshole while she stressed out about meeting Marshall's family. And they were
so nice. His sister was so nice, but she was being an asshole before all that. Just, I mean, so dramatic. And her family isn't on board, you know, with her and Marshall. And I think that she's projecting all of her stress and anxiety from that onto him and that relationship and just being like, I can't do this, you know, whatever. She freaks out way too much. Real fast. She's like, Oh, one little thing. And she's like, I can't talk. Oh, I don't know what to do. Oh my God,
this is too stressful. I'm like, literally there's no stress on you right now. She's putting so much pressure on him. And I think she relies on him for her happiness. And she speaks over him all the time. When she told him you're ruining my vibe, when he tried to give her his coat at the party. Oh yeah. Okay. Okay. Hold on. You are an asshole. That part was weird. Okay. So that part, I didn't like him doing that because I felt like he was doing that because, okay, so Sarah kind of already
said this, that there were other people at the party and guess who shows up? Old Josh, who was the one that told Jacqueline or Jackie that she, that he was going to pay, he had his bags packed up. And if it wasn't her, he was going to leave. And then Marshall got pissed off and was like, what the hell? Who's talking to my girl? And then Josh was like, Hey, it was me or whatever. Well, I thought Josh was cool in the beginning. And I was like, Oh, Josh said this stuff. And you said
something. This is on our last one. We talked about this. You were like, no, Josh sucks. And then I saw this episode and I was like, Oh my gosh, Josh, what the hell? Marshall doesn't deserve to be treated the way that she's treating him. And I think that she, and maybe I wasn't like reading enough because I was just so mad at her and her behavior that maybe the coat thing was a little aggressive on Marshall's part. I thought it was weird. I think he was trying to cover her up
because of, because Josh was there. Yeah, maybe he was, but also she wasn't even really that like uncovered. No, she really wasn't. They were inside. He was like, you're going to catch a cold. And I was like, no, she's not. She's going to be fine. I think he was just trying to be sweet and it, you know, obviously wasn't received very well by her, but when he does anything, it's not received well aside from cooking her food. Yeah, I guess. Well, so back to when they
were meeting the parents, I said, I was, my thing is Marshall's sister. Yeah. I was like, Jacqueline trying to meet the parents is a lot. She is like ruining things. Yeah. And then what the hell's up with her family that makes her so crazy. Like, I don't understand. Like in the, in the first couple of episodes, she had that breakdown, that anxiety attack. Like, yeah. And she was like, Oh, my family, my family, whatever. And then she said her mom's not happy that she
did the experiment. And then she was in a whole mood when they came to visit. Like I don't, do we still haven't learned why her family makes her so crazy. We may not. What the hell's, I mean, like, I don't know. They haven't said anything about it. No. Like this. And she said, like in the first couple of episodes, when she had that panic panic attack on the honeymoon or whatever, she was like, I have to go back to my family. I have to go back to this. And like, what are
you going back to? Like, is she taking care of her family or something? Like, does she financially support them? I don't really understand. It's kind of weird. And I don't know. I just don't have the patience for it. You're grown. You're in your late twenties. Figure it out. Yeah. And go grab some therapy. Yeah. Marsha was way more relaxed and obviously more stable mentally than Jackie. And I don't think, I don't think they're going to work out because he fully acknowledges when she tries
to pull him into the toxicity and he's not letting it happen and props to him for that. And maybe they will work out because he is so good at like handling her. Cause that could be a thing that she needs. She needs somebody like him, but she's going to have to do some work. I think probably what she aches for is somebody who is stability for her, but she is pushing every button that he
has in order to get to that point. And that could be what pushes him away. Like there's only so much that somebody like Marshall, who's in that position of providing stability for somebody else can take before they're just like, screw it. Like I don't want to do this. Oh yeah, for sure. And when she was like, Oh, you need a boss up. She said he needed a boss up and that he's not a man and he's not
doing romance stuff. So he left, but then she packed her stuff. Yeah. And she was bitching at him for leaving and all. I mean, she was like, I'm not playing games with you. Sorry. I didn't mean that. Yeah. No, I mean, I get why he did that. Like take a beat, take some space. It doesn't, I mean, I understand what she's saying at the same time that, you know, she feels like he's running away, but I guarantee you that that conversation between the two of them that got him to the point of needing
to leave was circles of her same bullshit over and over and over. Right. And he's, I mean, when, how long do you sit around and do that? Because if you expect somebody to do that for, you know, two days with you, you're crazy. Yeah. And then she came back and basically gas lit him and was like, absolutely. I'm not playing this game with you. When she was packing her bag, she's like, I'm not playing games with you. Also Michael, who's playing the games. You are the one playing the game. She
is. Cause she was packing her shit up as soon as he got back and he gave her a heads up when he was coming back. And so she knew him. So she just turns on the drama and I don't like that. It's like she wants him to show that. Yeah. Yeah. And he wants to be like, Hey, no, I want you. I want you so bad. Blah, blah, blah. But he's, he's also telling her, I love you. And she doesn't say that back to him.
She is holding that out and not giving him what he's giving her. How can you bitch at somebody and you're not getting enough from them, whether it be sexually, emotionally, whatever, but you're also not giving. Yeah. You don't deserve it. If you're, if you're both, you know, giving, then it's one thing you're going to have a fuss about it, you know, whatever. But if you're going
to sit there and not give and just take, take, take, take, take, nah. Yeah. I mean, sometimes, so I think he said he was like, said something about how he does all these things and she doesn't
do anything that make him feel special. Um, and I, I see that and I can, I understand, I get that because like there are a lot of females and I'm not trying to, I'm not just trying to call out the girls, like call out us because I'm, I'm on team, team ladies, but like a lot of us, sometimes we think that the guy's supposed to do everything, but like, we don't return the favor to them. Does that make sense? Like we ask, we ask and we ask and we ask for all these things. And then like,
and it's vice versa, it could be for guys too. There's some guys that think that the girl should do everything. Yeah. But like, you can't do that. You have to, it has, nobody's going to stick around. I mean, some people might cause they crazy, but nobody's going to stick around for somebody who's not giving anything back. No, you gotta be in the middle for sure. Um, oh, but then hold on. So he said at one point he said he saw, he sees her as a project. She was like, well, why did you match
with me? He saw her as a project. Did you see that? And I don't think that's what he meant, even though that's what came out of his mouth. I think that he was angry in that moment. And that's what he used to say. But I think what he meant was he sees potential for her to be a great partner for him. Right. Yeah. I get that. Jackie's too much drama. I love Marshall. Um, she wants the wrong kind of attention. Absolutely. Um, I hate that people, when people just pick fights to make sure the other
person's still in it. Oh my God. It makes me crazy. I don't understand that. Okay. So I, in my notes, I have, Oh, go ahead. I have a OMG. Did Marshall just make Jackie put his coat on? Because Josh is there at Chelsea's birthday party. Was it Chelsea's birthday party? Yeah. And I was like, wow. He said, put this on, you're not about to catch a cold. And then I said, OMG, Jackie wants Josh. Cause like, I think she would in a heartbeat leave Marshall because Josh would give her that
toxic relationship that she is very clearly craving. But literally everybody at that party was like, why is he even here? Oh my God. It was so great. I was like, he was wasted face. Oh, absolutely. It was embarrassing for him. So embarrassing. Oh my God. He was talking crap about Marshall. Um, and you know what? Marshall was so PC and like so nice. He was just like, so as I put in my notes, I want to marry him. And then I put period and Paul. So, but like Marshall, Josh went up to Marshall
and was like, man, don't be mad at me. Remember that? And he was like, wasted. Cause come trust you girl, you girl. And I'm like, steal your girl. I don't know if that came out right. But like, it was crazy. It was wild. I've never seen anything like it. And Marshall turned around after he left. And he was like, what just happened? I mean, it was nuts. Can we talk about Brett and Tiffany next? I want to leave Mike on Paul for last. Yes. Let me get to the Bretts and Tiffany's in my notes.
I didn't take any notes, but I, um, I saw a couple of memes today, so it kept me fresh. I also watched this on Sunday, so it hasn't been too long, but they are so cute. She had me freaking out that she was going to drop that Dutch oven. I about died. And then she just laughed afterwards. I would have been like, Oh, I would have had like anxiety like, Oh, I would have been like, somebody else come get
this. She's very giggly. And I do like that like fun spirit about her, but Brett does. I wonder if her calling him bougie Brett is going to get on his nerves eventually, because I guess it's one of those things that I think that Jessica, if she were here, she would back me up about this. If you have like the means and to spend money on something, then absolutely it, you know, it doesn't necessarily
make you bougie, but I think if people continuously call you that it's going to be aggravating. Well, I just wonder if she brought that up because maybe she saw something that made it look seem to her that maybe he was spending his money on things that he shouldn't be spending his money on. He shouldn't be spending them on and not on other things. Like when she said something about like how she was like, I'm okay with you spending that money as long as you pay the bills. And I'm like,
I get that. Like as long as you can take care of yourself, but there's some people that will go out and buy these things. Like he said, he, you know, bought expensive luggage and that's what he called it. He puts his luggage on the bed. Probably. Yeah, probably so. I mean, yeah, probably. But she, at first, before they started talking about all that, she was like, Brett said he was a simple person and she was like, um, no, you aren't. Which I think is fair. Yeah. But like, it's funny that
he thought he was a simple person, but cause, and I don't know, I don't, I don't really know. I feel like we haven't dug into him much. No, I don't feel like I know a whole lot about either one of them. Same. Just I think because there isn't drama surrounding the relationship, they, it's hard for the cameras to kind of dig in. I mean, they've had a few, you know, I wouldn't even call that last conversation a tough conversation. I mean, they, you know, pretty much agreed to, you know, not
necessarily, you know, split bills. They don't want to pay each other for a mortgage, you know, via Venmo and you know, that's for real. Like that's legit conversations you have to have. Absolutely. Like who's going to pay for this? I mean, we still don't know much about him. Other than that, he likes, you know, his Jordans. That's about it. Oh, I didn't even know that. Yeah. Do you not remember the shoe boxes? He's got the plastic shoe containers that have the front facing
flaps that open up and you can get, he can get his J's out of there. Oh, nice. Yeah. I like that. She was like, where am I? She's going to go. And he's like, we can get you boxes. Yes. Thank you. Buy me some boxes and some, some $1,200 suitcases. Yeah. I don't really have a lot of notes about Brett and Tiffany. I think that they're probably going to get married. Yeah. When they did that little like picnic situation or whatever, they also, I don't remember exactly
what was said, but they seem to be on the same page about things. And so I feel confident in them. Yeah. So, but also, I'm sorry, one last thing, the previews that it shows for like the altar makes it look like Tiffany is hyperventilating and going to say no. So I'm very curious to see how that plays out. See, I need to go back and watch those. Okay. So let's, do you have anything else about Brett and Jackie? Right now? I don't really have anything. I didn't write anything down. This
is all just from, yeah, mine was really just like his expense. Call it, she called him, boozy Brett. Okay. So Paul and Micah, Paul got one of his couches off the side of the road and he has a lot of pocket knives. Like, did you see how many pocket knives he, I mean, like, it's just like weird for them to be sitting out on every table. He's a dude. That's, I have pocket knives too, but I don't have them like chilling everywhere. It was interesting. And it looks like he lives
in a frat house or like a dorm. I don't know how old he is. It looks like he moved into like his second apartment after college. And like, why would you also, who has two sofas? Like where's your chairs? Where are the chairs? Well, see, that's why I think he lives in a frat house. Like that, like, and I get it. So a lot of times there are men who in our world are brought up that women are the ones that, you know, do everything. And like, they're the ones that
make the home. And, you know, his house wasn't that dirty or anything, I don't think, but like, he obviously took the advice of our society and said, I'm not going to be the one that focuses on the house. And he just looks like he lives like, like a frat boy. And it's like, maybe his mom probably bought him his, you know, cups and bowls and stuff. I'm sure. I mean, because she probably came over and was like, I'll clean your bathtub before your new girlfriend
comes over because you don't know how to do it. I mean, I don't know. It's one of those things where like, I even feel like I can say that, like, I drank out of like plastic cups, you know, a lot for a while. And I just started like collecting like nice glassware, but I also didn't really have cupboard space before. And I like didn't unpack all my kitchen stuff. So like, I had some room to collect new stuff and I'm 35. So like, I'm still getting there. Like I
just bought pasta bowls for myself for the first time this year. So like, what is the difference between a regular bowl and a pasta bowl? I don't know, like a big fat, not, not super deep bowl. Like, Oh, like, oh, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Like a restaurant pasta bowl. Okay, cool. Yeah. Yeah. See, I don't have those. Yeah. My mom though. So, but I don't have cereal bowls either. Oh, I don't eat cereal. Like regular bowls.
Like what's the difference? Like the bowls that we had out tonight were cereal bowls for me. Oh, I was like, that's a cereal bowl. I was like, I don't know. It's just a bowl to me. Like a bowl. I don't call it. I don't eat cereal either, but I eat stuff out of bowls. I have salad bowls that like aren't super wide and, but they're also not that deep. So what's the difference between a salad bowl and a cereal bowl? A cereal bowl comes up much higher. It's deep. So it can hold the milk.
So there's a, okay. I, yeah, no, I just, a bowl is a bowl to me. I don't know. My mom started giving me, which I have been very, very fortunate that my mom did this. And I think that when I was younger, I'll probably didn't like appreciate it as much, but she, like for Christmas or like my birthday or something, she'll buy me like, like my China that I have, I've gotten that and she's got more at her house. So like when I get a bigger place and she has the same China too, because we both
liked it. And so when I get a bigger place, she'll either pass me hers and the extra that she bought me so that I have more. Cause right now I think I only have like eight place settings because I don't have a big house and I don't, right. And so that's been really nice. She bought me silverware, like white, like crystal glasses, like random stuff like that, that she's done. And it's, it's been very helpful to, you know, get things going. And a lot of times people don't have that.
Yeah. And a lot of times parents don't do that for, cause people don't care about it, stuff like that. My mom does, she's kind of old school. She loves that. Like she likes to give me things for the kitchen. I'm pretty sure if we went through my kitchen, like legit, like I'm pretty sure like most everything she bought for me or like handed down to me. I mean, except for maybe like the spatulas that I bought at the dollar store. You know, it's, it's nice. It's nice to have that
stuff. And I get it. But like his house looks like, honestly, he could have bought a couch by now. Right. Like if, if, I don't know, maybe he's got a lot of money saved up. And if he doesn't, then that's sad. I don't know. Some people don't spend their money on stuff like that. Yeah. I have dated boys where I went to their house and I was like, you want to know what a red flag for me is? Like red flag number one, what dirty toilet, Navy blue sheets. Why Navy blue sheets? They just
reek of like dirty college boys. Yeah. But like, I'm pretty sure like every dude I've known has had Navy blue sheets. I don't like Navy blue. Like I would never like, why would you want that dark of colored sheets? I don't know. I don't want them. And I don't ever want to sleep on them. So, and also if you're in college and you buy Navy blue sheets, you should not do that because stains on there show up really well. So you should get white sheets. 100%
or off white sheets. Yeah, absolutely. Just in case you got a little color in that stain. I mean, I don't know. You might be gay. I don't know. I'm gonna take that out. Yeah. Don't get Navy blue sheets guys. So, okay. So Paul and Micah, let me see what else we got. I thought Micah's parents were so cute. Yeah. Also Paul's mom is literally Micah's in like a younger version. Absolutely. Or older version. Yeah. And it's so funny because like,
how did Paul know? Like that they were gonna, I mean, it's like he's literally marrying his mom. Absolutely. Yeah. So we're, okay. So hold on. They started talking about their places where they're gonna live. And she said something about Arizona. Yeah. I'm like, does she from, is she from there and just move there? And she's like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Is she from there and just moved there for the show? Like you were trying to get me to do in Charlotte or like she's, I mean, like why does she have a place in Arizona? I don't know. I couldn't catch that because at one point I thought, I thought it was her that she had somebody that lived in Mobile, but I thought it was her too. Oh, was it? But I don't know. But then she said when she talked to, I can't remember who it was. I don't know.
That was her. His mom said that to her. His mom was like, I knew everything about you. We did a Google because I'm a paralegal or whatever. And something in Mobile. I think it was like an aunt or somebody in Mobile. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I did not get the vibe that her parents were from the South. Oh, no. No, not at all. Definitely not. Yeah. And her dad. So at one point her dad's, his name's Paul too. Yes it is. Cause at first he was, he said, Oh, I like him. Of course. Cause
he's Paul. And I was like, what is he talking about? And then later they were like, Paul. And I was like, Oh, it's the Paul's name. But her mom said, she said her biggest fear is that Micah is going to get her heart broken. And her dad was like, Oh, I never really thought of that, but I guess that's a big deal too. Okay. Well, I think it's easy to get caught up in the moment of that. Like you're a number one on TV, which is something that they're probably not used to.
A number one. Sorry. On TV. And then they're being asked these interview questions after they just got done meeting this man that their daughter is going to marry. And the immediate, like the whole premise of that meeting was just to get to know him and kind of approve or not approve of him. You know what I mean? So then to be asked the question, you know, what's your biggest fear of what's going to happen? That probably hasn't been thought through yet. But like that to me would be
the number one fear. What other fear would you have at this point? I mean, he did her dad did say he could be a serial killer. Cause then that's, I think that she said that too. Michael was like, are you a serial killer with the knives or something? Oh my gosh. Well, so, okay. So back to the Arizona thing. So she tried to get him, she was trying to get him to move to Arizona or like split time. And then later on she was like, I'm going to move in with him. Right. I did think
that was strange. So there was obviously a conversation that happened in between. Yeah. Either off camera or it got edited out or whatever that we were not privy to because that definitely threw me for a loop-de-loop. And I'm so I'm really proud of her for compromising with that, even though she hated his place. Like she was like, Oh, I don't think so. And she was like, you know what? I'm going to move here. Cause I work remote. Well, I do wonder if maybe that was part of their
compromise. Obviously we weren't part of that conversation, but maybe he didn't agree to split time with her if they moved into his house instead of hers. Yeah. Oh yeah. That's good idea. That would be a good thought. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. Um, so Micah's friends, I look green dress, Shelby is that her name? Shelby. Yeah. What in the world? She has some nerve coming in hot like that.
And also I think that she just, she must have a thousand insecurities because she's jealous too, probably a hundred percent because she was very straight up and like almost boastful that she has ended some of Micah's relationships before. If any of my friends ever did that to me, I would be pissed. You come to me, we have a one-on-one conversation and we talk about it, but to allow your friends to end a relationship, you are also insecure and not able to make decisions on your
own. Well, and obviously you could tell that she, whenever Shelby, her friend was like saying all this stuff and then Paul, I thought he handled it well. He was like, well, I don't really care what you think kind of thing. And Shelby was like, excuse me, you don't care. He didn't say anything mean at all. He didn't. But also Micah never should have let her go in on him. No. And that's what I'm saying. It's like she, when she was like kind of going, exactly. That he was wrong after he said,
I don't care what you think. I care about what you think. You're my partner. And that is how it should be. Right. Well, and I get it. Like I think that he probably would have cared more what that other girl thought if she hadn't acted like that. I mean, wouldn't you like at this point, I'm like, you know what? You are a little bit ridiculous and I don't really give a hell damn whatever you
absolutely you think because you suck. If she had come in and nicely explained her concerns or whatever, then I think that he would have been able to have a very intellectual conversation with her that was level headed and calm. Instead, she just came in like a damn bulldozer acting like she runs Micah's life and it seems like Micah lets her. Oh yeah, it does. And so I wrote on here, my last comment about them was, is Shelby a lesbian or something and is jealous of Paul? Like maybe
Shelby has feelings for Micah. And I mean, like this is just a theory. Yeah. And is jealous of him or like she's maybe she's afraid of losing her friend. Like, why doesn't she like Paul? Paul has not done anything to her. Paul has literally not said, I mean, I don't know what conversations were off camera or what, but like he's not even that weird. Like he's super nice. Well, and I, this is clearly where Micah gets her mean girl behavior. Oh yeah. Due to her friendships and the other girl
wasn't that bad at all. Like she seemed to be supportive, you know, whatever. And she didn't really, you know, she didn't say much. No, the only thing. Yeah. The only, she did say one thing. Basically about like, if you can date Micah, then that's something that other folks haven't really been able to do almost as if she was like a difficult person. Yeah. Which I would be upset
if my friend said that about like during a first meeting anyways. I mean, you would tell Brandon that if he texted you tomorrow was like Sarah's being an asshole and you'd be like, well, sometimes she's like that, you know, whatever. But like on a first meeting. But Brandon wouldn't do that. No, he wouldn't. But you know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah. The first time that you met him, you were not mean to him. Right. No, I was super nice to him because I wanted him to feel
comfortable. I didn't want him to like, like, obviously if I was jealous of you having a boyfriend, then I would have been mean. That's why I think she's jealous. It's just bizarre that that's how you decide to show up, you know, and in first impression for, you know, somebody who's supposed to be your best friend that you know is going on the show and is quite obviously
engaged to this human. I mean, unless Paul did something off camera that we didn't see that was really terrible, because I can see myself if some guy showed up and was talking shit to you and saying stuff, I can probably see myself. It would take a lot. It would take a lot for me to say something mean to him. So like Brandon, if he did that, if you showed up, I don't think that I don't think that Paul would do that. And I mean, the internet is dragging this girl. Yeah. Like
it's wild and she deserves every bit of it. And not to say that producers wouldn't let that happen. And if Paul did something obnoxious, then we would all know. Right. I mean, they've she's essentially a villain at this point, but nobody gives a shit about her because she may show up and sit in the audience at the wedding. But like, she's not going to be a part of like everyday, you know, scenes that they're shooting. Right. So surely he didn't say anything that was out of grievous. I don't
know. Poor Paul. He's the best. Well, and then he sat there while I think, and here's the other thing that popped out at me. Shelby started crying after that saying, you know, he's not the one for you, whatever. No girl, you're crying because you know, you just got embarrassed on national television for being a bitch. Or she should be crying. That's why you're crying. Or she should be. Yeah. I have a note that says, Zach has the best advice. It's next to my Paul is the best thing. Zach has
the best advice. I can't remember what they were talking about. But if we go back talking about Chelsea's birthday party, like just all the little things that happened because we had Josh show up. Okay. And then I think the producers are assholes because they brought him because Marshall and Jackie were fighting. Well, they also brought Amber. Yes. Amber showed up. And then they brought
Michael. And there was zero conversation there. Yeah. And you know, by the end of that party, she found out who Paul was and I guarantee you, if she tried to approach him, I bet you he said no. So Amber was Paul's second choice. And of course, and Micah immediately when she shows up, Micah is like immediately over on him, hanging on him, even though she had been talking to Kwame the whole time. Yes, she had again. Yeah. And then Kwame and Micah were talking and Kwame has been talking to
him. And Kwame has his laugh is the worst. I think you texted me about it too. Didn't you? You were like, Oh my God. Was it Josh's laugh? Oh, I was talking about, I thought it was, we were talking about Kwame's laugh. Kwame was like, yeah, you respond and said, have you listened to Kwame's? It was like, Josh was just like taking over that whole party. I mean, it was just crazy. But I mean, I'm trying to think of what else happened that popped out at me at that party.
I think, well, Irena wasn't there. So we got to talk about Kick Rocks Irena for a second, because she also had a meeting with Micah because there was romantic feelings or something. She told Irena before they left the honeymoons or whatever. She told, was it Micah? She told Micah that she had feelings for Paul, right? Yeah, which was the craziest thing because I don't even remember watching them in the pods, like have a conversation at all. No, she didn't. She
only had feelings for him after she saw him. Right. Which is just crazy. And like, she didn't even own anything when Micah was trying to have that conversation with you. She was just like, Irena was like, I appreciate you. And I'm so glad that we're friends. It's like, bitch, you've been friends with a girl for two weeks. She ain't your real friend. No. And you're crazy trying to go after her man when she is the only one who rode for you in that pod house. Oh yeah. The only one.
And so now Irena has come out and said that she has privately apologized to the people that she has wronged. No girl, that's because you have a business and your business is probably being affected by your terrible ass behavior on this show. Mean girl shit. I'm interested to see who they bring that didn't get matched up onto the reunion. Is it called a reunion? They've got to bring Irena. I mean, Irena is going to be on there for sure because obviously. Yeah. And then do you
think Josh is going to be there? I think Josh is going to be on there. And the only reason why I say that is because the previews for the next handful of episodes, he's meeting with Jackie again. So like he's popping up again. Well, so, okay. So Josh went over and shoot all the girls away from Jackie and was like, let me have a conversation with you. And he started saying how, how he felt about her or whatever. Well, he was fumble bumbling through
his slurry words. He couldn't even tell what he was saying. But Jackie was like, oh, I had no idea he felt that way. And I'm like, he was the one that told you he was packing his bags because if it wasn't you, like she, I feel like she is playing both sides of the fence. Yeah. She's in jaw. Like, listen, Jackie, if you get with Josh, good luck to you, honey. You're going to be broken up very soon because he sucks. Well that or else you're going to be in a lifelong toxic ass
relationship. Right. Marshall, I'll take you. You can move to Seattle. Hell yeah. He can move to Alabama if he wants to Birmingham, but I work remote so I can work anywhere. Exactly. It's the only thing is the healthcare. I hope he has a good health insurance because my health insurance would technically only be able to be in Alabama. Some hole anyways, I think you should slide into his DMS. I mean, I'm pretty sure he has lots of girls sliding into it. I'm pretty sure he does too, but
who's to say that you're not the one he picks. Why are you looking at me like that? She did her eyebrows. She's like, she, she always makes these faces at me and nobody can see them except for me because why not shoot your shot girl. I mean, what if he's married though? We don't know if he's married to Jackie. You have three weeks to slide in the DMS. We need to find, we need to wait for like the after the altar after the altar. Yeah. Yeah. And all that stuff. So, okay. Well, thank
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